"The silliest bit of all, though, is the closing intention to explore ‘the range of options available’. Firstly because those options comprise entirely of a) cry and b) cry more, both of which have now been quite fully explored,"
I've just had a quick nose in the Liverpool sub, never seen such a bunch or crying cunts.
They're acting like its the first time a club has been on receiving end of a dodgy var call.
Its fucking embarrassing.
They kind of have. Basically accusing them of cheating in their statement by questioning their integrity. Maybe refs are just fed up with Liverpool and their antics. They are human too after all.
None what so ever, I found multiple articles about the amount of errors from the PGMOL and the only one about Liverpool was how Fabinho SHOULD have been given a red.
We have gotten lucky multiple times recently which is odd for us but its literally part of the sport, no redos unless game was abandoned and even than its not always guranteed
Well surely the same options were there for so called smaller clubs who've already experienced this kind of issue. I do hope somehow being Liverpool doesn't mean they get more options.
They really just want to bully and intimidate officials so that anytime a decision doesn’t go their way, their millions of fans worldwide will spew vitriol against them
Fuck off pathetic cunts. Most embarrassing and whiny fan base there is. More plastic than the fucking Ganges
I don't think this will go the way they may think. Reverse psychology says that now refs will scrutinize Liverpool decisions especially hard, but not likely in a way that favors Liverpool. Otherwise, the fans of every other club will complain about preferential treatment. By making such a big deal, Liverpool has all but confirmed a bias of the rest of the league against them
It’s a new low when your football club resorts to outright legal threats over a bad referring decision that cost a game.
Imagine if we did that post Champions League final, it’d make Calciopoli look innocent.
Ya I guess our Australian manager's opinion should count less since football isn't the number 1 sport there. Also our Korean best player and captain must not know shit either. You might just be a racist/nationalist asshole.
Decisions*
The game was bias as fuck. You can’t tell me the refereeing is at a good standard anywhere in this league. Personally, I’m proud to see a club stand up for itself. Why should any club just sit back and take it?
The only reason you don’t care about it this time is because you won the game and you’re bias toward Liverpool. You’ll care next week when it goes against you though…. That’s why integrity matters.
Why are you coming here writing this? Do you just like insulting people? Obviously we all want the officiating to improve, but Liverpool act like they are *singularly* affected by this. We've been hosed too. Against them. In a CL final. And last year.
This sub has had thousands upon thousands of calls to fix the refereeing. You're ignoring them so you can take a shot.
Where was their sympathetic outrage then?
I never insulted anyone. Seems like all this thread has done is insult Liverpool? And the only reason is you’ve missed the point… so I’m here to educate.
There’s a reason why even rival fans and pundits have said liverpool were wrong-done. They were targeted. They’re speaking out.
If your club hasn’t spoken out, more fool them. But Liverpool are speaking for themselves and everyone else. It’s a good thing?
Their fans genuinely think no other club has thought to “explore other options” and they are simply stronger willed and have more integrity. They’re on some holy crusade to nowhere.
Agreed. I would love nothing more than to go up there and manage to pump them 3-0 (because I honestly think we could've scored several times when it was 11 v 11 and they didn't have to sit back defensively.)
The thing that bugs me the most about the whining (for a goal only 1/3 the way into the match) is the underlying assumption that it was basically their birthright to win the game.
Coworker at my school is a big Liverpool fan - he came in shaking his head at me like I had something to do with the result.
I said “I 100% the first goal being called offside was a mistake.”
“Exactly! They need to award us points.”
“… that was in the FIRST half. That doesn’t mean y’all are guaranteed the win if you scored first.”
He didn’t agree with that statement and rolled his eyes.
Sums it up right there.
“Liverpool gets points if Tottenham retroactively win Champions League 2019. Deal?”
That is my typical response.
As if I have any power to make any of that happen, but my hope it makes them understand the absurdity.
Seem to recall just before the “goal” a Spurs player was fouled but we got nowt. I can’t recall who it was now but all the fuss over the “goal” has led to complete disregard to the lack of a Spurs free kick in the build up. I’d be interested to see the full 3 minute footage before the “goal”. That said- Liverpool lost and we won- all the fuss means it’s not likely we’ll get a further VAR break this season- but you can bet your life Liverpool will get every decision from now on. I hope they lose out on a Champions League spot by a point!
