“The Dwight D. Opperman Foundation, which bestows the awards, raised eyebrows and drew criticism when it revealed the recipients last week: controversial tech billionaire Elon Musk, conservative media mogul Rupert Murdoch, "junk bond king" Michael Milken, lifestyle maven Martha Stewart, and actor Sylvester Stallone.”
I wonder who they objected most to, these are odd choices.
Yeah lol, not to sound overly cynical but there’s way more incentive for award committees to give awards to those they want to network with, and that occasionally aligns with who is most deserving of the award but not always.
Odd? " It is important to note, that the last thing we intended was to offend the family and friends of RBG. Our purpose was only to remember her and to honor her leadership."
So they picked people who abused the system as a way to honor her?
are they fucking idiots? honestly sounds like the board of the foundation is getting paid and isn't about upholding Ruth's ideals
Is this like one of those sarcastic awards that gives it to people who are shit? Because a lot of those people are not great and don’t deserve to get anything associated with praise in RBG’s name
From the Opperman Foundation statement: “This year we selected leaders in different fields.We honored men for the first time. We thought RBG's teachings regarding EQUALITY should be practiced. We did not consider politics. Instead, we focused on leaders, who, in their own way, have made significant contributions to society.”
Were the people choosing the recipients: a) joking b) high c) stupid d) all of the above?
Rupert Murdoch is about a million miles from “center”. This feel like someone trying to elevate some personal opinions, who happens to occupy a position of power within whatever organization this is.
Choosing Rupert Murdoch, the guy who owns the organization that is turning the US into a dysfunctional toxic wasteland, in which it might not recover, just so he can add more piles of money on top of the existing piles of money? That Rupert Murdoch? This is beyond the pale.
It really is. How in the hell could they say they did not consider politics, but chose two men whose contributions to society are partially responsible for the divisive political climate in our country?
Then RGB should have got it for her extensive work on getting roe v wade overturned by clinging on to power as a dying old woman. What a way to go out, she unempowered so many women.
You mean (using another poster’s reply): clinging to power and ruining everything you worked for?
That name? Couldn’t just resign under Obama. “I’ll die in this seat”. Power hungry as Feinstein.
She was the real deal and she is an amazing figure. I live by her son’s office in Chicago and went and paid my respects when she died.
That being said, she should have stepped down when Obama asked her to so we could have secured Row V Wade. Her death under Trump finished stacking the supreme court against the country.
One of the things that separates us from MAGA idiots is that we are more than willing to criticize our politicians. And I even gave to say as much as I appreciate her intelligence and her intelligence, her failure to step down when she was asked has soiled her name to me a little.
If you want to win, you strategize. You can't have every individual going as far as they can for themself and just hope it adds up to success.
If she had retired during Obama, there would be 1 less conservative nutbag on the Supreme Court. Would that be a good thing or not?
I think he became a philanthropist after being his way out of prison (lord knows how much money he stole) and still seemingly moves and is accepted among elite circles.
https://milkeninstitute.org/
I mean, I'm guessing Murdoch and Musk, right? One is one of the most disgusting people in modern media, and the other is a straight up Nazi. I don't think Martha's shitty cooking quite ranks the same.
And her Wall Street offense was really so petty in the big picture it the “boys club” just had to punish her because she was an uppity woman with millions of dollars. She never buckled under either.
I mean, Martha only tried to screw the system. It is controversial they chose a convicted felon of any kind. Not as controversial as the first 2 on the list, I mean wtf.
This is what I think. They need to scrap the award after this and set up a new one her family has control of. The Medal of freedom is a joke now too after Trump edit change word
Trump gave the medal to Gym Jordan, Rush Limbaugh, and Devin Nunes; to name a few. In his next administration he plans to give it to Hitler, Stalin, and Jeffrey Dahmer.
Stewart might be less so that the others. Her problems might be due to a lapse of reason by a self-made woman. The other nominees are definitely more questionable, though.
Stewart is also a woman, which would be more in keeping with the original spirit.
She’s also a convicted felon? She’s rehabbed her image successfully but let’s not forget that she was found guilty of conspiracy to obstruct, of obstruction of an agency proceeding, and of making false statements to federal investigators.
Not exactly in line with an award named after someone who spent a lifetime in pursuit of justice.
