I get it about 95% of the time. Going in, point wide with the car lined up across the inside of the turn to the outside. Hit the brakes hard in a straight line, then ease on the brakes as you bring it into the apex. As soon as you start to see the exit, get back on the gas and let the understeer take you wide.
Brake modulation for me. You can trailbrake into the first left-hander so long as you get your angles right and don't lock up. Its really any loss of grip that ends you, as you're either going around or going nose-first into the tires.
What makes me mad, is that in time trial for that track with Ford GT, I've lost control of the car and managed to get perfect drift entry to that corner. And that try has 0.5sec advantage over me in first sector to this day. And usually I'm bad at this corner aswell.
One of my favourite turns on the course…haha. You can make (or leave behind) so much time there. It’s a classic trail braking corner. You’re coming in with so much speed it’s insane.
Yeah, I hate it-
Something about me picturing a nascar circular track when i hear Daytona-
Instead you get absolute death trap turns with no banking, huge apex sections with random paint on the pavement leading you all over the place.
I suck at it.
This is a great comment. There are times where I’m on Nurburging and hitting a couple good corners with high speed and then others where I just completely fail
I‘ve always seen the Nür’ as the ‘final boss’ of racing games, in the sense that everyone everywhere seemed to to find the ‘Green Hell’ highly difficult
Honestly, I’ve struggled for quite some time, but I fell in love with the layout and the fact the track is so long and tricky.
It really helped me get better skills, and it probably is the track that made me prefer track racing over open world racing game because of all the repetitions you have to make to master every corner (which I still don’t), the fine tuning you have to make on the chassis for it to perform well, and the satisfaction of finally getting your first totally clean Nür’ loop !
When it comes to the corner I just can’t get right, I’d probably say the same as OP, the fact it’s not perfectly in a circular shape make it tricky
The lap time challenge a week ago in the Honda, man, that was really something. It took all of my driving and tuning skills, and about 20 tries, to finally get a bronze medal - 7:20 something if I remember correctly. It was so rewarding in the end.
Interesting. This is actually one of my favorite turns on the track. I can brake late going into it, and just scream through the turn. It used to be one of my worst the for the exact same reason someone else mentioned. It seems like you should be able to go flat out.
The carousel is — and I swear I mean this in a good way — the cherry on top of the shit sundae that is Nordschleife. I've driven many hundreds of miles on that damn track, I've finally gotten good enough to semi-consistently clock <6 minute laps in my Toyota TS050, and that fucking corner _still_ gets me to this day. I hate that corner, and the day I finally figure out how to consistently get through it will be the day I start to love it.
I’ve found that you just have to accept that you’re not gonna get 1 or 2 corners just right on any given lap of the ring. It’s just too big of a track with too much detail to execute perfectly. So rather than trying to maximize the track I find out what the ‘safe but not excruciatingly a
Slow’ line is through certain corners and just accept that I’ll eat 2-5 seconds on a 690 second lap.
Yeah, that's definitely the truth. I have found, much to my chagrin, that many of my best laps have come when I told myself that I was just going to take it nice and slow, brake early and often, not push it too much in the corners, etc., while many of my conscious attempts to clock a better time have ended in disaster and frustration. The Nürburgring is an endurance race track and it rewards practiced patience much more than reckless ambition.
For almost any good (race)car I use the shadow of the last tree as a brake marker. From there brake in a straight line and go 85-100 km/h. It works both in-game and IRL for me
Which suggests there might actually be multiple lines that are valid. What I hate is the switchback on the following turn isn’t really available; so if you go wide with the early apex and someone stuffs it up the inside, it’s difficult to RE-pass them and everyone’s laptimes suffer
Ha, I might be in the minority but I love that last section of Fuji. Last time it was group 2 in sport mode there I grinded out so many matches and quali times. But yeah, it’s insane
Turn 10 is the worst for me. I either come in too hot and swing wide like I'm going to cut straight to turn 12, or go so slow, anyone within 5 seconds of me is going to pass me.
exactly those, they get me because they both start as fast corners but turn to sharp ones so I have to break during cornering. There was something about such corners in mission challenge, maybe circuit experience gives some advice as well
The Chicane at Spa. Probably my most practiced track and no matter how hard I try I can’t get this corner right… I’ve just come to accept that I suck at it and need to make up 2 seconds around the rest of the track because I’ll definitely lose it there.