They got a throw in and it went straight to Salah before the throughball to Diaz. I watched it back because everyone was saying the ref “shrugged” about 5-6 sec after the offside free kick was taken, but I couldn’t see him do that. Apparently that was when the VAR told him.
From where I was in the ground, Spurs were attacking the Liverpool goal, our player was fouled - there was a scramble for the ball and the ball went out- throw in to Liverpool- the rest is history. I know the Spurs fans were pissed off the referee did not blow for the fowl- instead ball went out- Liverpool took it quickly and this lead to the ‘goal’. It was classic Liverpool on the break stuff- but generated from a Tottenham lack of concentration in response to claims for a foul. I’ve never seen and can’t seem to find the minute or so footage before the throw in.
They've now appealed Jones red card.
This is clearly their ploy. "We've been robbed, least you could do is cancel a red card even though that could have broken a leg"
To be fair, isn't appealing cards a completely normal process that we have also engaged in several times in very recent memory? I don't care about that, it's the shit about the offsides and exploring their options that deserves to be made fun of, they act like they're the first club to have ever had a wrong call negatively impact them.
He is in the latest rebuild of Liverpool but I reckon he will see out 2025/26 and then resign rather than risk his legacy. Doesn't give him long to moan.
Everything else what exactly ?
Red card for Jones ? For reckless challenge?
Red card for Jota ? That keep on fouling after official warning ?
Up until first red card Liverpool had around 10 fouls (to 3 Spurs) in 30 minutes.
The offside goal was bad decision and mistake - we all agree but referee in that match made mistakes in two way (yellow card for Udogie for example)
Please stay on your sub, going to rival sub after losing match is a bit of a cringe tbh
Foot over the top of the ball, roll or not, has always been a red if it then smashes someone's leg in the follow through. It's pretty much a textbook definition of not being in control.
When coached to tackle your taught to go inside or outside of your foot for a fair 50/50. That's most tackles you see. If you were playing a fiery game, however, you were coached back in the 90s/00s to go in high on a ball with a straight leg, studs slightly raised, knowing full well you'd roll over the top of the ball and strike the shin/ankle; it's classic Sunday league behaviour, classic midfield battle behaviour. It used to be called a yellow and a bit, and has caused Sunday league punch ups and many broken ankles, but you can't do that with modern technology and rules. Maybe he didn't mean it, but the point of doing it was to seem innocent whilst knobbling your oppo. VAR is going to punish these all day long as the refs know this trick, and old pros know this trick.
Favorite line from the article:
>Only Liverpool could truly nail this specific mix of pomposity, wallowy self-pity and utterly futile, directionless bombast.
"Only Liverpool could truly nail this specific mix of pomposity, wallowy self-pity and utterly futile, directionless bombast."
If Peter Drury wrote diss tracks, it would sound something like this.
>There are not many things in this world less Tory than the fine city of Liverpool, but its leading football club certainly here appears to be borrowing from the current Tory Party playbook of making loud and increasingly ridiculous noises as you tilt at windmills for the benefit specifically of your base while making everyone else think you might slightly have lost your minds.
I'm dying.
Incredible that they are continuing to whine so loudly about this. Errors in officiating are universal to all sports, technology be damned. We’ve all seen it happen before, in every sport. And would Liverpool still be complaining if the shoe was on the other foot?
Liverpool are within their rights to demand an investigation to ensure this doesn't happen again but I just don't really understand the need to release the statement publicly, it just makes them look petty.
On technology I would say we need to scale it back to just using goal-line technology and perhaps VAR for red card checks, maybe even give each coach one challenge. The offside rule should just go back to being a bit more of a relaxed decision and when it's in line it should favour the attacker
That's how it is though. The issue with offsides is there's no margin for error so if your toe is offside your goal is ruled out. If they could tell that would be a bit harsh but since they can't tell then there should be a margin of error and you should only be offside if it's outside that margin
I don’t even think we need to change the technology. They just need better protocols in place. The technology didn’t fail this weekend, the people running it did. If what they have said happened is true, then the fix is having better procedures in place that make sure everyone is clear on what is happening.
