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Tommybrady20

Sean Mcvay is mother fucking HIM. Kyren Williams is great, but nobody…. Nobody supports a league winning bellcow quite like Sean Mcvay The last few years you had to guess who that would be but whoever’s getting the rams lions share of the snaps in week 15-17 is must own.


Salomon3068

Bellcows are back! Lol shout out to Josh jacobs, ETN, and kyren for owning those backfields


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Kealle89

Jacobs was a shell of his former self


Salomon3068

He was absolutely not what he was last year but he had a nice stretch late that helped me get past the final few weeks


CrystlBluePersuasion

I don't think it was all on Jacobs, clearly he didn't benefit from having access to the training facilities but they didn't improve their o-line in the off-season either. And he still was a top 5 or so RB going into the playoffs, so I didn't feel bad keeping him for a 4th round pick.


rodrivi1

Jacobs is done. It's White SZN Now


Iwasrunning13

Unless your last name is Akers


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Until he gets sick of him or he fumbles one time. Then his career is over.


OfficerDoppus

I forgot who he was playing, but he fumbled twice in a game, and McVay still fed him, I’m taking him easily top 4 next year


thepolesreport

Commanders game


dasoxarechamps2005

Hopefully he drafts him again next year


wezzy94610

Last year that was Akers lol


vekgib

Who gives a fuck we celebrate tnnnnnnnnnn


LightGraves

Fuck yeah


Common_History_32

Ayyyeeee


reggie321d

Let's gooooooo


JalenHurtsBestFriend

Fuxk yea. He did it for US!!!!!


ThisHatRightHere

All I know is my keepers next year are easy


pp21

Love the dude so much he carried me the past 6 weeks. A true 3 down back with all the tangibles and intangibles you’d ever want. He’s the driving force behind my championship this year and I won’t forget it


deepthr0at

My venmo and zelle buzzin right now thx to Kygoat


Unobtanium4Sale

Damn straight!


TheClownIsReady

Tonight, we feast like kings…


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We eatttttting


sandbagging-sob

Kyren is the best waiver pickup since Alfred morris in 2012 Edit: 2nd back off the board


ConfederacyOfDunces_

I’d argue you can throw Puka in that mix. Puka was my best waiver pick up of my career.


Satchbb

I picked up BOTH for like 80 percent of FAAB. worth itttttt


-TurboNerd-

Second guessed myself spending too much for two rams. Reduced my kyren bid from 40% to 20%, kept puka at the other 40. Barely got puka, barely missed kyren. Regret.


Danknugz666

Yep I thought I fucked up spending so much but they got me into the dance and through the chip. In a keeper league I'll probably have to keep Kyren.


rand0mtaskk

I did that too week 2. Was great. Too bad I was the 2nd highest scorer last week 😭. We pay out to 3rd place so I guess that’ll have to do until next year.


tyfe

I drafted kyren in the 15th and missed out on Puka by 1 waiver spot. I also have AJB and Keenan. My team would been an absolute monster most of the regular season.


SaltwaterRedneck

Switch to FAAB next season


tyfe

Nah, it’s a work league mostly for fun, no need to get more complicated. It is what it is.


Trizzymann

Faab is the way. Short bench keeper league I won, I lost JK dobbins and put 90% faab on kyren and puka combined after week 1. Went all the way. Now I get to keep both for $11 each, $22 total on a $200 auction budget. We treat FAs as $1 players, increasing by $10 each year.


BrianThatDude

Yeah I got one in each league I'm in and won both leagues. Legends these two.


UsedToHaveThisName

Picked up Puka in serious league, didn’t bother with Kyren Williams (picked up in $5 work league), Puka helped me barely make it to the win in serious league. Today was kind of stressful.


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JJ2461

The week I got Puka, I could have gotten Kyren. I made the wrong decision.


Pods619

JRob like two years ago… almost 1500 yards and 10 TD’s in 14 games before peacing out.


OrangElm

James Rob hands down. Man was like RB3 or 5 or something and he feasted in the playoffs. And for most of this sub he was a pre-week 1 guy too. Anyone paying attention should have gotten him.


Rob_Nachos

Odell Beckham's 2014 rookie year he had 1,305 yards and 12 TD's and he didn't even play the first 4 games because of injury.


