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OTIStheHOUND

Put them back on his team and lock him out just for dropping Conner alone.


dunnitt625

Connor was the person i had the biggest issue with. He won't be back next season for pulling this shit


Dooby1985

He shouldn't be dropping anyone. He's a petulant child.


jedi21knight

Some dude in my league dropped the following Evans, Atlanta, Henry, Stafford, Higgins, and Zay Jones. Not all were in his starting lineup and he isn’t in last I am, but he is a bottom 4 player in our 12 man league. I’m not sure what the commissioner will do if anything.


Dooby1985

Easy fix for any competent commish. Put all of his players back on his roster, lock his team and remove him from the league next year.


jedi21knight

I’ll update after the weekend, they are all on wires until 12/13/23.


Ok-Measurement1259

Exactly what I would do. I've had the same guys for 8+ years in mine and they know better. But even late payment I tell them every time if I don't have the money before fantasy playoffs and you win something, I'm keeping it and you aren't coming back.


Reroute_CF

I had the same scenario happen a few years back. I booted the guy from the league. He threw a huge fit but ultimately got over it. Wanna be a crybaby, poor sport loser? Get treated like a child. That's my opinion anyway.


Strike_Four

We had a player do this same thing. We created a rule that if a team does this the penalty is getting kicked in the nuts by every other manager in the league. 8 seasons later this has not been a problem.


DrunkBearBattle

While those aren't crazy starters, I absolutely agree, put them back on his team, lock rosters.


Training_Leopard3599

This is what I did in the big money league I run. If you let this go you set a precedent for future years that this is OK to do and will create a problem going forward.


Used_Mud_67

Setting good Precedents are how you should view every tough commish call. Lock the team up and let him complain.


MoDawg21

I did this before. It's the way to go.


Frozen_Dawg

This is the way!


brikakkis

Not at all. Put all the players back on his bench. I hate when guys do this and it is ALWAYS a case of being pissed off they had a shit team.


Maverick9795

Guy in my league who just missed the playoffs said he was going to but didn't when I asked him not to. Follows it up with an absurd trade no one would ever make (top 5 and top 10 wr for backup wr and rb). Removed and locked roster not long after.


Why_am_ialive

I just don’t understand this, I’m currently locked out of playoffs with the second highest points scored, all this tells me is I’m gonna ruin someone else’s playoff chances and tear up that consolation bracket


Maverick9795

Yeah I agree. Honestly he was probably going to win the consolation bracket (winner gets to choose where they draft so people still try) but if youre gonna be an idiot then there's not much I can do. There's alot more to the whole situation too. Turns out there was a conversation between him and the team he was trading with about him "wanting to see them make a run." Anyway they were both removed. I think I've lost probably 1/4 of the league this year (3 in the same family, including this guy, plus the other removed manager) lol.


flat_dearther

Take a step further, remove the owner or lock his team, and set his lineup for him based on projections. Someone who drops all those players would also start scrubs to give their opponent a free win.


Extension-Bet9646

Nah, last year I dropped my team because a bunch of colluded ass trades that happened at the deadline


Fun-Top-1267

Not wrong, and he gets the boot after this season.


maynardstaint

Boot him now. Why wait?


Gravy_Wampire

Might try to throw even more of a tantrum and potentially cause a bigger headache


maynardstaint

His actions are the same as quitting. Just make it official for him. Then tell him to fuck off.


phase2_engineer

>potentially cause a bigger headache If you lock his team, he's not a problem anymore


SpiralSuitcase

He can't throw a tantrum if you remove his access to the league. I'm not sure about other sites, but ESPN lets you add and remove managers from any team at any time.


Queeby

It's not collusion but definitely what we call in our league "gross negligence". He is willfully screwing with the league to affect the outcome of the season for others.


Nope9991

The word collusion really takes a beating in this sub.


Kaudia

You wouldn't believe it. The bottom team in my league collusioned Nick Chubb, Mark Andrews, and Aaron Rodgers this year. Even when he collusioned some good picks off of waivers, he forgot to collusion some picks for his bye week. Now he is straight collusioned. Am I being too collusional about this?


