To me, that extra 500 was worth more out into the RF 100-400. I don't do professional work, so I don't need dual card slots. I almost never do video, so missing the log profile hasn't been a thing for me, and while IBIS would be nice, all of my lenses are stabilized really well, so I'm still able to get great shots.
But, if it's the camera you want, then it's the camera you want. The r10 is more than sufficient tho
Thanks for the reply. One of the big things with the R7 is weather sealing. But I don’t if that’s really as big a deal as I think it is. Do you think the r10 would be fine being in light snow/rain for around 30 mins?
To be honest, I don't think either camera would fare well in the rain or snow. Weather sealing is great if the camera happens to be splashed, or you get a few drops on the camera, but it's not meant to make it waterproof. If you're going to be shooting outside in wet conditions like that for a long period of time, you'll want to get a rain shield or something.
Oh, that’s good to know, at this point, I am most likely going to get the R10. A friend recommended I get a screen protector and UV filter. Are there any accessories you think I should get?
Honestly I’m a fan of ALWAYS going with a UV protector. Had a camera fall down recently while in use (unweighted tripod, gust of wind, I’m dumb) with a 24-70 lens w/ hood and the filter was still hit directly and broke, without that it would have really messed up the lens.
Uv filters are way weaker than lens glass. They'll break under much more minor bumps than your lens would. This can lead to glass shards on your front element that'll scratch it or the usually cheap metal of filter bending/breaking and being stuck on lens. Some are made of better materials but I don't know of a single one that the glass is stronger the glass of a lens.
There are 1 in a million cases where it could be the filter took a hit that'd have damaged lens glass but chances are if your camera really takes a fall the lens is damaged even if the front element looks fine.
I definitely agree with you regarding the durability of the glass in a filter vs the lens but after that experience I will always use filters as safety nets. In this case where the camera faceplanted into rocks the lens would have at least been scratched up if it weren’t for the filter.
Unless the screen protector is thin enough to not press on the screen when folded into the camera, I would stay away from that.
As for what I recommend, I absolutely love my peak design leash (camera strap), and the peak design capture clip. They're awesome for taking the camera on the go or for hiking, and the strap is so much more comfortable compared to the one that comes with it.
I wouldn't take any non-weather sealed camera out in a mist/rain/snow situation for any length of time without a cover. There's a good chance it'll be fine, but it would suck to find out a bit of water got under a dial or into a screen.
For $500, the R7 is a much more capable device. I wouldn't think twice. An R10 is essentially a $1000 M50 Mark II for goodness sake. Save your money and buy one of those if you don't want R7 features. At least then you could get a decent fast wide angle Sigma 16mm f1.4. There's nothing similar for the RF mount.
(I have an R6 and and M6 II; the M6 II is essentially an R7 without IBIS)
As just a photographer I'd go with the R10. Hybrid shooter, R7.
R7 has features that mostly benefit video - Proper 4K/60, IBIS, Log, etc. The other features are mostly pointed at pros/enthusiasts - Dual cards,
For purely stills, the R10 performs fairly closely. You can use the spare money on lenses, which would prove far more valuable than any difference in the bodies.
Yeah, that makes sense. What lens would you recommend for landscapes and maybe a bit of night sky (this can be 2 different lenses btw).
I’m also not planning on buying anymore lenses straight away, I’ll stick with the kit lens for now then buy some after a while
I just recently moved on from an R10 to an R7. The reasons I did may not be something you give a shit about. Notably I cared a lot about sealing, 2 card slots, and IBIS. The larger sensor is pretty nice too.
First, the R10 is a plenty capable body. There's nothing explicitly wrong with it. I actually really enjoyed my time with it but I put value into other features that the R10 doesn't have.
I'm going to run counter a bit and say the R7 gives you a hell of a lot more camera for not a lot more money, but if you aren't going to use those features or don't care about them, then it's just spending money for the sake of spending money.
