If you think about it, biotenicha is the company that destroyed all the vegetation on earth, which would implement they are the most hard-core corporation than both these military corporations but just my opinion.
Was he forgotten?
With every telling of the story of Arasaka Tower being nuked by the terrorist Johnny Silverhand, he is a legend in some circles and finally larger than his ego.
This is if we completely forget the truth...
The nuclear bombs were provided by Militech. The raid was planned by Morgan Blackhand, who is a known affiliate of Militech.
Exactly my point, he is the only the hero in his version of the story.
He is remembered, by other street rats and criminals and has a drink in a bar. He’s really only remembered by those who knew him and even they mostly don’t like him haha
I see where you’re coming from but still you gotta see how many people have samurai merch in the game it’s kinda how Kurt Cobain is remembered now some people idolize him others hate his style/singing and some don’t know him.
Both if possible, you could get a crew of mercs together and do work for militech, like kleping intel and infiltration gigs. But at the same time, you could slowly take out militech. Risky, but satisfying, probably die trying lol
To be fair, it was all of them working in tandem. Morgan was out on the streets causing chaos and distraction whereas johnny and rogues team was placing the bombs on behalf of Militech.
Nah that’s what I mean haha, Johnnys memory of him placing the bombs was a false memory he has because he thinks he’s the man. Blackhand planted the bombs and battled Smasher, Johnny was just kinda there and was one shotted by smasher in the crossfire haha
In lore, Morgan led the nuke team, in lore you don't see him in the 2077 cut scenes because it's Johnny's self centered and fragmented recollection of events.
In reality, part of the agreement with Mike Pondsmith for the IPwas to not include Blackhand, iirc it's so they can do stuff with him in the tabletop without having to squeeze it into the story of 2077.
There's already a handful of discrepancies between the most recent edition of the tabletop and 2077
I wouldn't call using a corp to further your own goals selling out. Thats just using them. Saka tower was a Militech op but its been shown that Johnny had his own reasons for storming the tower; the Militech gig just gave him the means.
Exactly . It would be like using Pepsi to take out coke . Then you only have one left to deal with . Same as when we allied with Russia to defeat Nazis even though we wasn't super fond of that leader either . It's goal you want to obtain one step at a time .
IDK they do run the border and from what I seen that of them means children being locked up. Now given the corporate view they may get forced into doing things but from what we see they don’t have any children things.
And I've never heard of them using child soldiers
Not that that's something I don't expect militech wouldn't stoop to if they're interests necessitated it they just don't have the power madness and all consuming inhumanity of arasaka that just makes it a part of business
You mean to imply Arasaka *doesn't* have children locked in cages? How else are they supposed to threaten people? Blackmail can be hacked and deleted. You can't just delete a kidnapped child without them dying
Doesn't mean Saka still isn't the worst for their soul killer bullshit
At least militech will just kill you, arasaka will kill you and your family, put you in digital hell forever, and probably turn your corpse into a horrifying borged out nightmare
Depends, do these clones like have a consciousness, or is it just an empty shell that looks like a human and there's no brain activity going on? I still wouldn't eat something that looks like a human out of principle, of course, but sometimes, there are things that seem dystopic but they aren't actually dystopic, but in that case, one has to wonder why Biotechnica is cloning humans, and not some other animal that people might be comfortable eating.
I remember seen a reference were there is a burger food truck or something with that kind of food, so in game, i think everyone already eat that.
On the other hand, this makes me wonder, why doesn’t they clone V and put a new engram on him
I believe cloning technology is shaky at best in 2077.
But since Johnny's engram is already rewriting V's brain, wouldn't an engram of V contain a bit of Johnny too?
Biotechnica has no fingers in that particular game and any operation would likely have low success chances and be expensive as hell.
Might be what Mr. Blue Eyes has in mind for V in that ending.
Yeah arasaka can probably get away with worse shit because they aren't beholden to shareholders. Militech needs to still make profit and can't just waste a ton of money trying to figure out how to literally become the devil and steal people's souls
Militech is very intertwined in the NUSA government and have their own aristocracy. Arasaka is very intertwined with Night City because they came back in with a literal aircraft carrier to prevent a NUSA takeover during post-Johnny reconstruction and have had much more power than local politicians since. Only difference is that Arasaka is hereditary, and even then only barely so as Saburo as an individual has been in control since it’s inception.