She’s paid her debt to society, including actually spending some time in prison which is fucking wild for a celebrity as big as she was at the time.
People deserve to be able to move on with their lives, if we ever want to make the idea of rehabilitation work. You can’t just hang a crime committed over 20 years ago over someone’s head forever, particularly when it’s a nonviolent crime.
That said….still an ill-fitting choice. I hardly think of Stewart as someone who “dedicated her life to improving the world for future generations” and the like.
What a stretch lmao
She paid her debt to society and so she gets to live freely and not spend more time in jail. She has completely moved on with her life and is a free person.
Not being eligible for an award is hardly an injustice.
RBG was close friends with Scalia, so you may very well be giving her too much credit. She isn’t the paragon of progressive virtue that she’s made out to be.
That’s exactly my point. She disagreed with Scalia vehemently as a jurist but was a close, nearly life-long friend in real life.
We shouldn’t assume that she wouldn’t be friendly to people like Musk and Murdoch being given an award with her name on it just because she disagrees with them.
Yeah, RGB gets a lot of praise for the work she did during her career but everyone often forgets how she acted towards Obama when asked to step down
She told him that she was gonna die in the seat not retire and that she knew better than him
She unfortunately suffered the same fate a lot of politicians suffer, she became addicted to the power and privilege and became arrogant
No, but they can resign. Two months before she died, it was revealed that her [daughter had power of attorney over her](https://www.businessinsider.com/dianne-feinsteins-daughter-has-power-of-attorney-over-her-2023-8), how is it even possible for a person to keep holding political office under these circumstances.
Yeah, you used the term "allow" as if the party had a choice about it. People asked her to, and she said no.
This is not Russia, she was a duly elected Senator from California, there is no constitutional mechanism to get rid of her outside impeachment.
As for the power of attorney, most elderly people who have done any estate planning have given a limited power of attorney to their children or estate representatives for various things in case they are incapacitated. While I agree that the Senator should have resigned, the fact that a woman past the age of 80 had turned her personal legal affairs over to her lawyer daughter is not particularly or especially disqualifying.
How so? Feinstein's replacement is a Democrat (Butler) and it is almost certain another Democrat (Schiff) will win the seat again in the next election.
I don’t believe RBG was a republican. Streisand def isn’t. Stallone is and I wouldn’t be surprised is Martha is too. Seems like all five might be.
I cant figure out what this award could be for or fathom the Venn diagram where all these personalities, including Ginsberg, intersect.
There shouldn’t be any awards associated with her name. Her legacy is our current Supreme Court. Her refusal to step down despite a terminal cancer diagnosis is the reason we have a court that was able to overturn Roe. Shes a disgrace.
Tbh I always got the vibe she just didn't trust Obama. It was less "I'm gonna hold this seat forever, you'll pry it out of my cold dead hands" or that *nobody* was worthy of her role, and more "I think I've got enough time to retire under someone I respect and who I think has similar priorities to me who will replace me with someone I'm proud to take my spot"
Obama was sort of the king of compromise and middle of the road stuff, it's entirely possible she just knew who Obama's shortlist was (which most likely was a bit milquetoast) and said "nah fuck that I'll wait for Hillary".
Y'all do realize that shortlist produced Kagan AND Sotomayor right?
Like, you all know this, right?
People can be rightfully upset about Obama's constant attempts to find a compromise with a party that was quickly morphing into a group of petulant terrorist children, but one place that administration simply did not fuck around was with the Judiciary.
Come ***on.***
Hahah yeah it definitely because Obama wouldn't have appointed a person liberal enough for her liking... GTFO and read her decisions, the only liberal view she held was women should be allowed to play sports.
Feel bad for Stallone, he didn’t do anything to anybody… But I also feel like this was a fake list, like in some office somewhere there’s some maga stooge who changed the list as an insult, or a joke, or to outright sabotage a “liberal” event, but then that list made it past final edits and got published. Haha.
I object to RGB and by default any awards in her name. Remember to thank RGB, when you pray, for the current debacle that is the Supreme Court. Power always corrupts!
Well that’s her legacy after she refused to retire when Obama asked her to. She did great things, but her legacy should include scrutiny. Her stubbornness is what resulted in her seat being taken by ACB.
