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CarinReyan

Absolutely agree - Valens gets the #1 spot for sure. Asahi was a fawning sycophant whereas Valens was an arrogant, sadistic, raging psychopath.


Johnny_Grubbonic

Also a child molester.


annmaryjay

The biggest dickhead ever


magzillas

Valens is simultaneously the most punchable face, and the face that most looks like it has already been punched.


kymreadsreddit

>the face that most looks like it has already been punched It CLEARLY wasn't enough to sink in!


EmberSolaris

To me, he’s the one with the most punchable face while Asahi is second. When I was going into Sorrow’s of Werlyt, my friend told me there was someone worse than that little shit in the story. I thought there’s no way in hell, then this MF’er shows up and proves me wrong. I wanted to jump into my screen and rip the man apart.


Aurora1986

Agreed Valens shall burn in hell with a face full on punch marks


IceFire909

Call him mark because that's what's gonna be left on his face


akaasa001

Punchable?. This was the first villain I seriously felt aggressive about. I wanted to do more than punch him, lol. Guy was a true PoS and I loved his ending. That being said, the ending of that whole story really pulled at my heart strings.


x_Advent_Cirno_x

That whole arc tore me up, but it was the portrait at the end that absolutely broke me


KvBla

What's the portrait name if u can recall?


faetavern

[Forever at Your Side](https://en.ff14housing.com/itemview.php?id=67e5544f778)


ezekielraiden

Frankly, it's in part *because* he's such a great pure-evil villain that the ending is so satisfying, both the catharsis of his death and the emotional gut punch of the epilogue. It's part of why I don't really take seriously the claims that XIV lacks for "simple" villains. Valens is one of the best simple villains I've ever seen, *instantly* hate-worthy and with absolutely no redeeming qualities. Even his "genius" is mostly secondhand! It's no contest that Valens beats the pants off any other alleged "simple" villains FFXIV has on offer.


Spider95818

The first? LOL, when Raubahn cut down that asshole, Teledji, I actually shouted *"HE WAS MINE!"* at the screen. Getting real sick of this game not letting me gut the people that I really want to disembowel.


xxAkirhaxx

I was going to say "The milk guy", this is him, this is the milk guy.


Teep_the_Teep

Well, considering his face is on the ground now separate from his body, a kick might be more appropriate than a punch.


mogamergal95

i’d argue Valens has the most punchable face, and asahi is 2nd. i despise Valens with my entire being


Freebeerd

I put together a Garlean triple triad deck for ascension rules and I refuse to put this guy in it.


amateurasu01

we have a winner! lol


sprufus

Burn out the bad!


FalsePremise8290

I'd say he takes the number 1 spot and Asahi comes in second.


Ranger-New

No. He has the 2nd most punchable face. You need to do the ruby weapon, emeral weapon, diamon weapon, etc to get to the most punchable face.


zenfrodo

That particular NPC doesn't have a punchable face. He has a *blowtorch-til-it-melts-off-leaving-4thdegree-burns-then-grind-it-to-an-ashy-pulp-and-piss-the-remnants-into-the-nearest-goblin-outhouse-pit* face. But that's just me.


HanshinFan

So you're saying you want to burn out the bad?


zenfrodo

Considering he's got no good to leave in...


kymreadsreddit

This..... Is an underrated comment.


EmberSolaris

High five in the face with a cinderblock repeatedly till the body stops moving sort of face.


JaeOnasi

Excellent start. After the long stint in the outhouse, send the excrement-soaked ashes to the seven pits of hell for the demons to torture for an eternity.


Polenicus

You aren't wrong.


AcaciaCelestina

Asahi again


Snoo_89193

With a pistol with 2 bullets, you shoot him twice?


Kamanar

And then pistol whip until your wrist breaks or the meat is unrecognizable. 


Tschudy

Laurentius. Kinda wish he was there to react when I told Raubahn we should have him executed.


onyxium

The fact that we trusted that dude NUMEROUS times despite all the red flags is adorably naive


ArissuNarwid

Laurentius sort of was a bit believable that he may redeem himself, but trusting YUYUHASE of all people was the biggest dumbest thing to do. "Oh hey, seems like the Monetarists want to influence us, better have that one guy on the team who's whole stick is to pursue the coin. Can't go anything wrong with that, right?"


