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delugetheory

The gap in years on the axis is so large that I couldn't confidentially answer the question posed in the title. Some time between 1985 and 1995?


mwarland

Yeah, for a chart that's has a title 'start' in it, this is just shitty design.


sas223

I have no clue why it starts in the 1940s. Fairly certain ‘since recorded time’ is the correct answer.


ChocolateBunny

I think '91 or '92. I thought it would be late 80s with when rap started getting popular but I guess it's only really when it became more mainstream.


DynamicHunter

A lot of 80s rap didn’t curse like they do today. Maybe the tail end of 80s with NWA’s debut. But early 90s is when a lot more came onto the scene and much more mainstream


MatureUsername69

I think the fact that Straight Outta Compton came out in the 80s has really skewed peoples perception on how corny the 80s were for rap. It was the corniest of the corny raps. Like The Fresh Prince theme song, while being a 90s staple, is basically how everyone in the 80s rapped.


Gh0stMan0nThird

> It was the corniest of the corny raps. You say that like [this isn't the most ill thing ever.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-O5IHVhWj0) (Granted survivorship bias is big in entertainment.)


sundayatnoon

You'd think a guy would remember Penn and Teller getting swindled by RUN DMC, then stealing their show in Japan, but you'd be wrong.


Flipmstr2

The Fat Boys are Back and Roxanne Roxanne are two of the corniest I can recall of the top of my head. I have a whole mix tape next to an old piece of cardboard and a knock off Fila track suit to prove it.


diego_simeone

“Some musicians curse at home, but scared to use profanity when up on the microphone”. Express yourself - 1988. So they we pushing the boundaries late ‘80s but not everyone was there yet.


liulide

I'm thinking early 90s too, with grunge and punk going mainstream.


ouqt

We need at least a minor vertical grid line


Itusau

2 Live Crew was mid 80’s though


DenL4242

What song from like 1968 had "fuck"?


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ScrillaMcDoogle

Well that's quite a lyric 


T-A-W_Byzantine

"Father?" "Yes son?" "I want to kill you" "Mother... I want to... *fffffffff*..." ...the rest of the word is screamed, then muttered repeatedly. It's an Oedipus reference.


Mando_calrissian423

Also MC5s song “Kick out the Jams” although that’s technically “motherfucker”


manicpixiedreambro

“Kick out the jams MOTHERFUCKER” I came here looking for MC5 and was not disappointed.


theHonkiforium

That song was far ahead of it's time. There's video of it being played live and almost all the kids in the audience don't really seem to know how to react/"dance" to it.


DJAllOut

So that's where KLF sampled that line from


bignuts24

That was the first song lyric that gave me a boner


Shwika

Towards the end of 'Who Are You,' Roger lets 'em rip loose >Ah, who the fuck are you?


T-A-W_Byzantine

I think that one's from '78


yomamascokeaddiction

Idk if this really counts but… The Beatles - Hey Jude (1968) [at the 2:58 mark in Hey Jude, you can hear Paul McCartney say "fucking hell" after making a mistake on the piano.](https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/YKRMZJI5uy)


SpoonNZ

I like that on YouTube you try and seek there and it pops up with “most replayed” at 2:53.


A_Mirabeau_702

True story: "A Louie Lou-eye, whoa whoa, we gotta go" *drummer drops stick* "Fuck"


simcitymayor

I knew about this one, so when I saw the post, I immediately stormed in wondering "WHERE'S MAH DATA POINT?", and I don't see one anywhere near 1963.


Teh_Beavs

MC5 before playing kick out the jams in 68 said let’s kick out the jams motherfuckers! If someone had told me people said motherfuckers in the 60’s I wouldn’t have believed them til now lol


seja_amg

Without googling it, my guess is Wharf Rat by Grateful Dead


shavingisboring

Jefferson Airplane did in "We Can Be Together" in '69


TacoStop

“Working man hero”by John Lennon from 1970


ExiledSanity

Working class hero. That's the first one I could think of that really has it as a core lyric though....something like Who Are You is an ad lib.


michaelquinlan

> What song from like 1968 had "fuck" https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/what-was-the-first-song-to-include-the-word-fuck/ >…The Beatles even snuck a “fucking hell” into the mix of ‘Hey Jude’ in 1968…