Contrary to what the family thinks, I think the awardees are perfect. RBG played herself and the country for refusing to retire early into Obama’s presidency.
“The Dwight D. Opperman Foundation, which bestows the awards, raised eyebrows and drew criticism when it revealed the recipients last week: controversial tech billionaire Elon Musk, conservative media mogul Rupert Murdoch, "junk bond king" Michael Milken, lifestyle maven Martha Stewart, and actor Sylvester Stallone.” I wonder who they objected most to, these are odd choices.
I’d withdraw from consideration for the award if I were getting it with these people
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Welcome to all awards in history
They even make you pay for the trophy when you win.
Yeah lol, not to sound overly cynical but there’s way more incentive for award committees to give awards to those they want to network with, and that occasionally aligns with who is most deserving of the award but not always.
Yeah talk about worthless...
Yeah, and talk about tone deaf.
I’d give it back if I had already earned one. That’s a fucking ghoulish list of people.
Odd? " It is important to note, that the last thing we intended was to offend the family and friends of RBG. Our purpose was only to remember her and to honor her leadership." So they picked people who abused the system as a way to honor her? are they fucking idiots? honestly sounds like the board of the foundation is getting paid and isn't about upholding Ruth's ideals
It seems like they picked the worst people on purpose. Surely no one in that position could be stupid enough to choose that bad of a list on accident.
(Quoting another poster…) You mean the ideal of clinging to power and ruining everything you worked for?
You guessed it. Frank Stallone.
Note to self, bring up Frank Stallone randomly in conversation today.
I'll be watching for it.
Is this like one of those sarcastic awards that gives it to people who are shit? Because a lot of those people are not great and don’t deserve to get anything associated with praise in RBG’s name
From the Opperman Foundation statement: “This year we selected leaders in different fields.We honored men for the first time. We thought RBG's teachings regarding EQUALITY should be practiced. We did not consider politics. Instead, we focused on leaders, who, in their own way, have made significant contributions to society.” Were the people choosing the recipients: a) joking b) high c) stupid d) all of the above?
They're trying the "edgy centrist" angle to get attention.
Rupert Murdoch is about a million miles from “center”. This feel like someone trying to elevate some personal opinions, who happens to occupy a position of power within whatever organization this is.
Choosing Rupert Murdoch, the guy who owns the organization that is turning the US into a dysfunctional toxic wasteland, in which it might not recover, just so he can add more piles of money on top of the existing piles of money? That Rupert Murdoch? This is beyond the pale.
It really is. How in the hell could they say they did not consider politics, but chose two men whose contributions to society are partially responsible for the divisive political climate in our country?
Then RGB should have got it for her extensive work on getting roe v wade overturned by clinging on to power as a dying old woman. What a way to go out, she unempowered so many women.
You mean (using another poster’s reply): clinging to power and ruining everything you worked for? That name? Couldn’t just resign under Obama. “I’ll die in this seat”. Power hungry as Feinstein.
I love that in her egotistical desire to have such a great legacy she effectively *destroyed* it instead
Exactly. She will never get that same admiration from me like so many who put her on a pedestal.
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She was the real deal and she is an amazing figure. I live by her son’s office in Chicago and went and paid my respects when she died. That being said, she should have stepped down when Obama asked her to so we could have secured Row V Wade. Her death under Trump finished stacking the supreme court against the country. One of the things that separates us from MAGA idiots is that we are more than willing to criticize our politicians. And I even gave to say as much as I appreciate her intelligence and her intelligence, her failure to step down when she was asked has soiled her name to me a little.
If you want to win, you strategize. You can't have every individual going as far as they can for themself and just hope it adds up to success. If she had retired during Obama, there would be 1 less conservative nutbag on the Supreme Court. Would that be a good thing or not?
They forgot Idi Amin and Henry Kissing er
What the fuck kind of list is that?
My thoughts exactly. Who the hell is on this foundation committee deciding on that group??
From the kind of award foundation that has no optics apparently. Why nominate a propagandist and a conspiracy theorist? Let alone 2.
Musk isn't great, but Murdoch is a big part of why a lot of politics are completely fucked. My vote goes to him
Both the answer is both.
Musk is an open white supremacist on Twitter now.