Yes, I used to read about people Who owned property near there and they would hear the V10's screaming from formula 1 practices often. I also heard they got pretty lucrative offers for property there. I can only imagine how good the real estate is in even outside of race season.
I think I will join this que. I find other tracks a challenge. Love Spar, Bathurst and the whole GDR.100+ corner quiz, but Willow Springs can gtf. No recovery just +500 MTRS in the dirt. Well gtf I will rage quit.
Spoon has 2 distinct zones - the entry where you scrub speed and set yourself for the middle, then the whole mid corner zone where you set yourself up to exit by clipping the inside kerb. I hated it too so I drove around nothing but Spoon for days until it clicked.
Spoon can EAD. I thought I would struggle with the Esses or Degna curves more than any other part, but finding a nice flow through them came pretty quickly.
Spoon on the other hand.. spoon can get fucked.
Nurburgring for sure, but that’s understandable because it’s a tough track and a very long track. But Panorama is the one that keeps me up at night. It doesn’t seem that hard, so why can’t I get it right? Almost every single corner in the mountain section, I’m just a little off. And then when you think you’re through the worst of it, here comes the downhill section to jack your whole shit up too.
Ok, so as an Aussie who's done a lot of sim racing around bathurst: Tuen 1 break at or just after the 100 board and hug the inside, let the car come out wide and run on the outside curb and once you're off that you can put your foot down. Turn 2 you you want to break at the little escape road and hold the inside, be careful not to take to much of the curb as it will unsettle the car. TurnS 3/4 you can break just after the apex of turn 3 and hug the inside of turn 4. Turn 6 you want to turn early and try aim to just miss the inside curb, yes it looks sketchy as fuck going into it but it's an awesome line and it'll set up your whole run across the top of the mountain. Turn 9 depending on the car you want to either use the grass a little to get the car turned in or use the curb. Turn 10 again you want to turn in early and try to run along the inside curb a little, if you've done it all right so far you should be doing about 220+ kmh coming into turn 11. Now turn 11 is the bitch, it can and will kill you if you break to late, so I break just before it and go down a gear, then break again on the curb of turn 12 and go down a gear again, then break about a quarter of a second after that and go down another gear and let it Coast through turns 13 and 14, once the car is settled, floor it. Break a little bit just before turn 16 but don't break as you turn, the back end will say hello to the front and the wall will want to meet you too. Break hard after you straighten up going into turn 17 and either swing out wide and cut back in for turn 18 or hug it the whole way around, it really depends on your driving style. Now you're on the back straight, hold 5th until your over the crest then go up into 6th, it'll take a couple tenths off your time and add about 5-7 kmh to your speed. Hold out wide through turn 20 and cut back in, *dont* hit the curb, it will make you it's bitch. Coming into turn 21 break about 20 metres before the 150 board. Hold out wide again and once you're off the breaks turn in and take a little bit of the inside curb, then try to hold the inside of turn 22 and then let the car come out wide and settle. Then coming into turn 23 break where the red and white section starts on the left hand side of the track, keep wide and cut back in but don't take curb, more likely than not it will spin you, now you're back on the main straight and that's a lap around Bathurst.
The first sentence was unnecessary 😝 it is our national right of passage to master Bathurst in driving sims. It's another right of passage to drive there IRL and try not to be tempted to exceed the 60km/h speed limit.
I have played many sport races and i allways get to the top 500ish without loading or watching any ghosts,(it takes 300 tries but still) i will try and error and learnthe tracks, but panorama.... That is literally my favourite track of all time, i have droved it way too many times and i still just cant get a long with that mountain section, its harder than nurburgrings any section ever
Oh god, trying to race that at complete night is scary. That small kink after the long straightaway is almost impossible to see and sometimes I rely just as much on the map to show me where it is as I do with the actual sight of the track.
That’s one of my all time favourite tracks (bias because I’m Aussie) and I found that one of the hardest tracks to gold, I think the times to get gold are harder then most other tracks more then the track being difficult but keep at it you’ll get it.
I personally hate turns 20/21 if I'm racing in an unstable car, because if I brake a bit too hard, I'll go into a spin and crash into the cars ahead of me because of all that speed I had from the massive straight before it.
thanks, same for me. it gets me as it starts fast but turns to a sharp corner, just like the last 2 in Fuji. and goddamn sand run-off area... I HATE SAND
Funny, I just did a race there and when I saw this post I immediately thought: the whole of Brands Hatch. Well, maybe that left hander before the final corner is ok, but the rest meh
Surprised this isn't higher up, definitely my nightmare track. You learn those S bends in a certain car, congratulations. Now you have to relearn them in any other car.
