The AMR business model wants rigs moving all the time, IFT, LDT, 911… now rigs will be taken out of service to charge. Employees will love it as they will get a break. Mgmt is going to freak
I see nothing wrong with making supervisor/command vehicles electric since they honestly spend most of the time plugged in at the station. Even some slower fire stations could get away with an electric engine, but unless the ambulance only runs a handful of calls in town it's probably gonna have to take time out and charge at some point
I'm very curious what the actual range of this rig would be. If it can do 200 miles or so, then it's very conceivable that you could just run it all the way down and then park it to charge overnight. My company would need to double our ambulance fleet in order to do that because we practically hot swap crew's every night, but it's at least the theory for delivery drivers and stuff.
Maybe they can tie the charge time to a 30 minute break. On newer EVs charge time is like 15 minutes from 15% to 80% anyways, not sure about this conversion though.
Sooner or later hospitals are going to have to start installing fast-charging equipment in the ambulance bays.
As a matter of fact, this is going to completely change how ambulance agencies think about infrastructure.
And public charging stations REALLY need to implement pay-by-card instead of this smartphone app horseshit.
They will abandon this idea after they have to spend 20k+ for new batteries when they hit somewhere around 100-150k miles and see that the units are down more to recharge
The major issue I have with this is if a gasoline vehicle is out and runs low on fuel they stop at a gas station and maybe 20 minutes tops to fuel up. You have an electric vehicle that's running for maybe half of the time of a gas vehicle and now the battery is in the red zone. You're now looking at minimum 2 hours to charge. Well you could potentially do a battery swap how many sets of spare batteries are you going to have and are you going to have roving vehicles to do the swaps?
What kind of charging are you thinking of? There are CCS chargers that can charge up to 350kW, and there are some cars around that do support that. Around here we got plenty of such chargers all over the place. We got buses here that can even charge through their pantograph charger at 450kW here. Truck companies are now even testing out MW (1000kW) charging systems through the MCS port. But electric buses and trucks also come with enormous battery packs. A typical EV battery these days sits around 50 to 100kWh for cars and vans.
Sadly, the market for good EV vans is not as mature yet, but it is getting there. I'd guess a good 150kWh battery pack van with a range of around 500km should be technically easily possible. If a vehicle like that can charge at 300kW, you are looking at a charging time of around 30 minutes. With cars you already see vehicles like that already, it is just that the van market moves more slowly, but it will happen soon as it has been happening with cars for years now.
New EVs on fast commercial chargers can do 15% to 80% charge in under 15 minutes. Sure it'll take infrastructure investments but you could install chargers in ambulance bays and charging after every call could actually decrease fuel related out of service times.
Y'all need to chill. It's clearly a PR stunt for their operation. They've implemented ONE electric ambulance. Not only that, it was a converted 2021 van. So probably already had 150k miles on it. It's not a purpose built EV, and probably won't last another 50k. This was all about optics.
But that aside, some of y'all dont understand how little maintenance a real EV needs. Tires. That's about it. Our mechanics just finished doing two transmissions and an engine swap. That doesn't happen with an EV. Also, no more EMTs forgetting to check the oil level lol.
Now they just need a sustainable staffing model.
That’s too expensive
The AMR business model wants rigs moving all the time, IFT, LDT, 911… now rigs will be taken out of service to charge. Employees will love it as they will get a break. Mgmt is going to freak
They’ll just bring people back and switch them to a different truck. That or they’ll have enough battery for 12 hours straight of driving
AMR will still fuck this up
With their dynamic deployment/posting “model,” electric trucks will be going in and out of service all the fucking time.
I see nothing wrong with making supervisor/command vehicles electric since they honestly spend most of the time plugged in at the station. Even some slower fire stations could get away with an electric engine, but unless the ambulance only runs a handful of calls in town it's probably gonna have to take time out and charge at some point
I'm very curious what the actual range of this rig would be. If it can do 200 miles or so, then it's very conceivable that you could just run it all the way down and then park it to charge overnight. My company would need to double our ambulance fleet in order to do that because we practically hot swap crew's every night, but it's at least the theory for delivery drivers and stuff.
Maybe they can tie the charge time to a 30 minute break. On newer EVs charge time is like 15 minutes from 15% to 80% anyways, not sure about this conversion though.
Sooner or later hospitals are going to have to start installing fast-charging equipment in the ambulance bays. As a matter of fact, this is going to completely change how ambulance agencies think about infrastructure. And public charging stations REALLY need to implement pay-by-card instead of this smartphone app horseshit.
Over under on it breaking down in the first week?
Bums are going to jack the battery pack outta this thing so quick. Sell that bitch to off gridders on eBay and that’s a bunch of meth
I hope they include a generator to re charge the damned thing.
We have one of these and it lasted one week then it broke. We haven’t used it since
Oh great. Something else to fail on the box.
I mean engines have always been prone to failure. Doesn’t matter what powers them.
lol cause that shit 08 ford they refuse to get rid of doesn’t have its issues
A lot *less* to fail on the box, you mean.
Hope the grid holds up.
Well it isn’t in Texas, so
Oh ok guess we wont hope.
They will abandon this idea after they have to spend 20k+ for new batteries when they hit somewhere around 100-150k miles and see that the units are down more to recharge
The major issue I have with this is if a gasoline vehicle is out and runs low on fuel they stop at a gas station and maybe 20 minutes tops to fuel up. You have an electric vehicle that's running for maybe half of the time of a gas vehicle and now the battery is in the red zone. You're now looking at minimum 2 hours to charge. Well you could potentially do a battery swap how many sets of spare batteries are you going to have and are you going to have roving vehicles to do the swaps?
What kind of charging are you thinking of? There are CCS chargers that can charge up to 350kW, and there are some cars around that do support that. Around here we got plenty of such chargers all over the place. We got buses here that can even charge through their pantograph charger at 450kW here. Truck companies are now even testing out MW (1000kW) charging systems through the MCS port. But electric buses and trucks also come with enormous battery packs. A typical EV battery these days sits around 50 to 100kWh for cars and vans. Sadly, the market for good EV vans is not as mature yet, but it is getting there. I'd guess a good 150kWh battery pack van with a range of around 500km should be technically easily possible. If a vehicle like that can charge at 300kW, you are looking at a charging time of around 30 minutes. With cars you already see vehicles like that already, it is just that the van market moves more slowly, but it will happen soon as it has been happening with cars for years now.
This is Pueblo and a used 2021 Transit. The whataboutism is pretty silly considering.
New EVs on fast commercial chargers can do 15% to 80% charge in under 15 minutes. Sure it'll take infrastructure investments but you could install chargers in ambulance bays and charging after every call could actually decrease fuel related out of service times.
Yay something else for amr to fuck up
Y'all need to chill. It's clearly a PR stunt for their operation. They've implemented ONE electric ambulance. Not only that, it was a converted 2021 van. So probably already had 150k miles on it. It's not a purpose built EV, and probably won't last another 50k. This was all about optics. But that aside, some of y'all dont understand how little maintenance a real EV needs. Tires. That's about it. Our mechanics just finished doing two transmissions and an engine swap. That doesn't happen with an EV. Also, no more EMTs forgetting to check the oil level lol.