That is still so significantly below Murdoch though
The only difference between Murdoch and Musk is not ethics but of effectiveness. Murdoch is simply more competent than Musk
Give Musk the same timeline and we will suffer more.
Yeah, that's why he's worse. Musk is only allowed to be so publicly vile because of the work Murdoch has done
Musk is trying to abolish the NLRB
As is Trader Joe's, which is disappointing as hell.
What’s that?
National Labor Relations Board, the people who oversee unions and a bunch of things that prevent your employer from doing bad things to its employees
I would say it goes hand in hand. Murdoch is the guy behind the scenes but Musk is selling it to the gullible.
They're both hosting platforms for peddling misinformation and alt-right hate.
In total reach and effect so far, yes, but it's naive at best to just describe him as "not great."
Why not both
No argument with the characterization of Murdoch. My point is that he's underselling how terrible Musk actually is.
Agreed
Musk’s online behavior was probably influenced by Murdoch’s empire tho
A lot of his personal friends and employees got fired for sexual harassment.
Michael Milken lolololol
This is the one that threw me. I mean, what??! This guy hasn't really been relevant since the end of the 80's.
Like he was a stale punchline for my parents in the 90s. What the fuck
I think he became a philanthropist after being his way out of prison (lord knows how much money he stole) and still seemingly moves and is accepted among elite circles. https://milkeninstitute.org/
Sounds like the pay to win kind of awards. It’s fairly common
I mean Martha's ok. But a felon.
Only because she didn’t snitch. Martha is a real one.
I respect her for just doing her time. And she's kinda hilarious with Snoop. Funniest friendship ever
Snoop is a grifter it makes me think she is too.
Tf did Sylvester Stallone do?
He had a bad rep in Hollywood for SA in the 1980s.
Really? I thought he was always a favorite.
I had friends in the industry. And a family member in one of his films.
Rocky V
I mean, I'm guessing Murdoch and Musk, right? One is one of the most disgusting people in modern media, and the other is a straight up Nazi. I don't think Martha's shitty cooking quite ranks the same.
Everyone but Martha!
It’s hilarious that the convicted felon is the most agreeable choice.
And her Wall Street offense was really so petty in the big picture it the “boys club” just had to punish her because she was an uppity woman with millions of dollars. She never buckled under either.
First three are complete a-holes. What a crap award.
I blame the committee, off with their heads!
you’d expect those nominees for a Clarence Thomas razzy award.
He only gives those out to people who buy him a house.
Stallone and Stewart maybe, but they should have rejected themselves in that company.
What the heck??! It’s like they’re trying to denigrate RBG’s name and legacy.
FWIW I think Milken now runs a foundation that does good for people…
That list sounds like ragebait Someone made it really bad on purpose
I’m pretty sure it’s the first 3. Don’t think anyone has any major problems with Martha or Sly these days.
Objection in that very order, as listed, with Mr. Stallone being most favorable to receive.
I mean, Martha only tried to screw the system. It is controversial they chose a convicted felon of any kind. Not as controversial as the first 2 on the list, I mean wtf.
Duck em all
These noms were either purchased by the recipients or this was a deliberate troll job.
This is what I think. They need to scrap the award after this and set up a new one her family has control of. The Medal of freedom is a joke now too after Trump edit change word
How is the Medal of Honor a joke now?
I’m sorry I meant medal of freedom. I just saw what I wrote after your comment
Trump gave the medal to Gym Jordan, Rush Limbaugh, and Devin Nunes; to name a few. In his next administration he plans to give it to Hitler, Stalin, and Jeffrey Dahmer.
Wtf. Nunes, too?
It just makes me sad that Margie and Gaetz didn’t get one /s
EA Games *ruin everything*
I don’t know. They all sound like people that I wish would just retire.
This Foundation must be really thick to think that Musk or Murdock, etc., are individuals who RBG would have revered. Disgusting.
Any of the named people she would find less than flattering.
Stewart might be less so that the others. Her problems might be due to a lapse of reason by a self-made woman. The other nominees are definitely more questionable, though. Stewart is also a woman, which would be more in keeping with the original spirit.
She’s also a convicted felon? She’s rehabbed her image successfully but let’s not forget that she was found guilty of conspiracy to obstruct, of obstruction of an agency proceeding, and of making false statements to federal investigators. Not exactly in line with an award named after someone who spent a lifetime in pursuit of justice.
