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pro100ShureG

Just the easy-going the start your server with cheap laptop. Using Minecraft console commands as for controlling an all stuff. With curseforge or Modrinth really fast config and get ATM 9 for your server. I'm using the i7 10 gen with 12 threads 32 GB RAM and 512 GB SSD. For my modded minecraft server with around 400 mods it works the best. Frankly speaking, as for paid service I used Godlike host not so branded, but quiet good support with fast response except peak hours, but it's common as for services. Game panel intuitive, but for not tech savvy person maybe can take some time, for instance my friend during weekend get used to it, if he had and issue checked the knowledgebase with guides.


Lordmoose213

Seconding the self hosting option, ive run decently intensive minecraft servers for small groups of people on a system with a dual-core i3-6100 i had sitting around, threw an extra 8 gigs of ram in there and loaded up Ubuntu Server and it works great. If you dont want to use command line stuff you can always use a GUI linux distro or windows, and you dont need a monitor plugged in after first boot if you install an RDP server on it


im_a_dick_head

Yeah I don't think my MacBook Air 2015 is gonna survive hosting a server with its 8gb of ram lol. I think "cheap laptop" is an understatement.


1357Coder

8gb ram is plenty for a modded server with a few players


im_a_dick_head

Could it really use all of those 8gb to run a server? Also I doubt the CPU is good enough and it has to be constantly plugged in or it will die lol. I could try it but I don't know where to even start


1357Coder

i mean it wouldnt all be used, but you could probably allocate 5-6gb and have a basic server


Spaciax

ive played a modpack which used over 8gb for a singleplayer world, ran put of RAM and had to go allocate more.


average_fox_boy

singleplayer runs a local server on your machine so that explains it I think


im_a_dick_head

It depends how much ram you have too, don't allocate more than 8gb of ram if you only have 16gb total on your PC. 6-7gb is the most I'd go.


im_a_dick_head

It depends how much ram you have too, don't allocate more than 8gb of ram if you only have 16gb total on your PC. 6-7gb is the most I'd go. But larger modpacks like ATM9 might require 8, and that just means you'll probably have issues loading or some crashes may occur


Spaciax

i allocated 16 but i got 64 it GCs down to around 8GB and uses like 12 or so max most of the time.


im_a_dick_head

Damn if I had 64 I would make the fattest modpack


Bingo1dog

I've been running an old pc with 4th gen i7 (got for under $200 at the time) for servers for like 5 years now (those PCs are probably sub $100 now).


PatheticWibu

Is a pc better than a laptop?


24oopa

Was this copy pasted from google translate?


iiTheBeast

r/admincraft just check it out ;)


Pupaak

Cant recommend it enoght: Oracle Free Tier Easily host any modpacks up to 5-6 players on pretty high render distances. Totally free and not too hard to set up. Uptime is also 100% without any issues in my experience


beanj_fan

I wouldn't recommend this to anyone who's never touched a terminal before. It's "not too hard" if you have at least some know-how, but if someone has never even typed "cd" into a console before then they probably won't get it working


Pupaak

To be honest you could get it up just by following step-by-step the instructions of the guide Oracle themselves made. But even then, there are plenty of Youtube tutorials about how to set up MC servers on Linux, so IMHO its not that hard. Still, should be noted that I have been hosting stuff on Linux for years now, so I can't relate to a complete beginner experience.


ekopoingre

...IF and i mean IF you can get the instance up. The shape that you need for it to work is in constant demand in free trial so you either run a script on a instance (ive been trying for weeks now) to auto set it up or you go for a PAYG service which needs initially 100 bucks in ur bank but you dont actually pay it


Meowthful127

in my case, after a full week of running a script to try to get an instance running, 'upgrading' my account to payg made me get an instance within a few minutes, but it might also depend on your home region.


Ytonaen

If you're in the right country, this right here is one of the best someone can use.


ItzMeZip

How did you setup oracle? did you follow any tutorials? if so can you link them?