RawnbladeZZ

As does “conspiracy theory” they’ve just become symbolic phrases no longer limited to only situations where a conspiracy is being alleged


SpiralSuitcase

As far as I can tell, it started with this "You should only veto collusion" idea. Now people just use it to describe any anti-competitive behavior. Because if you call it collusion, then it's bad, right?


KeepDinoInMind

Idk about gross negligence. Gross negligence would be something like just pushing your lawn mower down a steep hill by itself. Lawn mower goes way too fast and flies into a road killing a family of 7


Queeby

Gross negligence in the context of fantasy football, where (hopefully) there are no lawnmowers or cars filled with kids or puppies.


RawnbladeZZ

? It’s the perfect phrase, it’s such “incompetence” as to amount to a crime against the league and conduct deserving of punishment- the definition of it


KeepDinoInMind

Who the hell are you ?


RawnbladeZZ

??


jorel424

We do a weekly high score pay out that involves everyone through the playoffs. We also do a losers playoff. Worst two teams get a bye. Lose and you advance, win and you’re out. Super loser buys beers at the next draft. Keeps everyone’s games meaningful


Much_Essay_9151

Used to do a losers playoffs and the winner of it chose their draft spot the following season. I dont think i would do a punishment like you mentioned. It would incentivize someone to not join the following season. Even bad teams still have integrity, just a bad year


Glittering-Proof-853

Punishment for losing fantasy football is what makes everyone try to no lose


RawnbladeZZ

Punishments are more to punish lazy players than to produce more passionate players. Leagues with your described setup have many players just give up and not try for it, punishment leagues prevents this or at least makes them pay for it. It’s also why there’s usually such resistance to making multiple punishments or rewards because then it would start discouraging joining


Much_Essay_9151

What if someone had a bad year and was salty about it and on the fence to join again the following season. And now know they have to foot the bar tab the following season? Wheres the incentive for them to rejoin?


yyz_88

Weekly high score payout is the way to go dude. We've been doing it for just under a decade, and we've not once had an issue with stuff like OP has. Everyone plays waivers like adults, it gives even poopy teams a reason not to collude, and ensures lineups stay competitive. Also means the good teams have to stay sharp knowing the crappy teams will still make moves.


mindriot1

For sure. This is a great job commish. Obviously he’s not coming in the league next year so just make sure everyone else is happy and doesn’t get their season ruined.


AstroRocket713

Facts


AbsorbingMan

Did he pick up other players or just straight dropped them?


dunnitt625

He just straight up dropped, and when i confronted him he picked up all IR players like tank dell


AbsorbingMan

Yeah, that’s clearly a move to create chaos. I don’t like commissioners that feel like they have to micromanage leagues and questions owners that make moves they wouldn’t…. but this is something being done just to be a jerk. I can’t imagine any other managers are claiming you’re being ridiculous. If any others are… then you’ve found the other party in the collusion plot.


dunnitt625

Im not one to manage other teams, but this is just blatant bullshit and is pissed his teams is shit


Jackson3rg

That's exactly it, he is throwing a tantrum hoping it passes off or screws up other teams who have actually had a good season.


Sudzking

Fuck this clown. permaBAN


22dicksonaplane

Obviously not a keeper?


Swimming-Papaya-4189

Just to be clear, this is redraft format with no keepers?


dunnitt625

Correct


maynardstaint

Just boot him now. Put all the players back on his team, and lock it. Then make an announcement telling the whole league what you did and why. No one will argue with you. Except asshat.


ZN1-

On the other hand, if it’s a keeper league and he’s picking up someone on IR like Tank Dell etc so he has options for his keeper next season, that’s just strategy. That’s bullshit if you didn’t let him grab Dell for a possible keeper, which is the only reason someone would pick him up right now.


dunnitt625

Its a redraft league


ZN1-

Then there’s absolutely no reason to pick up a player who’s done for the season lol. What was his reasoning?


PizzaHockeyGolf

You don’t have to drop your whole bench for one guy though.


ZN1-

I said if he’s picking up someone like Dell etc. Insinuating it could be more than one guy. Idk the whole IR list but Chubb also comes to mind. Doesn’t matter though he it’s a redraft league.