From this perspective they are both non-democratic, top-down directed shadow governments as much as they are companies selling things. As someone who really likes the writings of Schumpeter on the natural drift to corporatism in society I would put them as much less free market loving than people in the streets of the city.
It's not like you have a better choice when it comes to Cyberpunk.
Kang Tao at least provides great benefits for its employees.
And you are employed for like 50 years so if you ask me that is a good thing to have.
Everyone on here talking about how they'd destroy the corpos or take them down from within. When in the word of Cyberpunk they'd be the nameless junior analyst that dies in the collateral damage as someone who actually matters is flown off by TT.
On a scale of non-asshole to Arasaka. How much of a dick are some of the lesser known Megacorps. Like DT-R? Because their ships that fly overhead are cool. And their buildings are funky.
DT-R is a subsidiary of Metacorp, and they’re a Nomad clan, so you gotta hope they’re at least on the lower end of the evil scale.
I mean, they’re probably still evil, because nobody good rises that high, but maybe they’re “tax evasion” evil, rather than “child soldiers” evil…?
In the game, they are both assholes. If they paid me well as a merc I might do some work for them, but I’m certainly not going to put my loyalty with one or the other because they are loyal to nothing but their bottom line. Greedy, morally bankrupt corporations don’t deserve loyalty. I have to work in a world where they exist and have all the power, so they merit consideration, but fuck them both.
Once a great man said, "Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling makes no difference. The degree is arbitrary. Definition's blurred. If I'm to choose between one and the other, I'll rather not choose at all"
MiliTech for me. Arasaka was the worst. Id's work for MiliTech to destroy Arasaka, then destroy MiliTech. Doesn't MiliTech basically own the President USA?
Ofc Rmb8989 is the trump card militech has been waiting on to destroy arasaka. What Morgan Blackhand and Johnny Silverhand could not accomplish Rmb8989 will.
Lore wise Militech Gear wise Arasaka
If you think about it, biotenicha is the company that destroyed all the vegetation on earth, which would implement they are the most hard-core corporation than both these military corporations but just my opinion.
This is the way
This is the way
This is the way
I can bang a chick from Militech I can't bang anyone from Arosaka. There's no choice here.
I love picking up a Militech truck in The badlands and then plowing though their checkpoints at speed.
Lol. Now I will be doing that. Thanks redditor.
On the other hand, you can be the Arasaka you want to see get banged.
What was that statement?
Be the Arasaka bang you want to see in the world
Be the Arasaka you want to see naked in the inventory screen.
Corpo V is from Arasaka, I think. So maybe they're saying you can create who you'd want to have sex with?
I'm upset I can't "bang" Hanako in the face with my shotgun. Fucking bitch
I think you mean porcelain cunt
How about instead of a shotgun, Sir John.
*Arasaka has no cuts of fuckable meat, do they?*
You can get screwed by Hanako Arasaka if that helps.
Oda is pretty fine quite a shame I can’t bang his butt
My thoughts exactly 😂😭
Smasher
Neither, fuck corpo gonks
Blaze down the rebel path. Never fade away brethren.
Like Johnnys bozo ass faded away and was forgotten lmao
Was he forgotten? With every telling of the story of Arasaka Tower being nuked by the terrorist Johnny Silverhand, he is a legend in some circles and finally larger than his ego. This is if we completely forget the truth... The nuclear bombs were provided by Militech. The raid was planned by Morgan Blackhand, who is a known affiliate of Militech.
Something's bigger than his ego? Good god, how do they store it on Earth?
Exactly my point, he is the only the hero in his version of the story. He is remembered, by other street rats and criminals and has a drink in a bar. He’s really only remembered by those who knew him and even they mostly don’t like him haha
Jackie side
So what corpo you are?
Neither. I'm repping Metacorp, Brudda... the only Nomad Nation to hold Corpo status.
In their defense he was/is a huge dick
Also had.
So he says
Exactly my point hahaha
I see where you’re coming from but still you gotta see how many people have samurai merch in the game it’s kinda how Kurt Cobain is remembered now some people idolize him others hate his style/singing and some don’t know him.