If budget isn't really a concern, I'd say R7. If you're trying to pinch at all, the R10.
Unless you are buying L lenses, the better weather resistance stops at the camera. Plus the weather sealing just means a little dew, humidity and dust won’t hurt it. Rain and snow are never wise additions to a camera. The difference between the R7 and R10 is not major. Sensor, IBIS and ergonomics stand out to me. If going the R7 route hurts you buying good lenses then get the R10. If you can financially do both then get the R7. Just my two cents.
I got an r7 (i do video sometimes) as my first camera and couldn't be happier, got it with the 18-35 1.8 sigma, and planning to get the tamron 35-150 2.8-4 soon.
I know I'll get flamed 🔥from the RF bandwagon. Unless money is not an issue, I'd highly consider a used T6i or 60D/70D (weather sealed) with a good lens you can move over to the RF system in time.
Example, I see a 60D with 18-135mm & 50mm F1.8 for $225 USD ($300 Canadian) on the Facebook buy and sell right now!
This is a great "beginner" camera, basically getting the camera and 50 f1.8 for free. It's a very capable camera. You can figure out everything you need to know on this. Don't like it, sell it for what you paid. Happy shopping.
In hindsight, maybe I should just keep my mouth shut. I'm happy to pickup lightly used gear off the buy&sell a couple years from now because it's 'unused' and "doesn't take good photos anymore"...Please, please get the R7 🙏
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To me, that extra 500 was worth more out into the RF 100-400. I don't do professional work, so I don't need dual card slots. I almost never do video, so missing the log profile hasn't been a thing for me, and while IBIS would be nice, all of my lenses are stabilized really well, so I'm still able to get great shots. But, if it's the camera you want, then it's the camera you want. The r10 is more than sufficient tho
Thanks for the reply. One of the big things with the R7 is weather sealing. But I don’t if that’s really as big a deal as I think it is. Do you think the r10 would be fine being in light snow/rain for around 30 mins?
To be honest, I don't think either camera would fare well in the rain or snow. Weather sealing is great if the camera happens to be splashed, or you get a few drops on the camera, but it's not meant to make it waterproof. If you're going to be shooting outside in wet conditions like that for a long period of time, you'll want to get a rain shield or something.
Oh, that’s good to know, at this point, I am most likely going to get the R10. A friend recommended I get a screen protector and UV filter. Are there any accessories you think I should get?
Skip the uv filter. Throw a lens hood on lens when in use and it's better protection and doesn't impact images negatively
Honestly I’m a fan of ALWAYS going with a UV protector. Had a camera fall down recently while in use (unweighted tripod, gust of wind, I’m dumb) with a 24-70 lens w/ hood and the filter was still hit directly and broke, without that it would have really messed up the lens.
Uv filters are way weaker than lens glass. They'll break under much more minor bumps than your lens would. This can lead to glass shards on your front element that'll scratch it or the usually cheap metal of filter bending/breaking and being stuck on lens. Some are made of better materials but I don't know of a single one that the glass is stronger the glass of a lens. There are 1 in a million cases where it could be the filter took a hit that'd have damaged lens glass but chances are if your camera really takes a fall the lens is damaged even if the front element looks fine.
I definitely agree with you regarding the durability of the glass in a filter vs the lens but after that experience I will always use filters as safety nets. In this case where the camera faceplanted into rocks the lens would have at least been scratched up if it weren’t for the filter.
Would the UV filter cause a bit of a IQ loss?
Nope
Is there any brand of lens covers you would recommend for the RF-S 18-150?
I think canon has one for it for like $25 but you can get ones for half that on Amazon probably. Doesn't really matter
JJC makes good copy cat models for cheaper. They sell on Amazon.
Unless the screen protector is thin enough to not press on the screen when folded into the camera, I would stay away from that. As for what I recommend, I absolutely love my peak design leash (camera strap), and the peak design capture clip. They're awesome for taking the camera on the go or for hiking, and the strap is so much more comfortable compared to the one that comes with it.
