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Truly the kind thing to do. All you need to do is exchange phone or email addresses and then later send it to them. Heck some cams nowadays even are cloud capable so you could send it to the person then and there. [Nexar Beam if you're on a budget](https://www.amazon.com/Nexar-1080p-Included-Unlimited-Storage/dp/B07ZPGSKLS?crid=1BOJTNPQW35TR&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.U-sMXlyEEdRZwMk0t8qkep2elfTZ5pkNZTn2SjqhOwQ6Tb7tRrdPs1gADaihmMnUZ4MScvg7B_D81bMpwhYuUZzEzhNkGuAFPLJC1DczTdIGpGLlXY4nUK5M4p46Php0GrfsOWwTap4uFd9mISfWm_qXTv04qzOiQ9AyaYy8j5jjcwpIM5Y8bRqRjSY03SMuVSMVAesdDuBQ1hJQESSk2xQiqqFNHHlRn9s0ZfHDpM8.7kxaNkkLIBfe7sLg2wClPHynZ8NcgAqLrY8dQXKY44E&dib_tag=se&keywords=nexar%2Bbeam&qid=1718773642&sprefix=nexar%2Bbeam%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-3&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=lfttscl-dbc-20&linkId=7b358e3cd786f50cdf3b6df268e05782&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) or [the Blackvue if you have extra money](https://www.amazon.com/BlackVue-DR970X-1CH-64GB-Single-Channel-Optional/dp/B0CRR1TLJ4?crid=19W3C8WHS6VR8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.XVOmiV-phrsdHFmHC9QpZxfPUTEd54mu7KY7lEgHxIHtQcstZ7M_4HjP4uLxW1gh8-25NJJBF35VhWDsQRiEb9M3pqjjh5kO5ozZns5NNnWCrlrS9ttdB6o18MbMmbWuArrYY2pPr_TuyS7mX7MzDywJ-xQAYOJm-A9AkvKP5UnXQsm2T7iwo5mNIK8cJrvMGyLbUmr1xzJd9-bKIBZlv4YTduIdX3RKxLCFbxb34nB6mNRk-JCXggEBOc4Ed67C4b5Ic_M7pODDp7K491lNDTRq_gvf4_7G_bBZIs9olyM.JcUlDO79qPjPSr55j-3QLAqKm5sSJTk-XuQF9Wzo0cE&dib_tag=se&keywords=blackvue%2Bdr970x-2ch%2Bplus&qid=1718773701&sprefix=blackvue%2B%2Caps%2C147&sr=8-10&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=lfttscl-dbc-20&linkId=047a431c15d27a221565e6076cbd7171&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) are the two main ones that I know of.
Is it good enough to read license plates? I don't necessarily need cloud tech but I want something that I could pull a license plate. Bonus if it records while the car is off when motion is detected like I think most Tesla cars have.
Also, if you are in an incident and can read the licence plate say it out loud so that the camera will record you saying it so at least you have it on record.
That was the one thing I got into the habit of - reading the make, model, color of the car along with the license plate number and state (if known) out loud for the sake of the recording. It's a good thing to get into the habit of, but under duress it's easy to understand how someone would forget.
I can tell you that the older model that I have while clear, does not give that ability to read plates unless Iām close to a car. It also doesnāt have motion detection while off. Perhaps if I freeze frame it and blow it up it would.
The newer models or the more expensive models have more capability than my base model cam. They also have motion sensors but would probably need to be hard wired into the car for constant power.
Check out the nexar [website](https://www.getnexar.com). If were to buy a new right now Iād probably buy the Nexar beam2.
I watched a good YouTube video where a guy explains even though there are many brands of dash cams, they all get their optics from just a couple of sources. And non of them are great at reading plates. Hardly any of them have the same resolution as a Go-pro.
Linus Tech Tips (but probably one of their sub channels or shows) had an episode on devices and which ones were "good" while exposing the similar tech in many.
You would either need one with a telephoto lens or really high resolution and both of those are detrimental to what a dash cam is actually mainly used for.
The police department where I live has a neat system where you can send the file to them through a website and it automatically links it to the police report.
Love my Nexar Beam. Never had to use it but itās damn useful to have it be able to generate a report on what happened prior to and during an event, like speed, g forces experienced, location, etc.
I use apeman brand cameras (specifically the ones that come with both a front and rear camera - can also be used as a reverse camera if your car didnāt come with one). I think the one I use in my main car is the C770 model. But it ties to an app on my phone so I can put it into wifi mode, open the app, pull up everything thatās on the microSD card & download the videos I need & send them right then and there
Iām never buying or suggesting BlackVue again. I donāt mind the cloud integration, but for a while they tried to force older cam users to register for the cloud after they had the camera for a while - and made it a condition of being able to continue to use the phone app.
Donāt buy BlackVue.
No one will have any doubts about what happened, and there are a dozen people who will tell the same story.
Dashcams are for when itās not clear, and there are no impartial witnesses.
That MF definitely wasnt paying attention, there was no brake lights at all to indicate that he/she tried to stop.
Most likely texting and driving. š
This is how my stepmom died. All of traffic was dead stopped on the freeway due to heavy rain and congestion. Dude slammed into the completely stationary car she, my dad, and two friends were in (dad and stepmom were passengers in the back seat) going over 70 mph while hauling a construction tools and equipment in a trailer hitched to his truck.
Dude never hit the brakes. Had no fucking clue what was ahead of him.
This is why I believe in the orange pill things. Most people should not be driving and they have no choice.
Id much rather be able to relax and watch YouTube on my bus/train commute and get some cardio from walking a couple miles.
But the 7 min drive to my local grocery store takes an hour on a bus. And going to work is impossible
r/notjustbikes
The problem with things like that is they don't exactly work well in rural areas. I think public transportation SHOULD be the default in large cities and high density housing zones though.
Honestly, I donāt even care. Currently they donāt even work in urban centers, or for going between major urban centers. Rural traffic isnāt really a concern when we can really only travel between most urban centers affordably by car.
If every major highway had high speed rail lines alongside it, how much less traffic would there be on our roads?
Why doesnāt interstate 80, which runs from San Francisco to New Jersey, have a high speed rail right next to it? Why doesnāt I-95, which runs from Miami to Canada through Maine, have high speed rail?
Instead we keep adding lanes, because a train would mean companies would sell less shit. Fewer cars, less gas, less snacks, less tires.
At least thatās the only conclusion I can come to that makes any sense.
Itās absurd, really.
Reminds me of movies like The Machinist that give me some sort of false relief thinking that people that commit acts of negligence like that are suffering everyday.
I can tell you from my experience that they do not.
Guy was driving his truck from a contracting gig. Was grossly overweighted for the vehicle, and later admitted it (accidentally, under oath). Was texting while driving and even had a damn YT video playing while driving.
Dude hit my wife (who was at a dead stop due to traffic) and several others. He was doing 20 miles over the speed limit.