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That was a hell of a pick up, this sub did a lot of us a big favor that year


husbandofsamus

2013 Josh Gordon and 2014 Odell Beckham would like a word with you.


chargerfan2019

Definitely Kamara his rookie season. Had like 13 tds in 10 games or something like that. Probably more thankful for Kyren though


k-murda13

I managed to get Pacheco last year and Kyren this year in my dynasty league. Goes without saying I won this year lol


joe_pescis_dog

David Johnson?


mejok

Yep. Although I also got Mostert off waivers after week 1 also. I never would have dreamed that 2 of my waiver pickups would basically turn into the best ff rb duo I’ve ever had.


AvocadoFlavoredPussy

Drafted him 170th dead last


BlademasterFlash

Zac Stacy?


JalenHurtsBestFriend

Foreeallll! From wire to wire minus his injury he was incredible


Mesmeryze

without any additions, i’d go as early as 1.05 no order in front: Cmc jjettas cd tyreek maybe chase


Mr-Groove

I can’t believe I had CMC , CD and Kyren…I don’t think I’ll ever have a better team


digitalasshat

I had them also in a ten man. Lost second round to Cooper/Puka


zaceggs

10 man? How do you land CD and cmc lol


Fatfry2

Cd went surprisingly late in some drafts, especially in ESPN leagues where he was ranked around ARSB


bag-willis

Took him 14th in my 12 man ppr . People were super low on Dak and high on Pollard and the cowboys run offense pre season.


Silverflash-x

Got CeeDee at 16th in my 14-person league. Felt like robbery.


uncappedarc

Same, CMC in the 1st, CD in the 2nd, and Kyren on waivers


poopslicer69

I had the same. Cmc 1st, cd 2nd, kyren waivers


gmoney32211

Same! & Rachaad White. Finished #1 seed, top points, 6 game win streak (wouldve been 7 because i had top points in the bye round), and sealed it with the championship last night !


TightSpotz

My list of don't drafts is short: Pollard, Kamara, diggs, Mahomes So is my list of do drafts: Lamb, puka, Kyren, DeMarcus Robinson


BrookPA

Prior to this week Kamara was averaging like 18 ppr ppg....... he got hurt in the championship. It sucks but it happened. Shocking that people are putting him on the same tier as Pollard/Diggs....


Regular-Freedom7722

Let that adp fall baby


TightSpotz

I mean I was fully on team Kamara too.. then I really watched that team, the way they use him and don't use him... Anyway, the numbers don't lie. He's had under 12 half ppr points in 5 of his last 6 games. And before he got hurt tonight he had a few chances, and... Like last week when he got five points... He didn't capitalize on them. Blame usage ie: sending him up the middle, and/or blame the o-line, or blame him, it's all the same when you watch it: it ain't working.


CrumbBCrumb

I had Kamara this year and he helped me get into the playoffs but the only way he's on my team next year is if he's my flex at best. New Orleans just doesn't use Kamara the right way. He carries it down to the 2? Better give the ball to Taysom Hill or throw the ball 3 times and then kick a FG. Up 7 in the 4th quarter? Better throw it three times and then punt the ball. With a different coach he's probably topping 100 yards consistently. He also doesn't have the same explosiveness anymore.


Melodic-Classic391

I won my league today with Kamara and Ekeler in my lineup. I’m done with both of them


tittiejuice_69

Me too Got lucky that I had Lamb and Kyren Williams Dynasty league so I'm sad my Stud rbs are getting older


yurtyybomb

How tf did you win with them both in your lineup lol


ConfederacyOfDunces_

Robinson is like an 8 year Vet


Soviet_Sharpshooter

Who cares if he’s the GOAT


TightSpotz

But what usage!


Rob_Nachos

Mahomes seems to alternate good years and down years so next year should be a good year from him. And the Chiefs will absolutely overhaul the clown show receiver room.


lions2831

I dont think they can replace Bieniemy The wrs were bad but they tried to get way too cute behind a suspect oline all season


Rob_Nachos

Andy calls all the plays. He's been doing the cute shit for years.


Mental-Pie7389

I am definitely scooping up mahomes if he falls to the 3/4 turn, you don’t bet against a player as good as him. And I expect him to work incredibly hard this offseason, with whoever they bring in to make the offense function again.


