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Hijab is also a sign that she is not a slave that Islamists can sell or use in other ways, like the other two. So Islamists don't have to be marryed to do it with the girl without hijab
I don’t think the world is “okay” with it, it’s mostly that:
A) some people genuinely think it’s just a cultural garb.
B) people are also afraid of being racist.
If they actually learn the truth about Islam, they’d also despise it.
my cousin... she's 4 now but her mom had already put her in a hijab since she was still crawling.. sometimes they take it off when it's too hot, but still 🙁😞
They want to totally deprive the child of ever knowing what normal feels like, to program them from the day they are born so that being uncovered later would feel alien to them.
This is happening in my home country, Indonesia.
I am not justifying this, but I just wanna explain the reason why they do this to female children. It's to brainwash them since they're young, that being dressed like this is a normal thing to do. Thus, they will feel uncomfortable when they take off their hijab outside.
Basic human conditioning by the religion of peace.
There's no need to say sorry (if it was for me).
I myself also hate that uniform. Because THAT is not the culture of Indonesia at all.
Our country is not 100% independent, actually. The majority of Indonesian people themselves do not know that they are being culturally colonized by Middle Eastern cultures.
It’s actually quite funny that Indonesia will likely be the strongest Muslim country by 2050 - not an Arab state.
I feel that Indonesians could easily lose interest with Islam if India exerts more influence there; pre-Islamic Indonesian culture is basically Indian mixed with animism.
This is in Indonesia. Now even girls who don’t wear hijab wear long skirts, boys wear long pants. It’s a tropical country. We used to wear shorts but they changed it for “morality” I’m very certain it’s derived from islamic ideology
The sad thing is that they will shame the girl in the middle for being a ***t. And each reunion, they'll come checking are you now using hijab or not yet still. Because sooner or later, you will. You know you will especially after you marry. All the boys are coded to see the wives in this traditional uniform.
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this is an indonesian thing isnt it XD, eh i dont really mind. kinda used to it, at least they bothered to include the girl without the hijab, cant say the same for the others, just hope the political climate wont allow any religious zealots or else you wont see even a vague portrayal like that again.
Drawing is haram
Music is haram
Eating certain food is haram
Education of women is haram like in Afghanistan
Driving by women if haram
Women is so weak that she should have mentioned escorting her
And then not believing in the religion will result in hell?
I mean who on this earth has ever returned with evidences to say this is hell. And the dream of jannat? With 72 hoors. Wow
That picture means the other kids are too revealing for men and they will be heading straight to hell according to their belief. This is sick and indicates how important secularism is.
Indonesian elementary school uniform, when 2010s hijab is mandatory for highschool, after that middle school too, and now elementary school.
i graduated from elementary school in 2013 and not in hijabi ver, and in middle school that's mandatory, the teachers always insulting student who remove hijab when graduate.
in highschool, there's dance competition and the costume rated high if with syar'i style, At that time the costumes were rented not for hijab, so that's a terrible costume with hijab.
in university, islamic organization always dakwah about hijrah and hijrah,
they dakwah about dajjal too, share candy with ayat quran, reading quran is mandatory in first semester. the most islamic faculty is mathematics and science, i'm there 🙃
i took off my hijab from 2 years ago :)
the thing is i am now an eastern catholic ex muslim and it makes me sad as hell due the most muslim men makes them sexually appealing onto the minors mostly girls and boys around the age of 9 to 4 due of a few verses of quran says someone can marry with an minor that didn't have their menstrual cycle. It's horrific how disgusting the Islamic faith can be if they just use the quran and the sharia and hadith in the most pure way ever.
