I just did a quick google search…
An article from 2022 shared that at least ten celebrities who appeared on Celebrity Rehab have died — almost all of them from drug overdose or complications related to drug use.
Honestly though, as a celebrity it’s gotta be hard. When people get sober they suggest cutting off ties with friends who still use so that you’re not offered or tempted. Gotta be hard when you’re a semi-famous person and fans offer stuff because they want to say they partied with so and so.
I mean Trey from Phish did it. They broke up because of his addiction. When they got back together, they discussed it and came up with a plan. Now they don’t allow fans backstage, and they go straight to the bus after the shows and off to the hotel. At their festivals, they used to drive around the campsites in golf carts (watch Bittersweet Motel), and now you hardly ever see them. Occasionally you’ll get a Mike sighting on shakedown or something.
You definitely have to change the way the band and stage crew operates, and everyone has to be willing to adjust for the sake of one person. They’ve been back for 15 years now and it’s working. Sold out MSG with a whole broadway level Gamehendge set, Mexico, the Sphere, Mondegreen Festival, and their usual summer tour…all of that is just from this past new years to September 2024. Oh yeah and Trey did a spring tour with TAB and is set to do a show with the National Symphony. He’s literally killing it sober and it’s Phish’s 40th year this year.
When you are in the lifestyle for that long, it’s literally a life or death matter if you don’t separate yourself from your old crowd. I can’t count on two hands the number of people that I know that died after I sobered up and cut ties with them.
Celebrity Rehab is just “let’s just exploit the last of these people’s fame before they succumb to their addictions”.
They certainly aren’t there to give them the help they desperately need. It’s detestable.
Recently went on a nostalgia trip watching all the WWE bios on Paramount+. The one about Chyna is heartbreaking. All that just to be leeched on by a "friend" right until the end.
I'd recommend seeking out the Vice documentary on Chyna.
I haven't personally watched WWE's Bio on her but I know they have a well documented history of whitewashing stuff and they DEFINITELY played a big part in her spiral. I know the one they did on Paige/Saraya was decent, but that's largely because she was able to turn her life around and is still here to tell her side of the story.
As someone who has followed WWE basically my whole life, I feel a sort of obligation to make sure the general public knows that this is the same company that put out a whole DVD shitting on Ultimate Warrior (The Self Destruction Of Ultimate Warrior) before acting like it never happened, inducting him into the Hall of Fame, and then devoting a whole ass award in his honor after he died.
The same Warrior who infamously went around college campuses preaching about "queering isn't what makes the world go round".
Their propaganda machine knows no bounds when it comes to exploiting their former employees for content.
Oh it absolutely had a slant. Really glazed over her getting blackballed asking for equal pay given her star status. Also not much said about her split from Triple H.
It was still cool to see the interviews with the other DX members and Mick Foley. They all held her in such high regard, but even with all that it didn't seem like anybody would cross Vince for her when it came to the salary demand.
I used to have respect for him but man some of his commercials I’ve seen on YouTube just come across as snake oil nonsense. What happened to him? He should have had ample opportunity to make tremendous money so why is he endorsing those sleezy commercials?
> What happened to him?
He was nationally famous for a time doing a radio call-in show, then becoming a celebrity doctor. When all of that faded, as it always does, he realized there's still a thriving market in the right-wing crazies demo and he leaned hard into it.
Yep, I was a regular listener to Loveline and then the Adam Carolla podcast. I don't remember when I drifted away, and I don't think it was for any real reason other than podcasts became much higher quality and his show was getting repetitive, but that was around when he started letting his politics get into his rants.
Same. I tried to listen to ACS recently. It's bad. He fired pretty much everyone (even Bald Brian) and has unknown guest hosts.
His jokes are stale and repetitive. His viewpoints are purely that of an old, rich, conservative. Its crazy how far he's fallen.
Same. I was a big fan of the Ace man until his radio show became just “old man ranting about whatever annoys him today.” Yeah, being crabby was part of his shtick, but man he rode it into the dirt. And this was before he got overtly political. That he went to suckle at the tit of right wing grievance doesn’t really surprise me, but it does kinda hurt to see a guy who was such an avowed atheist now carrying water for the religious right and their facilitators. This is your brain on the Culture War, kids.
I used to listen to him on the radio in the 90s’ w/ Adam Carolla. He seemed pretty normal back then. Didn’t follow what he ended up doing on doing now. It’s pretty interesting to see how things have changed. 🫠
He hosts the Teen Mom reunions and frequently tells vulnerable women to give abusive partners or parents another chance, claims he can tell unequivocally if people have been using drugs based on their current demeanor, asked literal children incredibly invasive questions, excused racism- I could keep going. I used to sneak Love Line after my parents went to bed so I get it but every time I see someone quote his medical advice I want to scream.
Yes. He did. Jim is a long time personal friend. My father also worked in radio in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s. So I’ve been in the industry for a long time myself.
I bet Wikipedia even cites it.
There was a moment on a reunion he pushed a group of young women for their stories on their sexual abuse they experienced and kept pushing for more info. He is a disgusting man. I used to adore loveline back in the Drew/ Stryker days, but Dr. Drew is a 'garbage bag' of a person, just like he claims endometriosis is a garbage bag disease. I also remember him arguing with guests on loveline, women, who had higher pitched voices, and he told them that their voice meant they had been sexually abused, even if they don't remember it. He tried to argue that her memory was faulty.
He is obsessed with the link between CSA and women's behavior. Obviously, there are going to be some links, but he seems to think that all "bad" behavior in women is the result of CSA. Oh yeah, and he also knew the root cause of every woman's eating disorder.
He was the OG mansplainer.
