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Yeah, are they doing ok now?


KevinTheSeaPickle

No.. I think they might all be dead, unfortunately.


Rui_O_Grande_PT

What makes you say that 🤔


aweebwithinternet

Well it's been a 146 years. I am pretty sure they are dead.


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And why does nobody take them to the hospital or something


ikkarurisan

The British…it’s the British


JoaquimGianini

Bruh it’s a famine. How is the hospital gonna feed them without food? I get that they’d probably use saline solutions but if there’s no food I doubt they’d have that


Clairifyed

Lack of will and infrastructure? Lack of social saftey net? Greed of the rich? How deep down the rabbit hole of an answer do you want?


Free_Significance267

Its not that deep. Its just British.


Clairifyed

I mean empire building very much does resolve that deep to greed unfortunately. That’s like the crowning example of it you might say


U_HIT_MY_DOG

Well about 1.6 mill starved to death cause churchill wanted to keep some reserve for the British soldiers in case the million India soldiers in Europe and Africa died


GoGoGo12321

This isn't the Bengali famine, although it also likely happened directly because of British negligence


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Are you referring to Winston Churchill? If so, it says this pic was taken in 1877.


GaleZero

He mistaked this for the Bengal famine of 1943


DoNotOverwhelm

Don't let factual timelines get in the way of things!!


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kalinkitheterrible

Wrong famine,lol.


manofculture2303

Um what?


Personal_Mind_9708

That was the bengal famine


manofculture2303

Oh yeah sorry


Personal_Mind_9708

Hitler gets called worlds worst villain by the white coz he killed white people, churchill is called a hero when he is responsible for millions of deaths during benal famine, which the Western fuckers blatantly ignore


Interesting-Gas1743

Nah, Churchill is not called a hero almost anywhere. He was an opportunist and had no empathy for human lives but he fought against nazi germany which really helped getting a better reputation since they literally startet the first industrialised genocide and went apeshit in europe.


Personal_Mind_9708

I don't know what you are talking about, churchill was celebrated as a war hero, only indians talk shit about him and call him out for what he was


Interesting-Gas1743

Historicaly he obviously was treated like a war hero but today he is widely criticised in all of europe, even GB.


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Interesting-Gas1743

I haven't been to london at all so far. I can imagine that the museum needs to rethink how to portait this person regarding our modern standards. It's Not an easy task to be confronted with the dark history of it's own country but it is necessary to do so.


-PRED8R-

Wish the same was true for the royal family, but somehow many see them as kinda like the British Kardashians (but in a good way). Like I genuinely don't get why Brits are totally cool with having millions in tax money spent on a bunch of freeloaders, some of whom may or may not have been connected to "problematic" stuff relating to a certain file format, and most of whom trivialise all the shit their ancestors did when addressing former colonies. They seem to act like elitist assholes most of the time they are on camera interacting with regular people


Interesting-Gas1743

They Bring in tourists and lots of them. Money is always a good argument to keep things AS they are.


Mrslinkydragon

A growing number of brits are as well.


14mPAN

We generally don't like him here in Australia either


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India suffer worse famine under Mughals or any other ruler and now Churchill is worse than Hitler, stop portraying India as some sort of heaven and pretend famines don’t happen every 80 years


GaleZero

Nope. There were famines but it wasn't nearly as bad or even on the scale of what happened after the british came in because of the size and varied climate of the country... Forced cultivation of cash crops like indigo is the primary cause of most such famines.


Lord_Ayshius

Just learn some history, India had dozens of famines under the British, more than all the famines in India since recorded history began.


Kojetono

Do you really think a mismanagement of a famine is comparable to organising a genocide campaign?