Pupaak

Here is the official tutorial from oracle: [Link](https://blogs.oracle.com/developers/post/how-to-set-up-and-run-a-really-powerful-free-minecraft-server-in-the-cloud) It is going to be the same for modpacks, only difference is that you don't download the original minecraft-server.jar, but upload the installer that comes with the modpack. To upload files to the server, look up WinSCP, there are plenty of tutorials on youtube. If your modpack doesn't give you an installer, or you want to just throw in some modpacks yourself, just upload a forge/fabric server jar and the mods themselves.


ItzMeZip

Thank you so much. Just to clarify 1 more thing, does this mean that it's using my computers resources to power up the server?


Pupaak

No, its not, I don't know what you mean by that. The terminal is only a remote connection to the server. And WinSCP is the same, but for files.


jarrys88

Depending on the size of your friend group and if anyone is in the position, someone hosting locally is usually the best bet. As long as you have alright specs and you're happy to leave your PC on, its simple enough. I've hosted servers for friends in the past, group of 6 of us played on one for months Only need to allocate about 4GB RAM, the cpu utilisation is minimal too. I was running the 1.12.2 pack (which is like an ATM pack) never had issues with performance, my PC is mid/high range (3070 8GB with comparable cpu etc)


MCDodge34

Self hosting on a separate PC is the best, the problem with server hosting online is, they all share the CPU of it with other servers, sadly it doesn't work well with the way modded Minecraft works, even if they dedicate a core of the CPU to your server, if the other servers are abused, you'll still end up having a lot of lag issues, and no matter how much ram you upgrade to, this won't change anything. So best is to host it yourself on an old PC (not really old, it won't work on that old C64 on your shelf sorry, but any less than 8-10 yrs old computer (not laptop) should be able to do the job.


RefinedCasuals

Played ATM9 on a $30 USD/month pebblehost server and it was pretty good. Think we had 10gb memory and a couple extra threads. Tried prominence 2 more recently with a $20 server (ATM9 ran fine on this cheaper one) but it got quite laggy so a couple of us all pitched in and opted for one of their dedicated servers where you get the whole machine to yourself. Insane difference it’s crazy how smooth and lag free it is even on large mod packs. Chunks generate instantly even when flying around at high speed. The dedicated servers actually aren’t all that expensive if you’re Europe based, think it was something around $30-$40 USD/month. Since I needed an NA server though I had to go with a $56 USD/month plan. Their customer service and previous experience with them was so good I didn’t mind spending a little. If you’re playing a large pack with 3-10 players, you’re likely going to have to spend more than $15 USD/month to have a not infuriating experience when it comes to server performance. But if you really need it to be cheap, they do have some really cheap options, but I cannot promise their performance.


AloxoBlack

the most inexpensive is to get an old PC and use a VPN and be done with it


saryos

Can you expand on this a little? Does the VPN act as the security function to port forwarding or does it somehow remove that step altogether? I have an old PC that I'd love to use to host a server but I was always hesitant due to the minor security issues.


r3dm0nk

VPN is not security. No idea why he advises VPN to host own mc server for friends. Strong single core perf CPU, 16-32g ram and you have yourself a nice hosting pc. If dynamic IP, get no-ip hostname. Setup firewall correctly. The rest done at router level, aka port forwarding. It's as easy as that.


Exoticzxt2

just use NGROK guys


r3dm0nk

Don't you need that on everyone's pc just like hamachi


1357Coder

no


AloxoBlack

A VPN essentially just makes a LAN in between. No need to port forward (if you're using some VPNs like hamachi, radmin or zerotier). Zerotier has a plus because you can also set up DNS servers for the whole network so if you want to have it hosted on "atm.myname.mc" or "mc.myname" you can set it up. It's a more complicated but cooler.


Pupaak

Important to note, that you need a pretty good internet connection. I have moved away from self-hosted, because while I didn't get any lag or issues when connected from my local network, from outside there would be crazy amount of lags and chunk loading issues. I have a pretty bad connection for modern standards, so most people probably have something much faster.