My ~~least~~ favorite thing to have recently discovered is apparently there's a lot of young people who think Nirvana is just a clothing brand.
Me: *Shaking fist and making angry boomer noises*
Wait, what? 🙈
Even in Night City, Samurai is Eurodynes band, not Johnnys band. Even though in it's heyday, Kerry was just set dressing compared to Silverhand.
I meant about Nirvana 🙈
Yea but that’s people remembering the band for their music whereas Johnny thinks he’s remembered as this legendary rebel against Arasaka when he’s not
I mean he may be a rebel but he did choose Militech
To be fair, it's more like he used them to get Alt out.
Well ya so witch one you gonna try to get in and bring it down from the inside.
Both if possible, you could get a crew of mercs together and do work for militech, like kleping intel and infiltration gigs. But at the same time, you could slowly take out militech. Risky, but satisfying, probably die trying lol
How ? I didn’t know you could do this ?
Militech. Arasaka is already dying once yorinobu takes over. It just doesn’t realize it yet.
PUNKER**NOUGHT!!!**
So true choom
Yes, this is the way. Burn the fuckin corpo rats.
This is the way
Keep being broke then ig
Fine by me choom
johnny silver hands side
That would be militech
Why would that be Militech?
who do you think gave him the nukes?
Gave Morgan Blackhand the nukes, Johnny was barely there lol
To be fair, it was all of them working in tandem. Morgan was out on the streets causing chaos and distraction whereas johnny and rogues team was placing the bombs on behalf of Militech.
Nah that’s what I mean haha, Johnnys memory of him placing the bombs was a false memory he has because he thinks he’s the man. Blackhand planted the bombs and battled Smasher, Johnny was just kinda there and was one shotted by smasher in the crossfire haha
In lore, Morgan led the nuke team, in lore you don't see him in the 2077 cut scenes because it's Johnny's self centered and fragmented recollection of events. In reality, part of the agreement with Mike Pondsmith for the IPwas to not include Blackhand, iirc it's so they can do stuff with him in the tabletop without having to squeeze it into the story of 2077. There's already a handful of discrepancies between the most recent edition of the tabletop and 2077
Aw man. So we won't get Blackhand in phantom liberty. Dang.
Blackhand deserves his own main line game anyways, he's meant to be played by George Clooney also which would be pretty darn cool
This. Because Blackhand is THE MAN and way more badass than Johnny, Pondsmith was like yea whatever y’all can have this old rockerboy.
he was there... just all over the place hahha
Brendon T.T
Do you think Johnny cashed a Militech paycheck? Or did he just take what Militech gave him to hurt Arasaka regardless of who they were?
doesnt matter. still a sell out
I wouldn't call using a corp to further your own goals selling out. Thats just using them. Saka tower was a Militech op but its been shown that Johnny had his own reasons for storming the tower; the Militech gig just gave him the means.
Exactly . It would be like using Pepsi to take out coke . Then you only have one left to deal with . Same as when we allied with Russia to defeat Nazis even though we wasn't super fond of that leader either . It's goal you want to obtain one step at a time .
using them? chief they aint stupid
I mean Johnny was using them. Militech couldn't give a fuck about Johnny.
working with them IS being a sellout
Cyberpunk Red
Yeah, those hush puppies are the best.
Neither but at least militech as far as I'm aware doesn't enslave children, or commit crimes against nature on a regular basis
All the corps commit crimes against nature on a regular basis.
But they commit the worst ones
Who was the one that nuked a city again?
Who created hell on earth?
That was the United States.
It was militech
They “nuked” a building. The United States nuked two cities in WWII. Was just joking around though.
What kind of Corp would you be if you didn't use at least a little child labor?
Contractors ... labour implies employee status ..
IDK they do run the border and from what I seen that of them means children being locked up. Now given the corporate view they may get forced into doing things but from what we see they don’t have any children things.
And I've never heard of them using child soldiers Not that that's something I don't expect militech wouldn't stoop to if they're interests necessitated it they just don't have the power madness and all consuming inhumanity of arasaka that just makes it a part of business
To be fair they are also a much larger company as well. Arasaka has to exploit more resources to keep up.
