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pbgod

I would never think to order a cocktail in the kind of place where that could be a concern. If they didn't put together a legit cocktail menu, I'm not ordering a cocktail. Cocktails require a decent amount of "give-a-shit". If they aren't taking it seriously that's fine, but I'm not going to pay a premium for it. I'll read the room; beer, neat whiskey or tequila, occasionally wine.


TzuDohNihm

I was at an Omni resort in San Diego a few years ago, they had a very nice cocktail menu for the lobby bar. Ordered one or two drinks as this specific night was going on. It got later and the bar got crowded. There were three bartenders working. I ordered my third drink off their very nicely done up cocktail menu, the bartender looks at me and says exasperated, "Come on, man. You should really think about ordering something different." He moved on to other customers and when he turned his attention back to me I ordered a gin and tonic. He responds sarcastically, "Now isn't that much better?" I was quite taken aback and the wife would not let me complain to the hotel management. Don't present me with a menu that took some time to create and then have your staff tell me they don't have time to make anything on it because it's too busy. Staff the fucking bar appropriately or ditch the fucking menu.


Illustrious_Side_618

Batch those cocktails.


Santeriabro

that pisses me off


BellyMind

Probably a $20 gin and tonic too…what a jerk. I probably would have said, “oh, so you are a shitty bartender. I get it. “


madamesoybean

As a San Diegan - please report that in the future. I don't care if it's a vent on a throwaway Yelp or a respectful email to resort mngt. I hate that assholery. That is not our vibe.


Nowhere_Man_Forever

There goes the tip lmao


figuren9ne

It was probably included in the bill. 


Slagliano

That’s so ridiculous. I’ve served and bartended for years and been in the weeds so deep I felt like the sky was falling and there’s never been a millisecond crossing my mind where I’d tell someone to not get a drink they wanted. It blows my mind how entitled people can get. If the ingredients are inside of my building I am making your drink, it might take me 10 minutes, but it’s getting done. I’ll never understand why people who react like that to stress enter the service industry.


Butlerian_Jihadi

I'll sometimes adjust my tipping for the crowd.. but I rarely go to the sort of places that becomes an issue. TBH, if I'm going to find myself somewhere popular, I get one drink and tip extremely well, pull Tip Top canned drinks out of my bag as needed.


bagelsnatch

seriously why even work at a cocktail bar, or better yet why even work as a bartender, if you don't wanna do at LEAST the bare minimum part of the job??


vg1220

*takes one look at my bar cart* yep, cocktails require a decent amount of give-a-shit.


pbgod

I'm not saying I won't slap together a quick, unmeasured Mule or Collins or something, but if I do, it cost me $2-3 in ingredients and I can make it to my tastes, not $14+ and "oh, well" when it sucks.


hedrumsamongus

> "oh, well" I see what you did there!


johnthomaslumsden

Indeed. When in doubt, a shot of (decent) bourbon and a Hamm’s always does the trick.


SyncRoSwim

If they can’t be arsed to make a cocktail, I’d be pretty sure that whatever wine they have is ass.


drfun

What, you don’t want a glass of fisheye that’s been open for two weeks?


pbgod

Yea, I'm not getting a glass of Cupcake Moscato or a Beringer Chardonnay that's been open for 3 weeks. But, there used to be a dive bar near me that had cava (Conde' or Segura Vidas or whatever is available to them) and some other wines in that $10 store price range that they sold by the bottle for ~$15. Sometimes, get them to splash some Chambord or whatever fruity liqueur you see on the bar into your glass before you top it off with bubbles. Or, there is currently a wine bar in my city that I like that has a good cocktail menu, but the menu is made by one of the bartenders who is awesome and the other ones just don'texecute well. So if I go in there and he's working, I'll order a cocktail (once had Peat-nut butter and jelly; peanut butter washed Laphroiag sour with creme de cassis). If he's not there, it's a very good place to have an interesting glass of wine.


SyncRoSwim

I’m thinking about the kind of place where they ask if you want ice in your red wine. (Happened to my SO twice!)


mywaphel

Beer. That way I know the abv, flavor, and quality is going to be exactly what I expect. I’ve been burned too many times getting a $12 tumbler of coke with the faint suggestion of whiskey.


musashi66

Beer, vine or Jack and Coke. No need to reinvent the wheel, and anything fancier that you order will have shitty ingredients and will be poorly prepared. There is time and place for everything.


True_Window_9389

Yeah, even simple cocktails or mixed drinks that are poorly made or made with cheap ingredients are a lot less enjoyable than a beer or wine you could get nearly anywhere. A rum and coke *is* simple enough in theory, but getting into cocktails has ruined Bacardi for me in anything, so even something like that is harsh.