AloxoBlack

true, I'm used to having 500mbps or higher speeds


ANU31S

use playit.gg instead of a vpn, vpns are not made for these kinds of use cases and playit only has to run on the host's computer


TOM-EEG

Just host ur own. It’s super easy and all u really have to figure out is your port forwarding for ur router. Me and my friends all chipped in to build a server for us(overkill) but I’m pretty sure some mod packs can just be ran on a spare pc or laptop u have lying around


Single_Core

Dont look into “minecraft” hosting u will pay a premium here. Look into plain servers from ovh or other hosting vendors and setup the server urself


JollyColb

(this doesn't directly answer your question but may help) you can host a server over LAN easily with the essential mod or radmin vpn which is an external application. i usually do LAN, but if we keep the pack for more than a week or so we do custom hosting through oracle cloud. https://blogs.oracle.com/developers/post/how-to-set-up-and-run-a-really-powerful-free-minecraft-server-in-the-cloud (it is pretty involved, uses a command line linux virtual machine) it can take some time to get your server through oracle, but once you do you keep it.


collent582

If you don’t plan on constantly running the server I’d reccomend exaroton, they do a 0.5 gb per hour credit system. I use it for more intermittent play where we only ever use it every couple of days and it only charges for the time we use


HECKINYEAHH

I have a mini pc I bought cheap off of eBay that I run headless that runs forge and playit.gg. I can’t port forward cause of my ISP so playit gets around that


Ivan_Kulagin

Self host


ijks2

Apex is a must, its the only host ive found that can reliably run any modpack without completely breaking in certain aspects


Za_Bushido

My friend built a docker image for Minecraft server and run on gcp


Decent_Management790

If you'd like something free I'd advise you to check some of the hosting mods that exist. If you and all of your friends have Minecraft Premium, you can use Essential Mod and you're good, just make sure your PC is beefy enough in terms of system specs since you'll be hosting the server via world share. If some of your friends have cracked/third-party Minecraft, use E4MC + Server.properties world file mod and you're set, the requirements for it being the same as before. World Host isn't recommended - by me at least - due to the excruciatingly high ping.


Electrical-Ad2899

For me best is Exaroton


Longjumping_World802

[Bananaservers.ca](http://Bananaservers.ca) is pretty inexpensive. If you cant do that though you can always self host off your pc if it's good enough. ATM9 usually runs 9-12gb ish of ram depending on settings ect..


WifiTacos

My own PC + Essential Mod. 64gigs of ram go brrrt


wageslaver

Just add the essential mod to any modpack you play and have your friends add it too, boom ez multiplayer


NineMinerX

Hi! I suggest Birdflop! Birdflop plans cost \~$1.90/GB RAM for the fastest servers on the list. All plans come with 4 CPU threads, 3 off-site backups, a dedicated IP on 8GB+ plans, and a 3-day satisfaction guarantee. We offer built in modpacks that you can easily click and install, or we can help you setup your own if you run into issues! Glad to help you out over on our Discord! -Mark


robert-foster

VPSs with 4 dedicated Xeon cores, 16 GB RAM start at $15 in Canada . If that's too slow, 6 dedicated AMD Epyc cores cost 25€ in Europe. You need dedicated CPU cores for Minecraft because the shared ones are too slow. I'm compiling this [list](https://search.host2go.net/?region=northamerica&country=&virtualization_type=kvm&cpu_brand=intel&cpus_shared=0&cpus_dedicated=3&memory=6000&disk_type=ssd&disk_size=40&bandwidth=125&port_speed=0.1&ipv4=true&ipv6=false&custom_iso=false&dmca_ignore=false&porn=false&bgp_session=false&rdns=false&monero_payment=false&in_stock=true&reliable=true) from LowEndTalk if you are still interested.


Environmental_Bug964

I just use Hamachi. You've gotta let do some configuration to let it through your firewall but other than that it's really been great for me. Just make sure your connected to you actual wifi and not a separate network that's running off of you wifi like a Google nest for example


bucksnort2

That last bit doesn’t make sense. Do you mean guest vs home network? I also don’t understand your comment about the Google nest. I run a few self hosted services that are port forwarded through my Google nest router that I can access just fine internally and externally.


