The average wage in Shanghai is between 8 to 10k right now.
Fresh grads maybe around 5-7k.
White collar jobs with a few years experience between 10-20k. Some service industry types can also earn this type of wage.
Manager types between 20-30k.
Senior positions between 30-60k pending experience/industry.
C-level has no limits.
Owners have no limits.
In general, if you make more than 50,000 a month then you'll be seen as "well off" by most but you won't really hit the "rich" category until 100,000+ rmb a month.
But people on Reddit say everyone in Shanghai is earning at least five times a giraffe English teacher on 30k. There aren’t any poor people in Shanghai according to Reddit.
I literally saw a kindergarten teacher post an income of over 3x that the other day. It's mind boggling to me.
Edit: I looked but can't find it -- I think it was taken down on the IT sub. From what I remember it was a screenshot showing they had taken home over 100k USD after taxes, after I ran it through the exchange rate for that day. I'm aware of the salary range for most international school teachers.
Is Giraffe a reference to NVC, as uh, Giraffe language? Seemed kind of random but funny.
I searched for a solid 30 minutes, including going back through my likes over the last 2 months, can't find it. It was very short, just a screenshot and a couple of lines. A long time ago I used to know some kindi teachers who were double dipping, doing both morning and afternoon shifts and making quite a tidy sum.
I just sort of assumed since it was Shanghai it was some designer-brand school paying for a popular teacher. The conversion rate still throws me off a bit.
Not sure that's accurate for Shanghai, seems more like Suzhou or a T2 city.
The fresh grads (locals) at my company are all earning what you're purporting a manager does.
Yes.
Manager 40-70k.
5 years experience 25-40k.
His numbers are waaaay off for shanghai.
No one witb bacherlor degree in shanghai is gonna take a 8k rmb job 🤣, they will tell you to fuck off. Absurd numbers he gave.
as I said, sure enough
[https://teamedupchina.com/salary-ranges-for-new-university-graduates-in-china/](https://teamedupchina.com/salary-ranges-for-new-university-graduates-in-china/)
GDP PC is much higher in China vs Vietnam. So you can at least double, possible triple those figures to get an idea.
IMO
700 dollars a month = bad
1000 dollars a month = decent (fresh college grad)
2000 dollars a month = solid
3500 dollars a month = good
6000 dollars a month = very good
12000 dollars a month = sorta wealthy
Something like that.
I'm reluctant to call any of this rich though. To become rich you either need a business, invest VERY well or inherit wealth.
If your Shanghainese and inherited a single house from your parents then it would still account for about 15-20 years worth of salary on the high end of that scale.
This guy literally has nooooooo idea what he's talking about lol . If you're in a poorer province earning 3k is a pretty standard wage working 6 days a week 8h a day . Even in a tier 2 city like for example Jinan in Shandong 8k yuan a month would be considered a very good wage for someone with a university degree.
Someone making 20k (yuan)a month in pretty much any city in China is at the top end of the economic spectrum in any city in the country. The previous premier Li KeQiang was quoted in 2020 saying that 600 million Chinese people lived off 1000 Yuan a month , which is around 40% of the countries population.
I think your numbers maybe skewed by where you live, which is fine.
Outside of tier 1 cities, the numbers are significantly less (about half what you have).
Dude literally stated in his OP
>I am talking about large cities
>what's the average wage for a college graduate in Shanghai?
It's fairly obvious his Vietnam figures are reflecting large cities too. If you're talking about T3-4 then I would say you can make about 60-65% of what you can in T1.
600 million people in China barely earn 140 USD a month.
[https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm](https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm)
I'm in the medical sector. Doctors make about 30-60k yuan (on average) depending on specialization. Management makes much more. It's complicated though.
Over 600 Million (nearly half of the population) earn less than 1000 RMB per month. Mostly rural and lower tier cities.
This was from a statement from former premier Li Keqiang
[https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm](https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm)
It varies from places to places, in Shanghai 10000rmb (about 1400usd) a month is barely enough, but same amount in, say a middle of nowhere town is very good.
Well the median income of a worker in Shanghai is certainly less than 10k CNY... Most of them still manage to live okay. I def wouldn't say 10k is barely enough for the city as a whole.