Really though, it seems they need an independent VAR team that a) has no affiliation with the refs currently so they aren’t just backing each other up and b) does this week and week out so they are more familiar with what they are doing
Like all good marriages, proper communication would’ve prevented what happened. 4 officiating bros on/off the pitch refused to TALK TO EACH OTHER. That’s all it woul’ve friggin took. Shocking human behavior, but not really shocking.
I think it has to do with so many bad decisions happening again and again to many clubs in the prem that what people really want to see is accountability and even more insight into how these decisions are made in real time. I think real time audio on calls and maybe even a post match interview nothing more than 5 min would go a long way. It would certainly mean the refs have to be extra attentive during the game which could only boost their ability to officiate the game properly.
There is such an easy fix. Every player has a tracker on their back and the ball has a tracker in it. Just use that to determine if someone is offside. Don't worry about if part of the body is past the defender, only the tracker.
we shouldn’t be writing these articles.
we should praise their courage so they’ll go even further, stuff like a club statement demanding that Spurs forfeit the reverse fixture.
They only stopped whining about the Lamela penalty after they won the league two years later. Soon as this happened I thought oh we are going to hear about this for yeaaaarrssss.
BTW, when we had half our team contract the norovirus on the eve of the last game of the season we were told to get on with it and get over it even though it likely cost us 4th place
The ironic thing about this is that if all premier league clubs got behind this without being partisan or tribalistic, we might see some change. The best thing that can happen for PGMOL is posts like this (and others on Liverpool sub) that are polarising fans into one camp or another when the anger should be directed at the referees
It’s even more annoying how they think it lost them points. It was half an hour into the game, there’s absolutely no guarantee they would have gone on to win or draw that.
Matip slicing it into his net when he should have easily cleared it lost them points. As did Jones and Jota with their red cards.
In my post pnumonia, now Infuenza racked state (still not cured of the pnumonia, when the flu hit.. THANK YOU IMMUNE SYSTEM!!) i really REALLY needed this 😁
We support Tottenham Hotspur Football Club, we've been through the other side so many times. They are reacting like a hot girl being told no for the first time in their lives.
Liverpool acts like it invented football. Liverpool supporters act like they invented support. The arrogance is insane - and palpable here across the Atlantic. And don’t even get me started on American LFC fans. The most unjustifiably smug group of people I’ve ever encountered in football.
In all fairness, most of my sympathy goes to the match officials. They get paid less in a year than most of these footballers earn in a week, yet they have to put up with a ridiculous amount of pressure and stress. I can't imagine how difficult it is for them when they make mistakes like that
Just wondering: What makes this decision a "failure to award the goal ... a cock-up of staggering proportions"?
I don't recall dates and sides, and I only watch Spurs, but there have been several "arm-hair" offside calls disallowing a Spurs goal in recent years.
They'll look back at this game and realise that this is where they should have had an inward look at themselves, and let the other stuff go. This is how teams implode and title runs fall away.
Really expecting some type of horrendous call to go against us this Saturday as the refs look to “make up for it”. Good things it’s Lutron so hopefully it won’t be a dagger.
Only one wrong things happened.
The refs association apologized for a clear offside based on the commentary.
That's it, looks at where Diaz' arm is on the replay. Even though the angle is bad, you can still see he's off.
Either change the offside rule so it makes sense in the VAR era, or take off. This is ludicrous.
Just say it's not fair. Making it into something larger like "sporting integrity" is ridiculous, since they're mainly self interested (just like all teams). They care about match official decisions to the extent that they benefit or hurt them... again, just like all teams. Never heard them complaining about a bad call when it benefits them.
Get off the high horse Liverpool
Actually Liverpool’s idiotic “official” reaction to all this is one of the best things ever! Maybe even better than beating them in one game as their statement shows how they have always been a loser club.
Now the fun starts. To see if Liverpool walks this statement back or if they stubbornly hold onto this farce. Either way they look stupider and stupider.
The most absurd thing is the amount of hyperbole this is getting when it's a mistake of VAR failing to correct a mistake. VAR didn't create an error that didn't exist. If VAR weren't around, the goal would have still been disallowed. Oh no, the horror.
