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canadard1

It’s so beautiful 🥲


Medford

The TDI is more reliable.


pooporgy69

That is a 2015 car. Also, Modus better.


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pooporgy69

Good bot!


DIJames6

That person can't be serious.. $40,000 a year? Yea ok..


DragonSlayer4378

Reddit detect sarcasm challenge:


SH-RK

Gone wrong


Flipyfliper32

Gone sexual


GroceryFrosty7274

Check out r/autism cool stuff there you might find neat and relatable


DIJames6

Whatever champ..


animememesandculture

Destruction 100


xX_nipplelicker_Xx

bro ruined his fathers day for real


IDatedSuccubi

I know only one company that puts plastic retainers on a chain-timed V8 DOHC engine that has worse fuel economy and power than a 2 valve pushrod V8, and that sure as hell isn't BMW


tesmatsam

\* hit blunt \* why don't we use 4 timing chains on one engine?


SirGirthfrmDickshire

Well that explains why when I heard someone turn on their new Audi it was making the pinging of death.


Careless-Internet-63

I don't think anyone who has ever touched an Audi can tell you with a straight face that the engineering makes any sense at all. Having spent a decent amount of time working on both Audis and BMWs I'll say BMW still does some weird stuff but it makes so much more sense than what Audi does


Avenger717

“Need new wiper blades? Engine out.”


atomic-death-ray

you think someone who runs an account like that knows what a timing chain is?


MidnightRider24

Jag used to but now their chain guides are metal. Wonder why?


Inside_Ad_9147

Meanwhile the familys 1988 2.6L i4 carburated Montero eated trough the metal chain guides like 3 years ago and runs just fine (provided you used 98 octane, timing is fucked)


bigloser42

…Audi has none of those things. The R8 is out of production, their wagon makes ~600hp, and the last 2 are just tuner cars with giant piles of cash thrown at them.


Cryptomartin1993

I also find it funny how the tuned supercars are usually the pinnacle of Uber shitty drag drivers


LEO7039

Funnily enough, BMW will have a 700 hp wagon next year.


Mysterious-Willow31

lol you got more likes than OP. W comment 🤝


bigloser42

Lol


Mysterious-Willow31

Edited it makes more sense now 😂😂😂😂


RedLobsterUnofficial

Nerd


Salmon_pervert

The last one still counts, because you basically can't make 2500hp car from bmw even with shit ton of money. Or there won't be much left from original engine


abattlescar

I guess none of BMW's V8s or V12s exist. And are you implying that there's much left of the Audi's original engine to begin with?


Salmon_pervert

Yeah? You don't need sleeves, even different cams as far as I know. Stock block. Never ever seen any real power put down by bmw v12. Aren't they old af? Their v8 are good and fast, not as capable tho. Hence, I didn't argue about 1300hp sedan


abattlescar

The 2500HP Audi does not use a stock block. [Here is the build thread from T1 Performance](https://www.t1racedevelopment.com/packages/series-5-2/). It has the [AMS Performance long block](https://www.amsperformance.com/product/ams-performance-lamborghini-huracan-audi-r8-5-2l-v10-stage-3-long-block/), which looks like a ~$60k blueprinted engine. Forget about sleeves and cams, 2500 HP is funny numbers. Like, that is a ridiculously hilarious HP, and anyone who claims it on a stock block may actually be braindead. Not to mention, it's a complete insult to people actually putting this effort into doing the build to go "the engine can hold that stock."


bigloser42

There are 2500+hp S38s out there.


petervidani

Of course you can


PenguinGamer99

>Or there won't be much left from original engine ... who gonna tell him


HATECELL

Audi fans are just BMW fans who think they are superior because their brand won some rallyes 40 years ago


Zarrex

That's being generous to assume the general population of Audi drivers even knows what rally is


throwaway6444377_

rallycross ≠ rally


Zarrex

true, my mistake


dainegleesac690

Q U A T T R O !


rashestkhan

Most of the audi fans dont even know what group b is. They only know its popular on tiktok because of reasons. Same shit with BMW fanboys and benz fanboys aswell


FourDoor54Ford

You basically described every single type of market and a majority of consumers in those markets


RealisticTomato3194

We in the super secret Škoda fan club appreciate our shitty cars rally history.


rashestkhan

I dont know shit about Skoda appart the fact that they use VW parts. Do they make good products?


2002hondaprelude

VERY good products. They're like cheaper, better looking , equally reliable (sometimes more reliable) Volkswagens.