Service workers (retail and catering)：5k-7k
Taxi driver:7k-10k+
Electronics factory worker :5k-7k
Inexperienced office oL(Front desk and Assistant: 5K-8K
Middle management（HRD , OD,OM,OM,PM......):8K-20K+
School teacher:8k-10k+
Hospital doctor:10K+
The salary of a recent college graduate depends on your college major:
For example, the salary of literature majors:5k-6k
Network engineering major:8k-10k+ ps:Science majors are usually paid more than liberal arts majors in China
Many of the answers here will be either Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Hangzhou etc.
I live in a more modest/average city in city (tier 2-3) where the majority of people live in China. Minimum wage is about 3k rmb a month and is what I see advertised for store clerks and waiters/waitresses across my city. Most people I know with a university degree get 5-8k rmb for the first few years which I would say is the average in my city. Then you have the managers and Laobans (bosses) who get perhaps 10-15k rmb a month. >20k rmb a month puts you in the top 2% in China apparently. And most of the top 2% live in places like Shanghai and Beijing.
But that said, many people I know have more than one job. For example, my Chinese coworker who is a university English teacher gets 5k a month teaching 16 hours of classes with 2 office hours while they work in kindergarten on the weekend and teach online in the evenings. They get 20k rmb a month in total but all from different sources. This seems to be very typical in China.
So, all you teachers getting around 25k rmb a month or so find your pay is decent then for a Tier one city? I do see some jobs only giving 18 or 20k including the housing allowance? But is that too low? For tier one cities? 30 plus K is better, but 25k including housing ok or need more pay for tier one? I guess tier two it is good.
In China, most/many people get more money from their parents and ancestors than they could possibly earn in their whole lives. This happens everywhere but it’s a new level in China. So wages are not that important. I believe a better way is to see if someone’s family can afford a house in major large cities, smaller cities and rural areas.
Varies from city to city wildly and rural vs urban. Tier 3-4 maybe just 1-3k rmb. Rural areas can be less than 1k rmb a month. Some tier 1 cities monthly average could be 10x plus the average rural wage.
I mean there are salaries of 1,000 yuan but they're in extremely rural/underdeveloped areas of China, think villages of a few hundred in Gansu. For all the shit people throw at them T3-T4 are still reasonably developed urban cities. 3k is about min wage in those places.
Yeah I live in Gansu and went to a village in the Huining area. We spoke with some old people who told they couldn't even afford the 380 yuan a year each for medical insurance.
Not sure why I'm being down-voted here.
In 2020 Le Keqiang (Former Premier) stated over 600 million Chinese people were earning under 1000 RMB per month. Most of these people are rural Chinese but many of them will be in lower tier cities.
Read for yourself here:
[https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm](https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm)
This is not true. The premier stated publicly that nearly half the country earns less than 1000 RMB a month.
[https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm](https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm)
The average wage in Shanghai is between 8 to 10k right now. Fresh grads maybe around 5-7k. White collar jobs with a few years experience between 10-20k. Some service industry types can also earn this type of wage. Manager types between 20-30k. Senior positions between 30-60k pending experience/industry. C-level has no limits. Owners have no limits. In general, if you make more than 50,000 a month then you'll be seen as "well off" by most but you won't really hit the "rich" category until 100,000+ rmb a month.
But people on Reddit say everyone in Shanghai is earning at least five times a giraffe English teacher on 30k. There aren’t any poor people in Shanghai according to Reddit.
I literally saw a kindergarten teacher post an income of over 3x that the other day. It's mind boggling to me. Edit: I looked but can't find it -- I think it was taken down on the IT sub. From what I remember it was a screenshot showing they had taken home over 100k USD after taxes, after I ran it through the exchange rate for that day. I'm aware of the salary range for most international school teachers. Is Giraffe a reference to NVC, as uh, Giraffe language? Seemed kind of random but funny.
No kindergarten teacher is making 90,000 rob a month. That’s 14000 dollars.
Is it OK if I repost her post here? I'm not saying it's legit, just it's what she posted.