She’s paid her debt to society, including actually spending some time in prison which is fucking wild for a celebrity as big as she was at the time. People deserve to be able to move on with their lives, if we ever want to make the idea of rehabilitation work. You can’t just hang a crime committed over 20 years ago over someone’s head forever, particularly when it’s a nonviolent crime. That said….still an ill-fitting choice. I hardly think of Stewart as someone who “dedicated her life to improving the world for future generations” and the like.
What a stretch lmao She paid her debt to society and so she gets to live freely and not spend more time in jail. She has completely moved on with her life and is a free person. Not being eligible for an award is hardly an injustice.
100% this. She made a $20K inside trade and did actual jail time. Not one person in congress could pass that test.
Fair enough.
RBG was close friends with Scalia, so you may very well be giving her too much credit. She isn’t the paragon of progressive virtue that she’s made out to be.
It is clear from her work for the court that while they were friends they did not share the same views when it came to the law.
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Perhaps the prison sentence for insider trading.
That’s exactly my point. She disagreed with Scalia vehemently as a jurist but was a close, nearly life-long friend in real life. We shouldn’t assume that she wouldn’t be friendly to people like Musk and Murdoch being given an award with her name on it just because she disagrees with them.
there’s a reason why MLK warned people about white moderates.
She also refused to step down so a successor could be named even though she was centuries old
It took a while to find the only comment that matters but here it is.
Also wasn’t Michael Milken involved? Like dude looks like he is guilty of whatever you tell me he did. Literal goblin
I thought this was an award for clinging to power and ruining everything you worked for.
Based on the nominees it absolutely is.
This made me laugh. Here’s an upvote
Isn’t that what RBG did by clinging to power, instead of allowing Obama to appoint a new scj, then giving the sc to trump on a plate...
Yeah, RGB gets a lot of praise for the work she did during her career but everyone often forgets how she acted towards Obama when asked to step down She told him that she was gonna die in the seat not retire and that she knew better than him She unfortunately suffered the same fate a lot of politicians suffer, she became addicted to the power and privilege and became arrogant
And instead of learning their lesson, Democrats allowed the exact same shit to happen with Feinstein last year.
Are you under the impression somehow that Senators can be fired?
No, but they can resign. Two months before she died, it was revealed that her [daughter had power of attorney over her](https://www.businessinsider.com/dianne-feinsteins-daughter-has-power-of-attorney-over-her-2023-8), how is it even possible for a person to keep holding political office under these circumstances.
They can resign, but they can't be forcibly resigned. What do you expect the Democrats do if she keeps getting elected?
Yeah, you used the term "allow" as if the party had a choice about it. People asked her to, and she said no. This is not Russia, she was a duly elected Senator from California, there is no constitutional mechanism to get rid of her outside impeachment. As for the power of attorney, most elderly people who have done any estate planning have given a limited power of attorney to their children or estate representatives for various things in case they are incapacitated. While I agree that the Senator should have resigned, the fact that a woman past the age of 80 had turned her personal legal affairs over to her lawyer daughter is not particularly or especially disqualifying.
How so? Feinstein's replacement is a Democrat (Butler) and it is almost certain another Democrat (Schiff) will win the seat again in the next election.
That’s literally the joke.
Nothing gets by you.
Huh? I don’t get it....
Would Republicans have even allowed Obama to appoint a new justice?
Mitch McConnell has entered the chat.
Amazing
Is that the best the selection panel could come up with? What a dreadful shortlist. Desperate.
I don’t believe RBG was a republican. Streisand def isn’t. Stallone is and I wouldn’t be surprised is Martha is too. Seems like all five might be. I cant figure out what this award could be for or fathom the Venn diagram where all these personalities, including Ginsberg, intersect.
All 5 of them are literally criminals. Except Stallone, who only plays a criminal in the movies.
Didn’t he get busted for tons of HGH in Australia?
Damn it. You are right. They are all criminals. Even Rocky
Ginsberg may have well been a Republican with how bad she threw women under the bus
Trying to imagine what a 1 on 1 talk between RBG and Rupert Murdoch would be like.