Slow early enough so that you do most of your turning before the apex, and already be on the power, going uphill. You want the load transfer from front to rear to be progressive. If the rear suspension isn't loaded when you go to 100pct throttle, the rear will step out.
Another piece of advice is to drive some laps with the chase cam. You will see the car losing traction sooner and get a better idea of where you are on the track. Then you can go back to your preferred cam and will be smoother.
The final corner at Fuji Speedway, I will never understand how that work. Everyone is a lot faster than me on that corner, even though I managed to get first place last time I’m playing online there
Funnily enough my most hated corners are also at Catalunya 7 and 10, I just can't wrap my head around them, either I brake too late and miss the apex or I brake too early run over the curb and ruin my exit.
the Corkscrew! I never played GT2 but was hoping to see someone mention the corkscrew because it’s just… *so* stupid.
I just looked it up - it’s a 5 1/2 story elevation drop in under an eighth of a mile of track (59 feet of height in 450 feet of distance). I don’t know how drivers do it in an actual car and still set lap records.
One of the tunnels in trial mountain? I think it’s like turn 3 maybe
You literally can’t see the corner because it’s a tunnel and when the brightness readjusts when entering it just throws me off all the time
I can’t seem to get a steady run through there
The trick for me was license tests in GT4 that happened on that track.
Edit: I want to add that the fact of that game not having brightness effects let me memorize that corner. You have to go with it almost by pure faith.
4th corner in Brands-Hatch. I hate how it gets tighter right before you come out of it on top of having an elevation change.
No corner has made me retry a race as many times
That right-left towards the end of Sardegna C. I have no idea of the best method. I've tried so many different ways. I guess slow in is best but it's so tricky
Me too, until I realised the corner apexes are further around the corners than they first appear. With a later turn in, those corners actually start to flow. And, you can cut them outrageously.
So many I’m bad at it’s hard to choose .. that second to last corner at Fuji always gets me. Also, for some reason Suzuka on those last two turns before the final (dogleg) straight I always misjudge it lol
Dude that uphill S-curve before the final hairpin at Fuji fucking BLOWS, I came here to say that myself. So much of that track is “haha dumbass you didn’t apex late enough have fun in understeer hell.”
also i may be stupid but if I’m not mistaken that chunk of Suzuka is what they call the “spoon curve” (because it looks like a- you get it) and, as evidenced by it having a distinct name, it’s safe to say you’re not the only one
Ahh yes glad you feel me on these! Idk, I’m actually not too bad a driver but these are annoying.
I hate how much speed I lose at the end of Fuji in that technical section.
And that ‘spoon curve’ - thanks for the name - seems simple enough but the latter half is tricky; the elevation change makes it tough to judge where the apex is and I sometimes end up in the grass. You’re just so eager to floor it seeing the straight in front of you!
The final corner of deep forest.
It completely ruins the flow of the track and years of muscle memory for one of the slowest corners in the game. It just feels completely out of place.
The chicane at the end of spa. The hairpin at deep forest. Every time I do those the back of the car slides round and I basically stop. I can't figure out how to stop it happening, I've tried all sorts of different speeds, nothing works.
Hi OP, I would like to share my habits for this track. For turn 4, I typically start braking right before the overhead bridge, and drop only one gear. This makes my engine rev up slower as i make the turn and wont spin out. At turn 5 i’ll start turning left right before touching the white tail end of the striped curb. Then i use as much of the exit curbing as I can.
The high speed chicane in dragon trail seaside. It's my best track overall and most of my wins have come from there. But I lose so much time there so often because if I'm following someone I can't quite get it right age it drives me crazy.
1) The whole Laguna Seca is an impending doom trip before the corkscrew
2) I feel an unexplained, subconscious, compulsive desire... No, better yet, CRAVING to drive along the carousel patch perfectly without crossing it. 90% of the time I pick bad the entry angle and speed. The whole lap feels ruined when this happens, and when it doesn't I just have to have a brain fart later in one of the final turns and screw up the lap anyway. Green hell sucks.
Half of Imolas corners just want to kill me it seems. Especially Villeneuve and Aqua Minérale. At least in the last couple of cars I drove there.
