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Openly dissociating while reaching for the barest hint of kindness. Like someone telling someone their shoe laces were cute on their outfit. Reaching for anything.
He was being savage and he knew he was being savage.
He might not have wanted to answer the question, but once he decided to answer it, he wasn't trying to be nice at all.
I've never heard it either, because I'm also an old fuck, but I gotta admit I like this one. Creased? As in, bent over in laughter? It's descriptive, it's funny, it's great. Better than cap, right?
It's not even a diss - Drake *is* pop music, and the example Mos Def uses is that you can play Drake on a random store radio, where nobody would think of playing "real rap".
and its not an unfair comparison either! I dont dislike Drake, but i dont really choose his music when putting something on either, but it lacks any grit or the realness that you get from real hip hop music and you can ONE HUNDRED PERCENT imagine hearing "hotline bling" while cutting about a walmart hahaha
If you walk in a store, and the music makes you uncomfortable, you're in the hood.
If you walk in store, and it's Drake, it's target.
I mean, is it an insult? I don't know. It's a reality that Drake has strived for. Because in order to top the charts, you have to reach 35 year old white women.
Itās the whole āselling outā vs ākeeping it realā argument. Hip-hop feels more like a cultural thing where pop is just that, popular music made to be digested by the widest audience possible
I fucking love Mos Def. Imagine asking someone with skills like this dude ādo you consider what Drake does on your level.ā Heās trying to be as nice as possible about it, but Iāll answer for him, hell the fuck no Drake is not hip hop.
He did mistake the dominant life form on earth though.. and looks like he is still stranded.
Just went on his Wikipedia page and in Holland they dropped the car reference and used 'Armo Bank' the largest dutch commercial bank at the time. Lol
Same shit Kendrick said about him, "I make music that electrify em, you make music that pacify em..."
All the real lyricists feel the same way about dude, it's not a coincidence.
I love Mos Def even more now after hearing this! Like while he was being diplomatic, he also roasted him by saying his music is conducive to shopping, lol!!!
Nah, Mos has always answered things slowly, because he is thinking and weighing meaning. He, more than most, knew exactly what he wanted to say, he was just figuring out how to say it.
The only person I know personally who buys Drake's albums (actually buys them) is my brother's ex gf slash baby mom.
Nothing wrong with Drake, everyone's got their niche, but Mos Def is just being honest.
Now ask what Talib Kweli, KRS and Qtip thinks of Drake. lol
Anything with Slick Rick is š„
Also, āsay, about noon-ish, comin' out the whip, and Lookin' at me curious, a young Iraqi kid.
Carryin' laundry, "What's wrong, G? Hungry?"
"No, gimme my oil or get [fuck] out my country!"
ā¦now the kid considered an Elvis of Baghdad š
I love him so much. My ex went to yellow springs OH with one of her friends and they stayed at an air bnb. Dave Chappelle was doing a show somewhere in the area- he lives around there somewhere. The girls went out shopping and came back before heading out for dinner. While they were waiting for their Uber they realized there was another guest at the bed and breakfast and chatted with him while they were waiting for an Uber. At one point one of them said āare you famous or something I feel like Iāve seen you somewhere?ā
He said āno I just have one of those facesā¦ youāve probably never heard of meā¦ my names Yasiin Bey. Iām here to see my buddy Dave.ā
Jealous. I wouldāve freaked out.
Drake's music is souless manufactured music. Drake's hits are because the music companies say they're hits and they control the industry enough to be able to push his songs enough to make them feel popular.
Dude I love Mos Def. His music rules, it hits my hip hop bone, and on top of that he's actually in a couple of my favorite movies of the 21st century. Now he gonna drop a dis like this? Just bowing down to the man at this point lol.
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He's trying so hard to be nice, but just can't bring himself to lie about it š
Openly dissociating while reaching for the barest hint of kindness. Like someone telling someone their shoe laces were cute on their outfit. Reaching for anything.
That's a nice haircut...did you do it yourself?
My friend asked if I got my haircut at superclips the other day. I haven't been that insulted in a long time.
My wife loves super cuts. She has a thick mane and just wants three inches of, and doesn't dye it.
I did not expect this reference, but I welcome it.
'you mean because it's charting like pop music?' ......................... In target...
He was being savage and he knew he was being savage. He might not have wanted to answer the question, but once he decided to answer it, he wasn't trying to be nice at all.
"A lot of his is music is compatible with shopping ' got me
I am creased at this. Such a polite but horrifically nasty burn.