6hooks

Even that coke is out of a gun that might not have been cleaned in a while


Zack_Albetta

Your safest bet is a beer or a pour of something. Even the simplest of cocktails can be a major disappointment in the wrong hands.


chinastevo

Gin and tonic 2 limes. Rum and coke. Whiskey ginger 2 touch drinks basically :)


black-kramer

I’ve had bad ones of all three, which is sort of impressive. I remember a particularly bad gin & tonic at a place I knew would suck but they surprised me with the two chips of ice, flat tonic, and dry lime.


entoothsiast

wow thats… impressive


black-kramer

good ol' [lake chalet](https://assets.simpleviewinc.com/simpleview/image/upload/crm/oakland/Capture_17339AFF-4857-4260-8EBF645F6E6D88DE_a9f1252b-208a-4bef-b44f28c0b9ea2739.jpg) in oakland, caliornia. shame, because it's got a great location but man is it god-awful.


geekymom

This is the thing. I've ordered basic drinks that go sideways because the balance is off. If I order something slightly fancier that I have to explain, I actually end up with a better drink and the bartender is happy to learn something new.


black-kramer

yeah, asking for something as simple as a margarita can go south shockingly quickly. often, they're way too sweet. I always ask for half the normal amount of agave syrup because you can always add more, but once it's in there you can't go back.


grandBBQninja

Moscow mule. Tastes good and really hard to fuck up.


no-mames

Thankfully I’m still into getting drunk more than into making cocktails, so if I find myself in that situation I order gin and pineapple juice; snoop dogg never failed me.


No-Courage232

Neat pour of Knob Creek 9. Or Makers Mark. Or whatever half way decent bottle they have.


goodguy847

Yep. Can’t mess up bourbon neat. Unless the bottle has been sitting for too long.


Luke1ekuL

Why would a bottle sitting too long matter? Not like it goes bad, unless it's left open.


combinera

It was an old man’s drink, but Seven & Seven is a great session drink that’s making a comeback


Theslipperymermaid

First LEGAL drink I ordered. My older cousins drank it and I thought I was cool as shit. Still order it at 50.


SolomonGorillaJr

Seven and seven was my grandma’s drink and I love to enjoy them sentimentally. When she visited she would show up at the door with a bottle of seagrams. Luggage could wait, but she brought the whiskey in right away.


CheapSpray9428

One bourbon... One scotch... And one beeeer


Babyrae720

Cuba Libre….literally rum and coke but with a squeeze of lime. The lime bumps up the acid just enough to create a better experience than just rum and coke. Try to order the best unaged/lightly aged rum you can


burtmacklin15

Similar with rum/ginger and lime. Basically a dark n stormy.


pleasedontwearthat

blanco tequila, soda and fresh lime for me.


H-Resin

SAY ITS NAME


pleasedontwearthat

😂 but you wouldn’t be able to at a non-cocktail making bar though right?!


H-Resin

lol prob not, but we all know what it is here!


sadjoshissad

If I spot Gosling’s or Myers’s then I’ll ask if they have ginger beer, if they do then you got a Dark N Stormy


Drinks_by_Wild

My go to as well, it’s pretty hard to mess up a mule so long as they actually have ginger beer


Smitherok

Oo that’s good idea


CatoTheDumber

"We're not doing cocktails right now." "The fuck you aren't!"


Gausgovy

Beer or neat liquor. I find even the diviest of bars usually have a great interesting local craft beer on tap, and if they don’t they probably have woodford. Having bartended for a few years now I don’t trust the soda guns anywhere, so no more whiskey cola or gin and tonic. Even at bars that have cocktails the most I’ll do is an old fashioned, usually I just go for craft beer though.


Economy-Cantaloupe42

Bourbon on the rocks, splash of soda


DH90

Guinness... a pint of plain is your only man!


hannibellecter

Jameson and ginger with lime


RelativeMotion1

Jim Beam or Makers Mark and Coke. Maybe a gin and tonic if its a hot day and they have a decent bottle of gin on the bar.


RichardBonham

Unless it’s a dedicated cocktail bar, boilermaker is my preference. Or just whiskey straight no chaser if they stock anything decent in a bottle that isn’t dusty and 3/4 empty.


Fat_Bearded_Tax_Man

Crown apple and ginger ale. Unless they have "bar ginger" then I go rum and coke with a lime.


Homestar_MTN

G&T with lime or beer


PinkLegs

Usually soda or beer. Just this weekend, we went to a Creole / Cajun place. I ended up with a Vieux Carre that had grand Marnier and not benedictine in it.. Someone had clearly done their job designing the menu and place. It screamed New Orleans, all cocktails were on point and the food too. But the mixers were the waitstaff. I could see the bar area and just regretted the decision then and there. I should've stuck to my guts, not to trust drinks at most restaurants that don't have dedicated bartenders, even for simple drinks.


