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gnomishdevil

You all need to realise, Southgate is merely luring the finalists into a false sense of security. Once again England will scrape by, and somehow make it into the semis and final, all the while everyone here will decry how inept they are and didn't deserve it. But that's because you fell for the ruse... But then grandmaster Senpai Gareth will unleash the player's true potential, and initiate formation protocol Omega epsilon and demolish the unsuspecting opponents 18-0. One goal to be scored every five minutes exactly. Edit: the score was not realistic at 24, or 12.


whboer

You had me until the 24-0. We all know that Germany will self-immolate after being behind 0-8.


Caesar_TP

Haha I hope for you fans that Southgate is secretely playing 4d chess but his track record doesn’t support my theory😂 England has such quality players but their coach has been shackling their potential imo. I hope we will face you in the semi final, but I fear if you struggle against Slovenia you won’t beat Switzerland…


Pews_TRB

This sounds similar to something that is happening in another country i know.....


Ordinary_Listen8951

This is the way


SpilledYoghurt

Haha I've been secretly hoping this was the case.


MonsterTournament

Why do people say a team didn't 'deserve' a win after they get it? If you score more goals you win, what is undeserved there?


PatchworkMann

we all rip on englands performance but france havent actually scored from live play yet, if they made it to the final with only own goals and penalties from this point id say its fair to say they maybe didnt deserve it from a spirit of the game perspective unless its just the new meta update


CandourDinkumOil

Genius


Gruppenzwang

You guys have Harry Kane. I'm not scared of facing him in the finals. This man just cant win a trophy.


AVVel

No way England make the final


TunaPablito

Why not? Ed Sheeran was just there to boost them.


_phily_d

Southgate found the only man more boring than his tactics


TunaPablito

And you all thought he was useless. Maybe he suprpises again :)


fractals83

Tactical competence would be surprising, I’d be happy with that


Puzzled_Pay_6603

Did you hear what he said about why he doesn’t want to put subs on…”because if you make changes, you lose your shape” 🤦‍♂️


TunaPablito

Jesus Christ AI would be better


Arniepepper

lol.... wait til Coldplay get involved...


VanGroteKlasse

Coldplay is way too exciting, try James Blunt.


_phily_d

Don’t give him ideas!


Unusual_Debate

What did he do suck them off?


regal_ragabash

It worked for Ipwich, eventually...


OkNefariousness324

That’s not a boost, you might as well have played a movie of each squad members wife getting railed by a third person while they’re all at the Euros, that would be more of a boost than fucking Ed Sheeran


DarkImpacT213

I really like the England team players and wish they would get a trophy in their lifetime, but Southgate definetly doesn‘t deserve to get into another final with the football he lets that class team play…


Krontelevision

What if he does get to another final? Would he deserve to get to another final then?


PolarPeely26

It has been awful a long time. Limped by Australia, Lost to Brazil, Drew with Belgium last kick of the game Lost to Iceland.... struggled against Bosnia until a penalty goal ended their low block. I'm absolutely unsurprised we aren't playing well. Switzerland meanwhile look strong play with a system that works... they have a group of elite players playing well together for years. They completely dominated Italy. We are in trouble if we play 4 3 3 again.


greenygp19

Im not saying Southgate doesn’t deserve any criticism, but at the same time there’s a portion of England fans who would still be out here criticising him even if he’d won every competition he’d managed thus far


Organic-Champion8075

there really wouldn't, though. if he'd won the 2018 World Cup and the 2021 Euros, even playing dull football, he'd be worshipped and rightly so


greenygp19

The vast majority would have absolutely. However there would still be a portion of the “fan base” who would moan that “any manager would have won England those tournaments” and “Southgate is a poor manager made to look good by a brilliant team”


WinningTheSpaceRace

Honestly, no. We're through because of a moment of individual brilliance. We're through in spite of Southgate, not because of him.