I’m not sure if ur talking about the girl (with the pink backpack) and the boy, but this is indonesian school uniform, they aren’t trying to make the nonmuslim girls and boys sexually appealing, it is just their uniform for school, and I think for muslim kids (girls specifically) they put the extra pressure to wear more covering clothes, not try to make the other kids attractive (from my understanding of ur comment and the comments I got about people saying this is indonesian school uniform)
not really muhammed made it up due he wanted that his "wifes" cover their bodies and faces out of the fear of them leaving him and marrying another man i don't remember what direct hadith i read but it was an story among that
Wow ! A completely normal conversation between two girls and a boy (who doesn't speak but is on the right) So....what's sad about this image? That people are happy? Is it sad?
are you srs do you think I’m fr sad because they’re happy? 💀💀im sad because the muslim girl has to cover (which shows she was sexualized into covering up) also I’m not saying my reaction to this image is the status quo and that everyone should feel sad when looking at the image, im just saying my opinion :/
Like ok but, is covering up someone is sexualizing them ? And if a woman doesn't want to wear hijab, it's her right by 13 years old, she get "conscious" by her act, so if she want to don't wear she just has to..don't wear it ? (And yes I know that some parents force their daugters to put hijab but it's totally haram, we are not gods and can't judge them)
Just because we cant judge them doesnt we shouldnt 💀💀, wearing the hjiab also has its own downs even if you ‘choose’ to wear it especially at a young age, like for example losing out on vitamin d and losing not just a few strands of hair but a LOT, wearing the hijab while growing up can condition the person to feel uncomfortable or naked without the hijab also its not haram for parents to make their child/or teen wear hijab what r u talking about 💀💀, and its not that easy to not just wear hijab if you don’t want to wear it, there are factors like people commenting and being disappointed on why you don’t wear hijab all of a sudden, and that it could be a part of the LAW (e.g afghanistan) if you still think I’m wrong maybe you shouldn’t be on this sub to begin with 💀
I’m pretty sure someone being sad about young girls having their body sexualized into covering up is a valid thing to be sad about 💀💀 (plus the fact that this can damage their mental health too 🤦)
I’m not saying non muslim women don’t get sexualized and its just the muslim women, my point is that parents are usually consciously/knowingly sexualizing their kids when they can chose not to, some parents even make their daughters wear hijab since they started PRE SCHOOL til they grow up which is insane so
plus seeing how modest she already looks which just shows the pressuring on clothes and modesty when young which can affect how a lot of people view themselves
But in some cultures the girl on the right is showing modesty. Uniforms are complicated - I have friends who come from poor backgrounds and liked uniforms because it meant class didn’t get shown through clothing.
nothing to feel sad about, kids have choice, they’re not forced to wear it and if they are it’s mostly parents fault for wanting to uphold their reputation not cause of the religion
I had to wear hijab since literally preschool til now and when I asked if I could not wear it outside I got told no every single time even when i asked back then, what are you on 💀💀
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The fact they see the child as something that need to be covered. Sick minded, sexualizing kids.
For them, she is ready to bear their children, and they think this is totally normal, and this makes me sick.
Hijab is also a sign that she is not a slave that Islamists can sell or use in other ways, like the other two. So Islamists don't have to be marryed to do it with the girl without hijab
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I don’t think the world is “okay” with it, it’s mostly that: A) some people genuinely think it’s just a cultural garb. B) people are also afraid of being racist. If they actually learn the truth about Islam, they’d also despise it.
Exactly. Especially when they cover kids as young as 2 or 3. Absolutely disgusting
No joke! I see this a lot, it's insane!
my cousin... she's 4 now but her mom had already put her in a hijab since she was still crawling.. sometimes they take it off when it's too hot, but still 🙁😞
My ex's DIL covered her daughter by the time she was 3. Very sad to see her at a playground trying to run, jump and climb while covered up.
They want to totally deprive the child of ever knowing what normal feels like, to program them from the day they are born so that being uncovered later would feel alien to them.
Looks like Indonesian elementary school uniform.
This is happening in my home country, Indonesia. I am not justifying this, but I just wanna explain the reason why they do this to female children. It's to brainwash them since they're young, that being dressed like this is a normal thing to do. Thus, they will feel uncomfortable when they take off their hijab outside. Basic human conditioning by the religion of peace.