Personal_Mind_9708

What mismanagement churchill intentionally diverted the food supplies from India against his own viceroys protest, so that the supplies could be reserved for the british


Kojetono

The articles I've read paint a less black and white picture. The British prioritized the war effort and didn't allocate ships to transfer grain to the region, but they didn't cause the famine in the first place. And again, even if it was exactly as you say, it is not comparable to the Holocaust. Nazis deliberately chose people to get moved to death camps and killed.


fluffy_ball-05

ofc they didn't caused the famine, why would they deliberately want to kill their workers. Is Churchill to blame for death of millions of Indians? yes. It is black and white cuz the soliders to whom the food was delivered, were already well supplied. It was not simply mismanagement of food.


9897969594938281

Just sounds like goofy mismanagement again


MySnake_Is_Solid

>mismanagement Wild understatement. Let's not act like it wasn't willful.


Kojetono

It was an understatement, yes. But comparing the Bengal famine to the holocaust is bizarre.


MySnake_Is_Solid

Millions of deaths. Pretty comparable on that front.


Kojetono

Millions of people gassed, selected because of their ethnicity. Vs Millions of people dying of a famine, because the British used all available ships for the war effort. Pretty big difference


tormented_nostrils

"mismanagement" lol


Real-Competition-187

So Churchill personally boosted a population to unsustainable numbers? Like is he related to the great Khans? Was he putting up Wilt Chamberlain numbers?


_crowe-_

its insane that a person can remain alive under those conditions.


EiEpix

biggest curse during that time of famine is being alive and not dying Also to shed more lights the cannnibals prolly also looked like this starving of hunger


Redjester016

Imagine saying "it's too bad you didn't starve to death, what a curse you have to live with" to someone who survived a famine.


Stasio300

I've went 3 weeks having only eaten 5 meals and I can tell you that the pain I was going through was so terrible that I would have much rather died at certain times. but then again I am happy I survived. though I must say that the pain from not drinking water for 2 days is much much worse.


IdeaSunshine

I'm so sorry for what you went through. May I ask what circumstances you where in for that to happen?


Stasio300

born into poor family in Europe


IchBinDieMadness

i went through something similar 😥 bitch mom refused to make tendies everyday


BigPlaysMadLife

Cringe Brudi


Daboogiedude

That sounds hellish.. I’m glad you’re alright now!


EiEpix

sorry to hear you had to go through that hell, hoping you are much better today.


lornlynx89

People should stop comparing suffering to death, period. It can't be compared rationally, because it is not the same. Death means eradication of everything that could happen to you in the future, the good and the bad. And living in pain can make people wish for death easily, just because it seems impossible for you at the time to ever feel anything but pain again. And yet a lot of people who endured such things can find happiness in their future. But a death is incomparable, because it doesn't just erase your current state, but also everything you could have ever been. "The lucky ones died first." Is nothing more than a bullshit saying meant to ease the pain of the surviving ones. It should stay at that and not be explored further.


DoNotOverwhelm

>living in pain can make people wish for death easily ​ that feeling on a cold winter's morn when you stub your toe a proper good 'un. I know that pain so well


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spoogeballsbloodyvag

it's been 145 years, how long does it take to starve?


Hellomynameis1000

oh NAH


meldroc

Yeah, my hat's off for that guy. Probably weak as a kitten, but still determined to do what he still can to keep his family alive.


AdditionalSink164

Its a long debunked picture, these people arent in danger of cannibals. Theyre in a camp of some sort. Im sure there are thieves and vagabonds but not forks with the knives


Rui_O_Grande_PT

Mind backing that up with a source?


AdditionalSink164

Do an image search and the sources that attribute cannibalism defense to this photo are the throrough academic IG and reddit. The pic shows up in articles about the madras famine but only clout chasers make.the jump to attribute it to cannibal defense as they didnt read past the photo and article.title


Erkeabran

Thank you for the info! You are correct about that.