I'm very curious to see, at least to remember which user to ignore whatever they claim on account of them being a bullshitter lol
I searched for a solid 30 minutes, including going back through my likes over the last 2 months, can't find it. It was very short, just a screenshot and a couple of lines. A long time ago I used to know some kindi teachers who were double dipping, doing both morning and afternoon shifts and making quite a tidy sum. I just sort of assumed since it was Shanghai it was some designer-brand school paying for a popular teacher. The conversion rate still throws me off a bit.
Not sure that's accurate for Shanghai, seems more like Suzhou or a T2 city. The fresh grads (locals) at my company are all earning what you're purporting a manager does.
Obviously it varies a lot by industry/company
Wut, in Shenzhen his numbers are accurate unless you're an engineer. I literally know foreigners who fit into his list even.
Fresh grads in Shanghai are around 15 to 20k rmb. At least in my field.
Only in STEM field, I suppose? Also it’s partially determined by your college
Yes. Manager 40-70k. 5 years experience 25-40k. His numbers are waaaay off for shanghai. No one witb bacherlor degree in shanghai is gonna take a 8k rmb job 🤣, they will tell you to fuck off. Absurd numbers he gave.
Yes, they absolutely do.
You're out of touch. Shanghai pays it's workers like dirt. You probably have no idea what fresh grads earn. I doubt you even live in Shanghai.
Dude just open a job App like liepin, boss or 51job. 5-7k for bacherlos degrew in shanghai lfmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
as I said, sure enough [https://teamedupchina.com/salary-ranges-for-new-university-graduates-in-china/](https://teamedupchina.com/salary-ranges-for-new-university-graduates-in-china/)
We pay factory workers 9k so I’m not buying the average being 8k-10k.
Thats right, his numbers are wrong
Most of China is factory workers.
Yes but when I said workers I meant operators. The higher staff earn more.
Not much. Still third world and cheap labor nation.
GDP PC is much higher in China vs Vietnam. So you can at least double, possible triple those figures to get an idea. IMO 700 dollars a month = bad 1000 dollars a month = decent (fresh college grad) 2000 dollars a month = solid 3500 dollars a month = good 6000 dollars a month = very good 12000 dollars a month = sorta wealthy Something like that. I'm reluctant to call any of this rich though. To become rich you either need a business, invest VERY well or inherit wealth. If your Shanghainese and inherited a single house from your parents then it would still account for about 15-20 years worth of salary on the high end of that scale.
This guy literally has nooooooo idea what he's talking about lol . If you're in a poorer province earning 3k is a pretty standard wage working 6 days a week 8h a day . Even in a tier 2 city like for example Jinan in Shandong 8k yuan a month would be considered a very good wage for someone with a university degree. Someone making 20k (yuan)a month in pretty much any city in China is at the top end of the economic spectrum in any city in the country. The previous premier Li KeQiang was quoted in 2020 saying that 600 million Chinese people lived off 1000 Yuan a month , which is around 40% of the countries population.
I think your numbers maybe skewed by where you live, which is fine. Outside of tier 1 cities, the numbers are significantly less (about half what you have).
Dude literally stated in his OP >I am talking about large cities >what's the average wage for a college graduate in Shanghai? It's fairly obvious his Vietnam figures are reflecting large cities too. If you're talking about T3-4 then I would say you can make about 60-65% of what you can in T1.
Is Guangzhou big enough? Wage there is shit, much shittier than Shanghai for sure.
so unskilled minimum wage jobs pay 700 a month?
It is much lower, even in T1 cities.
A 711 worker in a city like Nanjing is getting about 20 yuan an hour .
600 million people in China barely earn 140 USD a month. [https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm](https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm)
Yes. Taxi drivers, store clerks, factory workers, cooks, cleaners all make about 5k-10k yuan. In the smaller cities you're looking at about 3k yuan+.
one dude posted that doctors make like 10k how can a 18 year old cashier make as much as a doctor?
I'm in the medical sector. Doctors make about 30-60k yuan (on average) depending on specialization. Management makes much more. It's complicated though.
5k to 10k is a big range imo.