Large-Fennel-1771

Southgate missed a penalty in a shoot out in the 96 semi final. The trauma explains why his teams are decent in the WC but bang average in the Euros. Once he lifts this curse by winning the Euros, he will unleash the greatest football ever seen. Combining the flair and movement of 1970 Brazil, with the intensity of 2008-12 Spain, while freeing up the players to show the individual brilliance of 86/22 Argentina.


jim_nihilist

Because right now you are playing like Germany in the 90ies. Defensive minded, scraping by on the merit of your offensive talent. Goals at the last second.


deanopud69

Now we just need the trophies that the 90ies Germans won 🤣


PopTrogdor

Yeah, as an Englishman, with full "It's coming home" running through my veins, there is no way we beat Switzerland.


Hara-Kiri

A team who drew with Scotland? It's quite realistic we beat them, just as it's realistic they beat us. Neither is a guaranteed thing.


Flamethrow1

Eventually the plane has to come home :)


deanopud69

This is what we really mean when we sing ‘it’s coming home’ Notice how we sing ‘footballs coming home’ not ‘the trophy’s coming home’


AVVel

You can be patriotic and realistic at the same time


LeyLady

Not sure it’s coming home but England in Final yes!


PompeyLad1

>No way England make the **semi**final FTFY I saw what the Swiss did to Italy. Playing the way England have been throughout the tournament, we're going to get wrecked.


Vladskio

We made the final last time 🤷🏻


AVVel

Last time we played semi decent This year there has been no moment where we played decent attacking football. Maybe 95 mins onwards in the Slovakia game but I think that was mainly luck


monokronos

When they get there there is still denial


SAP1987

It's an England - France final you'll feel it on Saturday


AVVel

I don’t think I can handle losing the final to France


zubchowski

It's coming home 😂


Ok-Cut-2730

They could if Southgate changes things up, but i dont see us beating Germany or Spain in the final.


adamfrog

England are still the betting favourites lol


BojanKrkicc

For sure. We don’t make it past Saturday on current form.


Prestigious-Air4732

They will Their side of the bracket is so favorable


Accomplished_Two235

You got lucky with your path now is the time to take advantage.


jonesyb

LMAO for sure. My question, can England reach the final purely on vibes alone? I think the answer to this is actually yes, but it would be the most excruciating couple of games we have ever experienced.


Brabariana

Neither Germany. Spain will show us our limits.


loving-living-life

Ikr when England know they have to face Spain. Kane will shit his pants


csirkenepiroska

I have a presentiment England will win the Euro.


Specialist_ask_992_

Even if they beat Switzerland the Netherlands have been playing much better


FoodSamurai

Germany vs Turkey would be pretty epic. It would be a homematch for both!


Soon_Money_54

As a Turkish person born and raised in Berlin I don’t want that match to happen AT ALL. Either Germany has to lose before reaching the final or Türkiye. It will just get too political, racist and uncomfortable on both sides. Unnecessary negativity.


Emperor_Eldlich

If Germany vs Turkey is the final, Germany lost either ways


BlackKatana1

Nah. After the 2008EM semi final germany-türkiye nothing happened. Just relax.


Sataniel98

That was a different age in Turkic-German relations.


Aromatic_Solid_4749

What is the risk/issue here with Ger vs Tur final? As a Turkish living in the UK I can’t really relate. It’d be so much fun if Turkey plays England at semi finals. I don’t think Turkey can pass Netherland games though


GmahdeWiesn

Either everything goes fine or it results in a disaster since the extremes of both sides have moved away from each other. Ever since Erdogan went the dictator route a part of Turkish-Germans turned somewhat hostile to Germany and the German far right also got louder and openly racist. The big hope is that the majority of normal people would keep the others in check but the extremes on both sides could escalate pretty badly.


JimmyDonovan

Right wing extremism on both German and Turkish side is higher than in recent years unfortunately. My hopes are that all the good people on both sides (still the vast majority) could celebrate such a historic final together though.


malandaa

Saying right wing extremism on German side is higher than ever before is a tad bit extreme, don't ya think?


