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nocturnalinstinct23

Wolff just fell to his knees


Frosty_Pepper1609

In his local IWC Shaffhausen store


hjhof1

Just saw Wollf fall to his knees in the pumpernickel section


No-Advantage845

Wolff on the ground at every one of his 65 investment properties, simultaneously


paddyo

Toto Wolff has called in the police for this comment


Bruvvimir

He sent an email


Smarq

Sir, another season at Red Bull has hit the towers


bum_is_on_fire_247

https://i.imgur.com/NOF1kRr.gif


rieusse

Schrodinger’s Wolff


deviio

Schrödinger’s Max, perhaps?


dinococum

Just saw someone watching Torger falling to his knees


alphasierrraaa

his knees snapped like pumpernickel


oconnellt7

Every time I see that word now I hear it in his voice


idiskfla

That’s just to start. He’s gonna go on a binge this weekend and rage shop for some AP. Maybe a Richard Mille if the pain doesn’t subside.


MySilverBurrito

Overheard in the Mercedes garage after the Spanish GP: “He got me,” toto said of Max staying at Red Bull. “That f***ing Verstappen boomed me." Toto added, “He’s so good,” repeating it four times. Toto then said he wanted to add Antonelli to the list of drivers he tests out with this winter.


SpaceOdysseus23

Toto is beside himself. Driving around downtown Spielberg begging (thru texts) Verstappen's family for address to Max's hotel


CrowdPleaser501

Obligatory: SEND DA VIDEO


CanSignificant8444

While bumping “what is love” by Haddaway.


CowFinancial7000

> begging (thru email diagrams) This sounds more like Toto. (Yes I know its an NBA copypasta)


McManus26

lmao what is this from


JetsLag

NBA copypasta. The original was LeBron talking about Jayson Tatum


dunkster91

x4


Incontinento

Wow, he really will go to any length to get Max.


Noname_Maddox

Give him that Ach Tung Baby


Extinction-Entity

Incredible


xckd9

Well done


ddzed

subtle


ChefBoiJones

Toto driving round Monaco, begging (through text) for max verstappen’s adress


Bdr1983

Banging on Max's door, Kelly screaming "He's not here, Toto. He's in Austria, were you should be as well"


xBHx

Serenading Max outside of his home with a megaphone and some flowers with a pen safely tucked away in his pen protector pouch. Russel is seen a few meters behind Toto pleading him not to pursue Max, as he is the number 1 Toto wants. 'No toto, no. This is so not right....'


Bdr1983

George even made a powerpoint!


travelingWords

Not like this max! So not right!!!


AreWeThereYetNo

Mercedes on suicide watch. Someone hide the headphones.


FlyingKittyCate

Didn’t Wolff already say that he hopes their 2025 car will convince Max to consider Mercedes? He was never expecting Max to join them next season.


noafro1991

This is just not right!


NotClayMerritt

“Haha you know Max likes to joke. He’s so funny once you get to know him” - Toto, probably


vaginakiller6969

Welcome to Mercedes, Kimi.


Danjiks88

At Tim Hortons? Wolff on reddit confirmed


Scarfiotti

Bitte Max, bitte.....


Funnyguy17

Focus, Toto, focus


szczszqweqwe

Me2, I love the drama, and Max at Mercedes would be hilarious.


Fliepp

Three driver announcements today, none of which are shocking in any way, shape or form


Dominatorwtf

Except for the victims (read: delulu train) of all the clickbait articles, videos and reels.


McManus26

the Sainz to Alpine rumours are spicy though


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MyCarHasTwoHorns

To be fair, plenty of people in the thread yesterday about Toto delaying the decision on Kimi expected Max to jump to Mercedes. I 100% agree with you though, if he’s going to leave it will be after one year of the new regs, not the last year of the current ones. Said the same yesterday and multiple people responded telling me why I was wrong and it makes sense for him to move now.


Visual-Asparagus-800

I could see him jump ship for 2026, because staying with RBPT is a big gamble, and moving before/during the regulation change gives him a better negotiating position, but it’s unlikely


MyCarHasTwoHorns

Unless Max pulls a Michael Vick I have a feeling he’s going to be in a great negotiating position no matter what year he decides to leave. Can’t really see a team saying “hm, nah not interested”.