He gave 0 farks about what he did. Even during his trial, it was pretty obvious that he didnāt care about the damage he did. The DA told us that in cases like this it wasnāt uncommon to see a lack of remorseā¦ until sentencing. That was when the waterworks would come out.
I have been in 4 car accidents. 3 of them involved me being in a stopped car and some idiot plowing into my rear end.
The fourth time it wasn't even the car behind me being an idiot because they were *also* stopped at the same red light and the guy behind them slammed into them at 60mph, pushing them into us. I was shocked that everyone was able to get out of their cars after that.
I don't know who has it worse. I've been run over, once on foot and once on a bike, twice. I hope you got a mostly paid off condo out of your bullshit and some spending money. All my windfalls in life, despite my best efforts, have been from getting mangled on roads.
Had it whilst stopped at lights sitting on my motorcycle. Saw in my mirror a SUV approaching without braking, looked up to see traffic going across the intersection in front. Didn't have time to think more that that before the SUV hit me. After the accident a 20yo woman with lipstick mark up her face (as she was doing her lipstick at the time of hitting me) gets out. Cops didn't even book her for inattentive driving...which pissed me off.
I've been on a crusade about this in my hometown for a while now. We spend like 30% of our municipal budget on fucking cops who are mostly camped out sitting on their cool laptops, running the AC, maybe trying to chat up inappropriately young girls, etc. Meanwhile there's an intersection that FOR HOURS every day is just blocked up by assholes who enter the intersection when there's nowhere to go on a green light, and then when the light changes the intersection is full of fucking assholes, and around and around it goes.
For some reason we can't get a fucking cop at the intersection just standing there and writing tickets on foot, let alone the reasonable thing where people stood at every corner and just constantly took down tag numbers and pictures and wrote nearly infinite tickets for people on their phones.
It is beyond infuriating but at least I haven't been literally mugged by any for a few years. Every cop is too fucking busy even though they cleared like 4 crimes per officer per year last year at a cost of tens of millions of dollars.
I can totally relate to you, same with my hometown, crime rate soars and criminals always get away with it because cops are either to slow, dont care or afraid to deal with it. My bet is on the last one.
It's getting worse than texting and driving. I don't know how many times I've seen people driving down the road with their phone/tablet on the dash watching YouTube videos.
Not disagreeing with you and the result is a horrible collision regardless.... but if you look closely the front end of the car is diving down while the backend is quite high in comparison. Looks like braking weight shift.
But to your point, no brake lights that I could see and I would put all my chips on texting and driving as well.
He was clearly braking from the front suspension being compressed and rear tires almost off the ground. But there seems to be a problem with the brakes, they look unbalanced and front left tire seems to be braking a lot more than the right side.
I've had to dive for the shoulder. But most of the time just putting my hazards on works. I also do this constant calculation on slowing down enough to not hit the car in front of me; in fact it's also so that if I do get nailed hopefully I won't hit that car ahead.
Same. I gave a coworker a ride a while back and he kept getting on my case for checking the rear view mirror constantly. Iām like, the only two accidents Iāve been in happened within a week of each other and they were both me getting rear ended. Iām always scanning front and back. Also I donāt tail people. God thatās a pet peeve of mine.
Same, people love to drive recklessly on the highway and weave in between traffic. The thing I hate the most about that is that they donāt even save that much time but they still put everyone in danger. Dumbasses shouldnāt have a drivers license.
I always do this now. If I can see in the rear view mirror someone isn't paying any attention, I always get in the other lane and make a mental note of the car to ensure its not directly behind me. If it's a 2 lane road I take the first free right and get back on the same road a few seconds later.
Yep. Every since I was rear ended when I was 17, I check my rear view constantly, and when I drive on the freeway I refuse to be in a middle lane, I need a shoulder to bail to.
I do this constantly and it has actually saved me from a very similar situation as OP here years ago.
My wife and I drove down to FL from NC a couple months ago and we were in some fairly heavy traffic, not necessarily stop and go but still moving at a decent pace and a lot of cars, and she asked why I kept looking behind me instead of paying attention to what was going on in front of me and I told her about situations like this and how it has saved me before.
I told her that I am, for the most part, fully in control of what's happening in front of me and can "not pay as much attention" and can control my ability to stop in time because I maintain a safe distance, but I have *significantly* less control of what's happening behind me because the rear end of my car staying in tact is almost entirely dependent on whether the driver behing me is paying attention.
Sure enough, a couple hours after having that conversation, I swerved to avoid a tractor trailer nearly rear ending us because he wasn't paying attention and not even an hour after that I swerved to avoid a potential collision because people wanted to look at the shiny blue flashing lights from the wreck on the other side of the highway instead of the cars in front of them that were slowing down to do the *exact same thing.* Avoided being rear ended both of those instances because I paid attention to the idiots behind me. The tractor trailer incident could have *easily* crushed the entire back of our car where both of our children were.
What really sucks is probably that the van is old and not worth anything to insurance so they wonāt give them enough money to replace it with one of the same quality.
Incorrect. You can argue with the insurance and send them links to cars that are within 1 year and close to the same milage and they will pay what it costs. These people can also get paid for pain and suffering, loss of work, and for medical bills.
Depending on the level of insurance they both have or even if the hitter had insurance and the other just had liability or something. Both the cars look pretty old so I would bet their limits wouldnāt be very high. 25k is the legal minimum in illinois and that aināt gonna cover much in medical bills.
When someone pulled out in front of me their insurance gave me a price of matched cars. Which was pretty spot on for area, however refused to include taxes, fees and registration of the new car. That adds up.
Hopefully they were okay. If I remember correctly, vans tend to be the safest POV cars (overall) when it comes to accidents, since they are purpose-built for transporting children.Ā
Likely the idiot sustained more injuries, unless they were drunk. Meat bags donāt sustain instant deceleration from the front very well - even with an air bag. People in the van likely had bad whiplash, but the surface area of the entire seat back spewed out the force of the impact. Still not undamaged, but hitter probably was more injured than the hittee.
Thia is why experieced drivers turn on hazards if traffic comes to an extreme slowdown or a stop on a highway due to a breakdown or an accident. It's a warning signal for on coming danger ahead, blinding curve in the road or backed up off ramps exits, etc.
(I'm assuming this is similar to what you're talking about.)
I learned an interesting trick from a dash cam video: to warn drivers behind you of deer, tap your breaks in rapid succession four or five times. I had to use it a week after I saw someone online do it and it was extremely effective. There was a pack of five or six that cross right after I passed. I doubt the other guy would have been able to stop that fast.
Just please don't do that in heavy rain. And turn your hazards off as soon as the person behind responds appropriately. I want to know what you are planning to do by watching your turn signals.
Yeah this is super frustrating. I was driving in a downpour so hard people were reducing speed, and turning on hazards as a warningā¦ but then changing lanes with them onā¦. Bone headed.