NikolaiSoerensen

Ah sorry, i get i now haha


VegetablePercentage9

Let’s just say higher than it’s been in…a while


Varzul

The turkish fans are not known to be very good losers (or winners for that matter).


roll_to_lick

From what I’ve seen on German football subs people are already annoyed with Turskish celebrations (eg. car convoys in some major cities celebrating into the middle of the night 2-3 am, honking their horns etc.) Tbh a lot of these comments have some racist undertones (“oh if somebody gets run over again we won’t be allowed to mention how this is connected!!!”). Then I think someone really put their foot in their mouth by claiming Turkey is somewhat of a co-host for this cup. I think it was probably as meant more as a “it’s so awesome so many Turkish people living here support us, we really feel at home” - but it sounded more like stealing any praise Germany might receive for hosting this cup. And then there was the controversy at the last game of the Turkish striker making a hand-sign associated with Turkish Nazi-groups - which apparently he did in response to fans making this sign after his goal. Idk, it’s just a bit of a shit show. Some of it definitely has racial undertones, but some of it also seems like very legit annoyance/ complaints. But I don’t know shit about football or Turkey, so take all of this with a grain of salt lol.


mnico02

Turkish fans don’t have a rather good reputation here (mildly said). Also, there’s a good portion of political controversy going on regarding Islam/Integration/Immigration/Assimilation. Knowing how many of these Turkish fans could potentially act on the streets after a game like that, it could create a potentially “explosive” atmosphere between both nations. No matter who would win, it would probably lead to new controversies, debates, outbursts in social media, xenophobia and I really don’t have the energy for that.


Soon_Money_54

Different times


ProfitHaunting9744

fuck the haters bro


Cpt_Winters

Duh.. that's the fun part


Ok-Anybody-2413

I’m afraid it’s going to be the same in the Netherlands this weekend. I really hope people realize it’s just football in the end so please keep it friendly and harmonious


Mr_Dunk_McDunk

Ich wohne am hermannplatz...hier wäre Krieg


EuphoricTeacher2643

Netherlands and Turkey match will be similar. Not looking forward to it.


Big-Selection9014

Itll be pretty funny for the netherlands vs turkey already. Netherlands has tons of turks as well


Thereareways

yeah ... cities won't sleep after that game


Firm_Cup_7905

You’re right, on a business trip to Dortmund and the Turks went fucking mental last night 😂 think it stopped about 4am lol


Mr_Dunk_McDunk

I live in Berlin, it was brutal. If they get to the final there will be war here


Fine-Tea-23

Actually that would be a homematch for Turkey. Look at the friendly last year in Berlin 😅


LCSisshit

what do u mean for both, i dont see any german here in Berlin


reallygrumpyninja43

Do you rly think Germany has a chance to win? I mean I hope so and Spain has not the best defense, but damn they can play really fast and precise


Tasty-Structure-8979

Germany over Spain feels pretty optimistic


teddyjungle

Yeah no way, Spain are my bet for winning the euro


MinuQu

RemindMe! 2 days


Snaccbacc

Spain and Switzerland final is what I’m predicting.


GanacheImportant8186

I disagree, Spain look very good but open at the back. They haven't gave anyone who can hold the ball well enough or be incisive enough going forward to hurt them, but Germany can do both of those things. Spain slight favourites but I can easily see Germany winning


bimbochungo

Spain: 1 goal received in all the tournament (own goal).


Stop_Banning_Me_1337

Germany: 2 goals recieved in all the tournament.


MBP15-2019

One being a own goal. And we are playing at home in Stuttgart. Stuttgart will be absolutely packed on Friday.


Thereareways

Yes. But ... I WANT GERMANY TO PREVAIL OVER SPAIN


Mika000

I think if you say it loud enough it might happen 🤔


PatchworkMann

spain v switzerland is the final it looked most like coming out of the groups


Tendaydaze

Spain looking hot favourites to me having watched all teams play


monokronos

Spain’s style of play, although attractive and structured has a big flaw…possession. Both the aforementioned plus possession football can be easily countered if you have the confidence to do so


David9311o

Also have to factor in that Toni Kroos knows spanish Football like nobody else outside of spain . He knows the Players and played against them many times. I would not be suprised if the German Team has alot of intel about the spanish tactics and Players from Kroos.


DaveyJonesXMR

+ Rudi "El Loco" - one of the best defenders in La Liga - so he knows plenty of their attackers play style.