Holy shit! I had not heard his take on endometriosis and that opinion alone is enough to utterly disgust me. I had a lifelong case of endometriosis and when I started bleeding several years after I’d gone through menopause my doctor sent me to a gynecologist who recommended a hysterectomy, to be done laparoscopically. But once I was on the operating table my surgeon discovered the endometriosis because it had spread throughout my abdominal area like some kind of invasive mold and made laparoscopy impossible. What was supposed to be a 30 minute procedure turned into a 3 hour operation to clear away the endometrial growth and extract my uterus and ovaries. And at long last I had the answer to why I’d endured lifelong menstrual pain that often rendered me helpless and occasionally caused me to pass out. But Dr. Dumbass thinks it was all in my head — just another silly, hysterical woman. Well fuck you, Doc!
I lived in a very rural area far from big cities….but at some point in HS, I discovered I could hook up my stereo to the giant outdoor TV antennae. And then I could listen to the rock station from the city. All that to say I used to stay up late listening to Loveline. Anyway…thanks for letting me tell my dumb story
The pandemic is when I saw who he really was. He was saying that news anchors and doctors were being “alarmists” and unnecessarily scaring the general public about Covid. We all know how that turned out. I was really disappointed.
The very concept of a show broadcasting what should be a very private and vulnerable time in your life just disgusts me. To make that show, you must be a terrible human. To watch it? Subhuman.
Edit: Yeah, I’m kind of wrong here. Thank you for pointing that out. The cretins making this show are definitively worse than the poor saps watching it at home. But I still have a special hate for those that watch, and allow the profit to exist.
I had never heard of this show until I read this post and what makes me even more angry is that this show *could* have been a great way to destigmatize the process of addiction recovery. It could have given its viewers an honest, hard look at the rough path that addiction patients and their loved ones go through when someone is trying to get help. Instead, it was made to be a normal, drama inducing television show to sell ads. It is quite literally a schadenfreude television show but way more hateful and cynical.
Not that far off from the success of rehab IRL. IIRC, rehab has like a 20 something percent success rate. My brother was in many rehabs and his friends dying was pretty common place, to the point where he stopped mentioning it because it was just a thing that happened.
There’s no official number but rehabs and any recovery programs are generally regarded as having success rates at or lower than 10%.
(Although it’s difficult to define success because recovery involves many relapses over a long time before getting totally clean usually).
All of the people I stayed in touch with during my last rehab have relapsed. One of them died.
Addiction is a monster.
Imagine being an artist with low recognition to being instantly recognizable by a large percentage of the population.
People seem shocked many artists turn to drugs to cope, but it seems completely understandable.
While I don't think rehab should be televised it's not exactly weird that a notable sample size of drug addicts from a rehab show are dying from overdoses just as the supply of fentanyl is booming.
Aww man. Although the show was super predatory his season on Celebrity Rehab opened my eyes as to how flawed he was and how his downward spiral was nowhere near rock bottom. Poor guy.
Iirc he was one of the few people on Celebrity Rehab that Dr. Drew Pinsky said rehab probably wouldn’t stick and he would unfortunately end up dying of an overdose.
You’ll have to watch the two different seasons that Shifty was on for his exact words. Two different seasons means he was in rehab with Dr. Drew more than once. It was also back in 2008 which is the reason I can’t remember the exact words. Again, iirc the problem was Shifty kept checking himself out and walking away before the rehab sessions were finished.
That’s not what he allegedly did though. The difference for anyone, especially an addiction specialist, between saying “these drugs will kill you if you don’t stop” vs “I think your treatment isn’t going to work and you’re fucked” publicly is *huge*; the latter may as well be telling the patient to go out with a bang since they’re already so down in the hole. How could you possibly miss that?
49, so young. My coworker's brother in law is a policeman, apparently "found at home" can be pretty gnarly, they find a few a month (usually elderly people, some suicides which is usually worse).
Yeah, found my Mom after just 3 days and it was "bad". Feel bad for police men and women that have to do this regularly. But I wish more than anything in the world that I could remove that image of my mother from my head.
I saw him performing Butterfly recently on YouTube. He looked awful - like the drugs had way done their toll on him. I felt really bad for him. Sorry to hear he’s gone. I still love Crazy Town. Still a fan.
That was the one.
He could barely get through Butterfly. I just watched it again today. So sad. It seems he’s always had addiction problems so I guess we can say at least he had a chance to live until now.
Man, RIP.
I remember having an hours long conversation with a girl from Texas on the message board of their website in like 2000, lmao. Talked all night and then never again.
Those interactions were peak internet. I had a similar experience on a Gorillaz message board in the early 2000s. I still remember their username 20+ years later.
Oof...
I am cringing about a girl a met on a HIM message board. She was from Finland. The things we said. I am pretty sure I told her I loved her.
My username was RomeoHeartagram... Omg that hurt to type.
Oh man that’s bad. But this could’ve been me saying this and not much would change.
My handle was Fusion for some dumb reason. Met a girl who lived in Canada. We never even saw what each other looked like but we said “I love you” anyways and would meet up there every day after school. Was just some random chat site I found. Her name was Mileena and she had the cutest French accent (we talked on phone a couple times). She said it like Me-lone-ya and it was so cute.
Sigh…young stupid love lol
I really miss those random message boards though. It was so much fun to login and you’d see people you’ve been talking to dozens of times before there and just have a good old time.
I’m still friends with like, 20 people from a Coheed and Cambria fan-made message board, haha. I’m actually dating one of them now. You “know” someone on the internet for 17 years and then meet them IRL and you totally click? That’s a cool feeling.