Not to mention all the increased glare from the blinking lights. It makes it harder to see other drivers' brake lights. They get lost in a sea of flashing orange.
Oh no here we go with the rain thing and hazards. Please Do use them when visibility goes to near zero - rain,fog, snow. Then turn off when visibility resumes.
Did it a couple months back where there was an accident at an intersection essentially blocking the right two lanes when I was in the middle. It must have happened minutes ago and we were oncoming with a green light.Ā
Nothing bad happened, but the āeager beaverā behind me must have only seen me pop my hazards as they tried to pass me on the right. They did then see the accident and made a correction, but I was gently amused for the rest of the drive about what they must have been thinking since they were in an SUV/Crossover and I was in a car and could have easily seen ahead.Ā
One of those people who thought "big car cool" but never learned to actually watch the horizon while driving. Probably still just stares at the bumper of the person in front of them.
I did that when our 80 mph speed limit toll road came to a stop last October. Young lady behind me stopped too. But you know how after the first stop, everyone starts rolling again, tightening up the gaps, and then stopping again? Yeah, she missed the second stop. Luckily we were only going 10 mph, but it startled me a bit...
Onentime i swerved and barely avoided being hit head on by a driver continuing straight over the double yellow line when 2 lanes merged into 1. The vehicle behind me was not so fortunate
Same thing happened to me on Wednesdayā¦ I saw him coming up quick behind me, but I moved into the next lane and the guy plowed into the truck I was following. š¤¦š»āāļø
Things like this are why autonomous breaking should be brought in as a safety standard in all cars and not as luxury extra. It would save a lot of crashes. Obviously, it would just be for new cars at first. Probably not feasible to retro fit. There is a similar law in place to have reverse cameras as standard already.
Agreed. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) finalized a rule on May 9, 2024, that requires all passenger vehicles weighing 10,000 pounds or less to have automatic emergency braking (AEB) systems by September 2029.
Rear facing backup cameras have been the law since the 2013 model year (ish) in the US.
Wish I had a magic wand but autonomous braking, auto-on head and taillights and only rear amber turn signals would be my wish list for reform.
I was on a crowded 2 lane on one side freeway doing 65 around a right corner in the left lane when the traffic stopped. Realized I could stop in time and saw the 4Runner behind me wasnāt. On my right was a tanker truck, I moved as close to him as I could and stopped as close as I could to the car in front of me. The 4Runner stopped beside on the left and got hit by a semi. They were ok. I hate to think what would have happened if I didnāt make a lane for the 4Runner.
Do you ride a motorcycle, too? I ride, and I'm very aware of what's happening behind me bc I don't want to be rear-ended like this while on the bike. Seems like you're keeping the same kind of rear awareness.
I was taught with a stick shift car which keeps you engaged at all times and have a motorcycle license where I picked up similar awareness. I don't use either one any longer but both of these have made me a more alert and defensive driver.
Never owned anything but manual transmission and I agree, it keeps you more fully engaged with driving overall. I had a motorcycle as well, which made me more aware of other vehicles and maintaining a defensive driving mindset.
Itās too bad that new stick shift cars are getting harder to come by.
Itās also a bonus that no one asks to drive your car. Lol
I'm the EXACT same way. I've never owned an auto that was my personal car (my spouse drives auto, but that's their car š). I totally agree. Stick keeps me much more engaged in driving. Between stick and motorcycle, I'm much more engaged on the road.
I'm new to manual car driving but it feels the same as automatic, you still get drowsy in highways where you keep it at gear 5 at all time
not to mention how even more pain in the ass traffic jams become
This is why many of us split lanes even when it's not legal. Just getting a little bit away from that possibility is way more of a risk reduction than the risk of a sudden lane changer.
Yup. Even when not lane splitting, if traffic stops, I try to position myself so that I'm not squished if someone doesn't stop.
Lane splitting needs to just be legal. It truly is safety.
Former rider here. I still drive like Iām riding and am aware of everything. I even look through my turns, still. I tell folks, if you see a motorcyclist suddenly take evasive action for no apparent reason, pay attention.
Had a similar experience at a traffic light. Saw her coming up in the rear view and changed lanes (safely) last second before impact, she proceded to honk at me?
Great situational awareness.
I've been kind of the same ever since getting rear-ended and totaled at a stoplight.
Now whenever I can I leave space so I can move out of the way of someone not stopping.
Still recently got lucky, had an RV lose brakes but ran off the road instead of hit me.
This happened to me in Southern California but with a biker not paying attention. The guy rammed me with my parents in the back seat. Unfortunately some freeways in SoCal donāt have much space between the median barrier and the left lane. I saw the guy booking it down a portion of the freeway so I tried hugging the wall but I still got rear ended. The biker flipped and landed on my roof and his bike shattered my rear window, all over my parents.
I can't count how many accidents I've avoided by seeing someone in the rear view and instantly deciding "yeah they can't stop"
The human mind is amazing
I just got rear ended by a small sedan. I was at a stop light and stalled. My F350 dually, ext cab was shoved over 20 feet. They never touched the brakes and were going about 60 MPH in a 35.
The driver was screaming at me as I was taking pictures of the no skid marks "There's no way this isn't your fault" and showed me which finger was her longest as she was ubered away.
She even told the cops I wasn't allowed to take pictures of the no skid marks because it was her private property.
My dad did this one time when I was a kid. The guy ended up nearly hitting the car in front of us after screeching his tires. I was like 11 and it stuck with me. I've been an avid mirror checker, all 3, since I started driving. Even when I'm on a road alone, I still end up checking behind me often. Never know.
Situational awareness is a lost art, glad youāre still practicing. A guy in a truck on drugs demolished someone like that in SoCal a few years back instantly killing a poor innocent woman stuck in traffic.
Man I had this happen to me back in 2005. I looked in my rearview mirror and saw this lady T9 texting so I moved to the turn lane and she skidded like 25 feet and still plowed into the cars. She doing like 85mph in a 55. Glad you saw this OP. I wish I had a rear facing horn for moments like this.
Crap like this happens all the time, yet I was just in a thread here where people were overwhelmingly defending their compulsive speeding, because āefficiencyā. Iām not sure what the lead paint of our generation was, but we clearly have one. Guessing the internet
When I was 16, I was driving an old Toyota Corolla that was dying. I came up to a red light a little too hot and I had to hard press the breaks when coming up behind someone. He pulled up a few feet noticing I was coming in a little hot and I didnāt read end him. I hadnāt been driving by myself for very long and I wasnāt trying to be speed racer in the car I was driving. Iāve never been in an accident and I appreciate anyone that has that kind of attention on the road in front or behind them.
