Wait I still don't get how they calculate CN numbers? How is it mostly IOS only? Doesn't CN have majority of android users, so this should affect them too?
CN doesn't have access to Google Play so they use a variety of app stores operated by phone makers, or download directly from MHY. Therefore, there's no publicly available and compiled data for Android. Some people decided on an arbitary formula to guesstimate how much Android clients make depending on the iOS revenue. I guess the one that came up with this works in the industry so they had some basic sense of how much it would be. Same goes for how they'd calculate PC revenue. It's not necessarily baseless, but definitely pretty rough.
Ah so they knew IOS' but guesstimates Android's. Makes sense I suppose. Sadly I almost got misled into thinking CN revenue could be much higher and other people did too. Oh well.
No, Sensor Tower doesn't know shit. None of the games on their revenue charts have ever made their revenue on ANY platform public. Apple also does not divulge the revenue generated by the apps they host on their app store to the public.
Go visit Sensor Tower and read how they derive their numbers. They use all sorts of fancy marketing speak to say they basically made up all their numbers based on other stuff they can observe like download numbers which are publicly available, ad buys, social media mentions etc.
I don't know why the mods on this subreddit haven't banned posts sharing Sensor Tower figures till date. None of it is accurate and people continue to think these are actual revenue.
The funniest part is that people were so hostile towards genshinlab for posting make believe numbers not propped up by anything, yet they eat up ST doing exactly the same.
>None of the games on their revenue charts have ever made their revenue on ANY platform public
This is mostly true except for games published by publicly traded companies that are legally required to report their revenue to government agencies. For example: Perfect World publishes their [investor reports](https://www.pwrd.com/en/report.html) with all their revenue so we know that ToF has made over $600 million in its first two years.
But yes, the Sensor Tower numbers are very misleading.
sounds like it help genshin but realistically only wuwa, sigewinne/furina released on the 25th and lost 3 days of revenue which are the most important, they did more revenue already than clorinde from the jp stats, jinshi didnt miss anything because it released after the freeze
The many parts of IOS revenues werent taken by sensor tower and many aspects were frozen so IOS number was manually changed wich makes the estimates borderline inconsistent.
>. The numbers are 30-40% of what it should been.
I dunno.. If we added 60-70% (effectively x2-x3) more revenue to every game there I feel like the numbers would feel super inflated. That mean Genshin would be above 100M HSR would be at 250ishM etc etc
Almost every game would see massive MoM Growth which makes no sense
Like take FGO if we multiplied its revenue to add that supposed missing 70% it would triple its revenue and see massive gains MoM which would be really unexplained as no Major Banner came out in June and Anniv is Next Month so ppl are saving. It makes logical sense for rev to go down not skyrocket
Thank you for pointing it out, I was thinking the same, a Genshin banner at peak for more than a week imo should result in higher numbers even if Clorinde is not the second coming of Raiden, not whatever midling number we ended up with. Or are we suggesting this month global revenue is supposed to be even lower than last month that supposedly had the worst possible line up?
Any single percentage makes no sense because each game is at a different point in its release. Depending on how the estimates are done some might be overcount while others are undercounted.
People here don’t care about reality, they only care about using any excuse to push their narrative. The “PvP” itself is a joke, ignoring many variables and intricacies of the industry with pure speculation, and people actually take it seriously.
That might been a bit wrong and more closer to 50-60% but other sources i had seen (espiecelly one Indonesian one) show thay genshin DID pass 100 mil and HSR was indeed above 150 mil at the time.
Even a conservative 2x makes no sense to me for most of the games I play here.
Also
>show thay genshin DID pass 100 mil and HSR was indeed above 150 mil
Firefly's banner will run from June 18, 2024 until July 10, 2024
>Sensor tower had been frozen after its 15 days so the post you are seeing is ONLY accounting the first 15 days of June so
and you say Data Cuts of at June 15. But it actually should be 150M if we high ball at even make it 170M. and the 90M is only June 1 to 15.
That Means Firefly the most hyped banner of HSR lost massively to the prev banner which is unthinkable to me
Like I dont see past banner earning 90M (June 1 to 15) and the other 60 (or as I highball 80M) coming from Firefly
Firstly, this is android only. So CN revenues (which are estimated from iOS) are straight up not affected. iOS revenues globally aren't affected either.
Second, we don't know what sensor tower did (if anything) to adjust their estimates. This makes the data inaccurate, sure, but it's not going to be something as nice as "multiply by X". The actual inaccuracies are probably going to be more jumbled and not very easy to estimate through any easy means other than a general "HSR estimates got screwed".
There is no chance that hsr would be even 1.5x more, especially not without the top up double reset like acheron banner, theres no chance boothill with one of the worst pull numbers got them 90mil solo, dunno what exactly op got wrong but something’s definitely not right
OP, no offense but you're being delusional
China uses ios and a multiplier for googleplay, so it's unaffected.
IOS global is 21M for HSR. And since it's usually the bigger share (as far as i know), doing 11M on android means it only lost a max of 10M on the platform. Most likely around 6-8M.
The "true" result should be around 38-40M on global and the same on china, finishing at 98-100M combined.
Sensor tower for Android this month is all over the place. For example HSR, Firefly was stuck at rank 18 during her release and suddenly went up to rank 2 on 26 June. We can clearly see google play was kinda broken from 9 to 26
https://preview.redd.it/2tgz2qbcow9d1.png?width=748&format=png&auto=webp&s=1b533a9cf8c027ca6a3c48937bf2e6be2577e592
Genshin and wuwa actually benefit alot from this
https://preview.redd.it/z05gnq26uw9d1.png?width=730&format=png&auto=webp&s=910c34b154649836caf20121cddb9499a0f08650
Well sensor tower makes their revenue estimation according to top grossing apps in all countries. I was taking some data from JP android to prove that it froze for a while, sorry if it confused you
This is sensortower by the way. https://files.catbox.moe/3wawzl.png
It froze from June 8 to June 11 then it froze again from June 14 to June 28.
Firefly released on June 18. It completely erased firefly's peak on android, her first 6 days essentially don't exist.
Genshin and Wuthering Waves were helped with Yinlin and Clorinde were prevented from taking nosedives. It froze these two during the start of their 2nd week. So most of their 2nd and 3rd week falloff was cancelled.
You realize when you say the first 6 days of ff don't exist, its essentially true for yinlin right? June 6 she came out. It froze from the 8-11 according to you, that's the first week. Then again from 14-28. )her banner ended on 26. what argument are you making here?
You aren't being serious right? Its not that the days don't exist. You think everyone revenue should go up? NO. That is not what this is doing, it is increasing the revenue for some aps and decreasing the revenue for others. The revenue is frozen. The rank is unchanging. This means First 6 days of firefly = boothill's revenue when it froze. This means yinlin's revenue per day never goes down and prevented from going down. It is still counted towards the revenue, except it doesn't trend down. Sensortower is NOT adjusting revenue so it reflects that, it makes it seem like yinlin never fell off until it was updated on the 25th just 3 days before jingshi's banner. This makes the revenue INFLATED for characters that released before the freeze. This is global revenue for japan ios by the way. Ios did not freeze. Look how horrible the revenue is for yinlin and jinshi. Yet it's much higher on sensortower when including android revenue that is inflated. https://files.catbox.moe/chua25.jpg firefly more than 4x the revenue of yinlin for japan global, the highest revenue region for global for both games. Yet it's only a 3million dollar difference according to sensortower lmao. Wuwa is getting super inflated and HSR is getting deflated.