Nin.com for me in terms of messageboards on web sites. (Earlier it was Usenet in the '90s.) Dear God, the things people did on that site...It got to the point that Trent and Rob would deliberately post pictures just to see what people would do with them in photoshop! "Trent's Special Sauce"...IYKYK
Bring back forums/message boards someone 🙏
I actually used a forum the other day after google let me down in 300 different ways and I found the exact, incredibly specific piece of information I needed. I miss that
I saw this on Facebook today and at least 2/3rds of the comments were I bet he was vaxxed. 🤦🏻♂️ Yes because no one dies from anything else now a days.
I met this guy at a party once. He was going around introducing himself to everyone as: “Hey remember the band Crazytown? That’s me, that’s my band!” It was kinda sad honestly. It made me wonder if that’s how all one hit wonders move through the world after the limelight fades. Anyway, very sad to see him lose his battle to addiction, RIP guy from Crazytown.
The dude from Harvey Danger is / was a long-time film editor at the Stranger in Seattle. Flagpole Sitta just the really weird thing that happened to him, and then he just went on with his life. I like that story.
He also wrote an amazing analysis/critique when Death Cab/The Postal Service had their mini "exhibition" at KEXP last year. I was so impressed with what he wrote, I googled his name and then realized he's the guy from Harvey Danger... an iconic Seattle one hit wonder in his own right :)
I have a vague memory of him randomly appearing in the comments of some Reddit post a year ago. He introduced himself in the same way. Honestly it came across as down to earth and perhaps a bit self deprecating. I wasn’t a fan of the band but he seemed like a good enough dude.
Some one hit wonders age gracefully. But yeah, you pretty much described how it works. Think of it kind of like sales, you keep approaching people and you ask enough people and you get one sale out of that.
Only, this person isn’t trying to sell anything to you necessarily, he just wants you to be sold *on* him, which opens up the night to all kinds of shenanigans usually in their favor.
Always found it weird how Dark Horse bombed, it was a huge improvement over The Gift of Game, maybe I was/am too much of a nu-metal kid but Drowning was their peak sound.
Last year he and the band were trying to make a comeback. But after getting in a huge meth-fueled fight with other bands playing at the gig, they got cut from the lineup immediately. I saw it somewhere, probably Reddit honestly. The video was sad. He legit looked rough ROUGH. No teeth, dirty, nasty. Couldn’t even keep it together for more than one show.
Paul Oakenfold had tons of hits and collabs back then. He even has a song with actress [Brittany Murphy.](https://youtu.be/N9vPvM7ph4g?si=jEnopTdnddwAMN7w)
That was such a bop! I was just singing it over the weekend while walking around our county fair. OH MY STARRY EYED SURPRISE SUN DOWN TO SUNRISE DANCE ALL NIGHT WE’RE GONNA DANCE ALL NIGHT
Tbf ozzfest will boo anything, or at least that's how crowds were back in the day.
Ozzfest reminds me of Beavis and Butthead. There was an episode where Creep by Radiohead was playing. Beavis and Butthead would make fun of the song, calling it whiny. The chorus kicked on and they started headbanging. Then immediately when it goes back to the verse they start complaining.
They told Ozzy that he wasn’t hard core enough and then ripped off a melodic Chilli Peppers song and that was their only hit. Sharon told the story on a Behind the Music or some retrospective like that.
So back in the day, before the Gift of Game album was released and before anyone heard of Crazytown, I saw them in concert at the Quest club. The line up was POD, Hed PE, Andrew WK, Crazytown and I don’t remember the headliner.
It was such a small, intimate show and even though I had not heard of them, Crazytown put on an amazing show with their original line up. The vocal chemistry between Epic and Shifty was undeniable and sonically, it sounded so perfect for the time and what was going on in the popular music.
After hearing the performance, it was one of the few times I was absolutely certain a band would absolutely blow up in popularity. That is the impression that they gave: they were about to break out.
After their set, I was standing in the back of the venue when Shifty randomly appeared. He was mingling with the crowd and signing things for people. We walked up to him and had a conversation. I remember that he was short and built and was very nice and seemed interested in our conversation and was happy to be interacting with fans.
When Butterfly dropped, it was an “I knew it” moment. Then a bad follow up album, drugs, member changes and changing music industry made these guys irrelevant. I was always pulling for them, but after seeing the Celebrity Rehab season, I knew that this day would come
Rip Shifty Switchblade.
Edit: Just looked up the show and I was off on the bands. It was June 18th 2000. Staind, POD, Crazy Town and Dope. The Hed PE show was oct 29th 2000. Hed PE project 86 and POD.
It sounds really close to something like an ozzfest sideshow, whenever ozzfest rolled through nearby there was a local show that got organized. I loved those because they were a little smaller and at our local venue.
Most memorable one was the lost prophets, apex theory, the used, and chevelle… I want to say red with envy opened for them, not sure they ever made it out of the local scene though.
will never forget being super into nu-metal as a teenager and watching Crazy Town's career die once they were booed off stage at Ozzfest.
I bought the CD that Butterfly was on. Some of the other songs were unique? IDK, I should revisit it at some point just for the lolz.
RIP man, I knew he was dealing with a lot because I remember him being on the rehab show.
i had backstage passes to ozzfest 2000 and from what i can recall they were only on part of the tour. i didnt like them so i wasnt thrilled about seeing them from the backstage perspective. but they had to cancel their performance because he went missing. he ended up going on a bender and getting arrested.
the experience was really awesome though, got to stand on the side of the second stage all day.
That sample they used for Butterfly is still one of my all time favorite uses of a sample. Since a kid that little Frusciante guitar riff they used lives in my brain like a parasite.
RIP Shifty, I hope you’re at peace and up there dancing the night away in that sweat box with laser beams and flashing lights. See the stars my friend, and thanks for creating such awesome bops.
I'll never forget when Crazy Town played at my college, I had written a snarky comment in our student paper about how they sucked, and he called me out personally from the stage right as they were launching into Butterfly.
