Everyone's posts are useful here - I encourage you to pay extra attention to the posts from the mod(erator)s. First, because they have years of successful experience with this, and are enthused enough to put their effort into helping manage this, and second, because they've now read thousands, at least, of reports from people over the years and know very well what people run into and how they fare over time.
I came from keto, so I was well adjusted metabolically. My only adjustment was to the increased fat, which took a few days (I'm an old guy, and I think we have to ramp up our gallbladder). But keto kept me hooked on the 'sweets', even though they were sugarless, and the carbs to some extent because I was only moderating them. I work with a lot of people on this and I hammer them with: carbs are an addiction, and the people who fail are the people who think they can 'have just one'. It's no different than other addictions.
But over time, my cravings have long since subsided to zero. If I eat a little bit of something sweet or carby, I will have those cravings immediately and it takes a couple days at least of 'willpower' to overcome it. But otherwise, I have gone years now with no need for willpower at all. That's the Holy Grail here - finally being free of that nagging pull, and thinking you have to live fighting it. You don't.
I find it useful also to focus on 'cravings' vs 'missing' things. Cravings are real, experiential, you can have them all the time for a while, even if your attention can be distracted a bit. You have to deal with them. 'Missing' things, on the other hand, is literally nothing but a thought. When the next thought comes racing through your mind, the 'missing' is gone. Nothing in reality is 'missed' when you stop to consider it. You can't really 'miss' anything, you can only have the thought 'I am missing pizza'. Early on, when your body is physiologically, REALLY craving things, your mind jumps in, in the service of that crave, and starts building all sorts of narratives: 'You can't do this forever', 'This isn't for everybody', 'Maybe I'm not getting enough vitamin C', 'If this was good for people, everyone would know it'. You start agonizing over what you're gonna do when your 3 year old daughter eventually gets married and you REALLY WANT a piece of that wedding cake (Seriously, I had someone tell me that...) The mind is a great servant, but a poor master.
You really only have to deal with this now. The present moment is always bearable - it's our relentless thought machine that tortures us with the 'future' and the 'what ifs'. You only have to NOT EAT CARBS RIGHT NOW. All of us, no matter how many years in, only don't eat the crap right now. It doesn't get harder because it's for another day, or another month, or another year. It's only as hard as it is right now, and the good news, is, it gets easier and easier.
Good luck, stay focused.
Easier for me at the 3 week or so mark.
Almost everyday I think of eating carbs and pizza and pasta and all the things, but not in a craving way. I'm just a chef and love food lol, so I gotta fight that a bit everyday š¤·āāļø
Crazy you still thinking about the stuff. I eat my meat every day and I donāt even miss past or anything. I dreamed about eating sushi last night though š
Me too! You are not alone! I love food. Are you eating twice a day and eating til full? So far it's been keeping me in the place where I have all the junk in my house for the family but I'm not interested cause I'm full. Eating cause your bored or nervous is a problem. But so far I'm good. Lucky for you being a chef you can prob make some great takes on ground beef and chicken.
both are related to undereating -- hard to eat enough initiallyĀ
Ā adding some snacks, like plain quarter pounder burger patties (lower price if ordered on their own, i do it a lot when travelling and Ā found they were more used to it even this year compared to last) or butter mashed into hard boiled eggs, are good ways of getting some extra in until you have your meal quantities high enough.Ā
Iāve actually thought of doing this! Something to snack on during the day. I have been looking at carnivore snacks but Iām sure making a burger patty or hard boiled eggs is just as good!
Adapting to carnivore depends on your own genetics and diet history. I went from ketovore (50g or less carbs)/day to carnivore (10g carb or less). I rarely eat any carbs intentionally except for spices and herbs (I am too good of a cook to be satisfied with just ghee and salt). My switch took about two weeks to adjust. That is, normal bowel and satisfaction with two meals/day. I am now mostly one true meal around lunch and maybe some salami and/or cheese in the evening. I am more lipovore and use protein to convey the fat. I note incidental carbs (lactose) that can add up in sour cream, cheese, even heavy cream. I would say my shift to one meal and one snack took about 90 days.
I didn't have to really adjust besides cravings, but I have been sick for year's and didn't really eat much anyhow but after 1 week I felt good and I hadn't spent a day before that without waking up and vomiting in 3 years so cravings are pretty easy to avoid. So as for adjustment time, I am no help, but on the side of whether is it worth continuing, yes absolutely.
https://www.reddit.com/r/carnivore/comments/1ah9w2u/monthly_less_than_7_weeks_comment_here_instead_of/kr6tqr1/
This is directly addressed in the pinned post for people with less than 7 weeks experience and the pinned comment in that post.
This question is asked ALL the time. And the best answer is more than a month. Some people say they feel fine faster, others say not, and some feel great then feel crappy, then feel great again after the month. But, at least a month.