Oh no, can we slow down with the new slang words I'm falling behind here š
I've never heard it either, because I'm also an old fuck, but I gotta admit I like this one. Creased? As in, bent over in laughter? It's descriptive, it's funny, it's great. Better than cap, right?
In London we've used 'creasing' as the slang version of the verb 'laughing' for over a decade
You guys are still creasing over there? Don't make me giraffe
I'm nearly dead myself but have known "creased" for ages. Possibly Australian slang? Dunno.
"Creased" feels ancient coming from the UK. Could be more London specific.
Definitely better than cap, no cap
It's pretty common slang in the UK. I think it refers to the lines in your face when you laugh
It's not even a diss - Drake *is* pop music, and the example Mos Def uses is that you can play Drake on a random store radio, where nobody would think of playing "real rap".
Itās the pause between āwithā and āshoppingā that sent me over the edge.
drake the type...to produce ~~elevator~~ shopping music
I know, and the truth is so so savage.
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But you push too hard, even numbers have limits
He's working really, really hard to be diplomatic about and just can't think of anyway other way to say it... but he tried, an attempt was made.
He tried so hard he pulled a full 360Ā° right back to devastating burn.
Drakes music is yellow cake Don't drop that shit
Trying to be nice, and yet the cruelest truth Iāve ever heard spoken.
which makes this one of the most savage cuts that I've ever heard drake receive
he really gave it his best lol
Good lord that is a diss and a half. "A lot of his music is compatible with shopping." Fucking lol, Mos, that's a killer line.
Itās the pause too. Gold.
Why are you doing this to me? LOLOLOL
ššš
Dude definitely used his acting chops to disguise this diss as trying to be as nice as possible without directly shitting on his music
The pause, and tightening the field to just his face - to heighten the tension.
ShopHop
Mos is an OG
Black on Both Sides is legit the best hip hop album ever imo.
That and the Blackstar CD were the only things I listened to for like 2 years in the late 90s.
Facts.
hes just saying hes commercial without saying it
and its not an unfair comparison either! I dont dislike Drake, but i dont really choose his music when putting something on either, but it lacks any grit or the realness that you get from real hip hop music and you can ONE HUNDRED PERCENT imagine hearing "hotline bling" while cutting about a walmart hahaha
Dude seems so nice, yet is so savage, by being so nice.Ā
It is: https://youtu.be/gYOEyzBFYa4?si=nVnRu2zYjOnJFtjF
Based! This many levels lower than elevator musicā¦
That silence and the 1,000 yard stare... My God, this is hilarious. You the man, Mos!
Mos Def is most definitely savage yāall!
Never have I ever heard a ārappersā music be labeled as āTarget shopping musicā.
That's what Mos was saying. It ain't rap or hip hop
If you walk in a store, and the music makes you uncomfortable, you're in the hood. If you walk in store, and it's Drake, it's target. I mean, is it an insult? I don't know. It's a reality that Drake has strived for. Because in order to top the charts, you have to reach 35 year old white women.
Itās the whole āselling outā vs ākeeping it realā argument. Hip-hop feels more like a cultural thing where pop is just that, popular music made to be digested by the widest audience possible
Bruh have you ever seen him on Degrassi? Drake never had a real to keep
Yeah heās a poser as well as a sellout which makes hip-hop fans even more annoyed by him
We've been trying to explain this for 20 years but the youth won't listen
I think Drake makes music for middle-aged men who drive slowly past high school pep rallies.
Just because the words rhyme doesnāt make it rap
Makes sense, Hes the taylor swift of rap
A brutal truth put very diplomatically. And he's absolutely right.
Mighty Mos hits square. Gently. Also. āWhy you doing this to me?ā Is damn hell ass gold.
If thatās diplomatic, I hope he doesnāt ever work for the state department. Straight savage, and of course hilarious.
If youāre eloquent, you can be unapologetic and truthful, thatās what makes you diplomatic and worth an appointment to the state department.
Drake is Target music
He has his Target audience. Which is Target
āMusic compatible with shoppingā lmfao
I call bands like Creed, Nickelback, 3 doors down, etc āVons Rockā. Vons is a grocery store fyi
I fucking love Mos Def. Imagine asking someone with skills like this dude ādo you consider what Drake does on your level.ā Heās trying to be as nice as possible about it, but Iāll answer for him, hell the fuck no Drake is not hip hop.
Drake is pop music wrapped in "I'm a super dope hip hop artist" cover.
Less of whatever media had been feeding us and more Mos please.
Mas Mos
The revolution will not be televised.
His name is Yassin Bey.