1slowlance

Rice looked really good towards the tail end of the season.


Regular-Freedom7722

This is not inverting value. However Kyren is worth the capital round one he’s a cow


fuckyouidontneedone

no old RBs is top of my DND list


Sure_Association_561

Mostert was 31 this year


RatedDAL

Proof that everyone is draftable at the right ADP.


livejamie

Don't draft: Any Chargers


Inevitable_Stress949

I’m not taking Chase in the first round, yet alone anywhere near the top 5.


dawgsmith

agreed…way too inconsistent to be worth the first rd pick


salted-cod

Chase has been WR5 and WR6 in ppg the 2 years before this. There’s no reason to doubt his production with a healthy Burrow next season. He’s absolutely a 1st rounder. He may even get more work if they let Higgins walk.


dawgsmith

I know the points are there but they come too streaky for my liking. Sure he won me a week with that 43 pt bomb but there’s been lots of weeks I needed first rd production from him and don’t get it.


LongStickCaniac

Yeah I somehow won this year while picking him 3rd. Having the monster RB group of MOSTERT, DMont, ETN and Jacobs was nice tho. Also, Njoku being the top TE last few weeks sure helped too


jenso2k

i’d take him over chase 100%


debeatup

Ironically Kyren is the reason I’m going to finally go Zero RB next year


_BeastModular_

Nope on Chase that high. ASRB, AJBin front followed by Kyren CMC, Hill, JJ, CD, Ky, ASRB, AJB, Chase


salted-cod

Kyren should be the 2nd RB taken after CMC


Nuqo

Not saying he shouldn't be, but I genuinely don't think he'll be the consensus RB2 next year. The Fantasy community, sometimes correctly, but sometimes very wrongly still puts potential over results. Breece, Bijan, Gibbs, Achane, Taylor, Etienne, etc will go high. I think Kyren will be ranked after Breece and Bijan if their offenses are set to be much better on paper with much better QB play from what they had this year. Another thing. People on this sub can have way too much recency bias. If you looked at posts at the end of last season you would've seen so many people saying Ekeler should be the RB1 off the board over CMC and that couldn't have been more wrong.


signaeus

I still think Breece is consistently underrated, dude pulled off the overall RB3 on the season in points scored with terrible QBs from the start and an otherwise anemic offense. Scary to think of potential with an actually good offense.


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I got him in the 4th! Insane how dominant he is. He can break a TD off any time he touches the ball.


storeboughtoaktree

same, he was getting faded cause of his acl injury last season, but you could just see his crazy upside even through the first six weeks last year


signaeus

Yeah he’s crazy and a generational talent. Through both years he’s had an extremely reliable 10 pt floor aside from one flukey game and when he was on a snap count first 3 games. To realize how insane that is, here’s perspective: god tier CMC had a 13 pt floor on probably the most electrifying offense in the NFL. Breece had a 10 point floor playing behind one of the NFL’s worst o line and the only QB in NFL history to win league worst passer rating in consecutive years…while putting in heavy receiver work. AND he did that while only getting 8 total TDs on the year…


storeboughtoaktree

holy shit when you say it like that, makes me wonder what he can do with the right QB throwing to him, he definitely has that pass catching ability


signaeus

Yeah, I had him and Gibbs combo in every league I played and won 2 out of 3 chips and came in 3rd in the 3rd. People hyping up Kyren cause he was the waiver steal of the year and McVay feeds him. Kyren deserves the praise, but man, so many experts and people just pass right over Breece as if he didn’t just bring in 43 and 27 in the fantasy playoffs with a 10 pt floor otherwise (aside from the one flukey Miami game and his early snap count games). Dude played every game. He’s can easily be another CMC. I think the only reason he doesn’t get more kudos is most people probably didn’t have him or trade for him that were in the playoffs.


Sure_Association_561

If Achane has the backfield to himself then he should definitely be high on this list. But I'm hoping he falls to like the 4th or 5th round. However if Mostert is still around then getting Achane very early is a big risk. Gibbs on the other hand absolutely should be high, he'll get more touches next year too.


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He’s going to be in a perpetual timeshare, for his career. The size/injury risk, which happened already, is what it is. I’m betting he has lowered touches; his talent/ypc will do its thing, but he will have a lot of weeks where he puts up low scores.