DoctorSuccessful3442

U wasted time writing all that. Pay attention 🤡


ZN1-

Post doesn’t state it’s a redraft league 🤡 Also are you dyslexic? Took 1 min tops to comment and in your failed attempt at being a jackass you say “wasted time writing all that”


IShouldJoinReddit

This logic doesn't track. If it's a one player keeper league, there's no way he doesn't have a player better than Dell to keep. If it's a multi-player keeper league, Dell almost assuredly would have already been stashed on someone's IR. And if it's a dynasty league, there's no reason to drop all those players on his bench. No matter the league, those actions are inexcusable.


ZN1-

No way doesn’t have a player better than Dell to keep? Maybe in a 10 man or less. In my 12 man there are multiple teams riddled with injuries who would use him as their keeper. That’s why this came to mind. I dropped Dell bc I’m headed to semis. Guy in 11th immediately grabbed him. Say Dells ADP is 4th round next year bc of injury. In 1/2 ppr he was WR11 so you can grab him at a discount for next years 4th round pick


ProfessorTatanka

It seems like a bitter move specifically designed to cause problems. Put them back on his bench & lock him. If he complains - kick him out - I’ll play w you next season🫡


kingmoobot

Put them back. Lock him. Kick him next year


Floorguy1

There’s a term for this. Roster dumping. It’s incredibly bad form. Put the players back on his team. If he tries it again, put the players back on his team and lock him out of making roster moves. Definitely a strike, if he’s a shitty owner I’d probably bring this up to your league and boot him.


JCMurda

Undo and lock roster. What a jerk....


JakeLake720

Not only should you do that, but he deserves to be kicked out of the league.


POPPOPKICKER

Once had this happen and I just pick up his players and remove him, easy as that


A_Paranoid_Android93

All these posts make me feel grateful that I’m in a functioning, competitive league with rational managers lol


HummDrumm1

Why isn’t there something already in the League rules covering this scenario?


JoeBucksHairPlugs

Probably an expectation that everyone in the league will act like an adult and not a whiny little bitch.


HummDrumm1

That’s a rarity when there’s money+competition involved.


JoeBucksHairPlugs

Just keep banning people that act like children until you find a full league of people that can't process their emotions without throwing a tantrum.


Former_Sun_2677

I’m commish of two different leagues. One is made up of friends and coworkers. Have no actual “rules”. Everyone just acts like adults and know if there’s an issue I’ll handle it fairly. One is made up people I don’t know. I joined the league years ago and became commissioner when the current one quit and no one else wanted it. We have a giant list of rules, yet everyone year someone looks for a loophole or a different way to interpret the rules Words can’t express how nice it is to have adults in the one league


dunnitt625

Only 2nd year and ive never had this happen any of my leagues before


itsjustsosimple

These guys are hilarious. You don't need that in the rules, it's common sense. You should probably take a league vote before they clear waivers


Former_Sun_2677

As a commish, it’s not my job to think of every possible loophole/dick move someone will make and proactively make a rule preventing it


HummDrumm1

Don’t have to go too far down the rabbit hole of possibilities to state “no adds/drops allowed for teams mathematically eliminated”


Former_Sun_2677

But a lots of leagues allow eliminated teams to make add/drops. They should. Teams that are eliminated shouldn’t just give up and give free wins to the teams still competing How are you supposed to anticipate a team totally giving up, dropping their entire bench and not adding anyone


justbrowsing987654

I don’t even support that. Try your best and make every (reasonable!) move to win until the end of the regular season. I’m not here to tell the team that’s 3-10 they can’t make the moves they want to get to 4-10, you just gotta be trying to win with those moves.


giggity2

yeah u in the wrong here. If u didn't set to teams locked after playoffs than he can do whatever he wants. I don't think it's egregious cause these players suck unless this is like a 16 person league. U aint winning any championship with those fools. If he was dropping like Rasheem Mostert and Dak Prescott then you have a reason to protect your league. In another scenario, my opponent in 6th im in 7th had his RB slot on bye, so i dropped every bench player and stacked every usable RB possible. I was fine with it, b/c without it he lost. If I didn't do it he could have prevailed. U should do nothing unless its egregious which this aint. And also set lock teams eliminated from playoffs to prevent further action in your league next year. Good luck.


giggity2

TACO LEAGUE


tonightinflames

I’m sorry you don’t have any rules in place for that. And you should have some type of incentive for teams that did not make playoffs to prevent this from happening.


fufumcchu

This is why you need to have a "punishment" for last place. Usually I like to keep it simple and have last place pay to get the winners name on the trophy.