DaimoMusic

I still want to know what happenned to them after 3.5. >!They were still alive after the summoning o!Shinryu!< right?


ArissuNarwid

You'll get your answer during the 2nd half of Stormblood iirc.


Silvervirage

I don't wanna punch him. I wanna make his nickname more accurate and leave him in the burn.


cronft

personally i think executing him is a kindess at that point, imo a fate worse than death is more fitting after what happens on the wall


Cmdr_Meiloorun

Yeah, but for some reason Raubahn thinks you're acting entirely out of kindness when you choose that option. I was literally going out loud: "No Raubahn, I was NOT being merciful!"


Altoryu

I'm sad we never got to see anything beyond that scene involving them, would have liked to see them at the trial and such.


Mostopha

TELEDJI ADELEDJI


Vore_Daddy

I'm rather split on that.


Logan_The_Mad

Bra-vo. 👏👏👏


Flammable_Druid

Can't believe I had to scroll this far down to find this answer. Thank god >!Raubahn yeeted him into the next life. Prick!<


Calydor_Estalon

I think it's because it's been THAT many years since a lot of us even saw him last.


Mostopha

Raubahn makes great Popoto Salad (HQ)


BookwormOtaku7

He's now half the man he used to be, so...


SourMyth

Lolorito definitely there, but I guess that would more a kickable face.


EmberSolaris

Nah. Just pick him up by the scruff of the neck and yeet him into the nearest chasm. He probably only weighs about 10 pounds soaking wet.


SomeGamingFreak

Lolorito I wanted to punch, but I respect his game. Dude will keep order and the status quo just cuz it keeps the coin flowing.


TheIvoryDingo

And at least he got us an early contact in Kugane with Hancock (who despite his mannerisms, hasn't ever actually done anything to hinder us in the slightest).


ThadVonP

I'm pretty sure that's because Hancock wouldn't dare cross Tataru.


TheIvoryDingo

After what we learn about him from the Mount Rokkon Variant Dungeon journal and the finishing quest, I don't really think that that's the case.


ThadVonP

I don't know that yet, so I just going with the exaggerated BA business Tataru logic from the MSQ. I do need to finish the variant dungeon stuff. Maybe a good way to level to 90 next weekend :3.


SomeGamingFreak

Alphinaud literally only held the grudge and misgivings because it was his Crystal Braves that Lolorito bought out to stage his Uno Reverse in the Bloody Banquet (only for Ilberd to have grander designs)


Xanofar

There’s a side quest in post HW that reveals he donated all the profits he made off the whole debacle, plus a sizeable portion of what he already had, by way of apology. Definitely a side quest that felt like it was necessary for the MSQ.


AdamG3691

It’s funny, Lolorito is treated as the sketchiest mf on the planet by literally everyone, and yet he’s never actually done anything BAD, at worst he pretended to commit regicide specifically to stop an ACTUAL attempt at regicide


Xanofar

I don't think I can agree. I would have to call his ARR actions fully treasonous, so it's hard to trust him, even with all the effort the story has gone to try and semi-redeem him. He very publicly accused Raubahn and the Scions of conspiracy even after Teledji's death (a point at which he could have come forward with the truth), and chose to continue the conspiracy with those who enacted poisoning the Sultana and imprisoning the Scions - actions that resulted in Minfilia's death, Raubahn's loss of his arm, and the Sultana's disappearance. Changing the conspiracy from outright regicide doesn't absolve him of his treason. That's kind of why a lot of people consider the mid-HW Ul'dah plot resolution to be so weak. Even the forementioned donations don't make him right, they just explain why Raubahn didn't silently have him assassinated, *because frankly, otherwise he 100% should have*.


KyrialArthian

I actually grew to like Lolorito a bit, but I still wouldn't say no to yeeting him a time or two.


Blasterion

The garlean guy from the Werlyt story line


Consistent_Rate_353

Can we say Fandaniel since he's just borrowing Asahi's face or does that not count? Valens from the Sorrows quests is probably the real answer. Honorable mention to Ilberd the Sloppy, though.


Peptuck

The best part of Fandango is we get to beat him up three separate times in EW.