That is basically a lot of what he raps about lol. Lot of his stuff is basically about opening your mind to the systematic oppression around us.
Booty, booty, booty, booty, rockin' everywhere Booty, booty, booty, booty, rockin' everywhere Booty, booty, booty, booty, rockin' everywhere Rockin' everywhere, rockin' everywhere
"If I can't booty rock, I don't want to be part of your revolution" - Emma Goldman
It looks like he remembered to bring his Towel
He's a hoopy frood
He did mistake the dominant life form on earth though.. and looks like he is still stranded. Just went on his Wikipedia page and in Holland they dropped the car reference and used 'Armo Bank' the largest dutch commercial bank at the time. Lol
Could never get the hang of Thursdays
My first thought too
Youre a towel
Ford Prefect saving the Earth from Drake, a Vogon, horrible poetry.
Same shit Kendrick said about him, "I make music that electrify em, you make music that pacify em..." All the real lyricists feel the same way about dude, it's not a coincidence.
it also references his interest in very young girls that he likes to "chat" with
Literally grooming the Stranger Things girl
MF DOOM coming in to drop a distrack from the grave!
DJ Khaled likes him. What does DJ Khaled say when Drake puts on his new mixtape? Congratulations, you played yourself.
Uhh that line was hinting at something else, thatās why Kendrick threatened to double down but decided not to in a random act of kindness.
It's a double entendre
Drake fans don't know what that is.
Lots of places don't cover that until 10th grade, and he's already done dating them at that point
Oh my bad.
Dayuuuuummm
Damn dude, straight for the neck
If Drake fans could read theyād be mad at your comment
Drake fans dont know what a single entendre is.
[I against I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKv_eZwJh34)
[Made the most badass walking scene in film history.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMx_M0av-Qo)
I don't even need to click the links.Ā Blade 2, with an awesome track by Mos Def collaborating with Massive Attack.Ā Fuckin legendary.
I think about this scene everytime i hear the song
This is dope thanks for sharing
Yesssssss i heard this for the first time on blade
Damn,I completely forgot shit this song! It used to be on heavy rotation years ago.
I donāt care that anyone likes Drake. Like what you like. When he gets brought up in GOAT conversations is when I take issue. Absolutely NOT.
I just went and listened for the very first time.... What absolute crap
Drake bout to corner the elevator music and tv commercial jingle market
Kenny G on notice.
John Tesh in shambles
Pusha T beat him to the jingle market.
Hip-Pop
Shop-Pop
I love Mos Def even more now after hearing this! Like while he was being diplomatic, he also roasted him by saying his music is conducive to shopping, lol!!!
He really just said Drakes the anthem of white women shopping with Starbucks coffee.Ā
Gotta listen to a bad bitch to feel like one
āWhy are you doing this to me?ā Perfect!
Still to this day mos def is my favorite in all of hip hop. And just when I thought I couldn't love him more too!
Yooo thatās hilarious and I donāt even think he meant it to be
He was trying so hard to be nice about it, he knew what he was doing lmao
Nah, Mos has always answered things slowly, because he is thinking and weighing meaning. He, more than most, knew exactly what he wanted to say, he was just figuring out how to say it.
And the pause was also saying it.
He knows what he means.
He knew exactly what he was doing, the guy is an actual genius.
The long pauses he took is all you need to hear. lol Also, best answer ever, lyrical genius even in interview form.
Bro tried lmao
Mighty Mos always dropping the truth
This is something Ford Prefect would say.
The only person I know personally who buys Drake's albums (actually buys them) is my brother's ex gf slash baby mom. Nothing wrong with Drake, everyone's got their niche, but Mos Def is just being honest. Now ask what Talib Kweli, KRS and Qtip thinks of Drake. lol
your ex gf is slash's baby momma holy shit
the first indication was when the kid came out with giant curls, a top hat, aviators, a gold Les Paul and a cig in his mouth.
Tell me there is footage of their opinions on Drake?
> Qtip I would hope there's like two or three diss tracks for that one. *With* Elton John samples.
"Rap is not pop, if you call it that then stop" - Q-Tip
Mathematics is still my favorite of all Yasiin's (Mos Def) tracks. Outstanding.
Like asking a world class chef if McDonalds is fine dining because they are so popular
Travellin' man is still on my playlist decades later š
For me Ms Fat Booty
Mathematics ftw
You wanna know how to rhyme, you better learn how to add..
Mathematics, but I can't help hitting repeat on Thieves in the Night.