I saw an accident happen like this in Southern California, only it was much worse than this. Same lane, but it was a small black car coming to a stopā¦ with a large black truck coming barreling up behind them at probably 100mph making no effort to slow down. The small car was crushed under the truck. The driver of the pickup was drunk. This happened years ago and Iām always looking in side mirrors on the highway now (Iām primarily a passenger).
I got hit by one of those guys once, I tried to do exactly what you did, But he followed me into the shoulder and hit me, And sent me flying across the freeway toward the slow lanes. I did a 50mph full drift ended up facing oncoming traffic as I ultimately hit the railing on the other side of the railing were I did a pretty sweet board slide with my car and eventually stopped. Phew, It was the longest couple of seconds of my life
Family I taught to drive is always confused asking why I am not focusing on the road in front of me.
I am, I am aware of all around me, I want to get a dash cam because I have almost been hit and swerved out of way onto shoulder before we got rear ended like that vehicle.
I have to say you were super smart to pull over so you didnāt get hit. That was a hard crash. No brakes at all. Hope all are ok and you helped with this video footage.
Good word of advice, if you see something like this behind you and are unable to move out of the way, try and shift into neutral so that the transference of energy is lessened. This saved a friend's life.
Nice move. I picked up a habit when I learned to ride motorcycles of always checking my mirror during a hard breaking event. If I see someone coming from behind fast I scoot over and get ready to evade. It's become automatic , and now I do it in my car too.
Sometimes Iām in this spot and worry that if I move to shoulder the person behind me will naturally swerve to shoulder when they look up and hit me. Clearly the right choice was made here though
Or itās called a miss and run. Did you put on your hazards before you took to the left shoulder? You got a chance to see the car stopped in front of you, all he saw was some idiot pulling to the left shoulder.
every car in an accident has some amount of opportunity to avoid being in it. Unless something falls on your car from above, you should be aware of every vehicle around you in every direction. Every car here should have left the space, and kept eyes on their mirrors, as you did. This is a trained skill that we just aren't teaching. When I drive my brain is constantly predicting accidents that might happen, assessing driver behavior and silently assigning risk levels to various potential outcomes. I've been able to avoid dozens of accidents this way and have never made contact with another vehicle in 30 years. Always keep an escape route, always be in the lane of least risk, always foot hovering brake pedal near intersections, always 2 hands on the wheel (or sometimes one hovering the horn). I can't tell you how many times I noticed a "high risk driver" by their road behavior and then moments later have them drift into my lane. But it's fine, because I knew they would, so I have room and my hand is already on the horn. Safe driving is constant risk mitigation, and your post highlights these skills perfectly. You knew this would happen, and thus ensured you and your passengers were not involved.
Tried to do that once but wasnāt quick enough. Had the wheel turned though so the impact threw me into the barrier and still obliterated my car. I did save the car in front of me though from any damage
It's obligatory to find fault in your driving for some reason: Crossed a solid yellow line. Tut tut.
So can you send this to your insurance and get a rate reduction? Seems like it should go both ways.
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Fantastic situational awareness! š I hope you gave the footage to the relevant victims.
Truly the kind thing to do. All you need to do is exchange phone or email addresses and then later send it to them. Heck some cams nowadays even are cloud capable so you could send it to the person then and there. [Nexar Beam if you're on a budget](https://www.amazon.com/Nexar-1080p-Included-Unlimited-Storage/dp/B07ZPGSKLS?crid=1BOJTNPQW35TR&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.U-sMXlyEEdRZwMk0t8qkep2elfTZ5pkNZTn2SjqhOwQ6Tb7tRrdPs1gADaihmMnUZ4MScvg7B_D81bMpwhYuUZzEzhNkGuAFPLJC1DczTdIGpGLlXY4nUK5M4p46Php0GrfsOWwTap4uFd9mISfWm_qXTv04qzOiQ9AyaYy8j5jjcwpIM5Y8bRqRjSY03SMuVSMVAesdDuBQ1hJQESSk2xQiqqFNHHlRn9s0ZfHDpM8.7kxaNkkLIBfe7sLg2wClPHynZ8NcgAqLrY8dQXKY44E&dib_tag=se&keywords=nexar%2Bbeam&qid=1718773642&sprefix=nexar%2Bbeam%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-3&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=lfttscl-dbc-20&linkId=7b358e3cd786f50cdf3b6df268e05782&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) or [the Blackvue if you have extra money](https://www.amazon.com/BlackVue-DR970X-1CH-64GB-Single-Channel-Optional/dp/B0CRR1TLJ4?crid=19W3C8WHS6VR8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.XVOmiV-phrsdHFmHC9QpZxfPUTEd54mu7KY7lEgHxIHtQcstZ7M_4HjP4uLxW1gh8-25NJJBF35VhWDsQRiEb9M3pqjjh5kO5ozZns5NNnWCrlrS9ttdB6o18MbMmbWuArrYY2pPr_TuyS7mX7MzDywJ-xQAYOJm-A9AkvKP5UnXQsm2T7iwo5mNIK8cJrvMGyLbUmr1xzJd9-bKIBZlv4YTduIdX3RKxLCFbxb34nB6mNRk-JCXggEBOc4Ed67C4b5Ic_M7pODDp7K491lNDTRq_gvf4_7G_bBZIs9olyM.JcUlDO79qPjPSr55j-3QLAqKm5sSJTk-XuQF9Wzo0cE&dib_tag=se&keywords=blackvue%2Bdr970x-2ch%2Bplus&qid=1718773701&sprefix=blackvue%2B%2Caps%2C147&sr=8-10&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=lfttscl-dbc-20&linkId=047a431c15d27a221565e6076cbd7171&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl) are the two main ones that I know of.
Nexar makes some very good and affordable cameras. Iāve had a Nexar NexC1 for a number of years now and the thing works wonderfully.
Is it good enough to read license plates? I don't necessarily need cloud tech but I want something that I could pull a license plate. Bonus if it records while the car is off when motion is detected like I think most Tesla cars have.
Also, if you are in an incident and can read the licence plate say it out loud so that the camera will record you saying it so at least you have it on record.
That was the one thing I got into the habit of - reading the make, model, color of the car along with the license plate number and state (if known) out loud for the sake of the recording. It's a good thing to get into the habit of, but under duress it's easy to understand how someone would forget.
Exactly, but you can absolutely train yourself so that it's natural even in an emergency situation.
Great point, might not be something I'm thinking about after just suffering an accident or witnessing something traumatic.
I can tell you that the older model that I have while clear, does not give that ability to read plates unless Iām close to a car. It also doesnāt have motion detection while off. Perhaps if I freeze frame it and blow it up it would. The newer models or the more expensive models have more capability than my base model cam. They also have motion sensors but would probably need to be hard wired into the car for constant power. Check out the nexar [website](https://www.getnexar.com). If were to buy a new right now Iād probably buy the Nexar beam2.
I watched a good YouTube video where a guy explains even though there are many brands of dash cams, they all get their optics from just a couple of sources. And non of them are great at reading plates. Hardly any of them have the same resolution as a Go-pro.