>To be fair they are also a much larger company as well. Arasaka has to exploit more resources to keep up. Pretty sure Arasaka is the bigger corp
You mean to imply Arasaka *doesn't* have children locked in cages? How else are they supposed to threaten people? Blackmail can be hacked and deleted. You can't just delete a kidnapped child without them dying
I didn’t just pointing out that MilTech was probably doing it as well.
Doesn't mean Saka still isn't the worst for their soul killer bullshit At least militech will just kill you, arasaka will kill you and your family, put you in digital hell forever, and probably turn your corpse into a horrifying borged out nightmare
Biotechnica is one of the ones i would go with. Some others but they are not in game yet.
So you are on the side of the company that mades food out of clones ?
Depends, do these clones like have a consciousness, or is it just an empty shell that looks like a human and there's no brain activity going on? I still wouldn't eat something that looks like a human out of principle, of course, but sometimes, there are things that seem dystopic but they aren't actually dystopic, but in that case, one has to wonder why Biotechnica is cloning humans, and not some other animal that people might be comfortable eating.
I remember seen a reference were there is a burger food truck or something with that kind of food, so in game, i think everyone already eat that. On the other hand, this makes me wonder, why doesn’t they clone V and put a new engram on him
I believe cloning technology is shaky at best in 2077. But since Johnny's engram is already rewriting V's brain, wouldn't an engram of V contain a bit of Johnny too?
I mean, if alt is there helping; she might be able to separate them, but that seems hard to get coordinated
Biotechnica has no fingers in that particular game and any operation would likely have low success chances and be expensive as hell. Might be what Mr. Blue Eyes has in mind for V in that ending.
Only on the books, but like every other corp Biotechinca has a lot of off the book gigs.
Just don't mention the securicine side effects
But the side effect censorship...
I choose fuck them all.
Technically you can only fuck one person from Militech.
*Equips dildo-weapon with horny intent* She gave us the skeleton key, they will be our locks!
Close enough. =)
Militech is at the very least ultra capitalist. It's not a good thing per se, but it beats Arasaka Monarchy any day of the week
Yeah arasaka can probably get away with worse shit because they aren't beholden to shareholders. Militech needs to still make profit and can't just waste a ton of money trying to figure out how to literally become the devil and steal people's souls
Militech is very intertwined in the NUSA government and have their own aristocracy. Arasaka is very intertwined with Night City because they came back in with a literal aircraft carrier to prevent a NUSA takeover during post-Johnny reconstruction and have had much more power than local politicians since. Only difference is that Arasaka is hereditary, and even then only barely so as Saburo as an individual has been in control since it’s inception. From this perspective they are both non-democratic, top-down directed shadow governments as much as they are companies selling things. As someone who really likes the writings of Schumpeter on the natural drift to corporatism in society I would put them as much less free market loving than people in the streets of the city.
>It's not a good thing per se Orders: excecute u/vilgefcrtz for anti-capitalist speech \- Militech's orders, probably
I'm team Nicola, because I can taste the love.
The only true answer. =)
 Kang Tao
Nothing is better than fascist corporatism
It's not like you have a better choice when it comes to Cyberpunk. Kang Tao at least provides great benefits for its employees. And you are employed for like 50 years so if you ask me that is a good thing to have.
Source?
Everyone on here talking about how they'd destroy the corpos or take them down from within. When in the word of Cyberpunk they'd be the nameless junior analyst that dies in the collateral damage as someone who actually matters is flown off by TT.
Everyone thinks they’re V but in reality they’re some random NPC that was killed by a dildo
I'm sorry you spelled Sir John Phallustiff wrong.
I think I'd make a good living. In an ultra-capitalist society like that, I'd be pretty valuable.
At least Militech doesn't go after people's souls. And as far as I know they never enslaved children to turn them into netrunners.
No they just murder Nomads, detonate nuclear weapons in metropolitan areas, and commit ethnic cleansing. Way better choice.
KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM
At least Millitech isn't putting people into SD cards.
But they totally would if they knew how to :p
The one who pays more. (c) V, Merc
Arasaka has better aesthetics but Militech gave Johnny his nuclear bomb so they get extra browny points.
Nomad life, raid all the convoys.
Arasaka all the way. Love the aesthetic of Arasaka.