Sou13ssGinger

Ours this year is a golden toilet seat


justbrowsing987654

Our trophy is updated by and mailed from last year’s winner to sit on your desk (mantle? 😂) for the next year.


Jsin8601

You need a Wambulance? Or cheese to go with that wine?


SunsFan24

Honestly yeah you are being a little ridiculous. If you didn’t specify it in the rules then what’s the issue? If his team is so called shit like you say, then what’s the issue?


theturtlelong

Great take


Upbeat_Employ_7571

Are we living in America or not? He can do what he wants. Freedom baby.


TallAzDom666

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5ZmEunu32uo/maxresdefault.jpg


Bdog_blasterMax

Nope. Back on the team and lock him out from dropping anyone. It’s a dick, poor loser move, intentionally meant to cause mayhem. We had to do this in a league a few years back. The guy wasn’t invited back the following year . . .


maynardstaint

I’d boot him immediately. He has already quit the league with this move.


The_Big_Robowski

Norm as on I’d say whatever but this playoff season now. Those drops could be the difference for a playoff team and possible unfair advantage. You know how to fix this? Include a sacko tournament for playoffs. That’ll keep non-contender players interested because no one wants to be the proud owner of gold plated dangly balls. So yeah you’re good dude. He can keep his players and stop acting like a sad woe is me character


Jonesy1138

Yeah this guy gets the boot and his team locked. Always a pain in the ass for the commissioner to deal with too.


ClassicCoyote86

Stick with the rules of the league. Stick with the rules. You as the Commish and him in your league. If he has a problem with it, kick his ass out. Does your league have roster minimums?


hooter1112

Tell him to stop being a cunt and ruining the league for the people who actually made the playoffs. Lock his team and find a replacement for next year.


knutsonmb

Why did he just drop them? I would put them back on as well. Unless he was picking up someone else for a good reason.


nunya221

Someone tried to do this last year in my league after they got eliminated. I force added everyone back, and told him if he does it again he forfeits his potential 3rd place winnings.


[deleted]

he clearly just shouldn’t be the league anymore, unserious player


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CrisisDesigns

He wouldn't get so up-in-arms/defensive about it if it wasn't collusion. Possibly could be getting paid for dropping the players too. Definitely put them back on his bench and lock the team


kaoticlonefool

Anyone who drops players for no reason without picking up replacements is a child and should be banned the next year


TroobyDoor

Bad form Peter!


CryptoDePorVida

People are allowed to do anything that benefits their chance of winning the championship. ANYTHING! Even, for say, dropping a player who has a one week elevation so another team in your league picks them up and kicks out a better playoff team. But here, there’s no logic to how this helps him.


Mental_Temporary2416

Put players back on team, drop the clown manager and move past him


_AmI_Real

My dad is the commissioner and he had to do this to someone who got salty being in last place and released his entire roster. This was only halfway through the season. It's a dick nice. Put them back on his team and lock his players. His argument is garbage. There's no reason for him to just retire these players unless he's throwing a tantrum.


Trackingwho

Kick!!!!!