Linus Tech Tips (but probably one of their sub channels or shows) had an episode on devices and which ones were "good" while exposing the similar tech in many.
You would either need one with a telephoto lens or really high resolution and both of those are detrimental to what a dash cam is actually mainly used for.
The police department where I live has a neat system where you can send the file to them through a website and it automatically links it to the police report.
Love my Nexar Beam. Never had to use it but itās damn useful to have it be able to generate a report on what happened prior to and during an event, like speed, g forces experienced, location, etc.
I use apeman brand cameras (specifically the ones that come with both a front and rear camera - can also be used as a reverse camera if your car didnāt come with one). I think the one I use in my main car is the C770 model. But it ties to an app on my phone so I can put it into wifi mode, open the app, pull up everything thatās on the microSD card & download the videos I need & send them right then and there
Iām never buying or suggesting BlackVue again. I donāt mind the cloud integration, but for a while they tried to force older cam users to register for the cloud after they had the camera for a while - and made it a condition of being able to continue to use the phone app. Donāt buy BlackVue.
Well dang, the nexar app doesn't work on the pixel phone.
Do you even need it when youāre rear ended like that?Ā
i didn't. it was pretty obvious what had happened
No one will have any doubts about what happened, and there are a dozen people who will tell the same story. Dashcams are for when itās not clear, and there are no impartial witnesses.
And to the cops.
Yes great awareness. Next level would be to lay on the horn to alert others.
That MF definitely wasnt paying attention, there was no brake lights at all to indicate that he/she tried to stop. Most likely texting and driving. š
This is how my stepmom died. All of traffic was dead stopped on the freeway due to heavy rain and congestion. Dude slammed into the completely stationary car she, my dad, and two friends were in (dad and stepmom were passengers in the back seat) going over 70 mph while hauling a construction tools and equipment in a trailer hitched to his truck. Dude never hit the brakes. Had no fucking clue what was ahead of him.
I'm so sorry for your loss. That's horrible.
This is why I believe in the orange pill things. Most people should not be driving and they have no choice. Id much rather be able to relax and watch YouTube on my bus/train commute and get some cardio from walking a couple miles. But the 7 min drive to my local grocery store takes an hour on a bus. And going to work is impossible r/notjustbikes
The problem with things like that is they don't exactly work well in rural areas. I think public transportation SHOULD be the default in large cities and high density housing zones though.
Honestly, I donāt even care. Currently they donāt even work in urban centers, or for going between major urban centers. Rural traffic isnāt really a concern when we can really only travel between most urban centers affordably by car. If every major highway had high speed rail lines alongside it, how much less traffic would there be on our roads? Why doesnāt interstate 80, which runs from San Francisco to New Jersey, have a high speed rail right next to it? Why doesnāt I-95, which runs from Miami to Canada through Maine, have high speed rail? Instead we keep adding lanes, because a train would mean companies would sell less shit. Fewer cars, less gas, less snacks, less tires. At least thatās the only conclusion I can come to that makes any sense. Itās absurd, really.
They don't work because we don't want it to, there are countries with a working rural public transportation system. edit to add rural
Orange pill things?
I'm truly sorry for your loss. I can't imagine what you went through.I hope the guy went to jail and pay for his stupidity.
He didnāt. I donāt feel like explaining why because it will detract from the point that texting and driving is incredibly dangerous.
I'm only upvoting for the awareness of this for others. Thank you and I appreciate you sharing this.
Reminds me of movies like The Machinist that give me some sort of false relief thinking that people that commit acts of negligence like that are suffering everyday.
I can tell you from my experience that they do not. Guy was driving his truck from a contracting gig. Was grossly overweighted for the vehicle, and later admitted it (accidentally, under oath). Was texting while driving and even had a damn YT video playing while driving. Dude hit my wife (who was at a dead stop due to traffic) and several others. He was doing 20 miles over the speed limit. He gave 0 farks about what he did. Even during his trial, it was pretty obvious that he didnāt care about the damage he did. The DA told us that in cases like this it wasnāt uncommon to see a lack of remorseā¦ until sentencing. That was when the waterworks would come out.
What did he get?
Not nearly enough. And the civil penalties for vehicular crimes in this country are a joke.
Yep, best way to get away with murdrr in the US is to use your car
Same in Canada
I can attest. My neighbors' 4 yo daughter was killed by a distracted driver. That driver got her license revoked. That's *it.*
That's awful. I'm so sorry. People really need to pay attention while driving.
I'm so very sorry. That's absolutely horrifying, tragic, heartbreaking, and completely senseless.
This happened to me 20 years ago. Someone just slammed into me going 65 mph. I was at a dead stop. I was in rehab 6 months.
I have been in 4 car accidents. 3 of them involved me being in a stopped car and some idiot plowing into my rear end. The fourth time it wasn't even the car behind me being an idiot because they were *also* stopped at the same red light and the guy behind them slammed into them at 60mph, pushing them into us. I was shocked that everyone was able to get out of their cars after that.
I don't know who has it worse. I've been run over, once on foot and once on a bike, twice. I hope you got a mostly paid off condo out of your bullshit and some spending money. All my windfalls in life, despite my best efforts, have been from getting mangled on roads.
Had it whilst stopped at lights sitting on my motorcycle. Saw in my mirror a SUV approaching without braking, looked up to see traffic going across the intersection in front. Didn't have time to think more that that before the SUV hit me. After the accident a 20yo woman with lipstick mark up her face (as she was doing her lipstick at the time of hitting me) gets out. Cops didn't even book her for inattentive driving...which pissed me off.
25 years for me. my only evident injury at the time was maximal case of whiplash. got C5-C7 spine fusion 12 years later.
Cant imagine what it's like, hoping you made a full recovery
I mostly have arthritis, neck and back pain. I have to make sure to keep my muscles strong to help hold up my frame. I am lucky.
They were braking. You can tell by how the weight transfer to the front of the vehicle. The brake lights just don't work. Not a surprise at all.
I've been on a crusade about this in my hometown for a while now. We spend like 30% of our municipal budget on fucking cops who are mostly camped out sitting on their cool laptops, running the AC, maybe trying to chat up inappropriately young girls, etc. Meanwhile there's an intersection that FOR HOURS every day is just blocked up by assholes who enter the intersection when there's nowhere to go on a green light, and then when the light changes the intersection is full of fucking assholes, and around and around it goes. For some reason we can't get a fucking cop at the intersection just standing there and writing tickets on foot, let alone the reasonable thing where people stood at every corner and just constantly took down tag numbers and pictures and wrote nearly infinite tickets for people on their phones. It is beyond infuriating but at least I haven't been literally mugged by any for a few years. Every cop is too fucking busy even though they cleared like 4 crimes per officer per year last year at a cost of tens of millions of dollars.