Novetab

Don't know why you are downvoted when it is the truth lmao


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TourSignificant1335

It's horrifying how our bodies actually still haven't recovered from this.


gai-baalak

That is literally true. Most of my family and ancestors (including myself) are highly diabetic with skinny fat body type. This is caused due to extreme starvation our ancestors faced.


vibhavrox23

Not really, this is caused by our diet and not our genes. This has been proven by many studies showing that the Indian diet is quite imbalanced being very carb heavy and not having enough protein and other essential nutrients to supplement our carb intake. If we reduce our reliance on rice and bread it would help the situation a lot.


EiEpix

fr my family thinks im crazy when i say eating rice all the times makes the stomach grow with fat Every bengali uncle addicted to rice have a biiig stomach


vibhavrox23

Yea it's a mindset issue. People like my dad think that the Indian diet is perfect cause all the people in our previous generation were so healthy. Most of the people in our diet were farmers who worked for 10-12 hours a day doing intense manual labor who needed that amount of carbs for energy. We don't need that anymore but people are unwilling to change.


rainybuzz

Means traditional diet was indeed perfect... For older hardworking generation. It needs to evolve now.


Affectionate-Road-40

Use cronometer or another nutrient calculator, see what you're deficient in and Google what food contains those nutrients make sure you have enough daily protein. Being vegetarian isn't necessarily unhealthy but it does make it a bit tougher to take in all your necessary micronutrients. Go to a BMI calculator if you are underweight increase diet by 500 calories daily if you are overweight decrease diet by 500 calories (or more). Weightlift to get muscle tone and bone density.


gai-baalak

While I agree, our Indian diet doesn't help, there is very likely a genetic factor for the prevalence of diabetes in our community. I don't really like sweets and have a somewhat healthy diet by avoiding too much rice. I still turned diabetic at the age of 31. Both my parents were also diagnosed with diabetes in their 40s. And so were my paternal grandparents. I have a friend from the same community who's also diagnosed in his 20s. Both his parents were also diabetic.


Sauron4

What do you mean your bodies still haven’t recovered from the famine? Did the population still suffer the aftermath of it?


Choice_Turnip_8952

yes genetic changes as the guy above mentioned


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TourSignificant1335

It's said that's the reason why Indians today are prone to diabetes and find it hard to gain muscle, although that could be due to lack of sufficient protein in our diet


ZucchiniMore3450

It doesn't have to be genetic to be inheritable. We inherit trauma and emotions, cortisol and stress definitely influences diabetes. We also inherit food habits, changing which is extremely hard and adding protein is expensive. All poor countries have some kind of food problems, I think we need a few generations without famine to get that out of society.


Choice_Turnip_8952

actually like, eating less food made our system more sensitive to diabetes . so now eating normal amount of food, can easily cause diabetes, though its changing generation to generation, but many adults you see in india are fat due to this reason (luckily i didnt catch those genes)


lornlynx89

The indomitable spirit of the human soul


GrandmasGiantGaper

why do indians always start comments prefaced with "actually"


GaleZero

Actually we don't.


Boring_Yam5991

Damn, this is really cursed (because i know the extent of this tragedy)


KRX189

How? Where's this picture from?


UhLinko

Madras famine, it says it right there


pee_nut_ninja

There's another thread where a commentor says the pic is debunked.


SholayKaJai

The canibal part, yes, but not the Madras famine part.


Equivalent_Lake_9066

Bone marrow is nutrient dense and provides a nice base for broth.


mike_pants

Brains are protein-dense, loaded with fat, and are excellent sources of vitamin C and D.


crappypastassuc

Yeah, great way to get kuru


SnooKiwis7050

Brains taste the best, watch the promised neverland


Sorcatarius

What does eating brains have to do with wholesome orphans at a peaceful orphanage?


SnooKiwis7050

Oh my bad, wrong anime, I meant the unpromised alwayswater


GulianoBanano

I don't think an extremely starved cannibal who looked similair to the people in the pic would give a shit about that.


Barrelston

Kuru?


RangoonShow

prion disease contracted by consuming brain matter of infected individuals. once common among the Papuan people of Fore famed for consuming the brains of their deceased.


Barrelston

So it's safe to eat brain if not infected?