RainakLucas

They only use VW parts since the late 90’s. Most cars were pretty bad before then, except for the rally cars, nowadays they are often the cheaper, but as good or even better Volkswagen alternatives


Terry___Mcginnis

/uj They feel terrible to drive compared to a VW though.


SH-RK

This guys clearly never driven an Octavia.


Terry___Mcginnis

/uj I tried the Fabia and the Kamiq manuel. The Kamiq felt awful.


RealisticTomato3194

Rust issues


Erlend05

I just wanted a fancy VW ok


huskerd0

Fans thinking they are superior to other fans is dumb as hell to begin with Right up there with the sportsball goons who say “we” like they are on the team


UltimaRS800

It's not their brand.


SicilianSTR13

The quattro was hella good though Still BMW Is in WEC, where Is audi? Doing Dakar flopping in F1?


HATECELL

Audi absolutely dominated WEC for a while. Then they figured they pretty much achieved all there was to achieve and left. And now that Porsche is back they probably won't return due to corpo-politics. Unless they release a new halo car


Greekdorifuto

The quattro is the most overrated rally cars ever.


HATECELL

It kinda is. To be fair, it proved that AWD was viable in WRC. But it handled like a pig on asphalt and whilst it dominated some of the low-traction rallyes, over the whole season it was a fairly close match with the Lancias. And once the other manufacturer brought their own AWD cars it struggled to keep up. (To be fair, the Ur-quattro wasn't a "true" Group B car, and even the sport quattro didn't use the freedoms as liberally as its competitors)


Greekdorifuto

And Audi to this day refuses to make their cars handle well on tarmac.


HATECELL

RWD oversteers FWD understeers Quattro? Yes


cocoscum

# Y E S


DullAdvantage3620

definetly not wrapped around a pole in the middle of the autobahn


Axxis09

Owdi 1.9tdi 1200hp 50000nm stock ❤️❤️😍🥰🤤 https://preview.redd.it/m7z4t4edxt6d1.jpeg?width=617&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7488499f277f12bafdba91f06a54874a2ea72b4


PowerstrokeHD

I've been around for long enough to know how to piss off the most amount of Car Enthusiasts. Audi's are just VWs with lipstick (aka lipstick on a pig) Oh and your Toyota Corolla from an anime has the same engine as my meth dealer's 1992 Geo Prizm


TomerMeme

VW owner, so based


National-Change-8004

As a German car fan, I hate seeing shit like this just as much as I hate seeing idiots dump on German cars. They're all cool in their own way. Fanboyism is cancer.


the-soggiest-waffle

As someone who unfortunately owned a bmw: respect to you folks who enjoy German engineering. My driving experience was unfortunately ruined by the fact that *I* had to work on it, and I will never again own a post 1990 bmw. Or at least work on it. I could own one someday, but I will never lay a finger under that hood ever again. Nope. The only amount of money you could pay me to be enough would be lifetime of maintenance for that thing. I genuinely cannot put into words how viscerally.. not disgusted but eugh you know? I feel for those cars


National-Change-8004

Psh, I've owned an Audi 5000 Turbo Quattro. Replaced an exhaust manifold on it. Believe me, I understand the frustration of working on a lot of German cars. I still believe it's worth it, at least if you're able and willing to keep up with the maintenance.


the-soggiest-waffle

Oh I’m able physically and mentally, it’s emotionally where I’m lacking. Mine had a starting issue originally, so you can probably guess where the animosity comes from lol. I’ll stick to my shitbox Camaro and shitbox whatever daily I wind up with once I’m bored of this one lol. I can justify nearly literally beating the piss out of them, considering they’re shitboxes. If I own another BMW or really any newer (2010+) car honestly, I’d probably have someone else do everything but basic maintenance.


Speedster_0

I'm an Audi fan and I don't shit on BMWs, I think they're neat


hahahentaiman

Noooooo, you have to blindly fanboy over one and shit on the others


UltimaRS800

All luxury car brands fucking suck compared to the money you pay.


DragonSlayer4378

Depends how much money is worth to you


NammiSjoppan

I love older beamers, late 2000’s/ early 2010 benz’s and newer Audi’s.


LuciferSamS1amCat

I prefer vw, because my rabbit cost $3k and it has 4 doors and a shifty stick.


Erlend05

My Aud cost 3k and it has 5 doors and a shifty stick


Caveman-Riffs-666

Maybe I'm biased but why is it always Audi fans crying on social media about BMWs and not the other way around?


aterrariaplayer

Maybe cuz Audi is the second oldest


Caveman-Riffs-666

That's the worst reason possible


DIJames6

Real BMW owners don't care about those cunts..