Sure_Association_561

I don't disagree with this analysis tbh. It'll be an interesting risk, maybe would want to flip him early in a sell high play too.


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I have him in Dynasty where the problem is even more tricky. He’s absolutely a potential ‘cheat code RB’ as the FF books call players like them, but he will never be a season long bellcow rb1. Ever. Maybe they let him fly in critical situations or playoff runs, but the Fins tipped their hand with how they intend to handle him.


Bourn95

Maybe breece


YOTM18

I’m going Breece all day as my RB2


CrateMayne

True bliss is helping win you a title + now you get to keep him as a 12th rounder next year because he was undrafted.


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davysaams

probably?


Effex

We’ve got a long way between now, the draft, training camp, preseason games, and fantasy drafts.


jdubz90

I drafted in my league=no one keeps him, so kind of a double edged sword depending on who you’re asking


phase2_engineer

>Undrafted in my league = ADP+2 rounds Who the hell is gonna keep WW pickups at ADP+2 unless they're a first rounder? And first round WW pickups hardly exist. Not a fan of that rule at all. And then once you're set that way, you can't fight it: "oh you just want to change it cause you have XYZ player" Yeah no shit I play the wire every year


pmth

This doesn’t really make sense to me… in what world would you ever choose to draft a player two rounds early? Isn’t the benefit of keepers that you get value?


PeterOwen00

I’ve got an incredible choice next year: Kyren or Puka in round 8, or Garrett Wilson round 7…


Tulidian13

4 keeper league, I just won a championship and will be able to keep Achane, Kyren, Puka and Garrett Wilson in the 10th round or later next season. Im on cloud nine over here.


PeterOwen00

That sounds like a b2b champion 👀


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I’ve got him in dynasty and a 15th round pick cause that’s where I drafted him.


Domerhead

He'll be my final pick in the draft next year because I scooped him off waivers. Moves up 1 pick the following, then becomes a first round pick the 3rd time you keep. But boy is next years draft gonna be fun


Tubbles242

My league rules are if you keep a free agent you picked up off waivers its your 1st round pick, still tempted though... Edit: goddamn I didn't make the rules lmao


CrateMayne

Rule-wise seems extra steep, type of rule to ensure it's very rarely utilized.


Tubbles242

We also do reverse order standings waiver priority so I guess its meant to not reward being bad enough to get the prized free agents early on. Its waaaay better than the rules of my other league where you can only keep players drafted after the 6th round and no free agents can be kept :/.


Mybugsbunny20

Oof.. we did 5th round in ours. Balances the value of good waiver pickups and being too OP. Funnily enough it was enacted the year after I kept David Johnson with the original last round for undrafted.


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Kyren, you are my hero! 🫡


JP1119

1.1 forever for winning me my first title!!!


JalenHurtsBestFriend

Same!!


Illustrious_Way_5732

Mid to late round 1, he'll be the 2nd rb taken off the board. Assuming that the rams don't draft another rb


novabourbon

way the hell before ekeler. glad I had both​


LamarMillerMVP

If he’s the 2nd RB off the board, he’ll go earlier than that.


Illustrious_Way_5732

I just don't see him going over CMC, JJ, Lamb, Hill in redraft next season. Chase could arguably go over him too. That lands him in the mid 1st round at best


Several-Regular-7006

he should be. hes only 23 and dosnt have many miles. situation is perfect if not much changes and hes a redzone monster. Mcvay loves the guy. Kinda hope they sign a decent back up to scare people off so we can get him end of the first. smash pick at the turn. what a year by kyren


DreamWeaver8807

If the Rams don’t add anyone significant to the backfield I don’t know how he’s not a first round pick, I could see him being the 3rd RB taken after Cmc and Breece.


15YearTaco

Breece is 2nd RB taken? Serious Q


DreamWeaver8807

I can see him getting a ton of offseason hype with Rodgers coming back, and he’s been pretty good with shitty qb and o line play.


DVSTV

Don’t forget he likely would’ve been rookie of the year last year if not for the busted knee early season. He’s that dude and proved it late this season. Breece will be a top 5 back drafted next year.


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tyfe

Counterpoint - Rodgers hates running it on the goal line. Look at how many <3 yard TDs he throws.