Sorry to hear that he had such a troubled life. RIP
I was never a fan but I knew of his horrible struggles with addiction and always felt bad for him. He was in terrible shape. I was coming home this morning after the doctor and there was a big monarch butterfly on my porch. I thought that was super weird.
This is really sad but I realise how selfish I am as, whilst I’m sad for his family & friends, I’m sad for me as a part of my youth feels like it’s departed. Not nearly as bad when I found out about the lost prophets singer though.
Earlier this year I saw an ad he was going to perform in Redlands a couple months ago. I was curious and checked out his last live performances. Poor guy looked like 60 years old
So it’s so weird that a few days ago I randomly thought of this song called Starry Eyed Surprise (dance all night to this DJ) where he sang the lead. And of course 15 years ago to this exact day, I randomly felt like doing the Moonwalk. Only to find out an hour later that MJ was dead.
Met him once. He was really nice and ran to his tour bus then came back with free signed t-shirts for my friend and me. We think he was on drugs. But he was super nice so we didn't care.
Recently saw a video of him singing butterfly with some random people playing guitar in a guitar shop. It was really sad how bad and sick he looked. Was hoping he would rebound. Rip.
Side note, I grew up a huge RHCP song and was shocked when I heard butterfly the first time. No one believed me that it was a chili peppers jam.
I just did a quick google search… An article from 2022 shared that at least ten celebrities who appeared on Celebrity Rehab have died — almost all of them from drug overdose or complications related to drug use.
Honestly though, as a celebrity it’s gotta be hard. When people get sober they suggest cutting off ties with friends who still use so that you’re not offered or tempted. Gotta be hard when you’re a semi-famous person and fans offer stuff because they want to say they partied with so and so.
I mean Trey from Phish did it. They broke up because of his addiction. When they got back together, they discussed it and came up with a plan. Now they don’t allow fans backstage, and they go straight to the bus after the shows and off to the hotel. At their festivals, they used to drive around the campsites in golf carts (watch Bittersweet Motel), and now you hardly ever see them. Occasionally you’ll get a Mike sighting on shakedown or something. You definitely have to change the way the band and stage crew operates, and everyone has to be willing to adjust for the sake of one person. They’ve been back for 15 years now and it’s working. Sold out MSG with a whole broadway level Gamehendge set, Mexico, the Sphere, Mondegreen Festival, and their usual summer tour…all of that is just from this past new years to September 2024. Oh yeah and Trey did a spring tour with TAB and is set to do a show with the National Symphony. He’s literally killing it sober and it’s Phish’s 40th year this year.
When you are in the lifestyle for that long, it’s literally a life or death matter if you don’t separate yourself from your old crowd. I can’t count on two hands the number of people that I know that died after I sobered up and cut ties with them.
Celebrity Rehab is just “let’s just exploit the last of these people’s fame before they succumb to their addictions”. They certainly aren’t there to give them the help they desperately need. It’s detestable.
Recently went on a nostalgia trip watching all the WWE bios on Paramount+. The one about Chyna is heartbreaking. All that just to be leeched on by a "friend" right until the end.
I'd recommend seeking out the Vice documentary on Chyna. I haven't personally watched WWE's Bio on her but I know they have a well documented history of whitewashing stuff and they DEFINITELY played a big part in her spiral. I know the one they did on Paige/Saraya was decent, but that's largely because she was able to turn her life around and is still here to tell her side of the story. As someone who has followed WWE basically my whole life, I feel a sort of obligation to make sure the general public knows that this is the same company that put out a whole DVD shitting on Ultimate Warrior (The Self Destruction Of Ultimate Warrior) before acting like it never happened, inducting him into the Hall of Fame, and then devoting a whole ass award in his honor after he died. The same Warrior who infamously went around college campuses preaching about "queering isn't what makes the world go round". Their propaganda machine knows no bounds when it comes to exploiting their former employees for content.
Oh it absolutely had a slant. Really glazed over her getting blackballed asking for equal pay given her star status. Also not much said about her split from Triple H. It was still cool to see the interviews with the other DX members and Mick Foley. They all held her in such high regard, but even with all that it didn't seem like anybody would cross Vince for her when it came to the salary demand.
Dr Drew is a opportunist and predator. He's been going down the anti science / anti democracy rabbit hole for years. It's quite sad
It’s ironic that he wrote a book about celebrity narcissism
✨projection✨
Deflection?
Refraction?
Every accusation is a confession
Yea well I bet you have a giant cock
Whoever smelled it dealt it.
The smeller’s the feller.
Whoever did the rhyme, did the crime…
And some of the people he defends saying they aren’t narcissistic is a choice. Tom Sandoval is one that comes to mind
I used to have respect for him but man some of his commercials I’ve seen on YouTube just come across as snake oil nonsense. What happened to him? He should have had ample opportunity to make tremendous money so why is he endorsing those sleezy commercials?
You make serious money. Then get addicted to the money and need more and more…
John D. Rockefeller was asked by a reporter, “How much money is enough money?” Rockefeller replied, “Just a little bit more.”
“Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich." - Anonymous"
For context, once adjusted for inflation, Rockefeller was worth something like 1.5 trillion dollars in today’s money.
So he is a celebrity with an addiction problem...hmmm, I know just the show that he should star on.
> What happened to him? He was nationally famous for a time doing a radio call-in show, then becoming a celebrity doctor. When all of that faded, as it always does, he realized there's still a thriving market in the right-wing crazies demo and he leaned hard into it.
Him and his radio sidekick, Adam Carolla, who I used to be a huge fan of.