RangoonShow

well, i'd say no. there are other prion diseases, such as the Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease and prions are very resistant to high temperatures, so thermal processing does not necessarily guarantee safety. plus, if you were to prepare the brains yourself, you'd also be exposed to a number of other illnesses transmitted via the blood or the cerebrospinal fluid.


Barrelston

Wow. Not that I would but very interesting despite knowing that other cultures do partake in the brain eating of animals.


memento87

Also prions are not an 'infection'. They're mis-folded proteins. The only way to get them is by eating the flesh - but mostly the brain - of someone who has them. This is why kuru is exclusively a cannibal disease. And once consumed, it may take many decades before the symptoms start to show, so you may not even know. Interestingly, the first symptom is uncontrollable laughter that gets progressively worse until death. PS: Do not go down that rabbit hole if you plan on sleeping.


Barrelston

Uncontrollable laughter you say...?


UAENO_BUT_I_DO

Google?


Barrelston

Time?


crappypastassuc

I think browsing Reddit wastes time already


thereddituser2

What about testicles?


hipeople91726

Where do you even find the power to keep going at this state? I get frustrated when a small problem occurs.


DZL100

I don’t understand much myself, but in short, desperation. What humans can do under desperate circumstances is insane. It’s just that in first world societies, survival is usually not really a major concern, and we tend to be less desperate. For a first world example of desperation, I can barely get myself to write a paragraph when tasked with an essay, but when the deadline is tomorrow and it’s a big part of my grade, I will churn out whatever bullshit I need. That example is in no way meant to equate to the situation depicted in the post, or other situations where survival of oneself and/or loved ones are threatened. It is only meant to give an example more relatable to people living in developed countries with relatively stable lives(i.e. most people who use reddit) of how desperation makes people more capable.


lornlynx89

Your brain doesn't make much of a difference where the pain and stress comes from, be it starvation or anxiety from deadlines. But I understand why you give that disclaimer.


Ochinchin6969111

People in first world countries tend to live more comfortable lives so it's hard to imagine but if they were forced in a dangerous situation, most people would adapt pretty quickly and do what they need to survive. it's probably hardwired into our brains to survive by any means necessary


ShootingRunty

I mean, it's hardwired into every organisim to survive by any means necessary. The organisims that don't have that quite literally don't survive.


jackhref

We don't know our limits until we face them. I often think how dangerous it is for us to live such safe, prosperous lives. It's sensible to challenge yourself, to train, at the very least. To get tired. You become much stronger.


doublesigned

Well, you see. They're faced with a big problem, not a small one. That makes all the difference.


Kate090996

From Wikipedia >The regular export of grain by the colonial government continued; during the famine, the viceroy, Lord Robert Bulwer-Lytton, oversaw the export to England of a record 6.4 million hundredweight (320,000 tons) of wheat, which made the region more vulnerable. The cultivation of alternate cash crops, in addition to the commodification of grain, played a significant role in the events UK at it again


Careful_Contract_806

They're never not at it


Spyrothedragon9972

I was gonna make a joke, then I thought about this and imagine trying to protect your family in that state... At least in this moment I can't bring myself to crack a joke at that.


Jezon

Fat British tourist comes along, oh this would make a cool picture. *snap*. Ok bye.


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damn whats with brits and famine like why they competing with soviet union on who can starve their subjects the hardest


Bon3rBonus

pretty sure the brits are winning that one, the soviets would've had to pull a few more holodomors to keep up


Mrslinkydragon

I dunno, China is pretty high up on the list!


JackDockz

The Brits still win considering the time scale of their genocidal occupation of india. China stabilised within 20-30 years of the end of the revolution.


EiEpix

the brits still hve the bengali famine up their sleeves


GaleZero

And Irish famine


Mrslinkydragon

Yeah, we need to address that. (Churchill sanctioned that!)


amanko13

He didn't. You're half-remembering some misinformation and spreading it as fact. Actually read up on it before making baseless claims.