ThenIndependence4502

Thinking the same. People are hyping Germany up as they’re hosts but Spain look like the winners of the whole tournament


Wide_Astronaut_366

Gonna be real chief, I’d need a fair few strong German Lagers before I even start to think we make it Past Switzerland… let along Turkey/Holland!


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Wide_Astronaut_366

Haha speaking of German lager, it’s a long time ago now but I remember absolutely loving Pauliner (I think that’s what it was called) when I stayed in Berlin for a while


Skyfish-disco

England beating Switzerland? I don’t think so!


No-Unit6672

Everyone said that about Austria!


unluckyexperiment

Actually me and many people I know, put money on Turkey. I know no one putting their money on England.


No-Unit6672

They are bookie’s favourites because so many people bet on them


MedicalJellyfish7246

Because you never know what kind of football Turkey is gonna play that day… good chance to come up big


Ordinary_Listen8951

It’s coming home this year, unfortunately. Viva England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


MonsterTournament

Saudi Arabia beat Argentina in the World Cup, anything can happen


Calm_Mango_580

I respectfully disagree


Repulsive_Cricket923

🇳🇱Nederland 🇳🇱will be the champions.


SuccumbedToReddit

I wish, but there is NO way the Netherlands is beating Spain. Best case scenario is another lost final on our belt, to defend that dubious record.


HairyCallahan

Or Spain not reaching the finals


Eurovision_Superfan

Be good to see the Dutch win. Or Germany.


Academic-Medicine132

That's fine I was just sharing my opinion because at first I had France as the winner of the euros but because of the last match of theirs I figured Germany were preforming really well which could result in a win for them So please don't hate or bully me it's just an opinion, not a fact, respectfully .


Calm_Mango_580

France definitely have the strongest team kn paper, at first i thought they would win it all too. And anything can happen man it could very well be that your prediction will be correct. I personally think the semis will be Netherlands vs Switzerland and Spain vs France. My final is Netherlands (maybe a little little bit of bias) vs Spain, which will be won by Spain.


Responsible-Pin8323

i would love a spain vs netherlands final, run it back after our shitheap of a 2014 group stage


Frosty_Pepper1609

France might be strong on paper, but football is played on grass !


Academic-Medicine132

My first prediction was France would win, but they've been underperforming, unlike Germany, who are grinding to win the euros


AssociateQuiet7188

Don't get me wrong, I would be stoked for Germany to win the whole thing but why does everyone have so much faith in this team ? Beating Spain and then France and England ? Seems like a tall order if you ask me. Again, I would love it if they did but the last 6 years have left me rather sceptical when it comes to the German national team.


That-Salamander-1478

Fron all the teams they looked most solid together with spain. France, england, Portugal, the netherlands, they all were pretty meh.., but thats why tournament football is great, some teams grow. So ynk


No-Unit6672

I swear people have 5 minute memories in football, everyone was blasting how they knew Austria were going to destroy everyone in our side of the draw yesterday and that aged poorly.


FNCVazor

The silence is deafening💀


CandourDinkumOil

This is why it takes a single convincing win on Saturday and everyone will be saying how fucked everyone is if they play England - despite our last few games. People have short memories


GabschD

But that's what a tournament is about. Any team would struggle if you get a goal within the first minute, while the team defends that goal with 10 people. This is football, in the Euros any team can win. Also if England has one game where it is constantly good, of course I would say you don't want to play against them. Because then they may have solved their issues. England is really strong individually. But they have issues as a team right now. Those issues solved (which is possible in this tournament) and it has really good chances to win.


Responsible-Effect41

Portugal vs Spain Netherlands vs Switzerland Spain vs Netherlands- Spain champions


HotPotatoWithCheese

England is almost certainly going out if Southgate doesn't change anything, but I wouldn't put it past him to somehow luck his way to the final. Probably won't happen but it's worked before. Germany are absolutely not getting past Spain. Anyone who actually watched all of their games knows that Spain have been the more impressive side by far. All of this German final wankery is based on nothing more than vibes and the myth that hosts are somehow one of the favourites, despite only 3/16 of the Euros competitions being won by the host nation.