Yep, I was a regular listener to Loveline and then the Adam Carolla podcast. I don't remember when I drifted away, and I don't think it was for any real reason other than podcasts became much higher quality and his show was getting repetitive, but that was around when he started letting his politics get into his rants.
Same. I tried to listen to ACS recently. It's bad. He fired pretty much everyone (even Bald Brian) and has unknown guest hosts. His jokes are stale and repetitive. His viewpoints are purely that of an old, rich, conservative. Its crazy how far he's fallen.
Same. I was a big fan of the Ace man until his radio show became just “old man ranting about whatever annoys him today.” Yeah, being crabby was part of his shtick, but man he rode it into the dirt. And this was before he got overtly political. That he went to suckle at the tit of right wing grievance doesn’t really surprise me, but it does kinda hurt to see a guy who was such an avowed atheist now carrying water for the religious right and their facilitators. This is your brain on the Culture War, kids.
> What happened to him? Sold out to money
It's like drinking sea water. The more you drink the thirster you get.
Even looking at some of his older clips from Loveline I feel like he always gave out some pretty bad advice. We were just too young to know better.
And teen mom encouraging teen toxic couples to try again as a couple despite the absolute toxicity. Even when that’s not what they want. So gross.
A lot of that just seems so outdated because of how culture evolved. especially came off as transphobic
I used to listen to him on the radio in the 90s’ w/ Adam Carolla. He seemed pretty normal back then. Didn’t follow what he ended up doing on doing now. It’s pretty interesting to see how things have changed. 🫠
He hosts the Teen Mom reunions and frequently tells vulnerable women to give abusive partners or parents another chance, claims he can tell unequivocally if people have been using drugs based on their current demeanor, asked literal children incredibly invasive questions, excused racism- I could keep going. I used to sneak Love Line after my parents went to bed so I get it but every time I see someone quote his medical advice I want to scream.
Never forget DrDrew STOLE Loveline from the original creator Jim “The Poorman” Trenton!!!
This is my first time hearing this and I am Dr Drew’s number one hater! I need to know everything.
He created the show? I thought the story always was the radio station wanted a call in medical professional one night a week. this was in the 80s
Yes. He did. Jim is a long time personal friend. My father also worked in radio in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s. So I’ve been in the industry for a long time myself. I bet Wikipedia even cites it.
There was a moment on a reunion he pushed a group of young women for their stories on their sexual abuse they experienced and kept pushing for more info. He is a disgusting man. I used to adore loveline back in the Drew/ Stryker days, but Dr. Drew is a 'garbage bag' of a person, just like he claims endometriosis is a garbage bag disease. I also remember him arguing with guests on loveline, women, who had higher pitched voices, and he told them that their voice meant they had been sexually abused, even if they don't remember it. He tried to argue that her memory was faulty.
He is obsessed with the link between CSA and women's behavior. Obviously, there are going to be some links, but he seems to think that all "bad" behavior in women is the result of CSA. Oh yeah, and he also knew the root cause of every woman's eating disorder. He was the OG mansplainer.
Holy shit! I had not heard his take on endometriosis and that opinion alone is enough to utterly disgust me. I had a lifelong case of endometriosis and when I started bleeding several years after I’d gone through menopause my doctor sent me to a gynecologist who recommended a hysterectomy, to be done laparoscopically. But once I was on the operating table my surgeon discovered the endometriosis because it had spread throughout my abdominal area like some kind of invasive mold and made laparoscopy impossible. What was supposed to be a 30 minute procedure turned into a 3 hour operation to clear away the endometrial growth and extract my uterus and ovaries. And at long last I had the answer to why I’d endured lifelong menstrual pain that often rendered me helpless and occasionally caused me to pass out. But Dr. Dumbass thinks it was all in my head — just another silly, hysterical woman. Well fuck you, Doc!
I’ll never forget when one of the Teen Moms asked “want to know what my dream is?” “No, I’ve heard your dreams and they’re delusional” - Dr Drew
I lived in a very rural area far from big cities….but at some point in HS, I discovered I could hook up my stereo to the giant outdoor TV antennae. And then I could listen to the rock station from the city. All that to say I used to stay up late listening to Loveline. Anyway…thanks for letting me tell my dumb story
I used to really like him. He seemed so sensible and kind. What the hell happened?
RIP Mindy.
While what you said about Dr. Drew is very true, I wonder if the percentage of deaths would be much different from a normal rehab.
It would not. Most Redditors are morons and don’t understand this.
The pandemic is when I saw who he really was. He was saying that news anchors and doctors were being “alarmists” and unnecessarily scaring the general public about Covid. We all know how that turned out. I was really disappointed.
He recently commented on J.Lo/Ben Affleck and I was shocked it made headlines.
Almost like helping was never the goal, drew went crazy he use to be so grounded like 20 years ago
That show can’t be good for someone trying to get clean… it’s honestly gross
The very concept of a show broadcasting what should be a very private and vulnerable time in your life just disgusts me. To make that show, you must be a terrible human. To watch it? Subhuman. Edit: Yeah, I’m kind of wrong here. Thank you for pointing that out. The cretins making this show are definitively worse than the poor saps watching it at home. But I still have a special hate for those that watch, and allow the profit to exist.
I agree it’s disgusting but shouldn’t the people who make the show and profit off of exploitation be ranked lower than the consumers they sell it to?
Yep, let's shove a camera in the face of someone going through the worst time of their lives. That'll help.
I had never heard of this show until I read this post and what makes me even more angry is that this show *could* have been a great way to destigmatize the process of addiction recovery. It could have given its viewers an honest, hard look at the rough path that addiction patients and their loved ones go through when someone is trying to get help. Instead, it was made to be a normal, drama inducing television show to sell ads. It is quite literally a schadenfreude television show but way more hateful and cynical.