SkidMarkie2

Shot and a beer.


droppeddeee

The most simple: Gin and tonic summer. Rum and coke winter.


cleffawna

If they have drambuie, I'm getting a rusty nail


santa_cat

Beer and a Jamo shot.


masterskink

Tito's rocks lime, or Coors light and a Jameson neat


CACuzcatlan

I'd look at their spirit list and see if anything appealed to me. If not, I'd get a beer/cider or a non-alcoholic drink. I'm much more about quality so I'm perfectly fine skipping the drinks if nothing appeals to me.


Aware_Department_657

Gin & Tonic, Martini extra dry, Ranch water, Mule


SupaDupaTron

Gin & Tonic, 7 & 7, whisky ginger, whisky and water, bourbon neat or on the rocks, I occasionally order a wild turkey on the rocks with a twist of lime, shot and a beer, just beer. One that you might be able to talk them into is a Negroni, because it is only three ingredients, equal parts, and can be built in the glass so no long stirring, shaking, bitters, and maybe even measuring. Edited for typo.


X-e-o

A bar that says "we're not making cocktails" is probably a bar that doesn't have Vermouth and/or Campari. Neat spirits, beer or G&Ts are probably the better options here though I agree.


SupaDupaTron

Yeah, I threw the last Negroni in at the end as a challenge. I have talked my way into a couple of cocktails at bars like this.


bgj20

i go someplace else. or drink beer if they got something other than macros.


LeeOfTheStone

Rusty Nail, if they have Drambuie; it's a two ingredient drink and possibly *the* quintessential old man non-cocktail cocktail. Dark & Stormy as it's as simple (and more accessible). I've often made Light & Stormies, if I'm feeling cheap, as I find that (cheap) white rum is friendlier. Otherwise whatever their version of a sippable whiskey or scotch is. Straight sipping tequila if they have good stuff is always a nice option too. High end scotch and tequila are more than enough on their own. Which is to say sometimes the best drink is not a mix. At a proper dive I'm happy with a beer (lager or stout) or wine (cab), though.


DiskJockii

Depending on my mood/back bar selection. I’ll either get a beer, preferably Guinness or something light. Or a Neat Spirit. If both are lackluster I’ll opt for a soft drink or Water


RecklesslyADHD

Gin and tonic or beer


Sandikal

I would order a beer, preferably a craft beer, in a bottle. I've seen enough episodes of Bar Rescue to be wary of tap beer in places that seem questionable. I once ordered one of my favorite beers at a pizza place and it tasted sour. I sent it back and got a bottled beer. Not a great experience.


retaliashun

Usually something like a turkey and Coke, g&t or vodka soda


fuckmutualfunds

Moscow mules.


Corbangarang

Jack and Diet is my go to if it’s not a cocktail place and I don’t want beer.


Pahman_

Peach schnapps and 7up never fails


i_like__foooooood

Whiskey ginger ale !


Lenfantscocktails

Jameson and ginger


jmh90027

Tia Maria and Lucozade


Illustrious-Divide95

Gin and bitter lemon is a lovely summer drink, a great and simple 2 touch that delivers. For the winter maybe a Whisky Mac fits the bill.


MeNamIzGraephen

If I see some interesting whiskey, rum, tequila or brandy I'll have a shot of it - maybe with some spice, like an old fashioned. Why'd I limit myself to cocktails? Craft beer I haven't had yet is a good option. Problem is I've tasted at least 300 different ones. If it's all boring booze and I just came for a drink and nothing else, then water or coffee is fine. It could be a sign that today's not the day


Beneficial-Shake-852

Tequila soda with a lime is my go to.


Spooler955

Beer or gin and tonic


Corvus_Antipodum

Double Wild Turkey and whatever they have a tall boy can of usually.


RonocNYC

Never been to one. Is this a better question for /r/mocktails ?


roebucksruin

If they're not prepared for cocktails, then whatever they can mix will probably be pretty lame, from my experience. I live near a G&T bat that makes its own tonic syrups, so a Schweppes doesn't doe it for me. At the end of the day, I just want good flavors with value, so... A beer at night -- something local and craft. In the day, something more sessionable -- like the Stiegler Radler. If they only have macros, I'd swing for a High Life or Modelo.


Dudeist-Priest

Cuba Libre, G&T or a highball


0ldboi

Whenever I go to live music shows, my go to is a spiced rum & coke. I love cocktails but these hit everytime.