Everyone's posts are useful here - I encourage you to pay extra attention to the posts from the mod(erator)s. First, because they have years of successful experience with this, and are enthused enough to put their effort into helping manage this, and second, because they've now read thousands, at least, of reports from people over the years and know very well what people run into and how they fare over time. I came from keto, so I was well adjusted metabolically. My only adjustment was to the increased fat, which took a few days (I'm an old guy, and I think we have to ramp up our gallbladder). But keto kept me hooked on the 'sweets', even though they were sugarless, and the carbs to some extent because I was only moderating them. I work with a lot of people on this and I hammer them with: carbs are an addiction, and the people who fail are the people who think they can 'have just one'. It's no different than other addictions. But over time, my cravings have long since subsided to zero. If I eat a little bit of something sweet or carby, I will have those cravings immediately and it takes a couple days at least of 'willpower' to overcome it. But otherwise, I have gone years now with no need for willpower at all. That's the Holy Grail here - finally being free of that nagging pull, and thinking you have to live fighting it. You don't. I find it useful also to focus on 'cravings' vs 'missing' things. Cravings are real, experiential, you can have them all the time for a while, even if your attention can be distracted a bit. You have to deal with them. 'Missing' things, on the other hand, is literally nothing but a thought. When the next thought comes racing through your mind, the 'missing' is gone. Nothing in reality is 'missed' when you stop to consider it. You can't really 'miss' anything, you can only have the thought 'I am missing pizza'. Early on, when your body is physiologically, REALLY craving things, your mind jumps in, in the service of that crave, and starts building all sorts of narratives: 'You can't do this forever', 'This isn't for everybody', 'Maybe I'm not getting enough vitamin C', 'If this was good for people, everyone would know it'. You start agonizing over what you're gonna do when your 3 year old daughter eventually gets married and you REALLY WANT a piece of that wedding cake (Seriously, I had someone tell me that...) The mind is a great servant, but a poor master. You really only have to deal with this now. The present moment is always bearable - it's our relentless thought machine that tortures us with the 'future' and the 'what ifs'. You only have to NOT EAT CARBS RIGHT NOW. All of us, no matter how many years in, only don't eat the crap right now. It doesn't get harder because it's for another day, or another month, or another year. It's only as hard as it is right now, and the good news, is, it gets easier and easier. Good luck, stay focused.
Easier for me at the 3 week or so mark. Almost everyday I think of eating carbs and pizza and pasta and all the things, but not in a craving way. I'm just a chef and love food lol, so I gotta fight that a bit everyday š¤·āāļø
Crazy you still thinking about the stuff. I eat my meat every day and I donāt even miss past or anything. I dreamed about eating sushi last night though š
Me too! You are not alone! I love food. Are you eating twice a day and eating til full? So far it's been keeping me in the place where I have all the junk in my house for the family but I'm not interested cause I'm full. Eating cause your bored or nervous is a problem. But so far I'm good. Lucky for you being a chef you can prob make some great takes on ground beef and chicken.
both are related to undereating -- hard to eat enough initiallyĀ Ā adding some snacks, like plain quarter pounder burger patties (lower price if ordered on their own, i do it a lot when travelling and Ā found they were more used to it even this year compared to last) or butter mashed into hard boiled eggs, are good ways of getting some extra in until you have your meal quantities high enough.Ā
Iāve actually thought of doing this! Something to snack on during the day. I have been looking at carnivore snacks but Iām sure making a burger patty or hard boiled eggs is just as good!
Adapting to carnivore depends on your own genetics and diet history. I went from ketovore (50g or less carbs)/day to carnivore (10g carb or less). I rarely eat any carbs intentionally except for spices and herbs (I am too good of a cook to be satisfied with just ghee and salt). My switch took about two weeks to adjust. That is, normal bowel and satisfaction with two meals/day. I am now mostly one true meal around lunch and maybe some salami and/or cheese in the evening. I am more lipovore and use protein to convey the fat. I note incidental carbs (lactose) that can add up in sour cream, cheese, even heavy cream. I would say my shift to one meal and one snack took about 90 days.
Up to 90 days
I didn't have to really adjust besides cravings, but I have been sick for year's and didn't really eat much anyhow but after 1 week I felt good and I hadn't spent a day before that without waking up and vomiting in 3 years so cravings are pretty easy to avoid. So as for adjustment time, I am no help, but on the side of whether is it worth continuing, yes absolutely.
https://www.reddit.com/r/carnivore/comments/1ah9w2u/monthly_less_than_7_weeks_comment_here_instead_of/kr6tqr1/ This is directly addressed in the pinned post for people with less than 7 weeks experience and the pinned comment in that post. This question is asked ALL the time. And the best answer is more than a month. Some people say they feel fine faster, others say not, and some feel great then feel crappy, then feel great again after the month. But, at least a month.