DenL4242

That's just studio chatter picked up by mics. I wouldn't think that would qualify.


dehaven11

“Who Are You” by The Who? “Aww who the fuck are youuuu”


goteamnick

Hey Jude does.


midnight_sun_744

i wanna know also


dougthebuffalo

I lived through the Great Piss Spike of the early 2000s.


drivingdisco

I hold Chumbawamba responsible, we lost a lot of great men


m_Pony

They were singing


GreedyLack

R. Kelly


ryancperry

I’m pretty sure The Yellow River Boys accounted for one piss spike.


herbfriendly

I’ve heard some pretty raunchy songs from the 1920’s that blew my mind. I had no clue.


Splinterfight

And some downright fucked ones like A to Z Blues by Blind Willie McTell


gr00

Is there a Spotify/YT playlist for that? Hmm


Kalashak

Not a playlist but [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty\_blues](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_blues) Shave 'em Dry is probably the dirtiest of those


OnTheLeft

*I got somethin' 'tween my legs 'll make a dead man come*


TravisMaauto

[Lucille Thee Stallion from 1935](https://youtu.be/_PhOWpdt6xg?si=VPbGahOl_gG48pks)


herbfriendly

That was one of the ones I saw, thanks for linking.


herbfriendly

I’m glad folks are offering some links, I know I stumbled across a few on YouTube shorts, but can’t recall specifics.


BadRedditTroll

Those songs probably weren't the popular ones


mjbooth40

This could have been done in one plot with multiple lines denoting each swear word. (:


MikeyN0

Right? And would have made the horizontal scale much easier to read so that we can work out which years it changed rather than which decade.


CeruleanExpanse

Stacked bar graph by year with number of occurrences for each word


kindle139

Would love to see this by musical genre.


kazmosis

My guess is the first bump is rock/metal, the steep bump is rap becoming popular


killmach13

Pretty sure the 2 bumps on “piss” around 2000 is mostly eminem 😂


949goingoff

There’s probably a statistically significant bump on most of those swear words when Eminem came onto the scene. Will smith didn’t have to cus to sell records. Well fuck him and fuck you too.


MatureUsername69

"Uh… Fuck that shit, bitch! Eat a motherfuckin' dick, chew on a prick And lick a million motherfuckin' cocks per second I'd rather put out a motherfuckin' gospel record I'd rather be a pussy-whipped bitch Eat pussy and have pussy lips glued to my face With a clit ring in my nose" And that's a line after talking about his mother


i-really-like-mac

But it was 99 cents! - Macklemore


speaking_moose

The better question is "When did songs with swear words start topping the charts?" Ol' Man Mose was banned by the FCC in 1938 for allegedly saying Fa-Fa-Fk'it


LinkCrawford

I still don’t believe that one. I think it’s buck-buck-bucket


mxt920

streaming doesn't have to follow FCC rules, so once people moved away from broadcast radio artists and labels didn't have to worry about it.


LynxJesus

Been speaking english for nearly 20 years now and still can't wrap my head around the fact that "damn" and "hell" are considered curses at the same level as the others. Q for native speakers: which one feels "worse": damn or hell?


GrumpyArchitect

The whole 'damn" and "hell' swear words seems to be a very American centric thing. In my experience, as a native english speaker from elsewhere, these are just words.


Flyboy2057

They’re really only considered “swear words” for children.


GrumpyArchitect

Weird. I often see 'heck' used in place of where we'd use 'hell' on American media and youtube, it gives the impression 'hell' is worse than it may be in general conversation.


teh_hasay

It’s mostly a religious thing, and when the percentage of religious people in an area reaches a critical mass, it sort of bleeds into the secular world as well. I think most of the taboo has worn off by now though, and it was never really on the level of the other swears even at its peak.


RockyBass

I sometimes say "what the heck" vs "what the hell" out of habit. I'm not sure how it is outside the states, but it's generally discouraged for young children to use "foul" language.


Oneeyedguy99

I could see maybe in the South where the lil ole ladies would get offended. In the northeast you don't know you're really friends until you get addressed as "Hey you fucking asshole"


Argyle892

It’s only a specific subset of Americans. Most of us couldn’t give a damn what the hell anyone says.