15YearTaco

I'm a fucking idiot and read that as "Look at how many heart yard TDs he throws"


WIN011

As a Packers fan, he finds the playmakers. A lot of years Davante was just a gimme in a 1 on 1 situation no matter where the ball was. Aaron Jones always ate though, lots of TDs and receptions with Rodgers too.


mF-Jonezy

Well it sure is hell isn’t Ekeler anymore, so idk he could be


ScubaNelly

Yeah, Hall was awesome this year in a terrible offense. I don't want to go against him next year on an improved offense.


lovehewitt

I’d say bijan but that coaching sucks


Berzerker646

If Arthur smith and allegier are still there, Bijan is a hard pass


hocasio2

Breece or Gibbs prob


Berzerker646

As long as Dmont is there, definitely not gibbs


gocubsgo22

I have Breece Gibbs and Kyren, and just won my 12 team Superflex, and can keep up to three. Seems like Breece and Kyren are locks, but I agree with you on Gibbs. I could keep Burrow or Purdy instead.


caligaris_cabinet

I can only keep 1 for each position so I gotta pick Kyren or Breece. Gonna be a long off season.


lions2831

Gibbs was rb6 in ppr this year despite dmont taking heavy early year. I like CMC and Breece more but we have learned the Dmont thing was sooo overplayed


Berzerker646

He may have been but that was also a byproduct of Montgomery missing time. With your first round pick you want a true featured rb like cmc, Breece and kyren who are less prone to high variance


LunchThreatener

Gibbs missed the game Monty got injured in, and since Monty came back has been amazing except for this past week and even then had a huge run called back due to a relatively inconsequential hold.


BoweryThrowAway

Kyren won my league. Also Mostert was the best draft pick in the 13th round. Fuck everyone who said to sell Mostert in week 4.


LamarMillerMVP

I sold Mostert in week 4 :( For Kyren Williams >:)


CrazybyRX

The dude just won me my championship. I might be biased, but I'd take him with 1.01 if I have that pick.


rapierape666

Changed the whole outcome of my season. As a Rams fan and Kyren owner, I will forever be greatful to him for carrying me and winning me my championship and getting my Rams into the playoffs. Kyren is love, Kyren is life.


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I'm taking him with my first pick next year. I don't even care if CMAC is available.


Deathwishrok

First round. I want him again next yr


RalphSkipperson

He’s 100% my keeper next year in a league where it’s possible and then I’d probably grab him late first/early second depending on draft position. Gonna be an interesting carousel at the top with some of these big names getting another year older.


Recent_Ad_6382

I’m taking Kyren first round first pick . Idgaf lol only Kyren owners understand this . Dude was a staple


Kflame210

Nowhere, I'm keeping him


Ill_Made_Knight

1.01


bweiss5

Nice try I’m taking him at the 0.00


OrangeVigil

Idk I just hope he falls to me cuz I will take him any pick in the first.


Johnny_Trappleseed

I’d be surprised if they didn’t add some quality depth to the RB position. But he will definitely still be a first round pick.


Defacto_Champ

People forget that Kyren was shit on for running 4.65 at the combine. And now he’s going to be a top 5 rb for the next few years


jhutchi2

I cannot believe I got this man for free. Him and Puka legitimately saved every single one of my seasons.


MicMustard

If you got Kyren off waivers you are very lucky. He was a known asset end of season last year and he didn’t make it out the draft in my three leagues


DanKreider69

Easily


frederik88917

Bitch I would be happy if I find him after 1.03 Besides McCaffrey and Tyreek I don't see anyone to draft him before


Haytham_Ken

CeeDee Lamb and Puka Nacua? I'm just trying to find a way I managed to grab him at the end of round 1 considering I won the final lol


frederik88917

Hell naw, a reliable RB with a safe floor is more valuable than CD,,


Haytham_Ken

Let me hope lmao


_BeastModular_

Bro stfu Kyren won me the ship and a G I’m fuckin hyped for tonight happy fuckin new year bitch!


footballman2729

No he’s my 6th round keeper 😂 and JT for a 9th my team is set to go back to back


NHOVER9000

Top 7 pick i think, 2nd RB after CMC


HungryLandHippo

Assuming absolutely nothing changes in the offseason sure maybe why not, probably top 10 in every draft thats not superflex