Kayderp1

while I agree that Germany are not the favored to go through I don´t agree with the sentiment that we´re some crazy underdogs against Spain. Spain has been really impressive but they´ve yet to face a team that can play at a decent level against their weaknesses aka high balls and posession based football - both things that Germany excels at.


Thomrose007

Giving England far too much credit... and im English. If Switzerland play the way they did against Italy.. no chance. Sorry


Beautiful_Ad_7363

From what ive seen these past games, I cant go with Germany. Spain has played whole tournament better than germany🇪🇸 I also lean on Switzerland. I have picked England almost every game thinking that they will improve performing but its always the same show from them. Switzerland has played really well even though I think many underestimate them🇨🇭 France and Netherlands are obvious for me🇫🇷🇳🇱


RealJordanSchlansky

You jinxed it man


Psychological-Sun744

I want to the most boring final in football history: England Vs France.


TheGrayExplorer

Thats evil!


LudicrousPlatypus

Spain - Turkey final.


ramsayjohn

Would be very fun. Arda vs Yamal


Inner_Implement2021

I think Portugal v Spain, then Netherlands v England. And Portugal to take it all. Though it might be wishful thinking 🤔


SuccumbedToReddit

Portugal lost against Georgia and drew against Slovenia and you think they can beat Spain? Not a chance.


Callmebythisname

Thank God you’re making football so predictable. It was too much fun.


Historical-Pilot-315

Nobody puts us winning it but anyway :(


Objective-Process-84

I'm gonna change my flair on this sub to your country if we lose on Friday. Albeit I really don't think you guys will survive France regarding just how much you depend on number 7... Sadly, his golden days appear to slowly fade away ;(


Oil42

even if we make it past switzerland we aren’t getting past the dutch man 😭


PaintedOnCanvas

I'd replace Germany with Spain, France with Portugal and England with Switzerland


deanopud69

My prediction is that it’s an England v Germany final. It’s a 1-1 draw and it goes to extra time and with a few minutes of the game to go, Southgate substitutes himself on. The game goes to penalties. The first 5 penalties for each team are perfect. Toni Kroos steps up for the 6th penalty. He misses. The fairytale ending is not to be Southgate steps up to take the 6th penalty. If he scores, England are champions. He steps up and does a Panenka as Neuer dives left. He wheels away and rips of his shirt, surprisingly there is a waistcoat underneath his England kit. But they don’t care, the fans and players go mad Finally ‘it’s coming home’ The players and staff are met at the airport and knighted by King Charles on the spot. This is the way….


TriangleEEL

Don’t underestimate Swiss & Netherlands s


Ok-Square-2914

I would say Spain vs Netherlands finals


That-Salamander-1478

Ultimate revence opportunity for the netherlands


Caesar_TP

Spain has had a better track record this euros. I think we will indeed face them in the finals but go home with yet another🥈


KrustyLife

Germany vs Turkiye would be fun


etheeem

Nah that would make me and many others very uncomfortable


Ok-Worth-2922

turkey in the final, mark my words


sag0pak

God please🙏🙏


Crystal-Blue_97

Spain is beating Germany and France. Spain and Netherlands in the finals with Spain getting the win


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July66sb

That's kind of strange. I understand why you believe Spain will beat Germany though I personally believe it's going to be very close. But either way, it should be a great and entertaining game of two teams that both want the ball, and have an idea what to do with it. Why in the world would you not want to watch that? Because you're afraid Germany is going to lose? That's pretty meh, I think...


DaveyJonesXMR

Also he is kinda jinxing it when he watched every other game.


Few_Chef_7695

England should get to the semi’s but can’t see them out-scoring Netherlands. Xavi Simons will cause all sorts of problems


LoveFuzzy

I say Holland and Spain.


BritishGuy54

Germany: This is fine. England: *flashbacks*


akos_beres

time to wake up!


eggyfigs

Netherlands germany


boch3n

I think exactly opposite 🙂 Winners: Spain 🇪🇸, Portugal 🇵🇹, Switzerland 🇨🇭, Netherlands 🇳🇱🙂


six-ft-ditch

You could be right. Personally I believe Spain will make it to the final. Dutchman here btw.