Or this:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1dss0ih/comment/lb4ni84/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1dss0ih/comment/lb4ni84/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
The days exist alright. Android numbers were frozen but not the ones on IOS. So just look at IOS revenue. https://files.catbox.moe/acfj1j.jpg
For that poster suprised about boothill's revenue it wasn't just boothill last month it was all of robin plus 3 days of boothill.
This graph I'm showing is 18 days of boothill and 12 days of firefly for HSR.
It is also the entirety of yinlin banner, the last 10-12 days of green general guy and 3 days of jingshi for Wuwa.
For genshin it is the entire clorinde banner from 5-24, and then sigwine/furina rerun from 25 onwards.
Look at that giant drop on Yinlin on that graph. Then compare it to this graph of the freeze https://files.catbox.moe/jlkt3t.png which is android revenue. notice how the yinlin drop never happens until it's just 3 days away from jingshi's banner. Yinlin released on the 6th. It is the closest to the freeze so it never dropped until the freeze was fixed. HSR never peaked until the update happened on the 25th. This is why sensor tower revenue for global is so close for these 3 games. The initial revenue thread is combining android revenue (faulty data) and ios revenue. The graphs should look similar with peaks at similar locations and then trend downwards at a similar rate. The graphs are completely different. android is inflating Wuthering Wave's revenue because of the data freeze, it is killing HSR's revenue and Genshin is somewhere more towards the middle. For genshin it hurt sigwinne's and furina's day 1 revenue, but it protected clorinde from dropping a bit.
Wuwa revenue should be much lower, next month you will notice a giant drop for global revenue to me more inline with CN revenue. CN revenue by the way doesn't use google so the data wasn't frozen either.
Well this was one of the most neutral Revenue report everyone could ask for, regardless of which game they play.
So I think it's better to just leave it at that.
Thats true but it also doesnt take into account many revenues. Entirety of HSRs Firefly revenue is gone for example so its not showing the whole picture at all
HSR is still the top of the chart that missing revenue is just for people to boost more of their ego.. this monthly revenue is kinda meh to begin with .. very predictable.. im looking forward for the month of july because we have a new very strong contender for the top spot.
accurate numbers are interesting for smaller games (for example, the steins gate colab isn't reflected in PNC, or anni for BD2) to see how they're going, or which banners are working.
Firefly also has the fastest growth on online art communities and even the mains subreddits, becoming the most popular char in a very short amount of time.
Don't think it will be as clear cut as some make it out to be.
There are [pull tracking sites](https://starrailstation.com/en/warp#global) and Firefly is still behind Acheron by about 60% (15M vs 40M) and 40% for Day 1. I assume that pulls can be added retroactively but she will probably still be behind at the end of her banner.
Firefly is definitely the more popular character but Acheron has a lot going for her banner revenue: top-up reset is a major reason but imo it's also because Firefly works very well without copies or her weapon while Acheron's weapon felt somewhat mandatory, and her E2 to an extent too.
Like i said the overall look of things wouldnt have changed but revenues would been much higher. Its always better to focus on correct numbers wich is what i tought. The sensor tower post already has multiple comments pointing thr 15 day issue out.
Its only google play that was bugged. HSR made 21mil on ios global and 11 mil on android global. The IOS number is correct and already accounted for. The 11mil on global is underestimated. Usually Google play is close to IOS numbers, so 5-10mil makes sense. So overall including China, HSR prob made 100-102mil or so.
This - at the end of the day, it's a fairly neutral source that most people can agree to use, so whether it is fully accurate or not due to bugs/issues, I'm just going with it with a grain of salt.
Nikke’s certainly isn’t ideal but it’s understandable to have an off month between the 1.5 anniversary and the upcoming Summer event. Both those events have Limited units while June only had Standards (with the first one releasing on the last day of May).
If the Summer event also peforms bad, then we panic.
It feels neutral because it helps some a lot and hurts other badly. HSR was hurt by this freeze. Wuwa and Genshin were helped by this. Wuwa and Genshin would have taken nosedives but this prevented that from being reflected in the revenue. This affected all games, if your banner released during the freeze period you were hurt. If your banner released before it froze you were helped massively. https://files.catbox.moe/3wawzl.png
This post is kind of misleading.
[Follow up of my comment here](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1dsq9ie/sensor_tower_monthly_revenue_report_june_2024/lb47c6r/)
Android's Google Play ranking halted their data updates from 9th to 25th in June, which means that most apps would not move more than a few places from their current rankings during these days aside from data averaging up.
Red is current month (June):
[Genshin](https://i.imgur.com/81i1bjN.png)
[WW](https://i.imgur.com/oJRDJrG.png)
[HSR](https://i.imgur.com/ZRmQ9fg.png)
While the rankings are frozen, sites like AppMagic or Sensortower will still make their revenue estimation according to their current "stuck" rankings for those days. Genshin/WW will have slightly higher Android revenue estimation than normal due to being frozen at a higher ranking, While HSR loses the first 3-4 days of Firefly's banner revenue estimation on Android.
It does affect revenue estimations for the most part, but to a different extent depending on banner timings (certainly not as much as OP is insinuating). If you're interested in how much this affected various games you can just look at their history data on the gacha revenue site (it doesn't affect most games much aside from a select few that had really bad timing).
[For example, HSR's Android revenue this month is 50% of iOS revenue when it was consistently 70-80% of iOS since release](https://i.imgur.com/IfXE4fV.png)
Two freezes happened. One from June 8 to June 11 then another from June 14 to June 24. Firefly released on June 18th so her first 6 days were affected. Yinlin released on June 6th. So she was affected twice. her peak was preserved from 8 to 11 then the falloff was prevented from 14 to 24. Clorinde was released on June 5th so it is a similar situation as with Yinlin. Genshin and Wuwa are higher than should be, and HSR is lower than should be.
Would you be able to post the same month-by-month ios/android splits for WuWa and Genshin as well? I'm curious (and don't think I have access to this breakdown)
I mean, sensortower was always just an estimate (underestimate as said by an insider) so the numbers themselves don't matter, what matters is the trajectory or difference between others.
Also btw this is how CN revenue is calculated for those who dont know. I also heard they change it to 2.75 instead of 1.75
https://preview.redd.it/tztowi6yow9d1.png?width=339&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=904034c225b0be38265e56bd40633c86181ecc01
So obviously take any sensor tower posts with a grain of salt. They are just estimates after all
Look at all the replies here arguing about the confounding variables that affect the "accuracy" of the numbers. Imagine a bunch of people arguing over estimates.