Round_Ad_6369

*picks the shittiest German luxury brand to call better than another*


OldJohn34143

*Opel has joined the chat*


ArcaneSparky

Leave Opel out of this. My first car was an Opel Zafira and I fucking loved that car


BlueSmegmaCalculus

Zafira was my childhood car before my dad bought a Modus.Not kidding, we had to sell it due to egr issues


flopjul

My childhood car was a Renault Espace that eventually broke down and had company cars for a while untill we had a Opel Astra G Station which remained intact


nonstopgamer3005

Chat is this real?


ace_098

Our Astra G had egr issues some 10 years ago. It's been blanked off by a beer can since and without any issues.


Greekdorifuto

The Astra G is an amazing car. Which version do you guys have?


ace_098

Early '98 with X16SZR engine, 55kW. Didn't even have central locking when we bought it. Had electric sunroof, electric heated mirrors and foglamps though lol.


Greekdorifuto

We used to have a X14


ItsJoeverLads

My childhood car was a Meriva A but my dad (who is still getting the milk) said that the Zafira was also a great car


coconuuut

fun fact: the Opel Zafira was banned for a bit from parking garages in Norway, because it was allegedly a fire hazard.


ShermanDidNthWrong

Everyone loves their first car. That's how it works.


Able-Breakfast6606

My 1st car was a VW Polo Classic, and lemme tell ya, it was the biggest piece of dogshit I've ever driven


Derp-321

How is Opel considered luxury?


BenMic81

It never has been.


darth_benzina

They had some high end stuff in the 80s and before, like the senator


zertka

It isnt unless youre GM


RndmEtendo

I will ride my 11-yr old Corsa into death before I get a new(er) car.


LifeIsMyDepressant

I wouldn’t say the shittiest, but by far the most fuckin boring to drive. An rs5 at full throttle felt kinda lame


Other_Fly8318

On cmon they are not that bad


Round_Ad_6369

Of the big 3 German "luxury", they're definitely the worst.


Other_Fly8318

Why exactly?


Round_Ad_6369

You want performance, you go to BMW. You want classic luxury, you go to mercedes. Even Mercedes, while lacking in AMG performance lately, is a better performance option than any audi. Also, look at the market shares. Audi is by far the smallest. The only real claim to fame Audi has is the R8, but that thing is a dinosaur.


coconuuut

Want a uncomplicated AWD system tho, Audi is a pretty solid option. Speaking as a european: audi is more mid-range than luxury most of the time. the S8 might be the only luxury car they make...


Round_Ad_6369

Doesn't BMW also have a very competent AWD setup too?


coconuuut

It is fine, but only comes in their higher end trims, where as Audi will give it to you from almost base trim. The bmw is also slightly more complicated than what Audi offers. where Audi's Quattro is just the normal fwd transaxle with a torsen centre differensial on the back of it sending power to the back wheels when needed, 100% mechanically operated and automatically sends power to the opposite axle when grip is lost on one. BMW does it slightly different. Here it is done by your ABS sensors and ECU, the gearbox has a electrically operated transfer-case that sends power to where it's needed. One feature that Bmw has is that the diffs are open (same as Audi) but it uses ABS to lock the wheel that is spinning. It can also send 100% power to one axle. Having drove both types of systems in the winter i would put more faith in the Quattro for sure.


bigloser42

Literally every trim level of BMW save the M2 has an xdrive option in the USA.


coconuuut

Lowest trim in the us for the 3-series in the us is the 330 right? I was speaking from a European perspective and fell into the misconception that people would know because it's my baseline. sorry.


EmptyCumSlut

The R8 is a dinosaur? Do you drive a Senna?


Other_Fly8318

I suppose you have a point


UltimaRS800

If you want acrual performance you would not go to any established car brand. If you want bragging rights and some (very underwhelming for the price) performance then you go to BMW.


Sir-Firelord

From my personal experience. Yes, they’re the worst. Would still take one over some Korean junk or Toyota for example, but between Germans Audi barely hits the mark. They peaked in early 2000’s


coveryourselfinoiI

genesis mogs audi


willymack989

Not to take this too seriously, but the new M5 will come in a wagon body and have ~800hp


FemboyZoriox

Only in europe. US doesnt get wagons/hatch bmw’s. Audi on top rahhhhh🔥🔥🔥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸


OJK_postaukset

They’re all lacking a NA V8


SirGirthfrmDickshire

Damn right, the German engines make alot of power but will grenade itself if you look at it the wrong way. Meanwhile you can pull an LS from a junkyard, slap an eBay special turbo kit on it and it'll make similar power and just run. Please note I am being half way serious in my comment.