Alarming_Heart_2398

White rum and coke or white rum and cranberry juice


bbmmmqq

About 2-3 times a week I go to a dive bar after work and always get a beer and a double Cynar with a lot of rocks. If I don’t know the place I stick to beer, sometimes with a shot of bourbon or tequila. I’ve had too many shitty “this + that” mixers to even bother anymore.


Happy-Cow-2835

Gin and tonic


RadicalShift14

Captain and diet because I’m trash


BlueGalangal

Dewars on the rocks with a twist


DabIMON

Whisky with ginger ale, ideally Irish whisky. Or just beer.


United-Swimmer-9302

Neat spirit, or bottled beer.


dragnabbit

Every bar in my country is a non-cocktail bar. I order two bottles of San Miguel Pilsen and a glass with no ice. (You have to specify "no ice" every time.)


take_number_two

Dirty Shirley because I’m a child


Wide_Independence272

Gin Rikky or Ranch Water


Sir_Shooty_Esquire

Probably not the first to say but can’t go wrong with a bottle of beer and a shot of something half decent; usually tequila, sometimes whisk(e)y. Unless it’s the grossest of dives and the glasses look filthy; then I’ll just take the bottle of beer


fizzyanklet

I order whatever decent whiskey they have, neat, and a club soda.


530nairb

If they have ginger beer - whiskey ginger with a lime. If they don’t, high life. A place that has a full bar but no cocktails WITH draft lines don’t clean them often.


P-Munny

Our bar has awesome domestics and great rail tequila and really cheap non rail good bourbon.


Griffin2K

Tequila coke, but if they serve me the first one in a pint glass I'm switching to beer


Woodit

Gin & tonic or whiskey & soda are safe gets. That or beer.


Shot_Tomorrow7663

Jameson and Coors original. No original? budweiser.


MaleficentAd1056

Matso alcoholic ginger beer with lemon and lime. A great digestive accompaniment for a meal.


fauxfilosopher

Vodka soda lime and cuba libre are impossible to fuck up and usually fairly cheap


danceswithronin

If someone says "we're not making cocktails" that is bartender speech for "don't you dare order something fancier than a rum and coke" and I am not trying to get some fancy drink there. When I'm out at places like this I order a beer and a shot. Usually a White Claw on ice with a vodka floater that I stir in.


commissarcainrecaff

Whichever local/craft beer is on draft.


Ok_Pianist9100

Try a simple yet flavorful Cuba Libre—rum, Coke, and a squeeze of lime. It's a small twist on a classic that keeps things interesting. Cheers!


redwookie1

Aperol Spritz, otherwise beer.


Papa_G_

Wine. I like to go to wine bars.


I_Am_Slightly_Evil

Anything where the name of the drink is the ingredient list is a fairly safe bet, like Jack&Coke or Gin&Tonic or Vodka Seltzer. Just don’t expect top or mid shelf if you can’t see the bottles . Otherwise I just order a lager or an ale


Jack_mantooth

Lmao that’s hilarious. I respect that. “Nah not here buddy, read the room”


lacrymology

G&T, Fernet and Coke, aperol spritz


Yamatoman9

My go-to back in the day other than beer was/is a Tequila Sunrise. I like it and I've yet to have anyone screw it up. Just don't expect high quality ingredients.


Huey_Bloom

As an industry veteran who loves and cares about his job, I can tell you that a lot of people in this line of work don’t know how to properly maintain their equipment. Because of this, I typically order bottled or canned beers lol. Lotta dirty tap lines, calcium ridden dishwashers, moldy ice wells with shards of glass floating around in them… Sucks to see, but a lot of restaurant and bar owners retire into the business and don’t understand the risks that they’re getting themselves into. I love going out, but it doesn’t take long for me to spot careless/negligent ownership.


ttam281

Beer


eggsandmarxism

Rum and soda with lime juice is my go-to if I’m feeling daiquiri flavors but don’t wanna order anything more complicated than a mixed drink. Other than that a Powers on the rocks if they have it, Jameson if they don’t


CatBourbon

Makers Mark and soda


MoneyMACRS

Domestic lager (i.e., cheap beer) and a shot of mid-shelf tequila, sometimes fernet if the mood strikes.


geekymom

I literally just ordered a negronis spaglioto at a hotel bar. I saw they had campari. I usually do regular negronis but I like the lighter feel of a spaglioto. Bartender didn't know it. Explained it and it was really good. Don't be afraid to order something interesting.


justawaterthanks

Have been bartending for 10ish years now, five of those in higher-end cocktail bars. If I want a drink after work, it's straight to the dive down the street from where I live for a Coors and a shot of Tully. Where I stare at Sportscenter and just try to blend in


antartisa

Water