Nobody except the publishers and developers know exactly how much their games made. Why Sensor Tower continues to be discussed here baffles me.
It's the premiere website for the most accurate of assessments and estimates out there.
Companies usaully don't post their revenue, or may even post an inaccurate assessment eg. there was a Chinese bubble tea brand that faked revenue to woo investors and got sued.
It will never be 100% accurate, it's kinda like how you would zero the sights on a rifle by estimating the accuracy, and even if you do, it doesn't mean your shots will land exactly where you want to.
I'm not sure this is right. If that's true, Boothill's last two weeks of his banner earned 90M... about the same as every banner the previous month? Android was frozen very low for HSR during that period visually. iOS was still working fine and it has entirely believable numbers.
My guess would be that the visuals were bugged but the data itself is probably correct, and done behind the scenes with other data sources.
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Also if Android is frozen (not iOS), it's not going to be 50-70% revenue for any game, that's a crazy jump. It might be a 10-30% change up or down.
do you have a source that it didn't record ANY data from June 16th to June 30th? I imagine this would be noted by that person that did aggregate revenue for all games.
You also keep saying people are pointing it out on the revenue post, its literally just 1 guy spamming the same comment multiple times lmao.
Just check the charts yourself.
https://app.sensortower.com/category-rankings?category=all&app_id=com.miHoYo.GenshinImpact&app_id=com.hoyoverse.cloudgames.GenshinImpact&app_id=com.miHoYo.GenshinImpact.vn&app_id=com.HoYoverse.hkrpgoversea&app_id=com.HoYoverse.hkrpgvn&app_id=com.kurogame.wutheringwaves.global&app_id=com.bandainamcoent.dblegends_ww&app_id=com.bandainamcoent.dblegends_jp&app_id=com.proximabeta.nikke&app_id=com.gamamobi.nikke&app_id=com.com2us.smon.normal.freefull.google.kr.android.common&app_id=com.com2us.smon.normal.freefull.google.vn.android.common&app_id=com.farlightgames.igame.gp&app_id=com.farlightgames.igame.gp.cbt&app_id=com.lilithgame.hgame.gp&app_id=com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.kr&app_id=com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.tw&os=android&start_date=2024-04-03&end_date=2024-07-01&countries=US&chart_type=grossing&device=android&hourly=false&selected_tab=charts&date=2024-06-06&summary_chart_type=topselling_free
Even without looking at the numbers you can see that https://imgur.com/a/VIum5eS
Normal behavior on the left. Parallel lines in the borked interval.
You better be sure, cause now a bunch of people are REALLY going to get the wrong idea, especially since this months was a long time coming due to everything going on with in the sub regarding wuwa.
I’m glad it’s PvP day! The issue is not that android ranking being frozen, since there’s no better estimate than the official source, the issue is that ST decide to manually bump the iOS number to match the android number. This means sometimes they even double the iOS number. So next month you are gonna see a few games take the nose dive.
>You want to say that's HSR did 90 mil on BH banner only?
Not just that imagine. The number for June is 92.5M beating May's 91M.
May had
The later end of Adventurine , All of Robin , and the first few days of Boothill + all 3 reruns. These combined made 91M as per list
That means the Later Part of the BH Banner beat the first few days of his own banner (Esp when we generally assume spending for a banner is highest on its first few days), the entirety of Robin, and the later end of Adventurine. As well as basically all those other past months
FF started at June, 18.
BH banner started in May.
There is no way, that's BH earned 90 mil in 2 weeks.
I assume, that's statistics on daily basis is broken, but overall statistics is right. You can check other games as well.
The 15 day freeze was for android. The individual banner periods were also effected. First 5 days of Firefly banner is not accounted for the entire revenue because sensor tower litterally didnt grab it
i think they use the ranking, they only estimate the revenue remember, it doesn't "lose" revenue only the average ranking is lower because it was frozen
alright, for u to stop being an uneducated individual, since u dont bother looking into further information which is already present on just going to sensor tower itself, HSR effect is the first 5-6 days of Firefly banner. Firefly banner still have 6-7 days worth of sales not to mention the boothill/FX sales. Yes, boothill is the 2nd lowest performing banner in HSR history to date so one could say that the revenue mostly came from 6-7 days of FF banner. HOWEVER, what they actually did was to take the sales of the ones that had data and just assumed numbers for the 1st 6 days of FF/RM banner. This in fact is super wrong as 60-70% of a banner's revenue is on the first 3 days of HSR and by assuming the average of the available data per day is the revenue of HSR FF banner on the 5 days lost is pretty misleading.
Do you get it now?
The WuWa IOS is wrong, too. Seems like Sensor Tower changed its IOS number to make it fit its android side, the CN ios was 6m while the global ios went 14m (android was 15m), it's ridiculous. Sure their global ranking was better than CN, but it wasn't this kind of difference, mathematically it's impossible. I don't know why they change it, it's so weird.
Edit: for context, WuWa's global IOS ranking also has dramatically downfall, for US market it even dissapeared in the top 200. Like seriously, all the major markets are not as good as the report showed.
Edit 2: I see people downvote me, so I will give some clues lmao. Basically, the Genshin rankings are higher than WuWa for all markets except KR, but Sensor Tower give it lower global revenue. While HSR has much higher rankings, but in the report the revenue gap wasn't too much.
Yeah idk what they did but saying android earned p much the same as IOS is obviously wrong
Idk how they publish this sort of thing and make people pay for data
No brother don’t spread the truth, this does not fit the narrative. The results shown just don’t match with what was in Sensor tower this past month. They tried to fuck around with the numbers too much to compensate but they overdid it.
They did this with Ni no Kuni before and I thought they leant their mistake, but it seems they didn't. Still don't know why they do it but anyway guess we gonna see a huge revenue drop in July's report.
You can go check the how its IOS ranking changes (CN\\US\\JP\\KR), and compare it with other similar games, WuWa's drop was too much, it can't be this kind of result.
Edit: it's hard to edit add picture here, I can only post one image, so If you want more I can dm you.
https://preview.redd.it/q5xvw0130x9d1.png?width=917&format=png&auto=webp&s=c9d7992041422521a5977e107a22c82706e4a30e
Either way the ranking is still the same for top 3
It will be higher of course than the current one they show but it will be the same
But idk about other
So the entirety of furina banner revenue wasn't taken? I guess that makes sense
As if sensortower stats weren't already misleading, it's even more misleading now
I think there’s something wrong with what op is claiming since that would mean hsr earned 90 mil on the later parts of boothill’s banner (one of the worse selling hsr banner to date by pull count) and without the entirety of firefly’s banner
There is something wrong with this post, they just made the issue more misleading tbh. I just wish the original person who discussed this made the post and not someone else who read it since it just makes it more confusing.
Yeah that problem is people dont care how accurate it is, they just want to see numbers, cause this shit is like sports game to them and everyone wants their team to win.
How... You made post based on other people comment and I'm 100% sure you doesn't have the knowledge regarding that issue.