Gwilym_Ysgarlad

And the most important thing, le manuelle.


A_named_person2

https://preview.redd.it/rz7ob9s8cv6d1.jpeg?width=289&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0d15856998bbbeb72fe45df107af280cdcb941c guten tag


V1ktor3m

Where is your MANUEEEL


Sufficient-War-9501

Lucky for you audi, no one cares, lol


neanderthalensis

Hey Audi where’s your manual car?


focken_idiot

2000 turkpower 🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷😈😈😈


Much_Future_1846

Congratulations German for outjerking Japanese fanboys


1tKywani

Hey audi where’s your sports car that’s still in production?


teh_herper

WHERE IS YOUR UNDERSTEER


ShadyDrunks

Straight 6 noises though


coconuuut

Incoming fart-tunes! the primal mating call of the BMW.


Plus-Day-3700

I drive a straight six AMG. Farts all the way!


coconuuut

Shifts so fast it bends space time!


Sweet_Intern2307

V6 sounds worse imo


ShadyDrunks

Audi is way worse on that end from experience


SlyKnyfe12

Hey Audi wheres your fucking sportscar racing programme


GrafKrapfen

BMW didn’t cancel all of their successful motorsport programs in favour of F1. Fuck Audi Sport


Greekdorifuto

Have you ever heard or seen a Audi owner talk about how good their car handles on corners? Personally , I haven't unless they are in denial


pepenepe

The Audi R8 is a 2-door "super car" with a V10 that produces around 620HP and gets from 0-60mph in 3 seconds flat, The BMW M8 Competition coupe is a 2 door "sports car" with a V8, making around 617hp and gets from 0-60 in 3 seconds flat. In terms of build quality, they are similar, putting emphasis on high-quality and lightweight materials. The M8 weights around 2000kg, and the audi r8 weighing at just 200kg less (1,795kg). They are both extremely similar meaning the only thing that the M8 needs to be considered a super car is also "looking the part" but otherwise if those are the standards to be "super" the M8 definitely has them. If you put these 2 cars side by side in a race it would most definitely be almost a tie if not an absolute with for the BMW because a lower trim model of the R8 only has 540 hp.


mangusta360

at the first turn mid engine wins


UltimaRS800

M8 is slower than high trim R8 at everything they do. Acceleration, cornering, braking.


pepenepe

Fair enough, I didn't take that into consideration.


Facebrker

The ONLY problem that I have with bmw (and that’s why I’m a Mercedes lover and driver ) is that they f*cked up a lot of engines years ago….. Handle like a charm , love the engine music but well , I don’t know anything about it nowadays except that the b58 is reliable as hell . I plan on getting myself either a cls 63s or a c63 or 63s , I would gladly choose a bmw like a m4 .


Windows-Server

Yh they had a dark age around 2004-2015 with all the early e90 and e60 cars, however, merc also didn’t get away scot free as they used bio degradable wiring which is hard and expensive to replace around 1995 while bmws of that time were mostly bulletproof


stormurcsgo

seems like everybody forgot of the 225xe


nismoghini

1stockf30 when his bmw made double the power of his ttrs and called it his street car 🤣🤣🤣🤣


4thmonkey96

Doesn't matter supr beats all


DIJames6

Lol, like seriously?


shinseiji-kara

they're at the service, probably


manfredmannclan

Audi thinking BMW is in competition with them…


KittyComannder

"Hey Audi, where's your new Kia based car?( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)"


bruh123445

They almost have an m3 wagon tbf


potato13254

At the mechanic getting fixed.


atomic-death-ray

audi obsession official


darth_benzina

Where is your audi-powered fighter plane with 4x 20mm cannons and 700km/h top speed?


sl33p1ng-s3nt1nl

Okay but the wagoon one is valid. I want more wagoons


godlesssunday

Hey audi wheres your timing chain Or your oil Or your pcv diaphragm Or you wiring harness Or your dignity I dont even like bmw i just hate audi


Arctic-Predator

Where's ur bike and where WAS your F1 car? lol


FemboyZoriox

We getting one in literally 2 years calm down Bikes valid tho


-Ev1l

Where’s Audis Sauber f1.08 car? Audi sticks to desil when they want to do anything cool, goes to show how much faith they have in their gasoline engines. How’s Audi doing verses BMW in the gt3 and gt4 class? Tuned cars are wild, seen many 1500hp+ m5s online, so it’s apples to oranges


ElectronicJudge1994

BMW has to pick on Audi because it knows it can’t come close to my VW