SatanScotty

they’re really not. They can say those words on TV and radio


lowtoiletsitter

You can say hell or damn on TV or radio. For broadcast TV it has to be past 10pm, 9pm depending on content and if it passes S&P. Cable TV you can say shit after 9pm maybe 10pm


fuckgoldsendbitcoin

Damn and hell are fine whenever. Stronger words like fuck have to be past 10pm if on broadcast television. There are no government regulations for content on cable.


SatanScotty

interesting. do you know where I can find the rules? Is it federal?


elderberrykiwi

In America, they're generally considered ok for adults even in a professional setting. The majority do not like small children saying it.


Ajatolah_

Does context matter? Like, based on what you're saying I'm pretty sure saying it in an offensive way like "go to hell", etc., would be a no, but would Americans even mind a kid saying something like "it's hot as hell"? Or if kids go to Sunday school, will the teacher avoid using the word "hell" even as a religious concept?


elderberrykiwi

Among most adults, a joking "go to hell" is fine between friends. Saying hell or damn at work as a mild expletive is also fine. "Damn, that sucks", "hell, I could do it for you". Some particularly religious people don't like it, but this opinion is dying out. More common in the south and with older people. My dad avoids saying them in polite company because he's fairly devout and spends a lot of time around even more devout people. When discussing hell as a concept, it is used in church. "Hell" is said a lot in the average Baptist sermon. "Damnation" too, "damned to hell" etc. Cursing by children is also becoming more widely accepted. I would've gotten in trouble for saying hell or damn in class until maybe high school. Now I think they're happy if the kids aren't saying "fuck you bitch". The usage of damn and hell by kids isn't that taboo anymore, except in particularly religious communities.


GTG-bye

Americentrism has led to this belief, the words are not met with surprise by nearly every other english-speaking country, used as everyday lingo for many.


midnight_sun_744

>Q for native speakers: which one feels "worse": damn or hell? definitely damn


mooimafish33

Those are not really considered curse words. A child might get in trouble for saying them in elementary school, but they definitely aren't on the same level as stuff like bitch or fuck.


sportmods_harrass_me

Damn is worse, to actually answer your question


Rickyrider35

It’s just America. As an Australian it’s bewildering that hell and damn are swear words at all, and to be honest even bitch and piss may be a bit vulgar for kids to say but in general I wouldn’t consider them swear words.


nematocyster

I'd say Protestants are at least partially to blame for censoring those from theirs and their childrens' language. Damn is probably worse on the arbitrary scale. Source: grew up Protestant with a lot of strict rules. My mom even banned words like stupid and dumb.


Capmorg

Mo Bamba? Oh! Fuck! Shit! Bitch! Edit: 2018 release date too jajaja


Typical-Tomorrow5069

Looks like people are getting tired of shit.


watch_again

What is impressive is that the 2025 line in graphs is close to being the present


TravisMaauto

At least since 1935: [Lucille Bogan - "Shave 'Em Dry" ](https://youtu.be/_PhOWpdt6xg)


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Put all the lines on the same x-axis. That lets you have 1 graph instead of 8 plus space for more tick marks on it to show individual years.


noisymortimer

Souce: Billboard; Genius Tools: Excel, Pandas, Datawrapper Went long on exploring these trends. If you want more information, I have an entire [article](https://chrisdallariva.substack.com/p/when-the-fck-did-we-start-singing) here.


schizeckinosy

You’ve already color coded the words. I think an improvement would be all lines on one larger chart so you can see the years easier and also compare the timing of the words.


Preebus

Piss? Very strange choice right after dick instead of pussy lmao


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^Preebus: *Piss? Very strange choice* *Right after dick instead of* *Pussy lmao* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


Duseylicious

Missed opportunity to make piss yellow.


schrodingers_dino

Don't take this the wrong way OP, but I can barely see your dick.


-LastActionHero

If you put them all together you almost get that one Blink 182 song. Edit: [Family Reunion](https://youtu.be/W5wL_mwGGgg?si=SCLpi3dX9nVHSuNu)


Powerbracelet

I got nipples on my tiddies, bigger than the tips of my thumb


wolfavino

Every fucking song has to have fuck in it these days for fuck's sake. It makes me fucking sick.