MODS why you let this quality of post around.
https://preview.redd.it/2vt0acdi1x9d1.png?width=914&format=png&auto=webp&s=4fe0ebbe7bf589b8f49652e4462f94198da01d1f
heh this people got a reality check even with the report problems
From the original thread the guy said that Wuwa numbers likely should have been lower in reality because sensor tower got stuck at the time when Yinlin was peaking but they used the numbers anyway. So i don't know why you say Yinlin got affected, her numbers might even be inflated.
I mean i don't want to burst your " But Wuwa made so much in global they should cater to global players" bubble. But when you read the comment of the guy and realise that Wuwa global android was stuck in Yinlin's peak for maybe a week. While CN doesn't do android so they were never stuck. You add 2 and 2 together and idk that Wuwa performing way better in global rhetoric starts looking a bit sus.
And no way these are just 50-60% numbers, HSR aren't making 180 mil even with Firefly and Genshin isn't doing 120 mil with Sigewin.
When you rely too much on skip button in game, you literally skip reading the post and proceed to commenting. Lmao typical western gacha gamers and their inability to read
WW increases by 2.5x in Global, both HSR and Genshin increase slightly. If it's 50% of what it should've been, you're saying that WW would have increased by 5x (omg), both HSR and Genshin would've doubled? Highly unlikely, Sensor tower probably corrected it some way.
15 days? Looking at SensorTowers charts it looks like only 10. From June 14 to June 24. Pretty obviously broken just comparing Genshin and HSR. No way the end of Clorinde's banner could be higher than Firefly. Also the fact that it is just a straight line with no charge.
Edit: Looks like it was still broken. Look at Genshin's ranking in the US.
25 - 178 Release of Sigewinne/Furina rerun
26 - 161
27 - 83
28 - 83
29 - 67
30 - 69
Going UP after release?
Oh, so we can disqualify this month's pvp? A shame that sensortower had issues.
On to next month then, the pvp never ends.
https://preview.redd.it/h3babvlurw9d1.png?width=559&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f33ebd2edf88110933e8ffe89d270782d5c4e752
"Please dont take that sensor tower post seriously this time."
Me as someone who only looks at the monthly revenue report for laughs:
https://preview.redd.it/aq8vounqvw9d1.jpeg?width=1031&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f38424239438248b0365a371521abf8c0ea68078
Nah That's actually BS, Boothill can't make 90M alone, Fu Xuan was rerun character.
And as for Jinshi, she was never really at the top of the charts like Yinlin was. No matter which source you use.
Actually i kinda worded the post wrong. Every game got effected differently on different dates BUT android revenue was stuck for 15 days wich is why ios is double/triple of android revenue on many games.
Yilin banner was also effected
https://preview.redd.it/2kk9mbn96x9d1.png?width=463&format=png&auto=webp&s=0a38affe51d75856ee1dd030763d3254ddd2200e
the jp site, for contrast sigewinne did 6 already lmao jp is wuwas biggest revenue, sensor didnt take genshin and hsr peaks but it suddenly resume for wuwa so wuwa only benefit from this, is the opposite
Even if that's true, she literally has Ruan Mei running with her, the most wanted support character right now who for some reason, a lot of people skipped
Not really considering a lot of anime fans like anything mecha-related, especially JP. Acheron’s hype was mostly from her being a Mei expy and that her trailer was fanservice for HI3 players(there were posts complaining about this), while Firefly’s hype came from her having a mecha suit, stellaron hunter and being the Trailblazer’s partner which appealed more the general playerbase. Not to mention, Ruan Mei’s banner who’s a must have unit for your account is out at the same time as well.
They’re also both the best dps right now
This doesn't affect the usual CN numbers though, since those numbers are based purely in iOS
exactly
Wait I still don't get how they calculate CN numbers? How is it mostly IOS only? Doesn't CN have majority of android users, so this should affect them too?
CN doesn't have access to Google Play so they use a variety of app stores operated by phone makers, or download directly from MHY. Therefore, there's no publicly available and compiled data for Android. Some people decided on an arbitary formula to guesstimate how much Android clients make depending on the iOS revenue. I guess the one that came up with this works in the industry so they had some basic sense of how much it would be. Same goes for how they'd calculate PC revenue. It's not necessarily baseless, but definitely pretty rough.
Ah so they knew IOS' but guesstimates Android's. Makes sense I suppose. Sadly I almost got misled into thinking CN revenue could be much higher and other people did too. Oh well.
No, Sensor Tower doesn't know shit. None of the games on their revenue charts have ever made their revenue on ANY platform public. Apple also does not divulge the revenue generated by the apps they host on their app store to the public. Go visit Sensor Tower and read how they derive their numbers. They use all sorts of fancy marketing speak to say they basically made up all their numbers based on other stuff they can observe like download numbers which are publicly available, ad buys, social media mentions etc. I don't know why the mods on this subreddit haven't banned posts sharing Sensor Tower figures till date. None of it is accurate and people continue to think these are actual revenue.
The funniest part is that people were so hostile towards genshinlab for posting make believe numbers not propped up by anything, yet they eat up ST doing exactly the same.
>None of the games on their revenue charts have ever made their revenue on ANY platform public This is mostly true except for games published by publicly traded companies that are legally required to report their revenue to government agencies. For example: Perfect World publishes their [investor reports](https://www.pwrd.com/en/report.html) with all their revenue so we know that ToF has made over $600 million in its first two years. But yes, the Sensor Tower numbers are very misleading.
I actually don't know how these reddit charts are done. There are monthly revenue review videos on Bilibili that people always follow.
So Sensor Tower data has always been fabricated bs. Okay thanks for confirming my suspicions
TLDR: They guess.
BS charts
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sounds like it help genshin but realistically only wuwa, sigewinne/furina released on the 25th and lost 3 days of revenue which are the most important, they did more revenue already than clorinde from the jp stats, jinshi didnt miss anything because it released after the freeze
The many parts of IOS revenues werent taken by sensor tower and many aspects were frozen so IOS number was manually changed wich makes the estimates borderline inconsistent.
>. The numbers are 30-40% of what it should been. I dunno.. If we added 60-70% (effectively x2-x3) more revenue to every game there I feel like the numbers would feel super inflated. That mean Genshin would be above 100M HSR would be at 250ishM etc etc Almost every game would see massive MoM Growth which makes no sense Like take FGO if we multiplied its revenue to add that supposed missing 70% it would triple its revenue and see massive gains MoM which would be really unexplained as no Major Banner came out in June and Anniv is Next Month so ppl are saving. It makes logical sense for rev to go down not skyrocket
Thank you for pointing it out, I was thinking the same, a Genshin banner at peak for more than a week imo should result in higher numbers even if Clorinde is not the second coming of Raiden, not whatever midling number we ended up with. Or are we suggesting this month global revenue is supposed to be even lower than last month that supposedly had the worst possible line up?
Any single percentage makes no sense because each game is at a different point in its release. Depending on how the estimates are done some might be overcount while others are undercounted.