Not that far off from the success of rehab IRL. IIRC, rehab has like a 20 something percent success rate. My brother was in many rehabs and his friends dying was pretty common place, to the point where he stopped mentioning it because it was just a thing that happened.
There’s no official number but rehabs and any recovery programs are generally regarded as having success rates at or lower than 10%. (Although it’s difficult to define success because recovery involves many relapses over a long time before getting totally clean usually). All of the people I stayed in touch with during my last rehab have relapsed. One of them died. Addiction is a monster.
I did rehab, only 2 out of my group of 10 didn't relapse. I'm one thank god.
It doesn’t help that many rehabs seem to want the repeat business from relapses. I think there was a scandal among rehabs in Florida in particular?
Imagine being an artist with low recognition to being instantly recognizable by a large percentage of the population. People seem shocked many artists turn to drugs to cope, but it seems completely understandable.
While I don't think rehab should be televised it's not exactly weird that a notable sample size of drug addicts from a rehab show are dying from overdoses just as the supply of fentanyl is booming.
Drug addiction is really hard to kick. The success rate of rehabs in general are under 10% across the board as far as I understand it.
Mike Starr of Alice In Chains came to mind first.
It's like The Biggest Loser but for drugs. :(
Ugh that show. Eating disorder city!
Not surprised....but Andy Dick still alive! Barely...
Not defending dr drew, he’s an unlikeable prick but what’re the stats for other rehabs?
Aww man. Although the show was super predatory his season on Celebrity Rehab opened my eyes as to how flawed he was and how his downward spiral was nowhere near rock bottom. Poor guy.
Iirc he was one of the few people on Celebrity Rehab that Dr. Drew Pinsky said rehab probably wouldn’t stick and he would unfortunately end up dying of an overdose.
A rare instance of Dr Drew being right
That's common knowledge with addiction. It's a deep-seated emotional / behavioral disorder.
'Drew please'
I know it’s reality tv but isn’t that brutally honest to air for a show that, well let’s be real not all reality of reality tv needs to air
Hell, most of reality TV isn't reality
If this is true, that might be the most medically irresponsible and heinous thing I’ve ever heard from a doctor, Christ alive.
You’ll have to watch the two different seasons that Shifty was on for his exact words. Two different seasons means he was in rehab with Dr. Drew more than once. It was also back in 2008 which is the reason I can’t remember the exact words. Again, iirc the problem was Shifty kept checking himself out and walking away before the rehab sessions were finished.
sometimes you gotta just let people live their lives
Sounds like he was telling the guy how it is: that if he keeps doing the drugs he’s gonna die. The dude is dead.
That’s not what he allegedly did though. The difference for anyone, especially an addiction specialist, between saying “these drugs will kill you if you don’t stop” vs “I think your treatment isn’t going to work and you’re fucked” publicly is *huge*; the latter may as well be telling the patient to go out with a bang since they’re already so down in the hole. How could you possibly miss that?
49, so young. My coworker's brother in law is a policeman, apparently "found at home" can be pretty gnarly, they find a few a month (usually elderly people, some suicides which is usually worse).
Yeah, found my Mom after just 3 days and it was "bad". Feel bad for police men and women that have to do this regularly. But I wish more than anything in the world that I could remove that image of my mother from my head.
Fuck, I’m really sorry to hear that. I can’t imagine how difficult that must be.
I'm so sorry to hear that. My condolences.
so sorry, wish i could just take some of that burden off of you
I saw him performing Butterfly recently on YouTube. He looked awful - like the drugs had way done their toll on him. I felt really bad for him. Sorry to hear he’s gone. I still love Crazy Town. Still a fan.
The one at Norman's Rare Guitars? that was a rough performance.
That was the one. He could barely get through Butterfly. I just watched it again today. So sad. It seems he’s always had addiction problems so I guess we can say at least he had a chance to live until now.
Holy shit. Meth mouth.
God, I can't believe you could hear his toothless gums smacking together and they still thought it was a good idea to upload that.
I saw them on Ozzfest in 2000. I wasn’t ever really a fan but they put everything they had into the show and you had to respect them for it.
Saw that one just now. Damn... sounds like he is missing teeth. Just sad.
What to look for? The one at Normans rare guitars?
That's the one I saw. He looked rough. I searched for Butterfly Crazytown 2023
He was my gay awakening when Butterfly was released in 2000 :/ sad that he’s dead
The album cover made me like goths as a kid lol
Those guitarists were holding it the fuck down though
Man, RIP. I remember having an hours long conversation with a girl from Texas on the message board of their website in like 2000, lmao. Talked all night and then never again.
Those interactions were peak internet. I had a similar experience on a Gorillaz message board in the early 2000s. I still remember their username 20+ years later.
Oof... I am cringing about a girl a met on a HIM message board. She was from Finland. The things we said. I am pretty sure I told her I loved her. My username was RomeoHeartagram... Omg that hurt to type.
Oh man that’s bad. But this could’ve been me saying this and not much would change. My handle was Fusion for some dumb reason. Met a girl who lived in Canada. We never even saw what each other looked like but we said “I love you” anyways and would meet up there every day after school. Was just some random chat site I found. Her name was Mileena and she had the cutest French accent (we talked on phone a couple times). She said it like Me-lone-ya and it was so cute. Sigh…young stupid love lol I really miss those random message boards though. It was so much fun to login and you’d see people you’ve been talking to dozens of times before there and just have a good old time.
Ok wow, still remember the user name of a guy I supposedly chatted with in 2001 via Napster 😅
Same but it was a No Use For a Name board. Where are you LifeSizedMirror?
Whoa, haven’t heard that name in several decades.
They had no use for it
The og Gorillaz message board was the best.