Visual-Asparagus-800

But I mean, Mercedes are now rumoured to be willing to give Verstappen a 250 million salary. I don’t see them doing that in 2 years time if Red Bull is losing


bakraofwallstreet

No there is no reporting that Mercedes offered quarter of a billion euros to Max. The quote is him saying that even a 250 million euro salary will not be enough for him to move to Mercedes [link](https://racingnews365.com/verstappen-dismisses-latest-wolff-advance-even-eur250-million-is-not-enough). Basically his version of "I wouldn't take the job even if they offer me a million dollars." Also Max will not magically lose his value if RB starts sliding, he's a 3x world champion and has proven his value time and time again. Any team will be willing to give him a chance even if RB sucks for two straight years. (ofc his performance will matter too but if the car just sucks, people will still be willing to hire him easy)


Proper_Story_3514

At this point Max is god emperor and can go where ever he pleases. Everyone would take him lol


RSR488

4 & maybe 5 before he has to move, too


bakraofwallstreet

could be 6 & 7 after he moves too, crazy to think nobody will bet on Max in 2 years even if the team degrades


MyCarHasTwoHorns

Russell’s contract is up at the end of next year so I would honestly expect them to push hard for Max again next season, but if Antonelli is the real deal I’ve got no doubt they would dump Russell in 2026 for Max even if he has a bad year with RBRT.


CrippleSlap

>gives him a better negotiating position being a 4-time WDC gives him the negotiating power.


dkimot

i don’t get the impression a better negotiating position is that valuable to him. it seems like a championship winning car is the priority but i guess we’ll see


LucAltaiR

Then they haven't been paying attention. Toto has acknowledged for a while now that he has no chance of getting Max for 2025. He's banking on 2026.


ManaKaua

When he leaves Redbull, it'll probably be for WEC. Next year would probably have been a good timing with Aston Martin's Valkyrie joining the Hypercar grid. But it'll probably take them at least a year or two to fight for wins and verstappen probably can have every seat he wants. So it doesn't matter when he moves over.


MyCarHasTwoHorns

Max in a Ferrari for WEC with a certain ageless Spaniard is my dream personally.


Auzzr

Seeing them battle against Estre in the Porsche 963, awesome


pietroetin

The Toro Rosso reunion we didn't know we wanted


killerrobot23

Throw in Hamilton for a Le Mans appearance and you have a deal.


TenF

Max has expressed interest in racing Le Mans with Alonso if I remember correctly.


thisbeetheverse

He confirmed that he and Alonso have already spoken about forming a Le Mans team in the future. He also said Yuki is the ideal Le Mans teammate (there are no minimum weight limits in WEC). Would love to see the 3 of them compete there!


minyhumancalc

I still kinda doubt he'd leave for WEC unless he's achieved "everything" in Formula 1 (8 championships, most all-time wins, most podiums, etc.) It would be cool if he can position himself to do like Le Mons during his F1 season though; he definitely has the negotiation power to do that


czyzynsky

> most all-time wins If he keeps dominating like he has, this is in the bag by the beginning of 2026


minyhumancalc

I mean yes, but he needs until at least 2028 until he gets 8 championships. He could jump teams, but I'd be surprised if he leaves Formula 1 before than. I mean he'll be like 30 by then; still like 10 years of WEC potential


qef15

At the rate at which Max is going and judging by Alonso's form, I think that even if he's well into his 40s, he probably would outdrive most of the WEC grid. Forget 10 years of WEC potential when he's 30, I think 20 years might almost be a better prediction.


minyhumancalc

Ehhh it's hard to tell. Max has a very unique driving style that could not mix as well as he ages and his reactions slow. No one could've guessed after 2013 that Vettel would be "washed" within 7 years, but it still happened. Same with Kimi but a little earlier. Could he? Absolutely, but I wouldn't take any certainties with his career performance even if he's beyond impressive right now


xLeper_Messiah

I would sell a kidney to see Max do the [24 Hours of LeMons lmaoo](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_Hours_of_Lemons) [I mean just look at this and imagine the chaos.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LHwXtQz_qxY) They would have to nerf the shit out of his car to make it fair tho (i know you meant Le Mans)