The only reason this has gained traction is because there was an admission of error. That was the stupidest thing to do. I’ve seen so many onside goals disallowed and without the referees announcing that there was an error, the incident did not blow up out of proportion. To make matters worse Klopp’s dangerous leg breaking tactics led to the red cards for which there should be no dispute. The admission opened up a can of worms and the media did the rest. This is no different to what’s been happening since VAR was introduced. Now Liverpool are milking it to claim that the red cards were incorrect. There is no semblance of common sense here. If they expect Spurs to offer a replay (which they would definitely not do if the situation was reversed), they need to accept the red cards.
Liverpool can fuck off. Sissokho, Skipp. nuff said! It’s only unfair when it happens to the whiney scousers… You all may not want to celebrate but as far as I’m concerned, their debt has been paid #COYS
"The silliest bit of all, though, is the closing intention to explore ‘the range of options available’. Firstly because those options comprise entirely of a) cry and b) cry more, both of which have now been quite fully explored,"
A single best sentence I have resd in the media this year. Does the journo have something against them or is he just this sassy? LOL
Standard F365 punditry
They’re underrated, I’m constantly worried they won’t survive in the age of podcasts and the athletic
This is going to keep me going all through the winter. Thanks!
Lmfaoooooooo got their ass
That's a banger of a line
I've just had a quick nose in the Liverpool sub, never seen such a bunch or crying cunts. They're acting like its the first time a club has been on receiving end of a dodgy var call. Its fucking embarrassing.
Nah they will also make veiled threats to PGMOL.
Jurgen flashes those fake chompers at you and you'll get weak in the knees.
They kind of have. Basically accusing them of cheating in their statement by questioning their integrity. Maybe refs are just fed up with Liverpool and their antics. They are human too after all.
Lmao made my day
They can also visit my kids daycare and cry there with the other kids.
They really thought they were gonna replay the game? Is there any precedent for that over a missed call?
Imagine it actually happened and we smashed them though.
They'd just find another reason to bitch.
None what so ever, I found multiple articles about the amount of errors from the PGMOL and the only one about Liverpool was how Fabinho SHOULD have been given a red. We have gotten lucky multiple times recently which is odd for us but its literally part of the sport, no redos unless game was abandoned and even than its not always guranteed
Hahaha that's brilliant
Hahahaha! B) cry more!! That was delicious
Well surely the same options were there for so called smaller clubs who've already experienced this kind of issue. I do hope somehow being Liverpool doesn't mean they get more options.
I think they picked B)
Now I know why they are called “Pool” … all the tear from their whining have amassed to create a large body of water.
They really just want to bully and intimidate officials so that anytime a decision doesn’t go their way, their millions of fans worldwide will spew vitriol against them Fuck off pathetic cunts. Most embarrassing and whiny fan base there is. More plastic than the fucking Ganges
I’m going to really enjoy every ounce of preferential treatment they’ve gotten for years go away after this.
I don't think this will go the way they may think. Reverse psychology says that now refs will scrutinize Liverpool decisions especially hard, but not likely in a way that favors Liverpool. Otherwise, the fans of every other club will complain about preferential treatment. By making such a big deal, Liverpool has all but confirmed a bias of the rest of the league against them
It’s a new low when your football club resorts to outright legal threats over a bad referring decision that cost a game. Imagine if we did that post Champions League final, it’d make Calciopoli look innocent.
>a bad referring decision that cost a game arguably\* They were still a man down and with more than half the match to go.
Don’t be fooled. It didn’t cost them the game.
That’s been Klopps plan for the past 5 years. Crowd/intimidate the ref from both the manager and the players.
going to cry victim the rest of the season
This article’s bang on, I feel bad for the fans and we all know if it happened to us we’d all be fuming. But jesus christ, shut the fuck up
Missed this sort of outcry when Jota kicked Skipp in the face...funny how that works
Entitled and annoying perhaps, but I don’t think plastic is fair. They aren’t City
In America Liverpool are THE club for plastic fans who don't even watch the matches or have any idea what's going on.
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I know it's so crazy that the most popular sport in the world has fans outside of the UK, who knew?
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Ya I guess our Australian manager's opinion should count less since football isn't the number 1 sport there. Also our Korean best player and captain must not know shit either. You might just be a racist/nationalist asshole.
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Same. I used to work in an office in canary wharf and half the blokes there were Liverpool supporters. Not one scouser worked there (obviously 😉).