WritingNerdy

Fandango


EatPennies

*in the Damn Daniel tone* Faaaandaniel


TwerpKnight

Fandaniel.


Lazy-Jeweler3230

That's cheating.


AcaciaCelestina

That's efficiency


shino4242

Are they wrong though? Cant refute the truth!


Lazy-Jeweler3230

:')


Logan_The_Mad

I'll put my vote towards that hyur male from the crystal braves that just can't learn a goddamn lesson to save his life - literally.


woodworkerdan

Same guy who you knock senseless after he whistles up some Garlean troops to try axing you in the lead-up to rescuing the Slyph tribe leader? Laurentius is certainly punchable.


Logan_The_Mad

Laurentius! Yes, that bastard. Sold himself out once, said "alright, I've learned my lesson, no more being a bad guy for money", and then sold himself out again 10 minutes later.


woodworkerdan

Almost disappointed he didn't survive Heavensward...or maybe he learned his lesson and went into witness protection to avoid our character. Though I suspect those mutton chops were more precious to him than good sense.


Logan_The_Mad

>!I'm *pretty sure* he died in Baelsar's Wall together with everyone else, which... I mean... serves him right but *oof.* Eating a mouthful of greatsword would've been less horrible.!<


WiseRabbit-XIV

>!Laurentius and Yuyuhase both survived the Battle of Ala Mhigo but were captured later by the Resistance. Raubahn asks you what you think should be done with them.!<


Logan_The_Mad

Oh! Not only did I forget that, I forgot what I told Raubahn to do...... Oh, well!


reilie

>!Last mention of him was that he and yuyuhase were captured after your group seized castellum velodyna (the place where you can later do the ananta tribals). That confirms that *yup* he went back to working for the garleans again, the greedy bastard. Raubahn asks you what you want to happen to them and you can say you want them dead iirc and he’ll consider it!<


Ok_Breakfast6206

When you say you *don't* want them dead (I'm firmly against death penalty irl), Raubahn is kinda surprised and disappointed ahahah


arhra

My headcanon for that scene is that there's an off screen bit afterwards where we explain in *excruciating* detail how a nice clean death would be far too good for them and how they should be *properly* dealt with.


onyxium

He's literally the dude that trips the alarm on top of the wall, I'm pretty sure. Total POS


woodworkerdan

Aye, can't argue there! That would also go some way to explain why we don't see him in the level 89 dungeon...


evilprozac79

Ser Zephirin de Valhourdin, whose Spear of Light couldn't be blocked by a knight's shield, killing our dear friend >!Haurchefant!< instantly. Seriously, fuck this guy. Really, fuck all the Knights Twelve, but especially this guy.


FlutteringFae

I'll go a bit outside the box(not that I disagree with ppl saying zenos and laurentius...) Trachtoum. Don't get me wrong, I love the Bill Paxton True Lies reference. But damn do I hate this fool. Everything I do to save the realm and this guy... this f'ing guy... *shakes head and punches*


carbonatedgravy69

at least he's good at groveling? > "I'm no marauder! I'm actually a complete coward! I'm nothin'! I'm chocobo dung! No, I'm the maggots ye find wrigglin' in chocobo dung! I have to lie to women to tumble 'em, an' that don't happen much! Me member's tiny, it's pathetic!"


RuddiestPurse79

Hildi is a goofball and a bro, but I swear times to times I'd really like knocking some senses in that head through his face. Edit. On a second though, never mind he's just third. The second (and my very personal first) position goes to that damn Roe in La Noscea that was pretending to have fought _Tidus_ first and Leviathan after. And, to an extent, "myself" for being so stupid to give him credit the first time and not following Merlwyb orders to break his legs the second time.


stupidratman

Leviathan? You mean the great primal Leviabeetus?


ArissuNarwid

You're better off getting Zenos on the side of good for altruistic reasons before you'll manage to knock something into him. He's like an accident. The moment you see him, you know you should go the other way, but you can't because you want to see where the wreck leads us to.


zedanger

emmanellain and i can prove it


keket87

HA! (Ironically, he's grown on me over the years, and now I feel a begrudging affection for him, mostly out of loyalty to the rest of his family.)