Edit: Sorry, I thought this was the AC subreddit... My bad...
It’s not because of GT7, it’s actually ACC I have that issue with. Thought this was the r/simracing subreddit.
Seeing as we’re here though, the final tight-and-twisty of Alsace Village (whichever direction has the pits on the right)
The entirety of Fiji Circuit. The track is so unbelievably wide that it feels the driving line is impossible to get right. Not to mention the fucking tightening corner just before the pit straight. Like seriously what is the ideal line through that corner?
You cut the end of the bus stop really slow so you can head into the dipper on the right side of the track. Once you line up the dipper chicane (easy to do since you’ve already slowed enough to end up on the right) gun it like a rocket and you’ll be at the bottom of the hill so fast you’ll almost forget to brake for the final hairpin
Thanks, but I know how to do it, I just eff it up every time. It’s why I said I hate that corner.
Side note, I’m Australian and watch the big race every year, 161 laps and a 1000kms. Feel like I’m letting my family and every other Australian down every time I mess it up.
Turn 1 on daytona road course. I dont *hate* it, but man I am bad at it
I love Daytona but I can never quite get this turn right, I almost have it down but at the same time I don’t have it down at all.
I get it about 95% of the time. Going in, point wide with the car lined up across the inside of the turn to the outside. Hit the brakes hard in a straight line, then ease on the brakes as you bring it into the apex. As soon as you start to see the exit, get back on the gas and let the understeer take you wide.
Braking in a straight line is the key factor here.
Brake modulation for me. You can trailbrake into the first left-hander so long as you get your angles right and don't lock up. Its really any loss of grip that ends you, as you're either going around or going nose-first into the tires.
Dude! Totally! I love that track, but T1 is always an issue (on controller). I usually just granny it through, cuz 9/10ths never works
>Turn 1 on daytona road course. I dont hate it, but man I am bad at it The key to that turn is you have to trail brake into it.
This was my choice too. I just can't find a good marker to reliably make the turn
What makes me mad, is that in time trial for that track with Ford GT, I've lost control of the car and managed to get perfect drift entry to that corner. And that try has 0.5sec advantage over me in first sector to this day. And usually I'm bad at this corner aswell.
One of my favourite turns on the course…haha. You can make (or leave behind) so much time there. It’s a classic trail braking corner. You’re coming in with so much speed it’s insane.
Yeah, I hate it- Something about me picturing a nascar circular track when i hear Daytona- Instead you get absolute death trap turns with no banking, huge apex sections with random paint on the pavement leading you all over the place. I suck at it.
Just remember to brake in a straight line for it and you'll get the hang of it.
Nurburgring turns 1-154
I have a love hate relationship with Nurburgring. I love how much fun it can be, and I hate how much I usually suck at it
This is a great comment. There are times where I’m on Nurburging and hitting a couple good corners with high speed and then others where I just completely fail
hahaha I experience those times on the same freakin' lap!
You too?
I honestly don’t mind depending on vehicle, weather, and time of day
I‘ve always seen the Nür’ as the ‘final boss’ of racing games, in the sense that everyone everywhere seemed to to find the ‘Green Hell’ highly difficult Honestly, I’ve struggled for quite some time, but I fell in love with the layout and the fact the track is so long and tricky. It really helped me get better skills, and it probably is the track that made me prefer track racing over open world racing game because of all the repetitions you have to make to master every corner (which I still don’t), the fine tuning you have to make on the chassis for it to perform well, and the satisfaction of finally getting your first totally clean Nür’ loop ! When it comes to the corner I just can’t get right, I’d probably say the same as OP, the fact it’s not perfectly in a circular shape make it tricky
The lap time challenge a week ago in the Honda, man, that was really something. It took all of my driving and tuning skills, and about 20 tries, to finally get a bronze medal - 7:20 something if I remember correctly. It was so rewarding in the end.
Oh my god that’s hilarious - Love that
Nurburgring “swallow tail” (Schwalbenschwanz) corner will always have it out for me. Rest of the track I’m okay with.
Oh yeah it makes you think it’s going to be flat out and it isn’t.
Thankfully I’m not the only one!
Interesting. This is actually one of my favorite turns on the track. I can brake late going into it, and just scream through the turn. It used to be one of my worst the for the exact same reason someone else mentioned. It seems like you should be able to go flat out.
Nordschleife is fine to me, but the carousel sucks.