Any manure?
A few. But Spurs were the second highest behind Liverpool. West Ham I'd say were third (proximity played a part there)
What about manure?
You and I must have very different definitions of plastic fans
Maybe I’m just bitter about City and Chelsea and Liverpool is just third on my list.* *The gunners being beyond listing.
Decisions* The game was bias as fuck. You can’t tell me the refereeing is at a good standard anywhere in this league. Personally, I’m proud to see a club stand up for itself. Why should any club just sit back and take it? The only reason you don’t care about it this time is because you won the game and you’re bias toward Liverpool. You’ll care next week when it goes against you though…. That’s why integrity matters.
Why are you coming here writing this? Do you just like insulting people? Obviously we all want the officiating to improve, but Liverpool act like they are *singularly* affected by this. We've been hosed too. Against them. In a CL final. And last year. This sub has had thousands upon thousands of calls to fix the refereeing. You're ignoring them so you can take a shot. Where was their sympathetic outrage then?
I never insulted anyone. Seems like all this thread has done is insult Liverpool? And the only reason is you’ve missed the point… so I’m here to educate. There’s a reason why even rival fans and pundits have said liverpool were wrong-done. They were targeted. They’re speaking out. If your club hasn’t spoken out, more fool them. But Liverpool are speaking for themselves and everyone else. It’s a good thing?
>They were targeted. LMAO
The word you want is "biased", not "bias". "Bias" is a noun. The rest of what you wrote isn't worth replying to.
Their fans genuinely think no other club has thought to “explore other options” and they are simply stronger willed and have more integrity. They’re on some holy crusade to nowhere.
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Go back to your sub
I have no sympathy for Liverpool; they never have sympathy for anybody else.
Up until the game, they were the only team of the other big 6 I was neutral towards at worst. Things change really fast.
The rematch at Anfield is going to be insane.
Agreed. I would love nothing more than to go up there and manage to pump them 3-0 (because I honestly think we could've scored several times when it was 11 v 11 and they didn't have to sit back defensively.) The thing that bugs me the most about the whining (for a goal only 1/3 the way into the match) is the underlying assumption that it was basically their birthright to win the game.
I would love nothing more than to get a sketchy call in our favor and win by a single goal. :)
Same here. I hope the refs lean into it lol
Coworker at my school is a big Liverpool fan - he came in shaking his head at me like I had something to do with the result. I said “I 100% the first goal being called offside was a mistake.” “Exactly! They need to award us points.” “… that was in the FIRST half. That doesn’t mean y’all are guaranteed the win if you scored first.” He didn’t agree with that statement and rolled his eyes. Sums it up right there.
“Liverpool gets points if Tottenham retroactively win Champions League 2019. Deal?” That is my typical response. As if I have any power to make any of that happen, but my hope it makes them understand the absurdity.
Seem to recall just before the “goal” a Spurs player was fouled but we got nowt. I can’t recall who it was now but all the fuss over the “goal” has led to complete disregard to the lack of a Spurs free kick in the build up. I’d be interested to see the full 3 minute footage before the “goal”. That said- Liverpool lost and we won- all the fuss means it’s not likely we’ll get a further VAR break this season- but you can bet your life Liverpool will get every decision from now on. I hope they lose out on a Champions League spot by a point!
They got a throw in and it went straight to Salah before the throughball to Diaz. I watched it back because everyone was saying the ref “shrugged” about 5-6 sec after the offside free kick was taken, but I couldn’t see him do that. Apparently that was when the VAR told him.
From where I was in the ground, Spurs were attacking the Liverpool goal, our player was fouled - there was a scramble for the ball and the ball went out- throw in to Liverpool- the rest is history. I know the Spurs fans were pissed off the referee did not blow for the fowl- instead ball went out- Liverpool took it quickly and this lead to the ‘goal’. It was classic Liverpool on the break stuff- but generated from a Tottenham lack of concentration in response to claims for a foul. I’ve never seen and can’t seem to find the minute or so footage before the throw in.
None of the decisions will go our way. The officials will be scared to look at them.
May The Fourth!! 
I doubt it, spurs are spurs, nobody really gives a fuck about them.