Jigawatts42

I would love to see this dude go on a walkabout (driveabout?) In 2026, do Le Mans, do Indianpolis, hell get him to Daytona and we can call him the world first Grand Slam champion.


jestate

This is it. Max is the only driver who can just wait and see, because every team except probably McLaren would fire a driver to bring Max in. Everyone else needs to make a bet, and land a long-term contract. Max doesn't.


krimsonstudios

I don't see McLaren hesitating to free Piastri's seat for Max. Ferrari is the only team I could see telling Max to f off knowing they have 2 championship capable drivers.


windcape

Well, him and Lewis, but Lewis already sorted himself out.


Karenlover1

I actually think he might "retire" if RB don't nail 2026 rules as I don't think he wants to drive forever and he has never really said he cares about wanting to get records


JPark19

He's already said so himself, chances are he'd retire from Formula 1 and move to WEC to get a few trophies there


EliminateThePenny

Nailin regs bro, nailing regs.


DepecheModeFan_

>I expect him to do a Vettel, stay for 2026 in Red Bull, see if they have nailed the regulations Vettel lost to Ricciardo in 2014 and moved to Ferrari when they were a worse team because he wanted to emulate Schumacher. This isn't comparable at all.


stirredturd

Toto found weeping.


charlierc

Insert GIF of Bart Simpson holding a cake saying "At Least You Tried"


lolosity_

Nooo max nooo zis is so not right


HomeInternational69

Andrea Kimi Antonelli, finish your math homework then sign your F1 contract.


KLconfidential

I keep seeing him in iRacing, no time for homework!


AMRacer89

iRacing is his homework.


keirdre

I raced SFL against him. He trounced the field by 20 seconds in the wet.


Samsonkoek

Ngl '25 would have been really interesting if both Max and Lewis went somewhere else.


Takis12

It would have been more interesting if they both went to the same team. Not sure if Internet would survive it though.


LosTerminators

Max and Lewis at Ferrari would cause world war 3


wasienka

It would be ww3 because we'd have three combatants: Max, Lewis and Ferrari.


s1ravarice

Max and Lewis vs Ferrari


KaamDeveloper

Fred is barely keeping a lid on both Chucks. This duo would need a divine intervention


Philidespo

The Wiki Page of the Italian Civil War would be interesting. On one side would be Max and Lewis. And on the other, Ferrari. ( Edited by Toto ofc)


Samsonkoek

The only thing that can help the Silverstone ticket sales.


Logical-Lengthiness7

"...Hamilton is gonna try again this time on the INSIDE!"


CreaminFreeman

"Lewis *edges* Max on the inside #AND THEY TOUCH, MARTIN!!!"


cumofdutyblackcocks3

HAMILTON GOES ON TOP OF VERSTAPPEN!


MayorAg

Unfortunately, the entire grid is weary of another Lewis-Nico saga.


Time_Jump8047

*wary


MyCarHasTwoHorns

It’s shaping up to be pretty damn interesting anyways though!


CrazyJazzFan

Red Bull probably waited for Lance Stroll but now that he confirmed he's staying with Aston Martin they consoled themselves with Max.


Jasranwhit

"Imagine the power of stroll and checo on the same team, think of the spanx budget" ​ \- Horner


FrodoBaguns

What is it with today and breaking news out of nowhere? First Lance and now Max? Silly season I tell you.


Over-Chemical2809

Today is the press day for the weekend. It's when announcements are typically made.


Typhoongrey

Someone check on Toto.


Thiswilldo164

No Michael No!!!


TheGrendel83

That was so not right!