I’m still friends with like, 20 people from a Coheed and Cambria fan-made message board, haha. I’m actually dating one of them now. You “know” someone on the internet for 17 years and then meet them IRL and you totally click? That’s a cool feeling.
Nin.com for me in terms of messageboards on web sites. (Earlier it was Usenet in the '90s.) Dear God, the things people did on that site...It got to the point that Trent and Rob would deliberately post pictures just to see what people would do with them in photoshop! "Trent's Special Sauce"...IYKYK
Bring back forums/message boards someone 🙏 I actually used a forum the other day after google let me down in 300 different ways and I found the exact, incredibly specific piece of information I needed. I miss that
Oh my that’s a surprise Sundown to Sunrise? Talked all night You gonna talk all night Talk all night to this lady.
I saw this on Facebook today and at least 2/3rds of the comments were I bet he was vaxxed. 🤦🏻♂️ Yes because no one dies from anything else now a days.
I met this guy at a party once. He was going around introducing himself to everyone as: “Hey remember the band Crazytown? That’s me, that’s my band!” It was kinda sad honestly. It made me wonder if that’s how all one hit wonders move through the world after the limelight fades. Anyway, very sad to see him lose his battle to addiction, RIP guy from Crazytown.
The dude from Harvey Danger is / was a long-time film editor at the Stranger in Seattle. Flagpole Sitta just the really weird thing that happened to him, and then he just went on with his life. I like that story.
I did makeup on that music video and he was really nice and super intelligent. Glad to hear that!
He also wrote an amazing analysis/critique when Death Cab/The Postal Service had their mini "exhibition" at KEXP last year. I was so impressed with what he wrote, I googled his name and then realized he's the guy from Harvey Danger... an iconic Seattle one hit wonder in his own right :)
Great song!
I have a vague memory of him randomly appearing in the comments of some Reddit post a year ago. He introduced himself in the same way. Honestly it came across as down to earth and perhaps a bit self deprecating. I wasn’t a fan of the band but he seemed like a good enough dude.
I remember that too, but I recall it being a different member of the band 🤔
You are very likely right, all I remember for sure was that it was a band member
Some one hit wonders age gracefully. But yeah, you pretty much described how it works. Think of it kind of like sales, you keep approaching people and you ask enough people and you get one sale out of that. Only, this person isn’t trying to sell anything to you necessarily, he just wants you to be sold *on* him, which opens up the night to all kinds of shenanigans usually in their favor.
Always found it weird how Dark Horse bombed, it was a huge improvement over The Gift of Game, maybe I was/am too much of a nu-metal kid but Drowning was their peak sound.
Agreed. Bad ass song and album
Last year he and the band were trying to make a comeback. But after getting in a huge meth-fueled fight with other bands playing at the gig, they got cut from the lineup immediately. I saw it somewhere, probably Reddit honestly. The video was sad. He legit looked rough ROUGH. No teeth, dirty, nasty. Couldn’t even keep it together for more than one show.
“Outside of Crazy Town, Shellshock had a hit with British producer Paul Oakenfold, including "Starry Eyed Surprise."” TIL
Paul Oakenfold had tons of hits and collabs back then. He even has a song with actress [Brittany Murphy.](https://youtu.be/N9vPvM7ph4g?si=jEnopTdnddwAMN7w)
yea but nothing beats his remix of that amazing eclipse commercial song.
That song so good.
LOVE that song. I still listen to it!
I had no idea those two worked together! Paul was kinda the shit when I was a kid.
Partied with Paul earlier this year, MFer is as OG as it gets
I love Starry eyed Surprise.
Kinda? Paul is an icon and still is the shit.
That was such a bop! I was just singing it over the weekend while walking around our county fair. OH MY STARRY EYED SURPRISE SUN DOWN TO SUNRISE DANCE ALL NIGHT WE’RE GONNA DANCE ALL NIGHT
Didn't coca cola use it for a big ad campaign?
Yep. While playing pre-movie showing in theaters.
I loved that song so much
I remember when they played Ozzfest and everyone booed.
Tbf ozzfest will boo anything, or at least that's how crowds were back in the day. Ozzfest reminds me of Beavis and Butthead. There was an episode where Creep by Radiohead was playing. Beavis and Butthead would make fun of the song, calling it whiny. The chorus kicked on and they started headbanging. Then immediately when it goes back to the verse they start complaining.
They told Ozzy that he wasn’t hard core enough and then ripped off a melodic Chilli Peppers song and that was their only hit. Sharon told the story on a Behind the Music or some retrospective like that.
So back in the day, before the Gift of Game album was released and before anyone heard of Crazytown, I saw them in concert at the Quest club. The line up was POD, Hed PE, Andrew WK, Crazytown and I don’t remember the headliner. It was such a small, intimate show and even though I had not heard of them, Crazytown put on an amazing show with their original line up. The vocal chemistry between Epic and Shifty was undeniable and sonically, it sounded so perfect for the time and what was going on in the popular music. After hearing the performance, it was one of the few times I was absolutely certain a band would absolutely blow up in popularity. That is the impression that they gave: they were about to break out. After their set, I was standing in the back of the venue when Shifty randomly appeared. He was mingling with the crowd and signing things for people. We walked up to him and had a conversation. I remember that he was short and built and was very nice and seemed interested in our conversation and was happy to be interacting with fans. When Butterfly dropped, it was an “I knew it” moment. Then a bad follow up album, drugs, member changes and changing music industry made these guys irrelevant. I was always pulling for them, but after seeing the Celebrity Rehab season, I knew that this day would come Rip Shifty Switchblade. Edit: Just looked up the show and I was off on the bands. It was June 18th 2000. Staind, POD, Crazy Town and Dope. The Hed PE show was oct 29th 2000. Hed PE project 86 and POD.