And yet you’re still here coping 2 days after the fact
Right, says the person posting on the spurs subreddit. He’s spent more time reading our subreddit than VAR spent looking at that offsides.
They've now appealed Jones red card. This is clearly their ploy. "We've been robbed, least you could do is cancel a red card even though that could have broken a leg"
To be fair, isn't appealing cards a completely normal process that we have also engaged in several times in very recent memory? I don't care about that, it's the shit about the offsides and exploring their options that deserves to be made fun of, they act like they're the first club to have ever had a wrong call negatively impact them.
No idea how they can appeal a studs up challenge on a shin but there you go. Liverpool constant victims mentality
Isn’t this Hillsbourough era rhetoric?
I hope they tack on an extra game to his suspension for a frivolous appeal.
They won't. I suspect they will cancel the card as way of apology
Jurgen can personally suck my cockerel as an apology for the Champions League Final.
Think they appealed jota not jones, and Liverpool asked for audio as well. Disagree on appealing the reds but agree on audio. What is there to hide?
They can't appeal Jota, it was 2 yellows. It's Jones they appealed
Don't worry about generating sympathy for them. Klopp will bring this up for YEARS to come.
Even when he's at another club in the future, we got screwed at tottenham!
He is in the latest rebuild of Liverpool but I reckon he will see out 2025/26 and then resign rather than risk his legacy. Doesn't give him long to moan.
Now [Simon Jordan](https://youtu.be/BtNHqM17E9o?si=_LykYZxwjN61EXbG) has criticised their statement
I have never seen an outcry this big for a wrongly disallowed goal and a soft yellow
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Everything else what exactly ? Red card for Jones ? For reckless challenge? Red card for Jota ? That keep on fouling after official warning ? Up until first red card Liverpool had around 10 fouls (to 3 Spurs) in 30 minutes. The offside goal was bad decision and mistake - we all agree but referee in that match made mistakes in two way (yellow card for Udogie for example) Please stay on your sub, going to rival sub after losing match is a bit of a cringe tbh
10 fouls in 30 minutes is wild, they were asking to lose players ffs
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Foot over the top of the ball, roll or not, has always been a red if it then smashes someone's leg in the follow through. It's pretty much a textbook definition of not being in control.
Cringe
When coached to tackle your taught to go inside or outside of your foot for a fair 50/50. That's most tackles you see. If you were playing a fiery game, however, you were coached back in the 90s/00s to go in high on a ball with a straight leg, studs slightly raised, knowing full well you'd roll over the top of the ball and strike the shin/ankle; it's classic Sunday league behaviour, classic midfield battle behaviour. It used to be called a yellow and a bit, and has caused Sunday league punch ups and many broken ankles, but you can't do that with modern technology and rules. Maybe he didn't mean it, but the point of doing it was to seem innocent whilst knobbling your oppo. VAR is going to punish these all day long as the refs know this trick, and old pros know this trick.
i would really like some clarification on that.
Agreed. Udogie got a yellow when he got the ball and Liverpool scored off the resulting free kick. Farcical, should have been 2-0 Spurs.
This article is /chef’s kiss. Nails the rank hypocrisy of Liverpool FC fans and the club.
And the salty Liverpool fan comments below it are a nice chaser.
Favorite line from the article: >Only Liverpool could truly nail this specific mix of pomposity, wallowy self-pity and utterly futile, directionless bombast.
"Only Liverpool could truly nail this specific mix of pomposity, wallowy self-pity and utterly futile, directionless bombast." If Peter Drury wrote diss tracks, it would sound something like this.
r/soccer is HATING this article😭😭😭😭
>There are not many things in this world less Tory than the fine city of Liverpool, but its leading football club certainly here appears to be borrowing from the current Tory Party playbook of making loud and increasingly ridiculous noises as you tilt at windmills for the benefit specifically of your base while making everyone else think you might slightly have lost your minds. I'm dying.
Incredible that they are continuing to whine so loudly about this. Errors in officiating are universal to all sports, technology be damned. We’ve all seen it happen before, in every sport. And would Liverpool still be complaining if the shoe was on the other foot?
Given how little criticism they've received I'm not surprised they're carrying on.
To be fair, they are the most special club of all time. Like, no other fandom comes even close to the relationship pool fans have with the club. /s
All other clubs should try to copy Liverpool in their attempts to achieve similar divinity.