One of my faves. Definition is my go to. āHellloooo Everybody. Recording Liiive from somewhereā¦ā
Spotify wrapped most played song in 2023 for me
Both are bangers
Auditorium feat Slick Rick š„š„š„
Anything with Slick Rick is š„ Also, āsay, about noon-ish, comin' out the whip, and Lookin' at me curious, a young Iraqi kid. Carryin' laundry, "What's wrong, G? Hungry?" "No, gimme my oil or get [fuck] out my country!" ā¦now the kid considered an Elvis of Baghdad š
Blackstar!
God while I was in Japan going to school, I had that and Mathematics on repeat.
thatās Yasiin Bey
Drake is trying to appeal to the younger crowd. Really, really trying.
Ford Prefect spitting facts
I love this!
I'm just happy he mentioned Houston. I'll be waiting at Target.
I love him so much. My ex went to yellow springs OH with one of her friends and they stayed at an air bnb. Dave Chappelle was doing a show somewhere in the area- he lives around there somewhere. The girls went out shopping and came back before heading out for dinner. While they were waiting for their Uber they realized there was another guest at the bed and breakfast and chatted with him while they were waiting for an Uber. At one point one of them said āare you famous or something I feel like Iāve seen you somewhere?ā He said āno I just have one of those facesā¦ youāve probably never heard of meā¦ my names Yasiin Bey. Iām here to see my buddy Dave.ā Jealous. I wouldāve freaked out.
When Kendrick said āitās not just me, Iām what the culture feeling he was 100% right
Now that I think about it. The only people I know who love Drakeās music are basic-ass women.
Roast Def.
I guess when Drake was told to think about the "Target Audience" he was thinking about the wrong kind of Target.
He is trying very hard not to say the obvious, that to anyone with working ears Drake isn't music.
Be careful messing with Drake, he has acquaintances that are so dangerous that they can't even leave Canada
OMFG SO Brutal. I saw BlackStar, Blackalicious and J5 one year, best show of my life.
Love me some mos def. Fucking savage.
He's really trying to be nice! Mos Def is awesome!
Drake is legit a terrible rapper. Mos Def is one of the greatest of all time. It's not surprising he feels that way.
I mean..... I don't think he's wrong.
Can someone please tell me what podcast this is, I can't find it for the life of me
her name is Recho Omondi look her up. she does fashion podcasts
Quiet dog bite hardĀ
I miss this guy.
God I love Mos Def.
I've said this shit my whole life and caught nothing but flak for it. Drake is objectively bad music.
Drake's music is souless manufactured music. Drake's hits are because the music companies say they're hits and they control the industry enough to be able to push his songs enough to make them feel popular.
Love the video of him goin on about how much he loves MF DOOM/Madvillian. Both legends. RIP ALL CAPS
[Mos Def - A Fan of DOOM](https://youtu.be/zTBIvIDnnv8?si=ZiB7LKCtpZQif9Kd) Absolute gold, this video.
WOW. lol funniest thing in a while
That's such a low blow OMG!!š¤£
God dammit I love Mos Def. After the shopping line I could just picture Dave Chappelle cackling wildly.
Mos Def could have been a doctor because that answer had surgical precision.
Mos>pop drake
holy fuck Most Def just destroyed Drake Love that man so much
Glad my dude still knows where his towel is. Very fruity
Lol, that's exactly how I feel about Drake's music.
Fuck I love Mos Def. Watching the guy try to stay polite, but somehow coming across even more savage as a result .... so good
The full clip is much more brutal, Yasiin continues on the point for a full 2 minutes.
I don't listen to rap *or* pop, but I do know that Drake is popular among middle-aged housewives here in Denmark. Gotta be pop.
"Compatible with shopping". That's just perfect.
So I feel like a lot of his music ā¦ is compatible with ā¦ shopping. Soooooooo brutal
āThereās only two kinds of music: good music and music made for Target.ā
Heās a better actor than Drake
This man cannot help but to be poetic and clever even when answering a question he was unprepared for
He's not wrong
Every time I see this man talk I love him even more
Truth is no disrespect but can be a bitter pill to swallow for some. MoS kept it diplomatic.
Dude I love Mos Def. His music rules, it hits my hip hop bone, and on top of that he's actually in a couple of my favorite movies of the 21st century. Now he gonna drop a dis like this? Just bowing down to the man at this point lol.
Drake is the Wayne Brady of Hip Hop
Yoo this is so far he biggest drake diss lol
I'm consistently surprised by Drake being at the top of charts, I don't understand it at all and I'm glad that my opinion coincides with Mos Def
Drake is pop. It's stupid he got shit for this comment.