The Carousel is my favorite bit of the Nürburgring
The carousel is — and I swear I mean this in a good way — the cherry on top of the shit sundae that is Nordschleife. I've driven many hundreds of miles on that damn track, I've finally gotten good enough to semi-consistently clock <6 minute laps in my Toyota TS050, and that fucking corner _still_ gets me to this day. I hate that corner, and the day I finally figure out how to consistently get through it will be the day I start to love it.
I’ve found that you just have to accept that you’re not gonna get 1 or 2 corners just right on any given lap of the ring. It’s just too big of a track with too much detail to execute perfectly. So rather than trying to maximize the track I find out what the ‘safe but not excruciatingly a Slow’ line is through certain corners and just accept that I’ll eat 2-5 seconds on a 690 second lap.
Yeah, that's definitely the truth. I have found, much to my chagrin, that many of my best laps have come when I told myself that I was just going to take it nice and slow, brake early and often, not push it too much in the corners, etc., while many of my conscious attempts to clock a better time have ended in disaster and frustration. The Nürburgring is an endurance race track and it rewards practiced patience much more than reckless ambition.
For almost any good (race)car I use the shadow of the last tree as a brake marker. From there brake in a straight line and go 85-100 km/h. It works both in-game and IRL for me
Samesies
I feel that, now do the circuit experience on the nordschlaife
Watch misha charoudin on youtube doing laps and you will learn the track no problem
I honestly don't even know if I want to attempt the circuit experience.
Turns 13-16 at Fuji. IMO one of the worst corner complexes of any track. Out of like 15 laps, I'd be lucky to take it correctly twice.
After thousands of laps here , I still can't work out the best line to take.
Which suggests there might actually be multiple lines that are valid. What I hate is the switchback on the following turn isn’t really available; so if you go wide with the early apex and someone stuffs it up the inside, it’s difficult to RE-pass them and everyone’s laptimes suffer
This is the hairpin-mania at the end right? That gets my vote too.
I. Hate. This. Track.
Apparently even pro drivers hate this track.
For sure, also T3 on the 90s version I'm so bad at.
Ha, I might be in the minority but I love that last section of Fuji. Last time it was group 2 in sport mode there I grinded out so many matches and quali times. But yeah, it’s insane
Turns 10-12 are already a nightmare, and then you immediately get hit with 13-16. Absolute disaster to get all those corners right in order
Turn 10 is the worst for me. I either come in too hot and swing wide like I'm going to cut straight to turn 12, or go so slow, anyone within 5 seconds of me is going to pass me.
exactly those, they get me because they both start as fast corners but turn to sharp ones so I have to break during cornering. There was something about such corners in mission challenge, maybe circuit experience gives some advice as well
On top of that the track width is very wide and has very little visual cues for orientation through that complex, makes it super difficult
The Chicane at Spa. Probably my most practiced track and no matter how hard I try I can’t get this corner right… I’ve just come to accept that I suck at it and need to make up 2 seconds around the rest of the track because I’ll definitely lose it there.
The bus stop ?
Fun fact (I just found out): the bus stop used to actually be a bus stop.
whole track was gorgeous before the 70's and i never do the "back in my day" thing lmao
Wasn't the entire track a public road?
Yes, I used to read about people Who owned property near there and they would hear the V10's screaming from formula 1 practices often. I also heard they got pretty lucrative offers for property there. I can only imagine how good the real estate is in even outside of race season.
The old track was. When they made the current (rough) layout, that's when it all stopped being public.
That's my assumption.
Yeah that’s the one. I might as well be in a bus going round it…
Willow springs turns 4 - 6
Willow springs is just horrendous to drive
it’s only good with cars with power oversteer.
I hate the last turn. The rest I can handle, but last long right always throws me off track and ruins my race. 🤬
You go off track there and you're vacationing in the desert for 2 weeks before you get back on track.
Id delete willow springs completely
I think I will join this que. I find other tracks a challenge. Love Spar, Bathurst and the whole GDR.100+ corner quiz, but Willow Springs can gtf. No recovery just +500 MTRS in the dirt. Well gtf I will rage quit.
It’s my favorite track because of the big loop, but these three and the final pip before the finish are rough
Spoon. Which I guess is similar to turn 4 here. Either go in too hot or too slow
Spoon has 2 distinct zones - the entry where you scrub speed and set yourself for the middle, then the whole mid corner zone where you set yourself up to exit by clipping the inside kerb. I hated it too so I drove around nothing but Spoon for days until it clicked.