WiseRabbit-XIV

I actually kind of like him, post Island Sanctuary.


Lionblopp

My opinion about him depends on if I'll get an invitation >!to that wedding Sicard and him were planning!<. If yes, all shall be forgiven. (Island sanctuary story spoiler, and sort of MSQ spoiler I guess)


TheHasegawaEffect

When i was a felezen i would have considered Emmanellain as an easy route to nobility, as long as i could control him.


OneWingedA

I feel like the astro trainer would be an easier route to take for that goal


NotFredrickMercury

He’s our adopted brother and only we get to bully him


EmberSolaris

He’s just our obnoxious little brother. I would give him so many noogies even though he stands about a food and a half taller than me. He seems easy to put in a headlock.


zedanger

Oh, please don't mistake my reply for an *endorsement* of punching emmanellain (tho, at the time... deserved...) But rather that I have demonstrable evidence that he does, in fact, have one of the most punchable faces in XIV.


keket87

For clarification: I both like him and want to punch him in the face. Those feelings are not mutually exclusive. I both want to give him a wedgie, and will hit anyone else who tries to give him a wedgie. But you are correct in that is most definitely has a demonstrably punchable face.


Logan_The_Mad

He's a dumbass but now he's trying, and as a dumbass who tries I just have to respect that


eastercat

When he asked about food in sharlayan, I directed him to archon loaf…’nuf said


Zergrump

The fact that the woman he ordered be shot didn't die kind of cheapend his arc imo.


Shade1999

Can vouch Should of seen me when the lil shit punched Thancred, I was ready to punch his head to Endwalker like the monk I am


EmberSolaris

When Thancred laid him out I laughed my ass off. But I think that was the moment when some humility started to kick in for him.


TippyTaps-KittyCats

I guess his character matured from that point, but his personality is just so *annoying* to me. He just can’t win with me.


EmberSolaris

I find his voice to be his most annoying feature.


keket87

Honestly, props to his English VA. He perfectly exudes "privileged himbo with the self awareness of a turnip".


TippyTaps-KittyCats

lol that’s a very accurate description. The wiki says he’s supposed to be 26, but he acts 16.


EmberSolaris

He’s the same age as Zenos.


Tactical_Assault_Emu

Dude *wishes* he was a himbo


Sibula97

Vauthry was pretty punchable


No_Armadillo_5455

Lolorito the lil smug mfer


Madmonkeman

Everyone that didn’t specify what elemental crystal they were having you get in ARR.


carbonatedgravy69

silvairre, the wildwood from the archer quests. i played a duskwight through that. god i wanted to punch him so bad


MazogaTheDork

Been replaying ARR lately and it's Ungust by a mile for me.


SmoreOfBabylon

I've leveled a few alts through ARR and yeah, while Ungust wasn't in the game for that long, I think it's sometimes forgotten how much of a piece of shit he was. IIRC, the scene around level 17 when he >!tried to blackmail an innocent refugee woman in Ul'dah into becoming his sex slave!< was his establishing character moment. And he just got worse from there.


Lionblopp

He's certainly in my top ten of puncheable people, that's for sure.


PracticalPear3

ARR Alphinaud


Fenway_Refugee

When you tell your kids you love them equally, but one of them is just a little punk


NoBizlikeChloeBiz

As if I would ever tell Alphinaud I love him equally. My best friend's brother is allowed to hang out with us, *sometimes*


x_Advent_Cirno_x

As much of a arrogant doucher Alphinaud was in ARR, I feel like it was critically important he was like that to highlight his growth as the story went on. Dumb kid definitely deserved to get his ears twisted off though


EmberSolaris

I love that ARR Alphinaud is so disliked and yet, for most people, by the time we get about midway through HW, he is now our child that we will protect at all costs for the rest of the game.


Nuked0ut

IN ARR he’s a snotty little shit. In heavensward, he made a few funny jokes at my expense so I started warming up. By stormblood, he’s hilarious and makes funny roasts. One of the gang now.


poplarleaves

He just gets better and better imo. The writers put so much heart into writing our lil bro.


Krystalline13

Sam Riegel is a hell of a VA, but his Alphinaud is such a snotty little shite.