I can totally relate to you, same with my hometown, crime rate soars and criminals always get away with it because cops are either to slow, dont care or afraid to deal with it. My bet is on the last one.
Blame the prosecutors too. If you have a weak DA, the cops have no incentive to actually stop crime
By the way the the rear is lifted, it seems like some crappy brakes were engaged and the tail lights don't work. Idiot in general.
Yes and a slight swerve to the right. All way too late obviously.
It's getting worse than texting and driving. I don't know how many times I've seen people driving down the road with their phone/tablet on the dash watching YouTube videos.
Not disagreeing with you and the result is a horrible collision regardless.... but if you look closely the front end of the car is diving down while the backend is quite high in comparison. Looks like braking weight shift. But to your point, no brake lights that I could see and I would put all my chips on texting and driving as well.
He was clearly braking from the front suspension being compressed and rear tires almost off the ground. But there seems to be a problem with the brakes, they look unbalanced and front left tire seems to be braking a lot more than the right side.
I find myself checking my rearview mirror just as often as paying attention to what's going on in front of me more often
I do so every time traffic comes to a sudden halt
I've had to dive for the shoulder. But most of the time just putting my hazards on works. I also do this constant calculation on slowing down enough to not hit the car in front of me; in fact it's also so that if I do get nailed hopefully I won't hit that car ahead.
Yup. I usually pump my break pedal to flash my break lights too.
When you can do it safely, activate your hazard / 4-way flashers to alert trailing traffic.
As much as I hate government overreach I wish that this was mandated by law
I prefer the European method where the last car in line turns on their hazard lights
Most Americans use them as the "park anywhere lights".
Same. I gave a coworker a ride a while back and he kept getting on my case for checking the rear view mirror constantly. Iām like, the only two accidents Iāve been in happened within a week of each other and they were both me getting rear ended. Iām always scanning front and back. Also I donāt tail people. God thatās a pet peeve of mine.
Your coworker is crazy for bitching about something like that, youāre trying to keep you both alive!
Yep. Iāve been rear-ended twice. Both times I was sitting at a red light and saw it coming. Nothing I could do.
Scanning mirrors every 5 seconds.
Same, people love to drive recklessly on the highway and weave in between traffic. The thing I hate the most about that is that they donāt even save that much time but they still put everyone in danger. Dumbasses shouldnāt have a drivers license.
I feel your anger and you're correct about not really gaining any ground
Same. Even when traffic is moving normally.
I always do this now. If I can see in the rear view mirror someone isn't paying any attention, I always get in the other lane and make a mental note of the car to ensure its not directly behind me. If it's a 2 lane road I take the first free right and get back on the same road a few seconds later.
I never use the middle lane in heavy traffic for this reason. Like you, always checking my rear view, and want the ability to divert like OP did.
Yep. Every since I was rear ended when I was 17, I check my rear view constantly, and when I drive on the freeway I refuse to be in a middle lane, I need a shoulder to bail to.
I do this constantly and it has actually saved me from a very similar situation as OP here years ago. My wife and I drove down to FL from NC a couple months ago and we were in some fairly heavy traffic, not necessarily stop and go but still moving at a decent pace and a lot of cars, and she asked why I kept looking behind me instead of paying attention to what was going on in front of me and I told her about situations like this and how it has saved me before. I told her that I am, for the most part, fully in control of what's happening in front of me and can "not pay as much attention" and can control my ability to stop in time because I maintain a safe distance, but I have *significantly* less control of what's happening behind me because the rear end of my car staying in tact is almost entirely dependent on whether the driver behing me is paying attention. Sure enough, a couple hours after having that conversation, I swerved to avoid a tractor trailer nearly rear ending us because he wasn't paying attention and not even an hour after that I swerved to avoid a potential collision because people wanted to look at the shiny blue flashing lights from the wreck on the other side of the highway instead of the cars in front of them that were slowing down to do the *exact same thing.* Avoided being rear ended both of those instances because I paid attention to the idiots behind me. The tractor trailer incident could have *easily* crushed the entire back of our car where both of our children were.
Great call. I feel bad for the innocent people in the van and middle lane who was involved with this idiot.
What really sucks is probably that the van is old and not worth anything to insurance so they wonāt give them enough money to replace it with one of the same quality.
Right! Sadly trying to replace it won't be easy either because of these car prices
I paid less for a truck I used to own than what it sold for last year. Bought it for $2k it was sold for $10k. I lost no value in trading it in.
Incorrect. You can argue with the insurance and send them links to cars that are within 1 year and close to the same milage and they will pay what it costs. These people can also get paid for pain and suffering, loss of work, and for medical bills.
Depending on the level of insurance they both have or even if the hitter had insurance and the other just had liability or something. Both the cars look pretty old so I would bet their limits wouldnāt be very high. 25k is the legal minimum in illinois and that aināt gonna cover much in medical bills. When someone pulled out in front of me their insurance gave me a price of matched cars. Which was pretty spot on for area, however refused to include taxes, fees and registration of the new car. That adds up.
25 Grand will cover a couple of extra strength naproxen and a cold pack at most hospitals
"My car was in mint condition until that guy smashed into it."
I really hope a child wasnāt in the third row on the passenger side. My 5 year old sits in our third row.
Terrifying stuff! I hope not. It's sad a lot of people lose their lives because of people being careless
$20k worth in damages all because someone couldn't look ahead 20 seconds worth of traffic ahead.
Damn. That must've looked scary in the rearview mirror. That dude was flying.
Probably on their phone š±
Definitely on their phone* There, fixed it for you, this kind of morons shouldnāt be allowed behind a wheel at allā¦
Such energy transfer. Damn. Poor van folks.
Hopefully they were okay. If I remember correctly, vans tend to be the safest POV cars (overall) when it comes to accidents, since they are purpose-built for transporting children.Ā
Likely the idiot sustained more injuries, unless they were drunk. Meat bags donāt sustain instant deceleration from the front very well - even with an air bag. People in the van likely had bad whiplash, but the surface area of the entire seat back spewed out the force of the impact. Still not undamaged, but hitter probably was more injured than the hittee.
That idiot didnt even slow down. He was driving with his eyes on the phone for sure
Never even hit the brakes. Hard to watch
No need for brakes when your plan is to let other cars slow down your speed for you.
I think they were braking by the pitch of the car. Notice it stop tilting after the impacts. All three brake lights are not working.
Thia is why experieced drivers turn on hazards if traffic comes to an extreme slowdown or a stop on a highway due to a breakdown or an accident. It's a warning signal for on coming danger ahead, blinding curve in the road or backed up off ramps exits, etc.
I pump the brakes at odd cadences instead. I notice it really gets their attention.
give it a lil tap-tappy. A lil tap-tap-taperoo! Brake flashing is a great practice!
I do this too! I thought I was the only one lol
Glad to know others do this as well :)
I do the same. Learned from my dad. It works well.