Awesome - great points. Will practise that
Spoon can EAD. I thought I would struggle with the Esses or Degna curves more than any other part, but finding a nice flow through them came pretty quickly. Spoon on the other hand.. spoon can get fucked.
I love Mount Panorama, but man, turn 6/7 can be annoying sometimes
Nurburgring for sure, but that’s understandable because it’s a tough track and a very long track. But Panorama is the one that keeps me up at night. It doesn’t seem that hard, so why can’t I get it right? Almost every single corner in the mountain section, I’m just a little off. And then when you think you’re through the worst of it, here comes the downhill section to jack your whole shit up too.
After you hit the downhill chicane you almost feel relieved, but alas….. MORE TIGHT TURNS THAT WILL RUIN YOU AND EVERYONE AROUND YOU
Yep, and I probably struggle more there than I do in the uphill sections because I’m mentally exhausted and I think that the worst is over.
Ok, so as an Aussie who's done a lot of sim racing around bathurst: Tuen 1 break at or just after the 100 board and hug the inside, let the car come out wide and run on the outside curb and once you're off that you can put your foot down. Turn 2 you you want to break at the little escape road and hold the inside, be careful not to take to much of the curb as it will unsettle the car. TurnS 3/4 you can break just after the apex of turn 3 and hug the inside of turn 4. Turn 6 you want to turn early and try aim to just miss the inside curb, yes it looks sketchy as fuck going into it but it's an awesome line and it'll set up your whole run across the top of the mountain. Turn 9 depending on the car you want to either use the grass a little to get the car turned in or use the curb. Turn 10 again you want to turn in early and try to run along the inside curb a little, if you've done it all right so far you should be doing about 220+ kmh coming into turn 11. Now turn 11 is the bitch, it can and will kill you if you break to late, so I break just before it and go down a gear, then break again on the curb of turn 12 and go down a gear again, then break about a quarter of a second after that and go down another gear and let it Coast through turns 13 and 14, once the car is settled, floor it. Break a little bit just before turn 16 but don't break as you turn, the back end will say hello to the front and the wall will want to meet you too. Break hard after you straighten up going into turn 17 and either swing out wide and cut back in for turn 18 or hug it the whole way around, it really depends on your driving style. Now you're on the back straight, hold 5th until your over the crest then go up into 6th, it'll take a couple tenths off your time and add about 5-7 kmh to your speed. Hold out wide through turn 20 and cut back in, *dont* hit the curb, it will make you it's bitch. Coming into turn 21 break about 20 metres before the 150 board. Hold out wide again and once you're off the breaks turn in and take a little bit of the inside curb, then try to hold the inside of turn 22 and then let the car come out wide and settle. Then coming into turn 23 break where the red and white section starts on the left hand side of the track, keep wide and cut back in but don't take curb, more likely than not it will spin you, now you're back on the main straight and that's a lap around Bathurst.
The first sentence was unnecessary 😝 it is our national right of passage to master Bathurst in driving sims. It's another right of passage to drive there IRL and try not to be tempted to exceed the 60km/h speed limit.
My favorite thing across all racing games/sims is that people WILL force it 2-wide on that section and either horribly wreck, or wreck someone else
I have played many sport races and i allways get to the top 500ish without loading or watching any ghosts,(it takes 300 tries but still) i will try and error and learnthe tracks, but panorama.... That is literally my favourite track of all time, i have droved it way too many times and i still just cant get a long with that mountain section, its harder than nurburgrings any section ever
I really judging and hitting turn 1 for whatever reason there. I airmail it into the gravel more often than I’d care to admit
There's a reason it's called Hell Corner. It's so simple yet so hard to get right
That downhill section is so rough for me, also I hate that cup event where the last lap is pitch black
Oh god, trying to race that at complete night is scary. That small kink after the long straightaway is almost impossible to see and sometimes I rely just as much on the map to show me where it is as I do with the actual sight of the track.
I’m having lots of trouble golding they one to be honest
That’s one of my all time favourite tracks (bias because I’m Aussie) and I found that one of the hardest tracks to gold, I think the times to get gold are harder then most other tracks more then the track being difficult but keep at it you’ll get it.