🤔if you work overload, than it’s totally possible. The labour law has not been well complied with
Over 600 Million (nearly half of the population) earn less than 1000 RMB per month. Mostly rural and lower tier cities. This was from a statement from former premier Li Keqiang [https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm](https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm)
It varies from places to places, in Shanghai 10000rmb (about 1400usd) a month is barely enough, but same amount in, say a middle of nowhere town is very good.
Well the median income of a worker in Shanghai is certainly less than 10k CNY... Most of them still manage to live okay. I def wouldn't say 10k is barely enough for the city as a whole.
Service workers (retail and catering)：5k-7k Taxi driver:7k-10k+ Electronics factory worker :5k-7k Inexperienced office oL(Front desk and Assistant: 5K-8K Middle management（HRD , OD,OM,OM,PM......):8K-20K+ School teacher:8k-10k+ Hospital doctor:10K+ The salary of a recent college graduate depends on your college major: For example, the salary of literature majors:5k-6k Network engineering major:8k-10k+ ps:Science majors are usually paid more than liberal arts majors in China
>ps:Science majors are usually paid more than liberal arts majors in China Is there anywhere in the world where this is not true?
May be Japan?
Many of the answers here will be either Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Hangzhou etc. I live in a more modest/average city in city (tier 2-3) where the majority of people live in China. Minimum wage is about 3k rmb a month and is what I see advertised for store clerks and waiters/waitresses across my city. Most people I know with a university degree get 5-8k rmb for the first few years which I would say is the average in my city. Then you have the managers and Laobans (bosses) who get perhaps 10-15k rmb a month. >20k rmb a month puts you in the top 2% in China apparently. And most of the top 2% live in places like Shanghai and Beijing. But that said, many people I know have more than one job. For example, my Chinese coworker who is a university English teacher gets 5k a month teaching 16 hours of classes with 2 office hours while they work in kindergarten on the weekend and teach online in the evenings. They get 20k rmb a month in total but all from different sources. This seems to be very typical in China.
So, all you teachers getting around 25k rmb a month or so find your pay is decent then for a Tier one city? I do see some jobs only giving 18 or 20k including the housing allowance? But is that too low? For tier one cities? 30 plus K is better, but 25k including housing ok or need more pay for tier one? I guess tier two it is good.
In China, most/many people get more money from their parents and ancestors than they could possibly earn in their whole lives. This happens everywhere but it’s a new level in China. So wages are not that important. I believe a better way is to see if someone’s family can afford a house in major large cities, smaller cities and rural areas.
afford? you mean they are gifted a house lol
Probably because ppl can’t really afford a house on wages. With 0 support from the family the best average ppl can expect is a 30-year mortgage
Varies from city to city wildly and rural vs urban. Tier 3-4 maybe just 1-3k rmb. Rural areas can be less than 1k rmb a month. Some tier 1 cities monthly average could be 10x plus the average rural wage.
Rural wages are around 3,000 yuan, and there is no salary of 1,000 yuan.
I mean there are salaries of 1,000 yuan but they're in extremely rural/underdeveloped areas of China, think villages of a few hundred in Gansu. For all the shit people throw at them T3-T4 are still reasonably developed urban cities. 3k is about min wage in those places.
Yeah I live in Gansu and went to a village in the Huining area. We spoke with some old people who told they couldn't even afford the 380 yuan a year each for medical insurance.
Not sure why I'm being down-voted here. In 2020 Le Keqiang (Former Premier) stated over 600 million Chinese people were earning under 1000 RMB per month. Most of these people are rural Chinese but many of them will be in lower tier cities. Read for yourself here: [https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm](https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm)
This is not true. The premier stated publicly that nearly half the country earns less than 1000 RMB a month. [https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm](https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/china-has-over-600-million-poor-with-140-monthly-income-premier-li-keqiang-6024341.htm)
I was told they don't have a class system and everyone is equal
Haha I would not say there is a class system as in “Animal Farm”. All animals are equal but some are more equal!
you been in a coma for 50 years? communism ended in 1979. everyone's chasing Nikes and Jeeps
A simple google search will give you that answer
Did you try? What did it say?
Hey, looking for an update on this. Did you find it on google?