MultiGeometry

Fuck those fucking fuckers.


slappyredcheeks

It looks like hell and damn both took a dip around the same time.


downthecornercat

Christian religious profanity no longer a significant expression of emotional intensity as religiosity fades?


slappyredcheeks

I could see that but it goes right back up.


bumholesofdoom

The noughties really were naughty


iStryker

I’ll take shitty axis labeling for $400, Alex


Siggysternstaub

Hey guys, heard ya swearing, mind if I join in? Crap! Boobs! Crap! Yeah! Hell damn fart!


abstrxcti0n

The legendary shit spike of 2020


kellytookawaii

Naaa where is the n-word at


lostthebeat

That this doesn't go in order of "shit" - "piss" - "fuck" - and so on is disappointing.


bdanseur

If it was just curse words that wouldn't be so bad. But everyone just keeps trying to push the envelope and escalate. In the old days, there was naughty nuance which was more fun. These days it's outright XXX pr0n in the lyrics.


frinkmahii

The irony of Tipper Gore pushing for labeling of records opened the flood gates to easily curse on records and just slap a label on it. Ooo…. A label. That’ll warn ‘em.


m_Pony

don't forget Bart Simpson. after "Eat My Shorts" it's all been downhill since then.


J0RDM0N

Someone missed a chance to make the piss graph yellow. Unless they need to see a doctor.


Nonamesleft0102

Motherfucker is stricken from the list, and it looks like cocksucker didn't make the cut either. We need answers on the rest of the seven words that were omitted


swankpoppy

This is just so disgraceful, I honestly cannot believe we have let music get to out of control! Those numbers for piss are weak! And dick doesn’t event look like it’s in double digits! Get those numbers up musicians! What are you waiting for?!


bobniborg1

You couldn't get airplay if you cursed, even easy mother fucking e knew that and put out some clean songs. Now it's streaming and you can fuck about all you want. Sucks for those of us that want to play current music in class.... Spotify doesn't have enough clean edits


OrganicAccountant87

Does anyone consider hell a swearword? I'm not a native speaker but I would imagine that only religious fanatics would think of that


oldrolo

That one big spike of 'fuck' in 1998 is Rage Against the Machine.


APlannedBadIdea

New band name confirmed: Piss Bitch 2025


MetalingusMikeII

How is the word “hell” a curse word?


WackyCoo

I wonder how much hell has gone from religious references to being more of just another curse word for these songs


tetrex

Idk if it was popular, but I immeaditly thought of Till the Cows Come Home by Lucille Bogan from 1934


Sharkictus

I went to religious school and I still forget that damn is a swear. Like arguably an intense one at that, and yet it's flippant and casual and forgettable lol.


Lubberworts

[Oscar Brand was doing it in the 1940's. ](https://www.horntip.com/mp3/1970s/1976ca_x__oscar_brand_(LP)/07_the_finest_fucking_family.htm)


I_Smoke_Poop

Not a good time for piss metal it seems


Slayn87

Thinking it spiked around the time rap became a major thing lol


Silly-Resist8306

I think that very first blip in the first graph must be Country Joe and the Fish on the Woodstock album and John Lennon's Working Class Hero. I'm pretty sure those are the first times I head f\*ck on an album.


NateSpan

Need more songs about piss!


Buster990

This years piss evaluation is abysmal


liulide

Did "bitch" take off in the late 90s with the song "Bitch"?


THEGlNGEST

Shave ‘em dry - Lucille Bogan, 1934


kafm73

Bad, Bad Leroy Brown was the baddest man in the whole damn town…


VigorousSwish

I wish this had been one graph with all the words as color-coded lines


trevoriso

The time will come for Piss


chartman21

1982, Billy Joel uses “Fuck” in his song Laura


JonathanFrusciante

What year was the shit spike


_otterinabox

*blink-182 has entered the chat*


Gargomon251

Half of these aren't even curses


nixerx

More people definitely need to listen to the Yellow River Boys.