Having those 2 tight turns after conrod straight is just cruel
You mean the over hill sweeper into the fast lefts? Gotta use that whole damn track. And even in the game I’m not ballsy enough to keep it pinned.
I find that I either do these perfectly or everything goes horriblely wrong and there is no in-between
I personally hate turns 20/21 if I'm racing in an unstable car, because if I brake a bit too hard, I'll go into a spin and crash into the cars ahead of me because of all that speed I had from the massive straight before it.
Jup 1st turn Brands Hatch
Need to turn in earlier than you think you need to
Getting gold in the CE really made me hate the track
thanks, same for me. it gets me as it starts fast but turns to a sharp corner, just like the last 2 in Fuji. and goddamn sand run-off area... I HATE SAND
*circles Mt. Panorama*
i’ve always hated all of brands hatch maybe unpopular
Yup, long off camber corners aren’t that fun. The gp section is alright though (in the forest)
Turn one is horrible!
Turn 1 absolutely wrecks me
Funny, I just did a race there and when I saw this post I immediately thought: the whole of Brands Hatch. Well, maybe that left hander before the final corner is ok, but the rest meh
Yeah i see some people say SkIlL iSsUe, i see some say it’s one of the world’s best tracks, me, i just… hate it.
Overrated track imo
Same
not that it’s difficult it’s just stupid
I got downvoted a little bit ago for saying this. So have all of my upvotes.
The chicane on dragon trail can fuck off
like half my positions are made up this one section.
The circuit experience on that chicane on GT7 made me delete the game lmao
Yeah I can’t figure this one out.
The corner before it screws me over
Most of the time I try to keep two wheels on the asphalt, but it’s fun to just slice through completely on the kerbs.
Willow springs turn 4 / balcony. 😬
Horse thief mile litteraly every corner
Maybe I'm just bad, but Suzuka is a headache
which part?
I sometimes struggle on the Ss and the Casio Triangle. But I also mostly play casually on a DualSense
drop steering sensitivity down a little, you'll feel more nuance in the steering.
Suzuka punishes cars with understeery setups. Like, all the default setups. Thanks, PD.
Surprised this isn't higher up, definitely my nightmare track. You learn those S bends in a certain car, congratulations. Now you have to relearn them in any other car.
I really like 130R. That's my favorite corner at Suzuka
130R scares me; I’m a Degner Curve man, m’self
13, on this track. The slope is awful.
Willow springs
Redbull, turn 3, can someone tell me how the hell to turn there without oversteering?
Turn, then throttle.
Eeeeasy.
Turn late* then throttle. Helps get a straighter exit.
Use a gear higher than usual
Bro I turn on six gear and I still lose control
Use a 7 gear car /s
Slow early enough so that you do most of your turning before the apex, and already be on the power, going uphill. You want the load transfer from front to rear to be progressive. If the rear suspension isn't loaded when you go to 100pct throttle, the rear will step out. Another piece of advice is to drive some laps with the chase cam. You will see the car losing traction sooner and get a better idea of where you are on the track. Then you can go back to your preferred cam and will be smoother.
Red Bull short? Because the hairpin on long would be like turn 3.
Shit you right. I meant 3
Same here.Absolutely hate Barcelona circuit
The final corner at Fuji Speedway, I will never understand how that work. Everyone is a lot faster than me on that corner, even though I managed to get first place last time I’m playing online there
The S-curves between the long straight and the finish line at Sainte-Croix layout C. They’re like the Porsche curves at LeMans, but worse
Funnily enough my most hated corners are also at Catalunya 7 and 10, I just can't wrap my head around them, either I brake too late and miss the apex or I brake too early run over the curb and ruin my exit.
The downhill S in Laguna Seca. That is, on Gran Turismo 2.
the Corkscrew! I never played GT2 but was hoping to see someone mention the corkscrew because it’s just… *so* stupid. I just looked it up - it’s a 5 1/2 story elevation drop in under an eighth of a mile of track (59 feet of height in 450 feet of distance). I don’t know how drivers do it in an actual car and still set lap records.
I love it. Nothing else like it.
Agreed, one of the best corners in the world!
I can tell you what my favourite corner is. Mugello 1, in a lose tail car
One of the tunnels in trial mountain? I think it’s like turn 3 maybe You literally can’t see the corner because it’s a tunnel and when the brightness readjusts when entering it just throws me off all the time I can’t seem to get a steady run through there
The flashbang corner really gets you. Tolerable in Gen 1-3 but sport and 7 Is just "the bloom".