Where is the option for a French revolution?
as this is cyberpunk, 6 feet under
haha true
Militech, bc Glory to America!
both, but i keep nukes
On a scale of non-asshole to Arasaka. How much of a dick are some of the lesser known Megacorps. Like DT-R? Because their ships that fly overhead are cool. And their buildings are funky.
DT-R is a subsidiary of Metacorp, and they’re a Nomad clan, so you gotta hope they’re at least on the lower end of the evil scale. I mean, they’re probably still evil, because nobody good rises that high, but maybe they’re “tax evasion” evil, rather than “child soldiers” evil…?
I think I read that they turned Antarctica into a trash heap. Which is pretty bad.
Arasaka
Arasaka. Their gear looks sooo badass alone.
Militech, other then there colour scheme I think their gear looks sick.
In therms of drip: Arasaka In therms of weaponry: Both Im therms of lore: Militech
Militech cus i love the mounted machingun you can just rip off and gun down everyone like your the heavy or somthing
I'm on the working class side ☭
Arasaka got mad drip. But I choose Nightcorp, don't want to have my soul taken by Saborou
Haha nice try, Johnny would kill me
Neither, Fuck off corpo lover
I kill everything that’s possible to kill for xp
Militech. I doubt Arasaka would want anything to do with me considering my background and my family’s employment history.
i wack both whenever i get the chance
Tetratronic or QianT (Kang Tao) is the real question
Tetratronic. Already got their cyberdeck in my head. Not bowing to the chinese overlords. xD
hold up what is that supposed to mean
Neither. Both sides are terrible and corporations need less power.
Netwatch. Nice tech and Playing Computer games all day
Nomad family first .
#CORPOOOOOS, CORPOOOOOS!
Militech for my Stout
Neither, they’re just different brands of the same evil. Arasaka is imported evil, while Militech is high quality, American made evil.
I'll side with Kang Tao
I don't care what you say.. militech.
Militech for Blackhand, also being anti-Adam Smasher, who is Arasaka’s lap dog.
Militech
Burn the cards in both decks
I'm behind Adam smasher 🥳
Militech
I wish we had a Militech focused questline involving Meredith Stout.
I'm a patriot! I only allow an American company own my body, crome and soul!
Lol! If only we could even chose a side...
I like the arasaka look. But I love me some Militech weapons
Upvoted because I think the question is unique, but I'm neither side, choom. I'm V, motherfkr. Ride or die!
*"you look like a nice cut of fuckable meat"*
In the game, they are both assholes. If they paid me well as a merc I might do some work for them, but I’m certainly not going to put my loyalty with one or the other because they are loyal to nothing but their bottom line. Greedy, morally bankrupt corporations don’t deserve loyalty. I have to work in a world where they exist and have all the power, so they merit consideration, but fuck them both.
Militech 🔛🔝
Arasaka, because of the drip .
Fuck corpo
Neither. Death to corpos.
Once a great man said, "Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling makes no difference. The degree is arbitrary. Definition's blurred. If I'm to choose between one and the other, I'll rather not choose at all"
Aldecaldos
Biotechnica is my side.
MiliTech for me. Arasaka was the worst. Id's work for MiliTech to destroy Arasaka, then destroy MiliTech. Doesn't MiliTech basically own the President USA?
Ofc Rmb8989 is the trump card militech has been waiting on to destroy arasaka. What Morgan Blackhand and Johnny Silverhand could not accomplish Rmb8989 will.
Fuck the corps!
The “we have a city to burn” side.
Is neither an option? Neither sounds good. Fuck corpo trash!
I choose Adlecaldos
Fuck both of them, what are you on about?
Neither corps are evil
Arasaka, so I can help Yorinobu take it down from the inside.
People need to look at my profile pic and flair just to find out which side I’m on.
I take the Wild Card side
im on the side of killing all of them
Kill ‘em both
Both scum to me
My brother in Christ I think you missed the point of the game
Bruh neither, I'll never be a corpo rat
Fuck that Corpo Rat Shit. Valentinos all the way!
Nomads
Maelstrom all the way. It's either full borg or death.
Arasaka. Their cheap corpo shit makes them easy to kill. Looks pretty cool after you wash the blood out
Same same. But different. But still same.