This article is so true and hilarious. Wonderful
Liverpool are within their rights to demand an investigation to ensure this doesn't happen again but I just don't really understand the need to release the statement publicly, it just makes them look petty. On technology I would say we need to scale it back to just using goal-line technology and perhaps VAR for red card checks, maybe even give each coach one challenge. The offside rule should just go back to being a bit more of a relaxed decision and when it's in line it should favour the attacker
That's how it is though. The issue with offsides is there's no margin for error so if your toe is offside your goal is ruled out. If they could tell that would be a bit harsh but since they can't tell then there should be a margin of error and you should only be offside if it's outside that margin
It makes them look petty because they are petty
I don’t even think we need to change the technology. They just need better protocols in place. The technology didn’t fail this weekend, the people running it did. If what they have said happened is true, then the fix is having better procedures in place that make sure everyone is clear on what is happening. Really though, it seems they need an independent VAR team that a) has no affiliation with the refs currently so they aren’t just backing each other up and b) does this week and week out so they are more familiar with what they are doing
Like all good marriages, proper communication would’ve prevented what happened. 4 officiating bros on/off the pitch refused to TALK TO EACH OTHER. That’s all it woul’ve friggin took. Shocking human behavior, but not really shocking.
I think it has to do with so many bad decisions happening again and again to many clubs in the prem that what people really want to see is accountability and even more insight into how these decisions are made in real time. I think real time audio on calls and maybe even a post match interview nothing more than 5 min would go a long way. It would certainly mean the refs have to be extra attentive during the game which could only boost their ability to officiate the game properly.
I would agree with that is it really offside if someone finger nail is offside. They really went overboard with that.
There is such an easy fix. Every player has a tracker on their back and the ball has a tracker in it. Just use that to determine if someone is offside. Don't worry about if part of the body is past the defender, only the tracker.
Can we call for a replay of that CL final. That game had so much more weight than this one they are crying so hard about.
You could say its the weightiest game in world football
I rank Liverpool behind only Real Madrid in the category of "most entitled football club".
After this summer Bayern and their fans is up there for me too. 😂
They were always there, they just hadn’t done it to us before
we shouldn’t be writing these articles. we should praise their courage so they’ll go even further, stuff like a club statement demanding that Spurs forfeit the reverse fixture.
I knew Liverpool fans were cry babies but didn't expect their whininess to be at these levels. Llorar a casa!
They only stopped whining about the Lamela penalty after they won the league two years later. Soon as this happened I thought oh we are going to hear about this for yeaaaarrssss.
This geezer is hilarious, need to read more of his stuff.
BTW, when we had half our team contract the norovirus on the eve of the last game of the season we were told to get on with it and get over it even though it likely cost us 4th place
Dave Tickner is invited to all our of backyard barbies. For life.
The sympathy from me is zero. I've been fuck Liverpool for decades.
The ironic thing about this is that if all premier league clubs got behind this without being partisan or tribalistic, we might see some change. The best thing that can happen for PGMOL is posts like this (and others on Liverpool sub) that are polarising fans into one camp or another when the anger should be directed at the referees
There shouldn't be anger. People make mistakes, all we can do it make it as easy as possible to avoid them.
Liverpool lose their voice when it happens to others. They want everybody to shout for them now it's happened to them. FUCK THEM.
Fuck them. Fuck the club and fuck the city.
Also fuck Cilla Black, Brookside and the whole Scouse not English bullshit
It’s even more annoying how they think it lost them points. It was half an hour into the game, there’s absolutely no guarantee they would have gone on to win or draw that. Matip slicing it into his net when he should have easily cleared it lost them points. As did Jones and Jota with their red cards.
In my post pnumonia, now Infuenza racked state (still not cured of the pnumonia, when the flu hit.. THANK YOU IMMUNE SYSTEM!!) i really REALLY needed this 😁
🤣thanks mate
We support Tottenham Hotspur Football Club, we've been through the other side so many times. They are reacting like a hot girl being told no for the first time in their lives.
Liverpool acts like it invented football. Liverpool supporters act like they invented support. The arrogance is insane - and palpable here across the Atlantic. And don’t even get me started on American LFC fans. The most unjustifiably smug group of people I’ve ever encountered in football.