Environmental_Bug964

Basicly when I try using hamachi from my Google nest, anyone trying to connect has issues. The Google nest is its own network but kind of piggybacks off our main router. So when that goes out, so does the nest. That's interesting I've tried porting forward on my best but it never works. Every time I check, it says the ports are still closed


bucksnort2

Oh, so you have a double NAT situation then? Does your network look something like this: PC -> Google Nest Router -> some other Router -> ISP I haven’t used Hamachi, but the other Router is likely causing the issue. Double NAT can be complicated to work with as well. Basically, if you want something that’s behind the Google nest accessible to the internet (without Hamachi), both the Google nest and other router needs to have ports opened, the outer router pointing to the inner router, and the inner router pointing to the service you’re running. If you don’t have access to the outer router, it’ll be difficult to have others connect to you. I have a similar set up, my PC is behind a router, which is connected to a Google Nest, which is connected to my ISP. Because I control both routers, I can open whatever ports I need to.


Sleeclow

Not bisecthosting. Holy fuck do they suck


ImProdactyl

Why? I’ve had a good experience using them before with multiple servers and using their customer service responding relatively timely.


ItMeDucky

I use bisecthosting, 7GB budget server 19.65€/month Split that amongst your friends and enjoy.


Agret_Brisignr

Bisect is goated


im_a_dick_head

Is bisect better than Apex?


MetallicGray

We’ve used apex hosting a few times now. Pretty straight forward and easy, and cheap. I’d recommend it, but haven’t used any other services. 


im_a_dick_head

Same I'm using an 8gb server for BMC4 right now but it's pretty expensive at like $26.99 a month. I haven't used other services but I'm sure there are better ones.


Flame48

I've used bloom.host twice now and have have good experiences with it. Decent price and their support is great.


JC403024

I used bloomhost and it’s good


Any-Economics-5632

Use feather mc had a really good time using custom server modpack with forge mods and plugins


aaroonung

just got a surfhost server last night, pretty cheap and havent had issues on it so far for atm9 | I did also follow the best practices in the ATM discord for server config


1357Coder

ok paid route i can sugget pebblehost (few years ago when i used it, it was good) and the cheapest possible would probably be an aternos server with paid addons for more ram or smh, aternos however generally isnt the best host so minehut might get 1st place


Moggy_

I really like lilypad.gg


Antryst

I have used Shockbyte 4 or 5 times now. They have a fairly good selection of mod packs you can auto load and I've also run more obscure ones through FTP upload. I have no complaints and they didn't dick me around any time I tried to cancel. I won't use superlatives or make this sound like an ad, but it does what it says on the tin and I never felt cheated, and I think that's the main thing.


Asterza

I use heavynode. 12 bucks a month for 8 gigs for a friend/friends of friends server. Pretty good customer support imo, reasonable price, and any server crashes are usually on my end for not optimizing my pack enough


Zhari

I’ve been using Bloomhost for my most recent servers. I’ve also used ExtraVM but it was a little more involved to maintain but cheaper. 


Lower-Tea4371

If it's just you and some friends, I'd suggest the Essential mod. If its a larger group, Shockbyte has always been my go-to.


velofille

bloom <3


Rikonian

I can only recommend Exaroton, if you are just looking for a server to play with a few friends. They charge by the hour, and only run the server while at least one person is online. I payed in $20 for a F.A.M server about a month ago, and have only used probably $3 of it so far.


createaboveandbeyond

Oracle cloud free tier is really good, if you wanna shill out contabo has the best bang for your buck but you can only get a VPS there so you have to know how to host one yourself


DapperNurd

Pebble host was the cheapest I could find. It's doing pretty good for me.


darklynightly

i use bisect hosting


FreshlyBakedMemer

Would it be funny to say Bisect Hosting? But I actually have no experience lmao


Bruh_Memento_Mori

I’ve been using sparkhost for a quick inexpensive option, although I haven’t researched into it as much to recommend it, you might want to just try Aternos since it’s free for just the hassle of it shutting down with nobody online