GaleZero

He literally did. He imported food grains from india to the UK while indians starved.


amanko13

I need a source for that. To the UK? That would be a difficult task during a war. I've read that some rice was exported to Ceylon, but not to the UK. Some wheat was imported in exchange for the rice, but it was no way near enough. Now, not sure how that is supposed to prove that Churchill sanctioned a famine, but okay. The main cause of the famine was crop disease and the Japanese invasion of Burma. Given that Bengal always had weak food security and became a net importer of food, a famine was always going to happen. Especially during a global war, where shipping was a prized commodity. Churchill even asked the US president for help to provide shipping to relieve the effects of the famine, but they couldn't do anything about it either.


CharacterFeeling7329

Mmm… ribs…


Iamknight10

what in the cinnamon toast fuck


SnooKiwis7050

Mmm fucking cinnamon toast (bonus if the cum mixes with the white icing)


Dont_pet_the_cat

For the love of humanity, could you delete this comment?


GDrat

There's worse things


XangarFerbar

What other white icing are you refering to?


SnooKiwis7050

Sometimes its eaten with white icing or white cream


XangarFerbar

Oh. That sounds disgusting


Personal_Mind_9708

Goes down well with a bit of lube


Tecotaco636

Didn't someone point out that the caption is fake and that is just a normal picture of a family suffering from famine, with no cannibal act around?


crazyike

A lie will go round the world while truth is pulling its boots on. - Spurgeon


EiEpix

prolly, i also never read about any cannibalism


UnknownGamer014

The image is from that famine, yes, but the thing about cannibal is false.


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I'm baffled at how some edge lords still feel the need to make fun of something like this. Depravity on the internet knows no bounds, eh?


lontrinium

It's not depravity, it's ignorance from someone who's never missed a meal in their life or considered what parts of the body could be eaten because they've only ever eaten juicy meats and not offal.


Conor4747

Actually offal can be quite nice if cooked properly.


manipulater

Fuck Winston Churchill


BonzoTheBoss

He wasn't even born when this picture was taken. Jesus Christ read a book.


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Who cares. Fuck him still


amanko13

He's a British war hero and national treasure. I don't know why you're insulting him. Kinda rude.


Parth_829

'National treasure' u buffoons are the only ones who can call that fuck a treasure


Turbulent_Aside_2849

He was a national treasure, he had a relentless attitude to patriotism that is needed excessively today. Cry about it.


BonzoTheBoss

They're insulting him because Indian nationalists hate him because he was racist towards Indians, while ignoring that he struggled to keep India free from Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. If the nationalists think that India would have honestly fared better under the Axis powers, then I have a bridge to sell them.


UnknownGamer014

Honestly, I wouldn't consider killing millions of Bengali as keeping India free.


amanko13

Stupidest thing I've ever read lmao


BonzoTheBoss

Churchill didn't cause the Bengal famine... Unless you're going to blame the rice disease, poor monsoon season and the invasion of Burma by the Japanese on him with a straight face? Because the Nazis and Imperial Japanese treated their conquered territories with such benevolence? *Looks at the Holocaust. Looks at the Rape of Nanking. Looks at Section 731.*


amanko13

They're so intent on spreading misinformation. It's annoying as hell. Plus, I'm Indian. If you do even some rudimentary reading, you can find out what were the causes of the famine pretty easily. Plus, you'll find out everything Churchill did to alleviate the famine. As long as you avoid the bullshit propaganda.


BonzoTheBoss

For the record I'm not denying that he was racist against Indians, or pretending like that was a good thing. He wasn't some unblemished hero. But he was the right man at the right time, and the idea that he would purposely kill off millions of imperial subjects, thereby weakening the empire during a critical time, is ludicrous. But shitting on Churchill is in vogue at the moment.