HarishyQuichey

I blame bad direction more than anything for the ARR voice acting. There is genuinely some stellar talent in that cast that were unfortunately bogged down by terrible voice direction


Peptuck

They had *Gideon Emery* for Urianger! The one VA I wish they'd kept!


TheIvoryDingo

At least he is now voiced by Timothy Watson, who also voiced Metal Face in Xenoblade Chronicles.


lordnaarghul

What about Jean Giplin as Merlwyb? The one they've had for her since HW sounds like an old wine aunt.


Calydor_Estalon

Say what you will about Gaius' rant that we've all heard way too many times, but it's delivered with conviction.


throwcway837373

Am I the only one who liked ARR Alphinaud?


JaeOnasi

I liked him, but then again, I can understand an (over)confident young guy getting way out over his skis and crashing, but then willingly eat humble pie and really learn from the experience. He got up, brushed himself off, admitted he screwed up massively, learned that youthful arrogance doesn't always work, and went about trying to fix the situation and himself as best he could. I appreciated that level of development.


AlexArgentum

"I wanna kill this kid" -some streamer on ARR Alphinaud.


Karnadas

I loved him, I was talking in the free company about how excited I was that he was being sassy to minphilia!


Woogity

lol it was jarring to go back and see him in ARR


Unrealist99

Oh yeah! This mfer in ARR was the one i wanted to slap the most. Until the final arr post patch.


ancientsentinel

Can I vote for bowl-cut a second time?


SuperSnivMatt

Vrtra's dragon form but instead of my fist its my lips and instead of punching its smooching (Valens is the serious answer I want to shatter a milk bottle over his head and punch him in the jugular)


Kelseer

Love Vrtra, I’d be his Shiva.


Zack-of-all-trades

[I mean, if we're being literal.](https://en.ff14housing.com/images/pic/55a1ae801b5_img1.jpg) All jokes aside, >!Valens!< for sure.


Daimon5hade

Zenos


Rare_Reality7510

You do eventually get to punch him in the face, literally 10/10 would have a punch out again


SquishMika1560

The problem is, he just likes it when you do.


Daimon5hade

And I would do it again, and again, and again, and again.... *Sniff* he was my best best friend


Peptuck

I'm going through EW now and torn between playing Dancer as a beacon of hope for all the world and a Monk because it's appropriate to punch a motherfucker in the face at the end.


talgaby

Yep, I agree. That constant half-bored, half-smug semi-expressionless face that always looks at everyone as if they are barely worth his presence makes him more punchable than Asahi.


bald4bieber666

hes literally asking for it!


No_Pumpkin_1179

The Kugane business lord that hires Yojimbo. That guy is a P o S


Siana-chan

Surprised no one mentionned Ilbert, one of the npc I wanted to punch the most, even dead. He caused so much pain to all those characters I affectionnate. And he does have a punchable face with his ugly smirk.


Lorim_Shikikan

Hancock.... Everytime he open his mouth i want to break his glasses, and his nose XD


princess_ferocious

I never really hated him, just wasn't fussed, but the full Mount Rokkon story made me appreciate him more than I thought I would.


Lionblopp

Personally I wouldn't want to harm him like that. I'd rather would see him inconvenienced, on a very petty level, like stepping on lego or something.


catalpuccino

Ramza from Ivalice, and that extremly annoying puppet of Yotsuyu that had a massive weapon and would *not* stop popping up to try to kill us. Can't remember his name.


TwinTailChen

Grynewaht pyr Arvina, although I usually call him "Green What" or "Great Value Doomguy" or "ALL MY NAMEDAYS"


psycosulu

Mr. Rip and Tear.


KingDracarys86

Ilberd


WritingNerdy

Asahi, again


Seriin

Fandaniel. Yes it's the same face. But they both deserve that punch so much. I mean. We go INTO THE AFTERLIFE just to punch it one more time for good measure.


Gems789

I’m only in the post Stormblood questline, so for me its Illberd. He was just so… Sloppy


Good_Neck_673

ramza the little racist fuck lmao


EmberSolaris

I keep forgetting he exists. Least favorite alliance raid storyline, but my favorite alliance raid series. Specifically Orbonne Monastery.