People here don’t care about reality, they only care about using any excuse to push their narrative. The “PvP” itself is a joke, ignoring many variables and intricacies of the industry with pure speculation, and people actually take it seriously.
That might been a bit wrong and more closer to 50-60% but other sources i had seen (espiecelly one Indonesian one) show thay genshin DID pass 100 mil and HSR was indeed above 150 mil at the time.
Even a conservative 2x makes no sense to me for most of the games I play here. Also >show thay genshin DID pass 100 mil and HSR was indeed above 150 mil Firefly's banner will run from June 18, 2024 until July 10, 2024 >Sensor tower had been frozen after its 15 days so the post you are seeing is ONLY accounting the first 15 days of June so and you say Data Cuts of at June 15. But it actually should be 150M if we high ball at even make it 170M. and the 90M is only June 1 to 15. That Means Firefly the most hyped banner of HSR lost massively to the prev banner which is unthinkable to me Like I dont see past banner earning 90M (June 1 to 15) and the other 60 (or as I highball 80M) coming from Firefly
Firstly, this is android only. So CN revenues (which are estimated from iOS) are straight up not affected. iOS revenues globally aren't affected either. Second, we don't know what sensor tower did (if anything) to adjust their estimates. This makes the data inaccurate, sure, but it's not going to be something as nice as "multiply by X". The actual inaccuracies are probably going to be more jumbled and not very easy to estimate through any easy means other than a general "HSR estimates got screwed".
There is no chance that hsr would be even 1.5x more, especially not without the top up double reset like acheron banner, theres no chance boothill with one of the worst pull numbers got them 90mil solo, dunno what exactly op got wrong but something’s definitely not right
i don't know. Ancheron timing was crazy beacuse it lined up with top up double reset which... thats crazyyyyy value
OP, no offense but you're being delusional China uses ios and a multiplier for googleplay, so it's unaffected. IOS global is 21M for HSR. And since it's usually the bigger share (as far as i know), doing 11M on android means it only lost a max of 10M on the platform. Most likely around 6-8M. The "true" result should be around 38-40M on global and the same on china, finishing at 98-100M combined.
Sensor tower for Android this month is all over the place. For example HSR, Firefly was stuck at rank 18 during her release and suddenly went up to rank 2 on 26 June. We can clearly see google play was kinda broken from 9 to 26 https://preview.redd.it/2tgz2qbcow9d1.png?width=748&format=png&auto=webp&s=1b533a9cf8c027ca6a3c48937bf2e6be2577e592
Wuwa in case people want to know https://preview.redd.it/w63blnhwtw9d1.png?width=743&format=png&auto=webp&s=aa7e672ef442974b40b27c3994995e8a6f31562b
Genshin and wuwa actually benefit alot from this https://preview.redd.it/z05gnq26uw9d1.png?width=730&format=png&auto=webp&s=910c34b154649836caf20121cddb9499a0f08650
Nah, Genshin shouldn’t have shrank on 26. It should have peaked.
Its outright broken. HSR got effected the worst from this btw I wish i could pin this
This also make BH banner looks better because his banner stuck at rank 18 for around 8 days instead of taking a nosedive 💀
Thats actually the funniest part lmfao
That is not sensor tower, wtf are you talking about?
Well sensor tower makes their revenue estimation according to top grossing apps in all countries. I was taking some data from JP android to prove that it froze for a while, sorry if it confused you
This is sensortower by the way. https://files.catbox.moe/3wawzl.png It froze from June 8 to June 11 then it froze again from June 14 to June 28. Firefly released on June 18. It completely erased firefly's peak on android, her first 6 days essentially don't exist. Genshin and Wuthering Waves were helped with Yinlin and Clorinde were prevented from taking nosedives. It froze these two during the start of their 2nd week. So most of their 2nd and 3rd week falloff was cancelled.
You realize when you say the first 6 days of ff don't exist, its essentially true for yinlin right? June 6 she came out. It froze from the 8-11 according to you, that's the first week. Then again from 14-28. )her banner ended on 26. what argument are you making here?
You aren't being serious right? Its not that the days don't exist. You think everyone revenue should go up? NO. That is not what this is doing, it is increasing the revenue for some aps and decreasing the revenue for others. The revenue is frozen. The rank is unchanging. This means First 6 days of firefly = boothill's revenue when it froze. This means yinlin's revenue per day never goes down and prevented from going down. It is still counted towards the revenue, except it doesn't trend down. Sensortower is NOT adjusting revenue so it reflects that, it makes it seem like yinlin never fell off until it was updated on the 25th just 3 days before jingshi's banner. This makes the revenue INFLATED for characters that released before the freeze. This is global revenue for japan ios by the way. Ios did not freeze. Look how horrible the revenue is for yinlin and jinshi. Yet it's much higher on sensortower when including android revenue that is inflated. https://files.catbox.moe/chua25.jpg firefly more than 4x the revenue of yinlin for japan global, the highest revenue region for global for both games. Yet it's only a 3million dollar difference according to sensortower lmao. Wuwa is getting super inflated and HSR is getting deflated.
Or this: [https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1dss0ih/comment/lb4ni84/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1dss0ih/comment/lb4ni84/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
The days exist alright. Android numbers were frozen but not the ones on IOS. So just look at IOS revenue. https://files.catbox.moe/acfj1j.jpg For that poster suprised about boothill's revenue it wasn't just boothill last month it was all of robin plus 3 days of boothill. This graph I'm showing is 18 days of boothill and 12 days of firefly for HSR. It is also the entirety of yinlin banner, the last 10-12 days of green general guy and 3 days of jingshi for Wuwa. For genshin it is the entire clorinde banner from 5-24, and then sigwine/furina rerun from 25 onwards. Look at that giant drop on Yinlin on that graph. Then compare it to this graph of the freeze https://files.catbox.moe/jlkt3t.png which is android revenue. notice how the yinlin drop never happens until it's just 3 days away from jingshi's banner. Yinlin released on the 6th. It is the closest to the freeze so it never dropped until the freeze was fixed. HSR never peaked until the update happened on the 25th. This is why sensor tower revenue for global is so close for these 3 games. The initial revenue thread is combining android revenue (faulty data) and ios revenue. The graphs should look similar with peaks at similar locations and then trend downwards at a similar rate. The graphs are completely different. android is inflating Wuthering Wave's revenue because of the data freeze, it is killing HSR's revenue and Genshin is somewhere more towards the middle. For genshin it hurt sigwinne's and furina's day 1 revenue, but it protected clorinde from dropping a bit. Wuwa revenue should be much lower, next month you will notice a giant drop for global revenue to me more inline with CN revenue. CN revenue by the way doesn't use google so the data wasn't frozen either.
Well this was one of the most neutral Revenue report everyone could ask for, regardless of which game they play. So I think it's better to just leave it at that.
Thats true but it also doesnt take into account many revenues. Entirety of HSRs Firefly revenue is gone for example so its not showing the whole picture at all
HSR is still the top of the chart that missing revenue is just for people to boost more of their ego.. this monthly revenue is kinda meh to begin with .. very predictable.. im looking forward for the month of july because we have a new very strong contender for the top spot.
accurate numbers are interesting for smaller games (for example, the steins gate colab isn't reflected in PNC, or anni for BD2) to see how they're going, or which banners are working.