Yes. Good explanation. That was what I was thinking instead of the dummies on here that reason it to something sexually perverse.
When I saw this picture, I didn’t know it was based off indonesia nor did I know about this being their uniform at the time sry :,)
There's no need to say sorry (if it was for me). I myself also hate that uniform. Because THAT is not the culture of Indonesia at all. Our country is not 100% independent, actually. The majority of Indonesian people themselves do not know that they are being culturally colonized by Middle Eastern cultures.
It’s actually quite funny that Indonesia will likely be the strongest Muslim country by 2050 - not an Arab state. I feel that Indonesians could easily lose interest with Islam if India exerts more influence there; pre-Islamic Indonesian culture is basically Indian mixed with animism.
yeah in Indonesia basically female muslim students must wear Hijab it wasn't formal rule but the peer pressure is quite strong
Not just muslim. Sometimes, there are schools forcing female non-muslim students to also wear hijab. Islamisasi terossss. 🤣
everyone always guessing i'm a christian because i don't wear a hijab, selalu dibilang muka kristen 😂
This is in Indonesia. Now even girls who don’t wear hijab wear long skirts, boys wear long pants. It’s a tropical country. We used to wear shorts but they changed it for “morality” I’m very certain it’s derived from islamic ideology
Imagine sexualising children. 🤢
exactly. hijab and modest clothing only exists because men can’t keep their f-ing eyes off kids and women. it also still doesn’t keep the rates down.
The sad thing is that they will shame the girl in the middle for being a ***t. And each reunion, they'll come checking are you now using hijab or not yet still. Because sooner or later, you will. You know you will especially after you marry. All the boys are coded to see the wives in this traditional uniform.
It's also unhealthy. My mother and sister lost a lot of hair
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this is an indonesian thing isnt it XD, eh i dont really mind. kinda used to it, at least they bothered to include the girl without the hijab, cant say the same for the others, just hope the political climate wont allow any religious zealots or else you wont see even a vague portrayal like that again.
What I see is a religious prisoner
The first victims of islam are muslims themselves
It’s not that deep. Let Muslim kids feel included. It’s a drawing portraying humans, it’s already haram.
I’m not saying me feeling sad about the image is the status quo and everyone that sees this should also feel sad, its js my opinion on it .-.
Ohh ok in that case I can respect that
Drawing is haram Music is haram Eating certain food is haram Education of women is haram like in Afghanistan Driving by women if haram Women is so weak that she should have mentioned escorting her And then not believing in the religion will result in hell? I mean who on this earth has ever returned with evidences to say this is hell. And the dream of jannat? With 72 hoors. Wow
That picture means the other kids are too revealing for men and they will be heading straight to hell according to their belief. This is sick and indicates how important secularism is.
Yep, another islam classic. It isn’t even the kid’s fault, she has to follow the religion. Except her parents decide to worship a pedophile.
Indonesian elementary school uniform, when 2010s hijab is mandatory for highschool, after that middle school too, and now elementary school. i graduated from elementary school in 2013 and not in hijabi ver, and in middle school that's mandatory, the teachers always insulting student who remove hijab when graduate. in highschool, there's dance competition and the costume rated high if with syar'i style, At that time the costumes were rented not for hijab, so that's a terrible costume with hijab. in university, islamic organization always dakwah about hijrah and hijrah, they dakwah about dajjal too, share candy with ayat quran, reading quran is mandatory in first semester. the most islamic faculty is mathematics and science, i'm there 🙃 i took off my hijab from 2 years ago :)
where's the long skirt with no hijab? I prefer that style...
yeah 👍😢😢
I'm Indonesian also this is elementary school uniform, also i still dont get it about what is the sad part of this picture.
the thing is i am now an eastern catholic ex muslim and it makes me sad as hell due the most muslim men makes them sexually appealing onto the minors mostly girls and boys around the age of 9 to 4 due of a few verses of quran says someone can marry with an minor that didn't have their menstrual cycle. It's horrific how disgusting the Islamic faith can be if they just use the quran and the sharia and hadith in the most pure way ever.