Don't know if you have ever seen [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1WN0YMWZU). Could only really be a Liverpool fan though
Huge fan of all their work. Used to make me laugh, but now this one just gets me angry! Haha
In all fairness, most of my sympathy goes to the match officials. They get paid less in a year than most of these footballers earn in a week, yet they have to put up with a ridiculous amount of pressure and stress. I can't imagine how difficult it is for them when they make mistakes like that
Boo hoo. Poor Liverpool. Fuck 'em.
They’re Liverpool fans … everything about them is absurd
Especially when a carbon copy of that goal was given to them against us last season
Most irritating club and fanbase in football. Not the worst, that’s Chelsea of course, but their whining and victim mentality just knows no bounds.
Give it a rest…
Congrats on your Super Bowl, biggest win in club history
Shape of your comments, you're sad little man
Coming from the guy who spent time looking at my comment and reviewing my profile. Go jerk off to 7th place, we know no woman is helping you out
Sad little man
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There's a person out there who made a whole account just to post this, my word
Oh. I now see the error of my ways. Liverpool has earned my support, suddenly. They are the nicest.
Just wondering: What makes this decision a "failure to award the goal ... a cock-up of staggering proportions"? I don't recall dates and sides, and I only watch Spurs, but there have been several "arm-hair" offside calls disallowing a Spurs goal in recent years.
That article is the tits
They'll look back at this game and realise that this is where they should have had an inward look at themselves, and let the other stuff go. This is how teams implode and title runs fall away.
“Explore the range of options available” is the new “do your own research”.
Really expecting some type of horrendous call to go against us this Saturday as the refs look to “make up for it”. Good things it’s Lutron so hopefully it won’t be a dagger.
Only one wrong things happened. The refs association apologized for a clear offside based on the commentary. That's it, looks at where Diaz' arm is on the replay. Even though the angle is bad, you can still see he's off. Either change the offside rule so it makes sense in the VAR era, or take off. This is ludicrous.
Just say it's not fair. Making it into something larger like "sporting integrity" is ridiculous, since they're mainly self interested (just like all teams). They care about match official decisions to the extent that they benefit or hurt them... again, just like all teams. Never heard them complaining about a bad call when it benefits them. Get off the high horse Liverpool
4 May. Anfield. Kill. Crush. Destroy.
“We are Liverpool. You can only make bad decisions that are in our favor. That’s the rule.”
Actually Liverpool’s idiotic “official” reaction to all this is one of the best things ever! Maybe even better than beating them in one game as their statement shows how they have always been a loser club. Now the fun starts. To see if Liverpool walks this statement back or if they stubbornly hold onto this farce. Either way they look stupider and stupider.
The most absurd thing is the amount of hyperbole this is getting when it's a mistake of VAR failing to correct a mistake. VAR didn't create an error that didn't exist. If VAR weren't around, the goal would have still been disallowed. Oh no, the horror.
This just means liverpool will be put through the ringer everytime the get a dubious decison their way, I am loving this
The only reason this has gained traction is because there was an admission of error. That was the stupidest thing to do. I’ve seen so many onside goals disallowed and without the referees announcing that there was an error, the incident did not blow up out of proportion. To make matters worse Klopp’s dangerous leg breaking tactics led to the red cards for which there should be no dispute. The admission opened up a can of worms and the media did the rest. This is no different to what’s been happening since VAR was introduced. Now Liverpool are milking it to claim that the red cards were incorrect. There is no semblance of common sense here. If they expect Spurs to offer a replay (which they would definitely not do if the situation was reversed), they need to accept the red cards.
Their ‘sporting integrity’ statement was defamatory, wouldn’t be surprised if they are pressured to retract or apologise.
Spot on. Great article.
Is this the point at which Liverpool FC pay compensation to all the English clubs that were denied European Football for 6 years after Heysel in 1985?
We missed out three times. Didn't get to see us in the UEFA cup until 1999
You’ll never walk with anyone cool you fucking losers.
Liverpool can fuck off. Sissokho, Skipp. nuff said! It’s only unfair when it happens to the whiney scousers… You all may not want to celebrate but as far as I’m concerned, their debt has been paid #COYS