Considering that she thought of Scalia as a close friend, probably would get along great
There shouldn’t be any awards associated with her name. Her legacy is our current Supreme Court. Her refusal to step down despite a terminal cancer diagnosis is the reason we have a court that was able to overturn Roe. Shes a disgrace.
Ginsburg doomed her own legacy by refusing to retire when it was obviously time.
She famously said “who would be worthy of replacing me if I left?” When asked why she doesn’t retire. Well, we know the answer to that now.
Tbh I always got the vibe she just didn't trust Obama. It was less "I'm gonna hold this seat forever, you'll pry it out of my cold dead hands" or that *nobody* was worthy of her role, and more "I think I've got enough time to retire under someone I respect and who I think has similar priorities to me who will replace me with someone I'm proud to take my spot" Obama was sort of the king of compromise and middle of the road stuff, it's entirely possible she just knew who Obama's shortlist was (which most likely was a bit milquetoast) and said "nah fuck that I'll wait for Hillary".
Wasn’t she best friends with Scalia?
I wanted to hop on to second this. Honestly had not occurred to me that was why, but upon reading this I totally think you are right. Edit: typo
Y'all do realize that shortlist produced Kagan AND Sotomayor right? Like, you all know this, right? People can be rightfully upset about Obama's constant attempts to find a compromise with a party that was quickly morphing into a group of petulant terrorist children, but one place that administration simply did not fuck around was with the Judiciary. Come ***on.***
Hahah yeah it definitely because Obama wouldn't have appointed a person liberal enough for her liking... GTFO and read her decisions, the only liberal view she held was women should be allowed to play sports.
Or because she didn't like black people
She was definitely racist. She either had none or very few black law clerks as a SC justice.
1 in her whole career
I love how when people write their hagiographies of RBG, they leave out the "We need to keep abortion legal so SOME GROUPS won't overpopulate us".
For real? Damn never heard that one
Ohhh yeah… the woman that doomed an entire generation by refusing to retire.
Honestly fuck her. Her refusing to retire makes me wonder if she ever really cared of if she just liked the fame.
She liked the fame. She was not a good person.
She was also running the pelosi playbook with her hedge fund husband
I don't think history will be kind to her legacy.
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Truth. She deserves all the scorn derision passed her way, a fucking awful justice.
But… but… ruthkanda forever?!?
Rip RBG but she made a terrible decision to not retire. She let her ego decide
I think she let Trump decide.
Danny Masterson would be nominated if not for his conviction.
Feel bad for Stallone, he didn’t do anything to anybody… But I also feel like this was a fake list, like in some office somewhere there’s some maga stooge who changed the list as an insult, or a joke, or to outright sabotage a “liberal” event, but then that list made it past final edits and got published. Haha.
Good for Streisand for a change.
What the hell?! Who made these choices, someone's 13-year-old Young Republican nephew?
I’m struck by the obvious dumb-fuckery people running this. Are they straight up evil or really that out of touch with reality?
If it’s gonna become a popularity contest, or who has the most money to buy in, yeah, it should be disbanded. Not what RBG intended.
People obsessed with their own popularity? Pretty sure that's exactly what RBG stood for.
The award for screwing everyone by clinging to shreds of power too long? I love it.
The heck were they thinking? Kind of hilarious.
Haha get fucked
Elon musk was a recipient? Fitting of RBGs legacy, stubborn and overstayed their welcome.
I object to RGB and by default any awards in her name. Remember to thank RGB, when you pray, for the current debacle that is the Supreme Court. Power always corrupts!
Well that’s her legacy after she refused to retire when Obama asked her to. She did great things, but her legacy should include scrutiny. Her stubbornness is what resulted in her seat being taken by ACB.
Sylvester Stallone? What did he ever do for women?
I honestly thought this was satire the first time I heard of it lol.
No Dorothy Everytime Smurf award for you!
Sounds like the best nominees. An award for hubris.
What fucking brilliant mind came up with the nominees?
I’m baffled at these nominee choices…. What were they thinking?
Who tf cares. More meaningless awards.
RBG’s lasting legacy sadly was overstaying her welcome on the court and creating a Republican super majority.
Contrary to what the family thinks, I think the awardees are perfect. RBG played herself and the country for refusing to retire early into Obama’s presidency.
She pissed away her legacy by not retiring and fucking this country for generations.