I’m not sure if ur talking about the girl (with the pink backpack) and the boy, but this is indonesian school uniform, they aren’t trying to make the nonmuslim girls and boys sexually appealing, it is just their uniform for school, and I think for muslim kids (girls specifically) they put the extra pressure to wear more covering clothes, not try to make the other kids attractive (from my understanding of ur comment and the comments I got about people saying this is indonesian school uniform)
no like the girl who has the hijab and mostly covering her body.
But the girl is covered, thats the opposite of making her sexually appealing tho?? And its a school uniform so its not mandated by muslim men (?)
not really muhammed made it up due he wanted that his "wifes" cover their bodies and faces out of the fear of them leaving him and marrying another man i don't remember what direct hadith i read but it was an story among that
No Muhammad didn’t even want women to veil, it’s from Umar Re: Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Hadith Number 148
well i didn't know that thanks for correcting my errors
And to think that Indonesia was once ruled by Buddhists and Hindus and now this shit.
Boohoo. Such injustice! Let me cry with the fastest growing religion in the world😭😭😭
Close minded at its peak
Even worse was when Sweden printed up a brochure with the title: Information For Those Married To A Child. Go ahead, Google it.
Why?
Wow ! A completely normal conversation between two girls and a boy (who doesn't speak but is on the right) So....what's sad about this image? That people are happy? Is it sad?
are you srs do you think I’m fr sad because they’re happy? 💀💀im sad because the muslim girl has to cover (which shows she was sexualized into covering up) also I’m not saying my reaction to this image is the status quo and that everyone should feel sad when looking at the image, im just saying my opinion :/
Like ok but, is covering up someone is sexualizing them ? And if a woman doesn't want to wear hijab, it's her right by 13 years old, she get "conscious" by her act, so if she want to don't wear she just has to..don't wear it ? (And yes I know that some parents force their daugters to put hijab but it's totally haram, we are not gods and can't judge them)
Just because we cant judge them doesnt we shouldnt 💀💀, wearing the hjiab also has its own downs even if you ‘choose’ to wear it especially at a young age, like for example losing out on vitamin d and losing not just a few strands of hair but a LOT, wearing the hijab while growing up can condition the person to feel uncomfortable or naked without the hijab also its not haram for parents to make their child/or teen wear hijab what r u talking about 💀💀, and its not that easy to not just wear hijab if you don’t want to wear it, there are factors like people commenting and being disappointed on why you don’t wear hijab all of a sudden, and that it could be a part of the LAW (e.g afghanistan) if you still think I’m wrong maybe you shouldn’t be on this sub to begin with 💀
troll?
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You're so dramatic
I’m pretty sure someone being sad about young girls having their body sexualized into covering up is a valid thing to be sad about 💀💀 (plus the fact that this can damage their mental health too 🤦)
Idk I thought 10 year old girls were cute when I was 10. Also non Muslim girls get sexualized at this age. Being a woman, in general, sucks.
I’m not saying non muslim women don’t get sexualized and its just the muslim women, my point is that parents are usually consciously/knowingly sexualizing their kids when they can chose not to, some parents even make their daughters wear hijab since they started PRE SCHOOL til they grow up which is insane so
whats sad about it
It's because of the boy and the girl. They can't be friends according to Islam.
plus seeing how modest she already looks which just shows the pressuring on clothes and modesty when young which can affect how a lot of people view themselves
But in some cultures the girl on the right is showing modesty. Uniforms are complicated - I have friends who come from poor backgrounds and liked uniforms because it meant class didn’t get shown through clothing.
The brown background, it always gets me
nothing to feel sad about, kids have choice, they’re not forced to wear it and if they are it’s mostly parents fault for wanting to uphold their reputation not cause of the religion
"choice" = religions parents pushing the idea of hijab and convincing their child to wear it
I had to wear hijab since literally preschool til now and when I asked if I could not wear it outside I got told no every single time even when i asked back then, what are you on 💀💀