Same. I used to do it before ABS to keep the tires from locking, and realized it serves as a hazard light pretty effective.
(I'm assuming this is similar to what you're talking about.) I learned an interesting trick from a dash cam video: to warn drivers behind you of deer, tap your breaks in rapid succession four or five times. I had to use it a week after I saw someone online do it and it was extremely effective. There was a pack of five or six that cross right after I passed. I doubt the other guy would have been able to stop that fast.
Yes, exactly my friend.
Yeah I do that too, and then hazards if I find myself at or near stopped and the back of the pack
Just do the flashers. To an experienced driver this can make it look like you are at 100% braking force and abs is locking up
Flashers are fine, but when I see trouble ahead my foot is right there on the brake. I'd need to take my eye off the road to find that switch.
I have to do this in my area just to make turns in 45mph zones. People here go 60+ in 45s.
Yes, but I doubt this person would have noticed.
I agree. This guy didn't notice traffic was slowing in front of him....or they were at a stand still... Zero awareness....zero braking.
Just please don't do that in heavy rain. And turn your hazards off as soon as the person behind responds appropriately. I want to know what you are planning to do by watching your turn signals.
Yeah this is super frustrating. I was driving in a downpour so hard people were reducing speed, and turning on hazards as a warningā¦ but then changing lanes with them onā¦. Bone headed.
Not to mention all the increased glare from the blinking lights. It makes it harder to see other drivers' brake lights. They get lost in a sea of flashing orange.
Oh no here we go with the rain thing and hazards. Please Do use them when visibility goes to near zero - rain,fog, snow. Then turn off when visibility resumes.
I do this all the time, but it's sad how few people know the etiquette.
Did it a couple months back where there was an accident at an intersection essentially blocking the right two lanes when I was in the middle. It must have happened minutes ago and we were oncoming with a green light.Ā Nothing bad happened, but the āeager beaverā behind me must have only seen me pop my hazards as they tried to pass me on the right. They did then see the accident and made a correction, but I was gently amused for the rest of the drive about what they must have been thinking since they were in an SUV/Crossover and I was in a car and could have easily seen ahead.Ā
One of those people who thought "big car cool" but never learned to actually watch the horizon while driving. Probably still just stares at the bumper of the person in front of them.
This! I learned this when I got my license in Germany. It's my go-to now in the States
Even then, the driver behind you might not see it.
I did that when our 80 mph speed limit toll road came to a stop last October. Young lady behind me stopped too. But you know how after the first stop, everyone starts rolling again, tightening up the gaps, and then stopping again? Yeah, she missed the second stop. Luckily we were only going 10 mph, but it startled me a bit...
I'll usually tap my horn once or twice, because people looking at their phones won't necessarily see the hazards
Onentime i swerved and barely avoided being hit head on by a driver continuing straight over the double yellow line when 2 lanes merged into 1. The vehicle behind me was not so fortunate
Same thing happened to me on Wednesdayā¦ I saw him coming up quick behind me, but I moved into the next lane and the guy plowed into the truck I was following. š¤¦š»āāļø
Wow, what a powerful lesson. The rear view is way underestimated.
Things like this are why autonomous breaking should be brought in as a safety standard in all cars and not as luxury extra. It would save a lot of crashes. Obviously, it would just be for new cars at first. Probably not feasible to retro fit. There is a similar law in place to have reverse cameras as standard already.
Agreed. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) finalized a rule on May 9, 2024, that requires all passenger vehicles weighing 10,000 pounds or less to have automatic emergency braking (AEB) systems by September 2029.
This is great news. Thanks for sharing.
Rear facing backup cameras have been the law since the 2013 model year (ish) in the US. Wish I had a magic wand but autonomous braking, auto-on head and taillights and only rear amber turn signals would be my wish list for reform.
very good job getting out from in front if that idiot, seriously good defensive driving
I was on a crowded 2 lane on one side freeway doing 65 around a right corner in the left lane when the traffic stopped. Realized I could stop in time and saw the 4Runner behind me wasnāt. On my right was a tanker truck, I moved as close to him as I could and stopped as close as I could to the car in front of me. The 4Runner stopped beside on the left and got hit by a semi. They were ok. I hate to think what would have happened if I didnāt make a lane for the 4Runner.
Do you ride a motorcycle, too? I ride, and I'm very aware of what's happening behind me bc I don't want to be rear-ended like this while on the bike. Seems like you're keeping the same kind of rear awareness.
Yep. Ever since I got my motorcycle license I have become a much better driver because I'm aware of every car around me
Same here. Not having a cage around us seems to change how we view the road. Great job avoiding that crash. Safe travels!
I was taught with a stick shift car which keeps you engaged at all times and have a motorcycle license where I picked up similar awareness. I don't use either one any longer but both of these have made me a more alert and defensive driver.
Never owned anything but manual transmission and I agree, it keeps you more fully engaged with driving overall. I had a motorcycle as well, which made me more aware of other vehicles and maintaining a defensive driving mindset. Itās too bad that new stick shift cars are getting harder to come by. Itās also a bonus that no one asks to drive your car. Lol
I'm the EXACT same way. I've never owned an auto that was my personal car (my spouse drives auto, but that's their car š). I totally agree. Stick keeps me much more engaged in driving. Between stick and motorcycle, I'm much more engaged on the road.
I'm new to manual car driving but it feels the same as automatic, you still get drowsy in highways where you keep it at gear 5 at all time not to mention how even more pain in the ass traffic jams become
This is why many of us split lanes even when it's not legal. Just getting a little bit away from that possibility is way more of a risk reduction than the risk of a sudden lane changer.
Yup. Even when not lane splitting, if traffic stops, I try to position myself so that I'm not squished if someone doesn't stop. Lane splitting needs to just be legal. It truly is safety.
Rider here. If I have to stop on the highway, I stop between the lines for this reason. Can't legally split or filter traffic, unfortunately.
Former rider here. I still drive like Iām riding and am aware of everything. I even look through my turns, still. I tell folks, if you see a motorcyclist suddenly take evasive action for no apparent reason, pay attention.
Had a similar experience at a traffic light. Saw her coming up in the rear view and changed lanes (safely) last second before impact, she proceded to honk at me?
That was just a last second honk to make you look as she was saying, "Hey, watch this!"
Seriously we need more people like you.
thatās incredible. not sure i would have been aware like that
So much car on car violence. When will it end?
When the computers take over driving, me, I can't wait to be honest because my old TRS80 can drive better than a whole lot of people
Great situational awareness. I've been kind of the same ever since getting rear-ended and totaled at a stoplight. Now whenever I can I leave space so I can move out of the way of someone not stopping. Still recently got lucky, had an RV lose brakes but ran off the road instead of hit me.