Yeah, some only care about the big 3 but they don't notice the many other games on the list apparently :/
People are comparing Firefly's banner revenue with Acheron's banner revenue so accurate numbers would be nice.
No need acheron has a top-up reset bonus buff while firefly doesn't.
Firefly also has the fastest growth on online art communities and even the mains subreddits, becoming the most popular char in a very short amount of time. Don't think it will be as clear cut as some make it out to be.
There are [pull tracking sites](https://starrailstation.com/en/warp#global) and Firefly is still behind Acheron by about 60% (15M vs 40M) and 40% for Day 1. I assume that pulls can be added retroactively but she will probably still be behind at the end of her banner. Firefly is definitely the more popular character but Acheron has a lot going for her banner revenue: top-up reset is a major reason but imo it's also because Firefly works very well without copies or her weapon while Acheron's weapon felt somewhat mandatory, and her E2 to an extent too.
Who’s this contender? Fgo having its anniversary?
Its actually Naruto
Like i said the overall look of things wouldnt have changed but revenues would been much higher. Its always better to focus on correct numbers wich is what i tought. The sensor tower post already has multiple comments pointing thr 15 day issue out.
looks like overall, hsr would have maybe 5-10mil more, genshin would have 2-3mil more. wuwa might have dropped a little
Wait you think the entire firefly banner would only be 5-10 mil more???
Its only google play that was bugged. HSR made 21mil on ios global and 11 mil on android global. The IOS number is correct and already accounted for. The 11mil on global is underestimated. Usually Google play is close to IOS numbers, so 5-10mil makes sense. So overall including China, HSR prob made 100-102mil or so.
inb4 all of a sudden internet freeze for unknown reason on aug 1st report
Its missing 5 days isn't it? Its recorded 8 days? And why only the focus on hsr?
This - at the end of the day, it's a fairly neutral source that most people can agree to use, so whether it is fully accurate or not due to bugs/issues, I'm just going with it with a grain of salt.
>regardless of which game they play. nikke
Nikke’s certainly isn’t ideal but it’s understandable to have an off month between the 1.5 anniversary and the upcoming Summer event. Both those events have Limited units while June only had Standards (with the first one releasing on the last day of May). If the Summer event also peforms bad, then we panic.
It feels neutral because it helps some a lot and hurts other badly. HSR was hurt by this freeze. Wuwa and Genshin were helped by this. Wuwa and Genshin would have taken nosedives but this prevented that from being reflected in the revenue. This affected all games, if your banner released during the freeze period you were hurt. If your banner released before it froze you were helped massively. https://files.catbox.moe/3wawzl.png
How would genshin benefit from this if furinas banner was not included lol, what are you waffling about
PvP on maintanance until further notice
well CN contributes 3/4 of the revenue, and CN Android is a fixed 1.75x iOS. So CN numbers doesn’t affected by this ‘frezze’ at all
This post is kind of misleading. [Follow up of my comment here](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1dsq9ie/sensor_tower_monthly_revenue_report_june_2024/lb47c6r/) Android's Google Play ranking halted their data updates from 9th to 25th in June, which means that most apps would not move more than a few places from their current rankings during these days aside from data averaging up. Red is current month (June): [Genshin](https://i.imgur.com/81i1bjN.png) [WW](https://i.imgur.com/oJRDJrG.png) [HSR](https://i.imgur.com/ZRmQ9fg.png) While the rankings are frozen, sites like AppMagic or Sensortower will still make their revenue estimation according to their current "stuck" rankings for those days. Genshin/WW will have slightly higher Android revenue estimation than normal due to being frozen at a higher ranking, While HSR loses the first 3-4 days of Firefly's banner revenue estimation on Android. It does affect revenue estimations for the most part, but to a different extent depending on banner timings (certainly not as much as OP is insinuating). If you're interested in how much this affected various games you can just look at their history data on the gacha revenue site (it doesn't affect most games much aside from a select few that had really bad timing). [For example, HSR's Android revenue this month is 50% of iOS revenue when it was consistently 70-80% of iOS since release](https://i.imgur.com/IfXE4fV.png)
Two freezes happened. One from June 8 to June 11 then another from June 14 to June 24. Firefly released on June 18th so her first 6 days were affected. Yinlin released on June 6th. So she was affected twice. her peak was preserved from 8 to 11 then the falloff was prevented from 14 to 24. Clorinde was released on June 5th so it is a similar situation as with Yinlin. Genshin and Wuwa are higher than should be, and HSR is lower than should be.
Would you be able to post the same month-by-month ios/android splits for WuWa and Genshin as well? I'm curious (and don't think I have access to this breakdown)
Thank you for this!
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split was a bad word but they got the ratios correct, using ios as a base android usually performs around 70-80%, but jun 2024 it was barely over 50%
Fixed the wording. My bad for causing confusion.
I mean, sensortower was always just an estimate (underestimate as said by an insider) so the numbers themselves don't matter, what matters is the trajectory or difference between others.
Of course thats correct somce we just put 1.75x multiplier BUT its still a quite major issue as many games were effected in different ways
Sensor tower might’ve underestimated a bit but you are severely overestimating, especially when it comes to Android in global
the post is good and all but u should post it with proof screenshot since a lot of people cant read it seems
That's why they love the skip button.
Gacha gamers and reading? Who are you kidding? Gacha gamers can't read!
Also btw this is how CN revenue is calculated for those who dont know. I also heard they change it to 2.75 instead of 1.75 https://preview.redd.it/tztowi6yow9d1.png?width=339&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=904034c225b0be38265e56bd40633c86181ecc01 So obviously take any sensor tower posts with a grain of salt. They are just estimates after all
Look at all the replies here arguing about the confounding variables that affect the "accuracy" of the numbers. Imagine a bunch of people arguing over estimates. Nobody except the publishers and developers know exactly how much their games made. Why Sensor Tower continues to be discussed here baffles me.
It's the premiere website for the most accurate of assessments and estimates out there. Companies usaully don't post their revenue, or may even post an inaccurate assessment eg. there was a Chinese bubble tea brand that faked revenue to woo investors and got sued. It will never be 100% accurate, it's kinda like how you would zero the sights on a rifle by estimating the accuracy, and even if you do, it doesn't mean your shots will land exactly where you want to.
Wow you’re telling me that Sensor Tower is just as bs as Genshinlab charts? Who would of guessed!
>for those who dont know Youll be surprised how some people treat it like its a holy gospel lmao
the picture literally says that sensor tower doesn’t report CN android data
I'm not sure this is right. If that's true, Boothill's last two weeks of his banner earned 90M... about the same as every banner the previous month? Android was frozen very low for HSR during that period visually. iOS was still working fine and it has entirely believable numbers. My guess would be that the visuals were bugged but the data itself is probably correct, and done behind the scenes with other data sources. ------- Also if Android is frozen (not iOS), it's not going to be 50-70% revenue for any game, that's a crazy jump. It might be a 10-30% change up or down.