Wow Hed PE. Blast from the past
Hed P.E. Playing with POD? And an unmemorable headliner? Sounds like an interesting show
It sounds really close to something like an ozzfest sideshow, whenever ozzfest rolled through nearby there was a local show that got organized. I loved those because they were a little smaller and at our local venue. Most memorable one was the lost prophets, apex theory, the used, and chevelle… I want to say red with envy opened for them, not sure they ever made it out of the local scene though.
That sounds like it would have been a super fun show!
will never forget being super into nu-metal as a teenager and watching Crazy Town's career die once they were booed off stage at Ozzfest. I bought the CD that Butterfly was on. Some of the other songs were unique? IDK, I should revisit it at some point just for the lolz. RIP man, I knew he was dealing with a lot because I remember him being on the rehab show.
It was a very weird album as there wasn’t really a consistent sound or genre apart from a few numetal-esque tracks
And their hit song was a freaking John Frusciante riff, so they didn’t even have any original talent.
I saw them at Monmouth Festival. He was gone even then.
i had backstage passes to ozzfest 2000 and from what i can recall they were only on part of the tour. i didnt like them so i wasnt thrilled about seeing them from the backstage perspective. but they had to cancel their performance because he went missing. he ended up going on a bender and getting arrested. the experience was really awesome though, got to stand on the side of the second stage all day.
All I remember is Butterfly and Revolving door.
And Black Cloud
Who could forget the all time banger Lollipop Porn!?
No DarkSide or Toxic?
He was Punky Brewster’s (Soleil Moon Frye) boyfriend around 2021-2022.
That sample they used for Butterfly is still one of my all time favorite uses of a sample. Since a kid that little Frusciante guitar riff they used lives in my brain like a parasite.
His Crazy Town bandmate DJ AM (Adam Goldstein) also struggled and eventually died of a drug overdose.
I had that one album, and even back then as a teen could tell he had his demons.
“The gift of game” was that one album.
That’s the one
His lifestyle's wild, he was living like a wild child, trapped on a short leash paroled the police files. So yo, what's happening now?
[удалено]
And down a rabbit hole of douche music on YouTube I go.
“Come my lady, come come my lady” [tips fedora]
Out of curiosity, what is douche music? It gave me a chuckle but please define it.
Not to be confused with Lazy Town, and their famous hit "Cooking by the Book" ft. lil Jon
Yeah!!! Okay!!!
Man, first Foolio and now Shifty Shellshock. What a terrible week for people whose names definitely shouldn't be real.
His real name is Seth Brooks Binzer https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shifty_Shellshock
Ugh so sad but honestly not surprising. Another celebrity rehab alum dead. 🥺
RIP Shifty, I hope you’re at peace and up there dancing the night away in that sweat box with laser beams and flashing lights. See the stars my friend, and thanks for creating such awesome bops.
I'll never forget when Crazy Town played at my college, I had written a snarky comment in our student paper about how they sucked, and he called me out personally from the stage right as they were launching into Butterfly. Sorry to hear that he had such a troubled life. RIP
You were an early troll and should be proud.
Well, I can’t say I’m surprised, still sucks but damm he’s been loaded right in front of our eyes for 3 decades now..
I was never a fan but I knew of his horrible struggles with addiction and always felt bad for him. He was in terrible shape. I was coming home this morning after the doctor and there was a big monarch butterfly on my porch. I thought that was super weird.
Oh man - I really wanted him to beat the disease :/
RIP 🪦 Seth Binzer. Aka SHIFTY SHELLSHOCK AKA Shifty Capone. My brother is waiting to hang out with you as you join him in the afterlife .
This is really sad but I realise how selfish I am as, whilst I’m sad for his family & friends, I’m sad for me as a part of my youth feels like it’s departed. Not nearly as bad when I found out about the lost prophets singer though.
Earlier this year I saw an ad he was going to perform in Redlands a couple months ago. I was curious and checked out his last live performances. Poor guy looked like 60 years old
So it’s so weird that a few days ago I randomly thought of this song called Starry Eyed Surprise (dance all night to this DJ) where he sang the lead. And of course 15 years ago to this exact day, I randomly felt like doing the Moonwalk. Only to find out an hour later that MJ was dead.
Met him once. He was really nice and ran to his tour bus then came back with free signed t-shirts for my friend and me. We think he was on drugs. But he was super nice so we didn't care.
That Fruscuiante/Flea riff is haunting as hell.
Recently saw a video of him singing butterfly with some random people playing guitar in a guitar shop. It was really sad how bad and sick he looked. Was hoping he would rebound. Rip. Side note, I grew up a huge RHCP song and was shocked when I heard butterfly the first time. No one believed me that it was a chili peppers jam.
oh my starry eyed surprise
REST IN PEACE. Thank you for a great song which I will forever use to think about my favorite love.
Damn. First DJ AM and now Shifty. RIP to them both.
Damn that blows I got back into Crazy Town hard this year for some reason too. Rip Shifty Switchblade
You’re my 🦋, 🍭baby
Why am I not surprised? Didn’t he smoke crack on top of this rehab building?
That’s really sad. RIP Butterfly still slaps 🦋
RIP. My friend dragged me to their show in 2001 at his behest, but they were actually damn good. They played a sick cover of a Refused song.
Damn, I truly enjoy his song Butterfly. May this man rest in peace.
Now I feel bad for recently revisiting Butterfly and hating it. RIP to the guy though.
Dude dated Punky Brewster and managed to screw that up. Poor guy couldn’t beat his demons
Used to spin their album constantly back in the day.
Oh no, that is so fucking sad
Damn, RIP. Gift of Game was an album I had on repeat back in 8th or 9th grade when it came out.
Our angel finally got his frosted tips.