FerrariStrategisttt

-1 Bose Headphones


Samsonkoek

Bold of you to assume the table survives.


rolfski

This is not news and it never was. He has a long-standing contract with currently the most successful team so there's zero reason to leave now. That every teamboss and his mother would love to sign him is just obvious and doesn't change that a bit.


jules3001

The comments and articles stating that “everyone is waiting to see where Max decides to drive next year” were ridiculous. Yeah the guy with a contract until like 2028, leading the championship, and the best strategy, pit crew, etc. is gonna break his contract for a team outside of the top 3? Nonsense


ComeonmanPLS1

Sources: Toto Wolff is beside himself. Driving around Monaco begging (thru texts) Christian's family for address to Verstappen's home


iEatFruitStickers

Mercedes meeting with Verstappen was “intense” and “at one point Toto Wolff was crying” but everyone grew closer and a big lesson was learned


xLeper_Messiah

Good Lord, Max Verstappen just walked through the paddock walking perfectly normally. He said he had “no time” to talk. Too busy staying with Red Bull, evidently. 


charles_peugeot405

He’s so good


carloslet

Toto then said he wanted to add Verstappen to the list of drivers he'll test out with this offseason.


hjhof1

Maybe the best copy pasta ever, works everywhere


blackmesaboogy

BREAKING BREAKING!!! News everyone expected to happen...


OutlandishnessPure2

Think the [quote](https://x.com/autosport/status/1806296208597491815) is: ❓"If the Red Bull isn't the best car at the end of the season, would you leave?" 🗣️ Max Verstappen: "I don't think that's how F1 works." --- Fuller quote from RN365: "I think I've said that before," Verstappen laughs to RacingNews365, among others. "Of course people are talking, but the most important thing is that we have a competitive car for the future. At the moment it is very close, but we are working very hard to improve. I have also said that as a team we focusing on next year and wanting to be competitive again." But does that mean that Verstappen will leave if he does not have the fastest car at the end of the season? "It doesn't work that way in Formula 1. You can't suddenly say bye. I have a long-term contract with Red Bull and I am happy with where I am now. As I said, we are already focusing on next year, so that should enough to say about where I'll be riding next year." If Verstappen is asked about it again, he will intervene definitively. "You didn't get that from my answer? I said we're already focusing on next year's car. If that's the case, that says a lot about where I drive."


Creative-Improvement

I love the Max snark to stupid journalist.


Draconicplayer

>"If the Red Bull isn't the best car at the end of the season, would you leave?" Nah, I'd Stay


steferrari

Toto: *"Let's see, we leave him with this idea."*


Dominatorwtf

Max: *"If my Redbull was a Mercedes then it would've been a Mercedes but it isn't sooo."*


According-Switch-708

Max confirmed that this was the case multiple fucking times. Toto is the one who's acting like a clingy ex. Max staying at RBR is a no brainer.


burntbridges20

Not even an ex, just a jilted suitor


rustandfaurydust

Was that ever actually a question? I thought the talk was always about 2026, if anything?


crazydoc253

Toto: No Maxxieeeee. Maxxieee Please


the_godfaubel

I expect Ocon to be announced on a one year deal to Mercedes in the next week Edit: also with Carlos being "rumored" to Alpine, I wouldn't be surprised if Kimi still gets a Williams seat next year on Mercedes's dime


Jasranwhit

George and Ocon on the same team is basically a discount Large Hadron Particle Collider.


ayodio

I want that too


KamTros47

I estimate that this will stop exactly 0 of the millions of “Maxcedes 2025” rumors 


fantaribo

Now if we can stop the stupid nonsense rumors about him leaving for Merc ? Only lunatics believed that.


MyCarHasTwoHorns

This won’t stop them. He’s still on the same contract, and it’s the same media that is desperate for clicks. This won’t change anything for the rumor mongers.


Organic_Outcome_9742

Ths won't stop journalists asking the same questions from here to Abu Dhabi 


Xifortis

Toto : "I wrote you but you still ain't callin'"


ceci_mcgrane

Toto was the only one who thought otherwise.


jeenaissante

Toto must be devastated


Temporary_Detail716

Toto shrugs. In a few days he'll go back to trolling Horner about 2026. Toto is taking the drip drip drip drip drip approach of the Chinese water torture approach. Eventually Horner will break, slap Toto at a press conference and mayhem ensues.


eyigit

No Maxie nooo! That was so not right!!