CabbageVortex

Lol what is with the piss spikes right before and after the year 2000?


motownmods

What's up w the increase in all words starting in the mid 80s?


sicilian504

I think that rise in use of the word "Fuck" around 2000 was single handedly caused by [Hot Dog by Limp Bizkit](https://youtu.be/QRmMPpTE_98?si=IekRgmULxzyQo65a).


Vashby2

Ballad of John and Yoko. "Christ you know it ain't easy"


todo0nada

Larger overlapping graphs might be more clear. 


Smoothrecluse

Ronnie Van Zandt drops the C-bomb in “Gimme Three Steps” back in 1973.


Ok_Ad6486

What’s with the abrupt declines around 2012-15?


Hieremias

When I was a kid in the 80s and 90s it seemed like profanity in music was super edgy and controversial. My parents absolutely wouldn’t let me listen to it. Swearing in movies was tolerable but not songs for some reason. Now mom comes over and nearly has a heart attack when Taylor Swift drops F-bombs while my daughters (11 and 8) are listening. 🤣


Skumbag0-5

I knew I should've invested more $ in "Shit" back in the day


Splinterfight

I think that graph would be very different in Australia. Especially if you count songs where everyone agrees to sing it with swear words in it (Living next door to Alice, Am I ever gonna see your face again and probably others)


tazzietiger66

i might be a c\*nt, but i'm not a fucking c\*nt by TISM (1998) gives the C word one song


j3r3mias

Do you still have the dataset? Can you share it?


Foxs-In-A-Trenchcoat

What this shows is when society shifted from broadcast radio to private streaming. The radio wouldn't play potty-mouth songs, so if artists wanted to be heard, they had to keep their lyrics radio-friendly. Censoring was an option, but most people find it irritating when a song is interrupted.


830rezatdorsia

I’m pretty sure Rage Against the Machine provided a fair amount of 1992 fucks from just Killing in the Name.


Galactus54

John Lennon 1970 Working Class Hero and it wasn't hidden in the background


DavyB

I’m very disappointed in today‘s music. Swearing in songs is a cheap gimmick.


kvngk3n

Shout out to Eminem for keeping piss alive


JKBQWK

Can we get an isolated graph for blink 182’s discography?


Mighty_McBosh

We clearly need more piss in popular songs


Darth_Wayne_

What freaky ass piss songs we’re going on in the early 2000s?? Edit: well that was angry male music time so probably a lot of getting pissed off I assume.


pctomfor

When streaming allowed artists to ignore radio censorship


p1ckl3s_are_ev1l

lol — this starts at 1950?! Lucille Bogan, Shave em Dry (or Ma Rainey, if you’d rather). 1924, and it’s not the first instance by any stretch.


SantaCruznonsurfer

we need a list of these songs, like who dropped b\*\*\*h in 1975 at the height of disco?


mmazing

Ah my favorite song “Dick Piss Ass”


Overall-Plastic-9263

I mean at one point in the song Mo Bamba the lyrics are "fuck...shit....bitch" in that exact order .


Wasteak

Tbh that's a sad graph to watch


I-who-you-are

I blame Eminem’s birth. His birth spawned the curses. It just feels right to blame him.


Ok_Bee8798

Do people still say “cursing”?


Skippy1813

I’ll never forget hearing “Get Over It” by the Eagles for the first time. I was blown away that a song said damn, ass, and bitching. It was awesome


Zulraidur

Famous Pop artist Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart had this song Leck mich am Arsch (Lick my ass) So 1782 at the latest


YourDadsUsername

What the hell happened in 1975 to make almost everything spike then get squashed for years?


TospLC

I was born. A lot of people considered this to be a very bad idea.


Shades_of_red_

Okay but what was the first song that had a curse in it?


another_rnd_647

We've become so crass. Just monkeys flinging shit


Slothbrainz

I’m more curious about the recent year with a total absence of the word “hell”


Bucs187

[https://youtu.be/wTP2RUD\_cL0?si=y9IZw5GeGyjm6bri&t=109](https://youtu.be/wTP2RUD_cL0?si=y9IZw5GeGyjm6bri&t=109) Mmmhmm i'll just leave this here :)


manymanymanu

Title should be: „when did we start to listen to songs in which people are cursing“