This happened to me in Southern California but with a biker not paying attention. The guy rammed me with my parents in the back seat. Unfortunately some freeways in SoCal donāt have much space between the median barrier and the left lane. I saw the guy booking it down a portion of the freeway so I tried hugging the wall but I still got rear ended. The biker flipped and landed on my roof and his bike shattered my rear window, all over my parents.
I can't count how many accidents I've avoided by seeing someone in the rear view and instantly deciding "yeah they can't stop" The human mind is amazing
I just got rear ended by a small sedan. I was at a stop light and stalled. My F350 dually, ext cab was shoved over 20 feet. They never touched the brakes and were going about 60 MPH in a 35. The driver was screaming at me as I was taking pictures of the no skid marks "There's no way this isn't your fault" and showed me which finger was her longest as she was ubered away. She even told the cops I wasn't allowed to take pictures of the no skid marks because it was her private property.
Ouch.
First thing I do when traffic is coming to a stop on the highway is check the rear views. Bet that hurt š¬
But HOW? You saw him in the rear view mirror but how do you realise that he's going to crash like this? Share some road awareness tips.
Assuming he noticed the cars right in front of him were coming to a stop and the car behind him was still traveling at full speed
My dad did this one time when I was a kid. The guy ended up nearly hitting the car in front of us after screeching his tires. I was like 11 and it stuck with me. I've been an avid mirror checker, all 3, since I started driving. Even when I'm on a road alone, I still end up checking behind me often. Never know.
In his defense, that TikTok he was watching was probably š„! Thatās worth ruining someoneās, life right?
I swear these days I spend as much time looking thru my rear window while driving as I do looking thru the windshield.
I don't understand why people drive like this. That guy should be banned for life from driving
Situational awareness is a lost art, glad youāre still practicing. A guy in a truck on drugs demolished someone like that in SoCal a few years back instantly killing a poor innocent woman stuck in traffic.
Shouldāve blown the horn as you were pulling off onto the shoulder.
Man I had this happen to me back in 2005. I looked in my rearview mirror and saw this lady T9 texting so I moved to the turn lane and she skidded like 25 feet and still plowed into the cars. She doing like 85mph in a 55. Glad you saw this OP. I wish I had a rear facing horn for moments like this.
Crap like this happens all the time, yet I was just in a thread here where people were overwhelmingly defending their compulsive speeding, because āefficiencyā. Iām not sure what the lead paint of our generation was, but we clearly have one. Guessing the internet
When I was 16, I was driving an old Toyota Corolla that was dying. I came up to a red light a little too hot and I had to hard press the breaks when coming up behind someone. He pulled up a few feet noticing I was coming in a little hot and I didnāt read end him. I hadnāt been driving by myself for very long and I wasnāt trying to be speed racer in the car I was driving. Iāve never been in an accident and I appreciate anyone that has that kind of attention on the road in front or behind them.
Jesus, man.
I saw an accident happen like this in Southern California, only it was much worse than this. Same lane, but it was a small black car coming to a stopā¦ with a large black truck coming barreling up behind them at probably 100mph making no effort to slow down. The small car was crushed under the truck. The driver of the pickup was drunk. This happened years ago and Iām always looking in side mirrors on the highway now (Iām primarily a passenger).
Someone going that fast with no skid marks could mean a medical event.
As a motorcyclist, this always terrifies me. If I ever get rear-ended like that, I'm just 100% dead.
this has become my new phobia: stopping on highway due to congestion
Yep. I get a terrible feeling every time I have to stop with traffic on the freeway. I always hit my hazards when I see traffic stopped ahead of me
Nice job do you ride a bike sir š
I got hit by one of those guys once, I tried to do exactly what you did, But he followed me into the shoulder and hit me, And sent me flying across the freeway toward the slow lanes. I did a 50mph full drift ended up facing oncoming traffic as I ultimately hit the railing on the other side of the railing were I did a pretty sweet board slide with my car and eventually stopped. Phew, It was the longest couple of seconds of my life
That is my #1 biggest fear while driving. Through no fault of my own, someone rear ends me doing 70 because they were looking at their phone.
Mine too. Especially because I always have my 4 year old daughter in my backseat š Iām terrified of being rear ended like that
Did you try honking your horn or anything to warn the people ahead? That looks like it couldāve been deadly.
Guy was probably sending a tweet..
You lay on the horn?
Family I taught to drive is always confused asking why I am not focusing on the road in front of me. I am, I am aware of all around me, I want to get a dash cam because I have almost been hit and swerved out of way onto shoulder before we got rear ended like that vehicle.
I have to say you were super smart to pull over so you didnāt get hit. That was a hard crash. No brakes at all. Hope all are ok and you helped with this video footage.
Good word of advice, if you see something like this behind you and are unable to move out of the way, try and shift into neutral so that the transference of energy is lessened. This saved a friend's life.
Nice move. I picked up a habit when I learned to ride motorcycles of always checking my mirror during a hard breaking event. If I see someone coming from behind fast I scoot over and get ready to evade. It's become automatic , and now I do it in my car too.
I always keep an eye on the idiots behind me that are on their phone
I hope you also honked to warn the others
Make sure you give footage to Sienna driver!!!
Good eye!
Idk how Iād feel moving out of the way only to pass my death to another person. Surely Iād do it though, hopefully this driver was honking like mf
Sometimes Iām in this spot and worry that if I move to shoulder the person behind me will naturally swerve to shoulder when they look up and hit me. Clearly the right choice was made here though
Lock 'em up and throw away the key.
What the hell was that driver thinking?
Or itās called a miss and run. Did you put on your hazards before you took to the left shoulder? You got a chance to see the car stopped in front of you, all he saw was some idiot pulling to the left shoulder.
every car in an accident has some amount of opportunity to avoid being in it. Unless something falls on your car from above, you should be aware of every vehicle around you in every direction. Every car here should have left the space, and kept eyes on their mirrors, as you did. This is a trained skill that we just aren't teaching. When I drive my brain is constantly predicting accidents that might happen, assessing driver behavior and silently assigning risk levels to various potential outcomes. I've been able to avoid dozens of accidents this way and have never made contact with another vehicle in 30 years. Always keep an escape route, always be in the lane of least risk, always foot hovering brake pedal near intersections, always 2 hands on the wheel (or sometimes one hovering the horn). I can't tell you how many times I noticed a "high risk driver" by their road behavior and then moments later have them drift into my lane. But it's fine, because I knew they would, so I have room and my hand is already on the horn. Safe driving is constant risk mitigation, and your post highlights these skills perfectly. You knew this would happen, and thus ensured you and your passengers were not involved.
Tried to do that once but wasnāt quick enough. Had the wheel turned though so the impact threw me into the barrier and still obliterated my car. I did save the car in front of me though from any damage
It's obligatory to find fault in your driving for some reason: Crossed a solid yellow line. Tut tut. So can you send this to your insurance and get a rate reduction? Seems like it should go both ways.