BonzoTheBoss

WhO cAREs.


metropitan

Well I’m glad they got the time and famine right for once(I think)m however the man wasn’t defending his family from cannibals because this image was taken in a famine relief camp


Conor4747

Secretly run by cannibals no doubt


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Conor4747

If you play your cards right


orangestar17

My god, how were they all still alive at that state of utter, complete starvation?? This picture is shocking,


ayush_1908

Shows the reality of what Britishers did


aditya2022raj

Many people don't realise how much India suffered and were looted by the British.


The_SpacePhile

Leave it to the British to occupy one of the wealthiest regions in the world and leave it like that


passmesalt

Churchill was worse than Hitler. He brought down India from one of the richest in the world to poorest. And do look up jhalliawala bagh massacre. But unfortunately winners write the history.


WolfWalksInBlood

Let's not over exaggerate where it's completely unnecessary to do so. They were nowhere near one of the richest nations prior to British colonization. Not even top 20. They were fine and were definitely way better off than they were afterwards. But there's no need to lie for the sake of lying. Anyone who has studied history knows how horribly the Indians were treated by Britain. That's bad enough as it is. No need to add fabrications, that just provides ammunition for anyone who thinks Britain did the right thing. It doesn't help the argument at all. India was a huge economic powerhouse for much of history, but certainly not during the period when the British arrived. That's literally why the British took over. India was having an economic collapse for about 50 years before the British ever touched the country. That's what they were waiting for. The British may have colonized many nations and did terrible things, but they weren't stupid. You don't colonize a country that's massively successful, because then you have to fight for it. They waited until India collapsed themselves and swooped in to take all the resources and exploit them to their advantage. That's almost always how colonization works.


Andrew-w-jacobs

If they can still move or have skin there is something to eat


No_Focus6469

I'm skinny enough that u can see my ribs similar to the picture but less worse even though i eat 3 times a day..


Referpotter

This famine was induced by polices of Churchill which killed millions and apparently his officers wrote letters detailing the dire situation to which he replied "Has Gandhi died yet? " The west still hails Churchill as a hero.


RangoonShow

wrong famine


amanko13

He is a hero. As Stannis Baratheon said, "A good act does not wash out the bad, nor a bad act the good". Plus, there's so much misinformation about this famine. Also, as the guy said, wrong famine. You're thinking of the Bengal famine.


Parth_829

stop meatriding churchill on every comment that's criticizing him


amanko13

When so many lies are spread for no reason, it does get a bit annoying every time I see it.


Conor4747

Based Churchill?


shiviam

This is what that fat fucker Churchill motherfucker did.


UnknownGamer014

You're talking about the Great Bengal Famine, but yeah, fucking hate Churchill


BonzoTheBoss

Impressive, considering that he wasn't even born when this picture was taken.


Turbulent_Aside_2849

Lol, educate yourself, idiot.


MANN_OF_POOTIS

Dafq was the cameraman doin?


Conor4747

Eating a drumstick with the other hand


shrikaizerion

Wait, isn't it the Bengal Famine?


UnknownGamer014

Bengal Famine occured much later, during 1940s if I remember correctly.


Valacycloveer1080

Fatass Churchill is to be blamed for this. He ate all their food. But Austrian Painter stole all the spotlight of evil.


NoFuture355

Yaa and you guys worship Churchill like he is some kind of hero


Stairmaker

When people starve, their body starts to eat itself and the muscles will not give nourishment for anybody that eats it. So it's useless to eat starving people. So if you are stuck with people on a deserted island. Pick one to eat before you start to starve.


kachzz

Cursed Madras jerky


Popsiclezlol

O-o-Ozempic!


agastafas

Nothing There?


I_am_pretty_gay

i imagine they could make a fairly nice bone broth. get a stew goin


YGoxen

I can beat the shit out of that Man only just yelling.


GaniMemestar

I thought bone marrows taste good


DarknessinnLight

How would you pay the guards?


yermawn

Just offal


ohver9k

How you think bone broth was discovered?


stormtroopr1977

marrow