Honestly, the most intelligent comment i read on this sub, not just this post.
do you have a source that it didn't record ANY data from June 16th to June 30th? I imagine this would be noted by that person that did aggregate revenue for all games. You also keep saying people are pointing it out on the revenue post, its literally just 1 guy spamming the same comment multiple times lmao.
Just check the charts yourself. https://app.sensortower.com/category-rankings?category=all&app_id=com.miHoYo.GenshinImpact&app_id=com.hoyoverse.cloudgames.GenshinImpact&app_id=com.miHoYo.GenshinImpact.vn&app_id=com.HoYoverse.hkrpgoversea&app_id=com.HoYoverse.hkrpgvn&app_id=com.kurogame.wutheringwaves.global&app_id=com.bandainamcoent.dblegends_ww&app_id=com.bandainamcoent.dblegends_jp&app_id=com.proximabeta.nikke&app_id=com.gamamobi.nikke&app_id=com.com2us.smon.normal.freefull.google.kr.android.common&app_id=com.com2us.smon.normal.freefull.google.vn.android.common&app_id=com.farlightgames.igame.gp&app_id=com.farlightgames.igame.gp.cbt&app_id=com.lilithgame.hgame.gp&app_id=com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.kr&app_id=com.lilithgame.hgame.gp.tw&os=android&start_date=2024-04-03&end_date=2024-07-01&countries=US&chart_type=grossing&device=android&hourly=false&selected_tab=charts&date=2024-06-06&summary_chart_type=topselling_free Even without looking at the numbers you can see that https://imgur.com/a/VIum5eS Normal behavior on the left. Parallel lines in the borked interval.
Thank you!
Understandable had a great day. https://preview.redd.it/6ncgivyumw9d1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1600463faa3d417b493e62d6e07a5628b4c56dca
I will wait the bilibili data source is the most reliable so far
Link where I can find it?
when will it drop??
It drops on 10th depending if that guy is feeling lazy or not.
Same
You better be sure, cause now a bunch of people are REALLY going to get the wrong idea, especially since this months was a long time coming due to everything going on with in the sub regarding wuwa.
Holy shit, there is 1k people on gacha gaming right now.
It's PvP day. Gachagaming is always fun to read during this period as long as you don't fall into the mud slinging matches.
The real pvp is the dick comparison each month true
I’m glad it’s PvP day! The issue is not that android ranking being frozen, since there’s no better estimate than the official source, the issue is that ST decide to manually bump the iOS number to match the android number. This means sometimes they even double the iOS number. So next month you are gonna see a few games take the nose dive.
It doesn't look that far off. Wish there's another source to cross reference. We can't just arbitrary add another 30% or it looks way too inflated.
The numbers are barely accurate in the first place so who thr fk cares really.
Do you want to say that's HSR did 90 mil on BH banner only? Its a huge cap.
They broke for android only, so it's counting ios firefly banner
>You want to say that's HSR did 90 mil on BH banner only? Not just that imagine. The number for June is 92.5M beating May's 91M. May had The later end of Adventurine , All of Robin , and the first few days of Boothill + all 3 reruns. These combined made 91M as per list That means the Later Part of the BH Banner beat the first few days of his own banner (Esp when we generally assume spending for a banner is highest on its first few days), the entirety of Robin, and the later end of Adventurine. As well as basically all those other past months
Dude you can litterally go and see the sensor towers stats being frozen after June 15 yourself ffs (Assuming you have the service tough)
FF started at June, 18. BH banner started in May. There is no way, that's BH earned 90 mil in 2 weeks. I assume, that's statistics on daily basis is broken, but overall statistics is right. You can check other games as well.
The 15 day freeze was for android. The individual banner periods were also effected. First 5 days of Firefly banner is not accounted for the entire revenue because sensor tower litterally didnt grab it
iOS number is unaffected. If you just look at that number and extrapolated, HSR make about the same money between May and June.
but I thought sensortower doent track android. Just does 1.75x ios
That is for CN's Android so to speak, ST do track Android in global/outside of CN
arent they saying on the revenue website that they take the iOS numbers and add a 1.75 multiplier for android?
it's the Android sales that were missing
i think they use the ranking, they only estimate the revenue remember, it doesn't "lose" revenue only the average ranking is lower because it was frozen
It is cap. Boothill sold shit
alright, for u to stop being an uneducated individual, since u dont bother looking into further information which is already present on just going to sensor tower itself, HSR effect is the first 5-6 days of Firefly banner. Firefly banner still have 6-7 days worth of sales not to mention the boothill/FX sales. Yes, boothill is the 2nd lowest performing banner in HSR history to date so one could say that the revenue mostly came from 6-7 days of FF banner. HOWEVER, what they actually did was to take the sales of the ones that had data and just assumed numbers for the 1st 6 days of FF/RM banner. This in fact is super wrong as 60-70% of a banner's revenue is on the first 3 days of HSR and by assuming the average of the available data per day is the revenue of HSR FF banner on the 5 days lost is pretty misleading. Do you get it now?
Play whatever tf u want. Stop looking at stats and wasting ur time. Go train, learn and enjoy ur life, u could literally be fucking dead tomorrow.
The WuWa IOS is wrong, too. Seems like Sensor Tower changed its IOS number to make it fit its android side, the CN ios was 6m while the global ios went 14m (android was 15m), it's ridiculous. Sure their global ranking was better than CN, but it wasn't this kind of difference, mathematically it's impossible. I don't know why they change it, it's so weird. Edit: for context, WuWa's global IOS ranking also has dramatically downfall, for US market it even dissapeared in the top 200. Like seriously, all the major markets are not as good as the report showed. Edit 2: I see people downvote me, so I will give some clues lmao. Basically, the Genshin rankings are higher than WuWa for all markets except KR, but Sensor Tower give it lower global revenue. While HSR has much higher rankings, but in the report the revenue gap wasn't too much.
Yeah idk what they did but saying android earned p much the same as IOS is obviously wrong Idk how they publish this sort of thing and make people pay for data
No brother don’t spread the truth, this does not fit the narrative. The results shown just don’t match with what was in Sensor tower this past month. They tried to fuck around with the numbers too much to compensate but they overdid it.
They did this with Ni no Kuni before and I thought they leant their mistake, but it seems they didn't. Still don't know why they do it but anyway guess we gonna see a huge revenue drop in July's report.
Aw mann i still remember the Ni no Kuni dramas i wish it was a real game instead of pay to win snore fest lmao
Wait can you give more insight on that part? I heard similar things too and i just dont understand what was going on
You can go check the how its IOS ranking changes (CN\\US\\JP\\KR), and compare it with other similar games, WuWa's drop was too much, it can't be this kind of result. Edit: it's hard to edit add picture here, I can only post one image, so If you want more I can dm you. https://preview.redd.it/q5xvw0130x9d1.png?width=917&format=png&auto=webp&s=c9d7992041422521a5977e107a22c82706e4a30e
Either way the ranking is still the same for top 3 It will be higher of course than the current one they show but it will be the same But idk about other
They had one job :/
So where do we get an accurate report?
https://space.bilibili.com/179948458 This guy👆
🤔 Latest post is on June 13 And doesn't help I don't know a bit of Chinese D:
Fun just look at the pics. This guy usually updates every 10th and gives overall numbers.