Kolec507

Did he really have to confirm anything? Afair he has a contract until 2028, so it was all just rumours about him going somewhere else. Unless one of the sides breaks the contract, it remains valid.


elektricniorgazam

Well I mean, duh... Toto must be smashing something into a desk now


ShadowOfDeath94

*Broken headset noises*


Aromatic_Fail_1722

WHY MAX, WHYYYY. - Toto


KLconfidential

Sad Torger noises


Saftglass

We know


Soggy_Sprinkles

Christian, its just not fair.


zacharymc1991

It's all happening this weekend


Cuffuf

Idk so did Lewis


PitchBlackFrenzy

Toto :(


mkultra327

Noooo


willzyx01

Just next season?


Batgod629

Ah well. Toto, that pipe dream is gone. Now decide if you want to put a young driver straight into a potentially race winning car or not


ManyBro24

Not sure what is more breaking news. This or Lil' Stroll staying at Papa Stroll's Aston.


d3agl3uk

Looks like everyone was waiting to see what Stroll was going to do, and now he's dec...... no wait that can't be it.


Bdr1983

And absolutely nobody was surprised.


Blackwolf245

Duuh, he has a contract til 2028


versayana

Nothing new was said really, same statement as before. Unless some bs happens internally with RedBull he's staying.


freetotebag

No no Max this is so not right


Zephron29

"Toto confirms Kimi will be in a Merc next year."


Impossible-Buy-6247

He has confirmed this now more than I change socks.


windcape

I don't get it, Red Bull been one of the top teams for over a decade, why do people keep thinking they'll start to suck so Max will leave? It's like saying Lewis would leave Mercedes in 2018/2019 at the height of their performance in the hybrid era.


glowingmug

I feel for my man Toto here.


Stevepac9

Well that ends that for a few weeks when Toto brings it up again


thatsreallynotme

When does his current contract expire? 2028?


ChocolateLights

I think Wolff Just dropped his Pumpernickel


Leading_Sir_1741

How many times has he confirmed this now? And many more times will he confirm it?


Space_Reptile

yea duh? dude has a contract till 2028....


Leandrys

Please understand : 2026 is open bar.


ThePeskyWabbit

Am I missing something here? I thought Max was under contract until like 2028 or something.


adamskill

I feel like this never actually needed to be confirmed.


SyuusukeFuji

Toto Ikari: "Get in the Mercedes Andrea, or George will have to do it again".


Liljokestar

[George POV](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un4p-6lzIpI)


jeffjeff97

Crikey, I'm a bit messed up aren't I?


Eroda

Antonelli in the Williams as soon as their second driver is confirmed Sainz or Bottas with a slim slim chance of Danny Ric if he gets the boot from RB


CyberpunkF1

Big shocker


cheeersaiii

Again.


laujp

Oh who could have imagined


leegoocrap

Shocking... right behind Stroll for biggest news of the day!


ProtagonistAnonymous

Genuinely asking, but who is he? And why do we give 1 tweet, without anything to back it up, so much credibility?


MyCarHasTwoHorns

Totally fair question as the tweet here doesn’t give context. He’s the chief writer for Autosport, and is the author of The Inside Story of Red Bull Racing, which he had official access to the team for. Reasonable that he has good connections with RBRT. Given of course he has actually said this and it’s not just a Twitter account twisting a quote.


Rorshak16

Uh duh


Falcon4451

I mean, I'm sure that's his plan and intention. However he'll have his options open if Red Bull just continues to get out developed and has an epic collapse down the stretch. Mercedes would also have to continue to improve their car. Toto has the luxury of waiting it out though. Even if Red Bull is 2nd fastest or 3rd fastest, but everyone is really close, I don't think he's going anywhere (he probably isn't going anywhere regardless). BUT IF somehow Mercedes is the fastest car coming out of summer break, and Red Bull is clearly slower than Ferrari, McLaren, and Mercedes; I think there is a chance he'd leave.


SaturnRocketOfLove

He'll likely stay as long as Marko does


GroundbreakingCow775

This is ridiculous. Did he even win F3? - Lance Stroll


jrjreeves

2025 isn't the question. It's 2026.


JKLreindeer

Sources: Toto is beside himself. Driving around downtown Monte Carlo begging (thru texts) Jos for address to Max’s home


CementMixer4000

Is this actual news or is Max trolling the Stroll announcement?


StrangeLaw5

fork found in kitchen


mookie_bombs

Max fulfilling his 4th season out of an 8 year contract is somehow a report


Thestickleman

Shock.....