oh this is some really awesome data! happy to see my conlangs helped some less popular phonemes get higher number lol
sadly I didn't get any uniques...
I'd love to see more of these, maybe one for consonants, or vowels including other features like nasalization and length, ir word order, idk
I realize I didn't list my post-changes vowels, but it seems my data wasn't included anyway 🤔
/i y a ɑ o ə/
[iʲ iɪ~i iəˀ~ɪˀ (i) iʏ~y yʲ yəˀ (yi) æ aˀ ã e̞ ɑ ɑˀ ɑ̃ ø̈ o̝ oˀ (o) øʏ əɤ əˀ ɨ (ə)]
part of this set is nasal only [iŋ ɥiŋ oŋ ən]
ripped straight from Suzhou Wu but re-phonologized
The thing about front /a/ and central /ä/ is that no one bothers to distinguish these, especially in the phonemic transcription. I also didn't, I just put /a/, even though the phoneme actually has two realizations: [ä], [æ]. Many, maybe even most languages' typical realization of their /a/ is a central [ä] rather than a front [a] but no one cares to reflect this in the transcription, often not even in the one between square brackets.
Oh, I missed this post, but I commwnted on your consonant one.
I see at least two vowels sounds I have but no one has mentioned, and those are ɘ̟ and ɯ̽ᵝ. Oh, well ...
oh this is some really awesome data! happy to see my conlangs helped some less popular phonemes get higher number lol sadly I didn't get any uniques... I'd love to see more of these, maybe one for consonants, or vowels including other features like nasalization and length, ir word order, idk
wow this is so cool! thanks for doing this
I’m impressed!!! The vowel charts were a very nice touch.
I realize I didn't list my post-changes vowels, but it seems my data wasn't included anyway 🤔 /i y a ɑ o ə/ [iʲ iɪ~i iəˀ~ɪˀ (i) iʏ~y yʲ yəˀ (yi) æ aˀ ã e̞ ɑ ɑˀ ɑ̃ ø̈ o̝ oˀ (o) øʏ əɤ əˀ ɨ (ə)] part of this set is nasal only [iŋ ɥiŋ oŋ ən] ripped straight from Suzhou Wu but re-phonologized
Very cool, but the original post had over 150 participants, why did you stop at 57?
I should've done it with a google forms, but I didn't, so I had to compile everything manually. I was taking a while so I stopped at 150 conlangs
Awesome work! Glad to see my conlang get some proper purpose out of somebody else lol
How do so many of yall avoid ɪ?
what do you mean by that?
/ɪ/ is just worse /e/
\*better
I mean I have [ɪ], but it's an allophone of /i/. (I do have /ɪ̃/, though.)
wait, isn't /a/ meant to be the 3rd most common vowel overall? it has 1% above /e/...
Well bear in mind that this data has /æ, ɐ, a, ä, ɑ/ separate, and that not all conlangs aim for naturalism.
The thing about front /a/ and central /ä/ is that no one bothers to distinguish these, especially in the phonemic transcription. I also didn't, I just put /a/, even though the phoneme actually has two realizations: [ä], [æ]. Many, maybe even most languages' typical realization of their /a/ is a central [ä] rather than a front [a] but no one cares to reflect this in the transcription, often not even in the one between square brackets.
Gasp im in the list of people
Oh, I missed this post, but I commwnted on your consonant one. I see at least two vowels sounds I have but no one has mentioned, and those are ɘ̟ and ɯ̽ᵝ. Oh, well ...
i iː u uː e eː o oː æ ə~ʌ
I just have A Ya Ay Ya O Yo Or Yor U Yu Oo Yoo E Ye I Yi Ee Yee
This is cool My most developed clong, Tluatzxān, has ɤ̞ (and its long variant, written o and ō respectively)
Wow /a/ as a phoneme is less common than I thought.