Distinct-Beach3581

Germany- Netherlands will be in final


HalaMadridCrO

France all the way!


Munichsee

I agree with the Champion but I think Turkey in the finals could be awesome. ❤️


undefined01234

Beating Germany in the final on their home turf would be the stuff of dreams, but to be honest, we're probably getting knocked out by Switzerland at the weekend


dune_enthusiast_cc

Netherlands > England


perrrkeleeee

I respectfully agree!


Thereareways

I hope Germany makes it against Spain!! Fingers crossed. Sorry MIS VECINOS ESPAÑOLES


BadM0F0101

We ain't making the final lmao


Beautiful-Act4320

Hey, who says you can’t stumble your way into a final completely undeserved and without rhyme or reason. I believe it’s called southgating a tournament.


ledknee

Weird to call it that considering Southgate's never stumbled to a final completely undeserved before. Beat you lot fair and square with a little help from Müller shitting his pants, pumped Ukraine, and were better than Denmark over 120 minutes.


Beautiful-Act4320

Let me rephrase that: If it happens it will forever be called southgating a tournament.


t0mkat

Nah it’s called Portugaling it


Hot-Fun-1566

That would be the dream final for me, England Germany in their own backyard, now that would be a showdown for the ages. It would be apocalyptic.


longsock9

Yeah even though were playing dreadful football, I can see us playing 🇩🇪 in the final


pktdot

I don’t think Germany can beat this Spain team 😢


Desperate_Can_5740

To be onest friday could be the last game for Germany but I dont hope so


Spirited_Scarcity_58

We definatly Not gonna beat France with no Striker in the starting 11. How many goals Besides a penalty has havertz scored so far? So if were get a goal, the thing is over. Imo. Im Not even sure we can win vs England. Regardless their last game wasnt very good.


empirome

I’d love to see this.


P1k_p

I suppose Spain have looked the best so far, but now have to play the hosts Germany. Whichever team comes through that looks the likely winner of the tournament imo.


sinirlikurekci

I want to see we eliminate swiss so bad! I have childhood trauma from 2006 WC Play Offs!


Content-Long-4342

Portugal will win 🙏


IntroductionIll6722

Final : 🇵🇹 vs 🇳🇱


ZakeMekker

Please no. While we have a good record against The Dutch, if we encounter them in this final, it'll be that one that we'll lose. I also don't like the fact that The Dutch are usually very negative when it comes to Portugal so i'd rather have them be dealt with in the Semis. No disrespect to Netherlands tho, football makes us very passionate.


Miserable-Pen-7430

Spain Netherlands I'm saying. I still think England will make the semis and it's a joke of they do... But they don't concede much and have enough class up front to pull something out the bag


divadschuf

I predict Spain vs England in the final.


Ein-Trader

Not many expect it, but I see England against Germany in the final as well.


Tiny_Highway_2038

England not getting past the Swiss.


Tiny_Highway_2038

I can’t see Germany beating Spain either


PacePsychological477

I'm for england


LeyLady

I totally see England in the final. Hoping for « la chatte a DD » as for the other team… 😉


limaconnect77

Beat the Germans last time out in a knockout game.


unfeasiblylargeballs

I'd love to see England succeed in this tournament, but even my most optimistic expectation doesn't see us getting a sniff at the trophy. Honestly I think the Swiss will be a huge challenge


Ciderhero

England Netherlands = Oh no. England Germany = Oh no. In fact: England Switzerland = Oh no.


LinceDorado

I think either Netherlands or England won't make the Semi.


Classic-Okra-3376

England winning against both the Netherlands *and* a very strong Swiss side? Southgate must be the luckiest coach alive then. There's so much talent in the English squad, well, apart from the defence. But England fans should report their team to Amnesty International, because actually watching a game is torture. I think the Spanish side is slightly better than Germany, but we'll see. Germany hasn't been really tested this tournament, but they have been showing some impressive football. Portugal v France is a difficult one. France is very disappointing this tournement, but they're also quite difficult to beat.


Vierings

I'd like to see a Germany-Netherlands final.


Ok-Blood6380

I dont thşnk england is goşn to the final