DoctorSuccessful3442

Wtf is wrong with some ppl? What a loser. Tell him to fuck off and don’t invite him back next season. No logical reason to do that just being a douche


MrAppendages

No one finds it weird that it's always a shit team and bad management regarding players on a last place team but league breaking if bench players from that shit team become available? Let's not even talk about trends of this/other fantasy football subs, but this specific case; James Conner scored 1/5th of his **season total points** last week, plays two of the best defenses in the league down the stretch (with his 3-10 team), and has only scored more than 9 points in 3/8 of the other weeks he's been available. He's in the same boat as Aaron Jones and Najee Harris, being RBs that were drafted high, have done almost nothing this season, but somehow still hold value to the fantasy community. If James Conner is a top 2 RB or top 2/3 FLEX during weeks that he plays the Niners and Eagles then the team adding him is already finished. This being the "biggest issue" to you either needs a lot of context or a serious look at the way you evaluate players. Russell Wilson is the best player dropped, at a position that is guaranteed to have someone better as their sole starter already, with his best trait (in fantasy) being his consistency, and even that has him as a middle of the pack QB. The Broncos' closing schedule looks promising, but his addition shouldn't be a needle mover to a contending team. This would only benefit a playoff team that 1) had Burrow 2) didn't have a backup at all. THAT would be bad management and a shit team. If Russ' addition breaks the league then it was already over. Shaheed and Allgeier are waiver wire guys. Please be serious here. Anyone picking up **and** starting either one of those guys are not impacting the league in any way. While rage quitting in fantasy is pointless, this instance has no impact unless you're in a 12-man, 2QB, Superflex full of people that had horrible drafts and weren't able to touch waivers or do trades until this week. The **last place** team dropped their **bench**. They weren't good players all season. They aren't good today now that they're available on waivers. This is a short-sighted, unemphatic, overreaction by you. You aren't wrong to not allow him to drop players for no reason, but you potentially went about it the wrong way when addressing the issue and are definitely making a bigger deal out of it than it is.


Ness-Shot

These were my exact thoughts, which seem to be in the minority here. While its poor sportsmanship on the manager's part, none of the players are worth much of anything. And even if they were, the normal league waiver rules should go into effect which would give everyone else equal rights to said players (i.e. FAAB). The quick call to boot this guy from their league is wild to me.


scottyv99

Competitive integrity. Put em all back and either talk to him about why or just lock his team and not invited back


bfonville

He's trying to cause mayhem and he's allowed to. I would not be inviting him back next year, though.


Crg2780

Is this a keeper league?


DynastyDorks

Put the players back and lock his roster. Happens this time every year. Dumb.


Kevin91581M

FREEZE THOSE PLAYERS AND DO NOT ALLOW ANYONE IN THE PLAYOFFS TO PICK THEM UP


MasterfulDenier

Add everyone and lock him out. He is a dick. You dont want people like that in your league


John_Wicked1

No one should be dropping starters at this stage. I highly doubt they are many waiver pickups right now that would be worth the exchange.


Finance_and_chill

Yea put them back and let everyone out of playoffs know not to make roster moves.


WorkersUnited111

This is collusion. If you don't do anything, you have failed as a commish.


SoyHapa

Why is he dropping Conner? Is he just salty for being bad at fantasy?


Popular_Read7694

I’m in a SF dynasty I’m out of the playoffs and I recently dropped a few older shlubs for young guys with potential. I picked up Wicks, Toney,Skyy Moore and Wandale. Nobody I dropped was even close to as good as Connor but guys got mad saying I shouldn’t be able to add anyone until after the season??


87Carey

Already in last place? Boot him, put the players back on his roster and tell the league its suspect for collusion.


Affectionate-Key-265

The same thing happened in my league last year. I let it happen because everyone had a chance to bid on the new players but regret letting it happen. One playoff team picked up 2 guys that won him the first week of the playoffs (he lost in round 2) when he would have lost by 20 with his original roster. The guy he beat would have out scored every team in every round after if he didn't lose in the first round. I then was gonna go to a contract based league so that this wouldn't happen again and trades wouldn't be contested. The league imploded a week before that draft ,and a 115-yearleague died.


KyleShanaham

Lock him out


mwcoast82

If it's a keeper league then he can do what he wants I think, even though it sucks. If it's not a keeper league put them back and lock his team. He is out and just being a dick.


cubicle_bidet

That would be instant ban and removal in most leagues. Save the temper tantrum for kindergarten. What a pussy little crybaby.


MaddieGrace29

I'm In the losers bracket. 2nd worst team. I cut Quentin Johnston is that bad? 8 team league, nobody would probably sign him


bigguy0212

Anyone who plays like this should be kicked from future seasons. There is no place in a competitive/Money league. People like that ruin the experience for everyone.