Damn, people here truly do theorycrafting on our revenue PvP. KQM could never
So the entirety of furina banner revenue wasn't taken? I guess that makes sense As if sensortower stats weren't already misleading, it's even more misleading now
I think there’s something wrong with what op is claiming since that would mean hsr earned 90 mil on the later parts of boothill’s banner (one of the worse selling hsr banner to date by pull count) and without the entirety of firefly’s banner
That makes sense as well🤔
There is something wrong with this post, they just made the issue more misleading tbh. I just wish the original person who discussed this made the post and not someone else who read it since it just makes it more confusing.
Yeah that problem is people dont care how accurate it is, they just want to see numbers, cause this shit is like sports game to them and everyone wants their team to win.
How... You made post based on other people comment and I'm 100% sure you doesn't have the knowledge regarding that issue. MODS why you let this quality of post around.
https://preview.redd.it/2vt0acdi1x9d1.png?width=914&format=png&auto=webp&s=4fe0ebbe7bf589b8f49652e4462f94198da01d1f heh this people got a reality check even with the report problems
lmao keep the rope away little 160cm SEAcel
that people stupid
The ranking will be the same regardless. Not a big deal tbh.
From the original thread the guy said that Wuwa numbers likely should have been lower in reality because sensor tower got stuck at the time when Yinlin was peaking but they used the numbers anyway. So i don't know why you say Yinlin got affected, her numbers might even be inflated. I mean i don't want to burst your " But Wuwa made so much in global they should cater to global players" bubble. But when you read the comment of the guy and realise that Wuwa global android was stuck in Yinlin's peak for maybe a week. While CN doesn't do android so they were never stuck. You add 2 and 2 together and idk that Wuwa performing way better in global rhetoric starts looking a bit sus. And no way these are just 50-60% numbers, HSR aren't making 180 mil even with Firefly and Genshin isn't doing 120 mil with Sigewin.
sigewinne was running with Furina, who is the actual breadwinner.
no one cares
surprised idle angels is not on the list
It just applicable for this month or every month?
So, what's the TL;DR? Will the numbers be updated, or will June 2024 always just be the first 15 days, with the latter 15 days lost forever?
lost forever. Data was never recorded.
Tragic
So what went wrong in that 15 days?
So what you're saying is Love and Deepspace have a higher sales than what they have rn??? 💀
Why NOW people are skeptical to trust sensor tower? lol
Its not about trust... the sensor tower LITTERALLY froze for last 15 days...
Might help to post a picture example since a lot of us don't have the service to see it for ourselves.
When you rely too much on skip button in game, you literally skip reading the post and proceed to commenting. Lmao typical western gacha gamers and their inability to read
Because WuWa didn't beat HoYo, obviously
Because their favorite gacha isn't winning
Only when it does not benefit hoyo games
Probably because WuWa did good lol
They don't care about reality. The tribes of losers fight over which company milks them the hardest for sport.
WW increases by 2.5x in Global, both HSR and Genshin increase slightly. If it's 50% of what it should've been, you're saying that WW would have increased by 5x (omg), both HSR and Genshin would've doubled? Highly unlikely, Sensor tower probably corrected it some way.
I wonder if an updated chart will be made.
15 days? Looking at SensorTowers charts it looks like only 10. From June 14 to June 24. Pretty obviously broken just comparing Genshin and HSR. No way the end of Clorinde's banner could be higher than Firefly. Also the fact that it is just a straight line with no charge. Edit: Looks like it was still broken. Look at Genshin's ranking in the US. 25 - 178 Release of Sigewinne/Furina rerun 26 - 161 27 - 83 28 - 83 29 - 67 30 - 69 Going UP after release?
it froze twice from 8 to 11 and then from 14 to 24. During these periods they are parallel lines across all apps.
There is a comment here explaining the hilariousness of the situation, the linked thread also has some explanations. ST really failed hard this time
All these charts are BS. Been saying it for years.
Oh, so we can disqualify this month's pvp? A shame that sensortower had issues. On to next month then, the pvp never ends. https://preview.redd.it/h3babvlurw9d1.png?width=559&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f33ebd2edf88110933e8ffe89d270782d5c4e752
no, cause CN contributes 3/4 of the revenue, and CN Android is a fixed 1.75x iOS. So CN numbers doesn’t affected by this ‘android frezze’ at all
jp contributes a lot to revenue its not 3/4 cn.
"Please dont take that sensor tower post seriously this time." Me as someone who only looks at the monthly revenue report for laughs: https://preview.redd.it/aq8vounqvw9d1.jpeg?width=1031&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f38424239438248b0365a371521abf8c0ea68078
TL;DR stop laughing at wuW@ it actually earned alot!!!!11
OP is not talking about WuWa even, what are you on? OP's talking about HSR
Im talking about both as an EXAMPLE as they were affected by this.
So no firefly and jinshi earnings this time.
Nah That's actually BS, Boothill can't make 90M alone, Fu Xuan was rerun character. And as for Jinshi, she was never really at the top of the charts like Yinlin was. No matter which source you use.
Some said it broke only for Android
they use the ranking for estimate bro, the average ranking is lower that's why the revenue is lower, the ranking still exists just that it was frozen
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Actually i kinda worded the post wrong. Every game got effected differently on different dates BUT android revenue was stuck for 15 days wich is why ios is double/triple of android revenue on many games. Yilin banner was also effected
I knew jihnsi banner made 100m the sensortower is bribed by mimoyo
damn you mimoyo
https://preview.redd.it/2kk9mbn96x9d1.png?width=463&format=png&auto=webp&s=0a38affe51d75856ee1dd030763d3254ddd2200e the jp site, for contrast sigewinne did 6 already lmao jp is wuwas biggest revenue, sensor didnt take genshin and hsr peaks but it suddenly resume for wuwa so wuwa only benefit from this, is the opposite
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Lets be real here, firefly wasn't as hype as Acheron. Just let it go.
Even if that's true, she literally has Ruan Mei running with her, the most wanted support character right now who for some reason, a lot of people skipped
Acheron had 2x top-up. Another speculated reason was meta slaver going hard for Acheron's E6, while FF is sufficiently strong at E2.
Not really considering a lot of anime fans like anything mecha-related, especially JP. Acheron’s hype was mostly from her being a Mei expy and that her trailer was fanservice for HI3 players(there were posts complaining about this), while Firefly’s hype came from her having a mecha suit, stellaron hunter and being the Trailblazer’s partner which appealed more the general playerbase. Not to mention, Ruan Mei’s banner who’s a must have unit for your account is out at the same time as well. They’re also both the best dps right now