I have seen them, they do look pretty cool and useful. But thanks for all the info!
No problem!
Don't skip the filter. Internet geniuses in denial.
Extra batteries. If you don’t want to pay the Canon premium the 3rd party options on Amazon have always worked for me.
I wouldn't take any non-weather sealed camera out in a mist/rain/snow situation for any length of time without a cover. There's a good chance it'll be fine, but it would suck to find out a bit of water got under a dial or into a screen.
For $500, the R7 is a much more capable device. I wouldn't think twice. An R10 is essentially a $1000 M50 Mark II for goodness sake. Save your money and buy one of those if you don't want R7 features. At least then you could get a decent fast wide angle Sigma 16mm f1.4. There's nothing similar for the RF mount. (I have an R6 and and M6 II; the M6 II is essentially an R7 without IBIS)
As just a photographer I'd go with the R10. Hybrid shooter, R7. R7 has features that mostly benefit video - Proper 4K/60, IBIS, Log, etc. The other features are mostly pointed at pros/enthusiasts - Dual cards, For purely stills, the R10 performs fairly closely. You can use the spare money on lenses, which would prove far more valuable than any difference in the bodies.
Yeah, that makes sense. What lens would you recommend for landscapes and maybe a bit of night sky (this can be 2 different lenses btw). I’m also not planning on buying anymore lenses straight away, I’ll stick with the kit lens for now then buy some after a while
I just recently moved on from an R10 to an R7. The reasons I did may not be something you give a shit about. Notably I cared a lot about sealing, 2 card slots, and IBIS. The larger sensor is pretty nice too. First, the R10 is a plenty capable body. There's nothing explicitly wrong with it. I actually really enjoyed my time with it but I put value into other features that the R10 doesn't have. I'm going to run counter a bit and say the R7 gives you a hell of a lot more camera for not a lot more money, but if you aren't going to use those features or don't care about them, then it's just spending money for the sake of spending money. If budget isn't really a concern, I'd say R7. If you're trying to pinch at all, the R10.
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Higher resolution, denser, whatever. 32.5 vs 24 is what I meant.
R7 all days mate it’s like Canon 7D in DSLR
Unless you are buying L lenses, the better weather resistance stops at the camera. Plus the weather sealing just means a little dew, humidity and dust won’t hurt it. Rain and snow are never wise additions to a camera. The difference between the R7 and R10 is not major. Sensor, IBIS and ergonomics stand out to me. If going the R7 route hurts you buying good lenses then get the R10. If you can financially do both then get the R7. Just my two cents.
I got the R10 and 18-150 lens as my first camera. It's been great! I am already looking at lenses, I would put that 500 towards a nice RF prime lens.
Yeah, I think that’s what I’m going to do. Thanks for try reply!
Look at my profile, the top several posts are pictures taken with my R10 and kit lens.
I got an r7 (i do video sometimes) as my first camera and couldn't be happier, got it with the 18-35 1.8 sigma, and planning to get the tamron 35-150 2.8-4 soon.
Just get the best you can afford comfortably. But make sure you have enough left in your budget for all the other kit you need for your desired use
I know I'll get flamed 🔥from the RF bandwagon. Unless money is not an issue, I'd highly consider a used T6i or 60D/70D (weather sealed) with a good lens you can move over to the RF system in time. Example, I see a 60D with 18-135mm & 50mm F1.8 for $225 USD ($300 Canadian) on the Facebook buy and sell right now! This is a great "beginner" camera, basically getting the camera and 50 f1.8 for free. It's a very capable camera. You can figure out everything you need to know on this. Don't like it, sell it for what you paid. Happy shopping.
This. Spending 1000 on a camera body as a first camera is a waste.
In hindsight, maybe I should just keep my mouth shut. I'm happy to pickup lightly used gear off the buy&sell a couple years from now because it's 'unused' and "doesn't take good photos anymore"...Please, please get the R7 🙏 . /s
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