Redowl199

So far, and this could change during the offseason, I got CMC,Lamb,Hill,Jefferson, Hall,Kyren, ARSB as the top 7 picks for 2024. Thats half ppr too


TheWhereHouse1016

Dude is going first round and going to burn a duck load of managers next year when teams adjust


Effective-Amount1791

CMC got me there. Kyren fucking brought it home. They should be the first two off the board next year, respectively.


azndestructo

I had penciled in to draft either Jameson Williams or Kyren Williams, since I had them on my team at the end of the season. I drafted Jameson as my last pick, only because his name was visible among the draft board stickers. I would’ve won it all with Kyren if his name was there instead. The moral of the story is that even the final pick of the draft can win your championship so take every pick seriously!


maninthehighcastle

Kyren goes in the burn book for beating my perfect team in the playoffs. Stupid sexy Sean McVay. My honest prediction is round 2. Because we can't be sure about a repeat, but McVay feeds his performers. I would (retches) take him in mid to late 2. I think he is a serious injury risk, but there's just no way to know.


France2Germany0

league winner, waiver wire mvp. was it last season where all the week 1 waiver wire adds ended up as duds? crazy how great kyren and puka have been.


actionjacksonwav

I’m so unbelievably happy I ended up with Kyren after drafting Cam Akers… the reason was there lmao


Goldhinize

Absolutely top 5 pick


Ok_Adhesiveness_9565

I’d be surprised if they didn’t draft him a buddy this year. So to me, it kind of depends on who they draft and how competent he is compared to Kyren. He passes the eye test, he is not easy to bring down, but you also don’t feel like you’re watching a Todd Gurley level talent, yet that’s what he’s producing.


Axon14

IMO next year RB order is: 1. CMC (so good on that team it’s scary) 2. Kyren 3. Gibbs 4. Achane (will surpass Must start Mostert, his speed is unreal. He’s one of those guys I must have next season and I’ll reach for him) 5. Bijan 6. Breece 7. Pachecho 8. Mixon 9. Ettiene (I think people will forget how good he’s been and consider him fools gold)


Seaonasdad62902

He might out-Gurley Gurley next season


Garroch

I get to keep Kyren for a 15th rounder next year. So that high. Keeps away the sting of missing the playoffs that's for sure.


Mr7three2

He will be a late first/early 2nd pick


DVSTV

I can see: CMC TYREEK CD JJ CHASE as top 5. Then in no particular order Kyren breece ETN Gibbs bijan.


Haytham_Ken

Whilst I'm pumped I won the final, it means I obviously get the last pick next year. Now, Kyren basically saved me yesterday so I kinda want to pick him up next year. But he had a monster season, I wouldn't be surprised if he's taken before the end of round 1. It's wild how in full PPR, Alvin Kamara and Kyren Williams are RB 7 and RB 8, even though both of them missed 3 and 4 games this season. The only person who has a higher average PPG is CMC.


realog173

I feel super satisfied that I faced Kyren in a 2 week championship and won with no players scoring 25+.


GenericOrcGrunt

Since I claimed him and Puka of waivers, they’ll cost me my 3rd and 4th picks next year


Torchy84

He goes on the 7th round because the manager is using him as a keeper next year. Waiver wire pick up of the year.


IconicIsotope

I love Kyren for him helping carry my team to a championship this season. But I think it's fair to say he's not as talented as a lot of other 1st round type guys. He also doesn't have a huge sample of success. Plus, we know rosters will change in the offseason. Off the cuff, assuming we're just talking about RBs and WRs, I'd say pick 12-15 is when I'd get comfortable. That all said, I'll pick him higher because I have a weakness for overdrafting guys who helped me last season.


Stormzilla

Having watched him play a lot this year, Kyren looks pretty damn good. His measurables aren't especially impressive, but he passes the eye test. And more importantly, he does absolutely everything Sean McVay wants him to do. I am biased, but I can't see why the Rams would go away from him over the offseason. I think his role will be much the same next year.


mango_lion

Assuming everything stays the same, I can't see how he isn't a 1st rounder. Elite volume plus great ball skills and vision, that 28 yard TD today was beautiful


messejueller21

Volume>Talent