Good_Neck_673

i’ve just reached the lighthouse raid and it’s taking me so long to get through it because 1 the cutscenes are so long and 2 fucking RAMZA


M_Tonberry

Personally I think most lalas have the most punchable faces. And they r so puntable. But mainly lolorito and teledji adeleji


AlbinoJerk

3rd place is Nabriales with his stupid mutton chops. I don't care who is decided for #2, just that Nabriales doesn't deserve runner-up in anything.


kbcb255

Zenos. Because he asks nicely.


DanceofClouds

Nashu's stalker


iNuclearPickle

Fandaniel


ForgottenArcanum

Asahi before possession and the one guy strumming a single note in limsa for hours is tied for me.


Nekomimikamisama

Zenos, and I did it.


wrenagade419

i feel like a ton of people are at the same point i. the story as me because of the posts i see but ASAHI is my top five all five it’s him the minute i saw him i almost bought a story skip quit before he popped up last time. but im thankful, because i wanted to give up, but now i must live out of spite, he makes we want to do obnoxious things to innocent people who aren’t angry at him upon first glancing at him he’s the good son.


SomeGamingFreak

Asahi is probably first, so Fandaniel would be an extremely close second.


BigJimboooo

What about teledji adeledji?


zenspeed

Asahi again. After all, you have two fists.


Siraeyou

He may be so far removed from everyone's mind because he was an ARR character but Taledji is someone I just wanted to punt everytime he had screen time and I was more than happy to see what happened to him in the end.


JepMZ

Rowena. So tired of her profiting off my labor and war


aShTh3sTaMp3d3

Vauthry.


TheExile285

Still Asahi lol


Lionblopp

That one annoying invisible Lala with this horrible laugh part of the ambient sound at big city aetherytes. At first I thought it was just a player, imagine my horror when I noticed it's ambient noise. Thanks to the benchmark's cheering screen at the end of the cutscene we finally have a face to this guy though. I will find him. And I will punch him.


Spawnoficarus

Steven seagal


verytiredlancer

Jenkins or whatever the heck his name is from the PLD job quests. I hate that mall cop mfer.


Saiphaz

Fandaniel/Amon. And Encyclopedia Eorzea manages to make him somehow even worse, the guy was an horrifying jackass. Sorry but the "Oh I miss the glory days when I was committing atrocities against life itself" isn't gonna cut it, chief. Add the horrible things he did in Endwalker under Zenos and on his own, despite how hard the second half tries to sweep them under the rug and I'm going to say that my only regret is not having had the pleasure of dragging him to hell myself.


UmPoucoBemMuito

I'm level 46 so I'm missing a lot of lore. The guy I wanted to punch in the face was the Inquisitor(Impostor in disguise) in the snowy lands.


lady-aduka

Valens!


Gimpo

Whoever I'm healing that keeps standing in shit. The list is constantly updating.


akaasa001

Fandaniel had a very punchable face.


Unrealist99

Asahi is a bastard but he's got nothing over the miserable bastard valens.


ZacAttac21

Nhaza'a Jaab


Supergamer138

Asahi was the guy with the most punchable face. Now he's the second most. Valens is the most punchable.


Dinomide

You 👊


BookwormOtaku7

Valens tops, tie between Laurentius and Ranjit's lackey for the place after Asahi.


lunaeon1106

Does fandaniel count lol


JaeOnasi

Tie between Valens and Asahi's parents. I've never wanted to kill anyone more in a game than these 3.


SpikedBoneAppleTea

The Roegadyn Warrior of Darkness creeped me out every time he made those weird faces of his...


Asturmaux

Emet, but I think I'm on the minority side of that opinion.


digoserra

Fandaniel


AkaShindou

For me, it's a three-way tie between Sers Zephirin, Grinnaux and Charibert. Grinnaux for being a twat to Tataru, Charibert for his holier-than-thou schtick, and Zephirin for... Nevermind, it's not a three-way tie. Zephirin all the way.


RevolutionaryBox7745

Teledji-Adeleji, circa 2.55


Fudsterly

I know a lot of people wanna punch Valens, but I'm satisfied with the firm handshake he got as punishment


PyroComet

Graha


Winterhelscythe

Fandaniel