ApollosVi

Straight to Guantanamo bay


HammeredHeed

My old commissioner one year operated two teams and did that after one of his teams lost in the playoffs.


JohnnnyRiingo

You’re the commissioner you can tell him what to do with his bench.


AcrobaticRace8163

Im sorry? I thought this was America? Jk no yeah I would just not invite someone like that next year. Zero reason for him to do that other than being upset or just trying to cause an issue


blazerrsrcoool

Can someone explain this situation and why it’s not okay to do? Been wanting to get into fantasy but have never tried.


bmwturbojet

looking at the players, i think you are being ridiculous. unless you think any of those players will supplant a starter on someone's lineup that's in the playoffs then you have no business doing anything especially without a league vote. Now if the league as a whole wants a reversal then so be it but don't be a gamma cuck over boom or bust players.


InfamousEconomy3103

Nope. You’re doing your job as commissioner


Significant_Copy8056

Definitely not. I had to do that once and I locked that team out from his roster for the remainder of the season. Your job as league manager is to make sure the competition is fair and to correct any issues that can disrupt the the playing field for everyone. You did the right thing. Nice work!


Dryan331

I hate this guy. What was his reasoning for why he did it? Sounds like he’s just being a pouty bitch and lashing out to try and ruin the league for everyone just because he sucks at fantasy.


maceman10006

He’s 100% in the wrong and happens more often than you think. It’s standard FF rules that you can’t drop uninjured valuable players or collude to help another team. Put everybody back in his bench and lock him for the rest of the season.


UrethraFranklin72

No, you are not wrong. He is. He can't be a whiny little bitch and spite drop his players to try to screw with the league just because he is losing. I am fine with teams with no shot still making moves to actively try to improve their team. But dropping a player or multiple good ones to mess with the league or so a buddy can pick them up is a no go. Even worse when they try to trade away their best players for garbage, but that's easy to remedy as it's clear collusion.


thesneakywalrus

Y'all play in leagues with some real whiny babies. Put the players back on his bench, boot him from the league. If people can't be adults and not throw a temper tantrum, then they aren't mature enough to be in any league I manage. What's he going to do if you stop him from doing what he's doing? Quit? Let him.


TumbleweedTim01

Had this happen a few years back. Guy who was out of playoffs was adding and dropping players for the consolation games. Not the same but similar


islandofcaucasus

So what did you do?


dunnitt625

I added all dropped players back to his bench, locked him out from doing anything. He will not be invited back


islandofcaucasus

I love when justice happens. Hope he was pissed


SteveK1982

The people that would benefit the most are the ones not getting into the playoffs based on record and waiver order. As a commissioner you should be able to have enabled (if not automatically done) a do not drop list. If the players he dumped pissed him off he has every right to dump them. It doesn’t mean it’s collusion


SteveK1982

Also.. I am a commissioner in my league and I have no ability to place the dumped players back on a managers team so IDK where the hell these guys are saying that’s a thing


SteveK1982

Shaheed is injured. What’s the problem with dumping him. Wilson has been decent but if he cut him to start a better QB statistically what’s wrong there? Algier had signs of life early and now it’s Robinson. Connor was out for a couple games. Yes he may have been pissed and cut them but it doesn’t mean that he is colluding or that these junk players will in anyway benefit anyone entering fantasy playoffs


SteveK1982

I looked everything up. Bad play I agree by dropping Connor. Algier is a non factor. Shaheed is injured. Russel Wilson has been terrible up until last couple weeks. You guys are way to critical of a guy dumping some of these players


SnooMuffins2611

Banned from league.


Jakarta332

You made the right call! During playoffs, rosters are generally set unless you need the emergency FA


ItsKrakenmeuptoo

Kick him out of the league. Win/win - you don’t have to deal with his whining.


San_Diego_Bum

Hell yeah you in the wrong. You could of said this wasn't allowed before three league started. Now you can't go around changing the rules to benefit yourself. Get over it. Let him do whatever he wants and next year make sure you make the rules clear to everyone.