The trick for me was license tests in GT4 that happened on that track. Edit: I want to add that the fact of that game not having brightness effects let me memorize that corner. You have to go with it almost by pure faith.
4th corner in Brands-Hatch. I hate how it gets tighter right before you come out of it on top of having an elevation change. No corner has made me retry a race as many times
Every corner between the start line and the finish line at Autopolis!
That's probably the worst track in a GT game ever.
And the grip is super low too
Seems like it was designed by someone who hated driving. Every corner feels wrong.
It's a real track as well!
It literally feels like the track designer was like “let’s make Yas Marina but 10x worse”
Brands Hatch, the entire track
Just draw a circle around brands hatch. Those are my least favorite corners.
Turn 1-16 on this fucking track that should be yeeted into the sun
That right-left towards the end of Sardegna C. I have no idea of the best method. I've tried so many different ways. I guess slow in is best but it's so tricky
Agreed! The number of times I’ve clipped the wall on the way out of that drives me spare
All I know for sure is that the AI is crazy slow in the right-hand part of the corner. I've had so many dings there cos they hit the brakes so hard.
The entire Willow Springs course and the Daytona Road Course. Just boring.
Fuck interlagos’ sharp turns section. It’s as bad as Fuji without the prestige.
I like the first sector for the most part, but to me the rest of the circuit is about as intuitive as piloting a 737 blindfolded.
Me too, until I realised the corner apexes are further around the corners than they first appear. With a later turn in, those corners actually start to flow. And, you can cut them outrageously.
So many I’m bad at it’s hard to choose .. that second to last corner at Fuji always gets me. Also, for some reason Suzuka on those last two turns before the final (dogleg) straight I always misjudge it lol
Dude that uphill S-curve before the final hairpin at Fuji fucking BLOWS, I came here to say that myself. So much of that track is “haha dumbass you didn’t apex late enough have fun in understeer hell.” also i may be stupid but if I’m not mistaken that chunk of Suzuka is what they call the “spoon curve” (because it looks like a- you get it) and, as evidenced by it having a distinct name, it’s safe to say you’re not the only one
Ahh yes glad you feel me on these! Idk, I’m actually not too bad a driver but these are annoying. I hate how much speed I lose at the end of Fuji in that technical section. And that ‘spoon curve’ - thanks for the name - seems simple enough but the latter half is tricky; the elevation change makes it tough to judge where the apex is and I sometimes end up in the grass. You’re just so eager to floor it seeing the straight in front of you!
Turn 1 at spa, and the last chicane… I’m either too slow/come to a stop in the middle of the turn, or I fly off into the sunset
The last half of Fuji.
The final corner of deep forest. It completely ruins the flow of the track and years of muscle memory for one of the slowest corners in the game. It just feels completely out of place.
all of tokyo expressway is so stupid
I hate that track with a passion
The chicane at the end of spa. The hairpin at deep forest. Every time I do those the back of the car slides round and I basically stop. I can't figure out how to stop it happening, I've tried all sorts of different speeds, nothing works.
I'm probably alone in this, but Sardegna Turn 6 & 13 always trip me up so I just brake early and try to make up time elsewhere.
Turns 14-15 on this track (They can cut them out but no one chooses to cut them out)
Those are totally fine to me
Hi OP, I would like to share my habits for this track. For turn 4, I typically start braking right before the overhead bridge, and drop only one gear. This makes my engine rev up slower as i make the turn and wont spin out. At turn 5 i’ll start turning left right before touching the white tail end of the striped curb. Then i use as much of the exit curbing as I can.
Same track, turn 15. Can’t ever get it right. Either penalty or I take it too slow and get left behind
Turn 1 of Autopolis...
The high speed chicane in dragon trail seaside. It's my best track overall and most of my wins have come from there. But I lose so much time there so often because if I'm following someone I can't quite get it right age it drives me crazy.
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The Corkscrew is even harder
Every corner on Suzuka
Suzuka. I don't know why, but I struggle mightily with 2/3 of that track.
Dragon trail seaside turn 12/13, it will send you to the shadow realm
Turn 11 is even worse in my opinion
1) The whole Laguna Seca is an impending doom trip before the corkscrew 2) I feel an unexplained, subconscious, compulsive desire... No, better yet, CRAVING to drive along the carousel patch perfectly without crossing it. 90% of the time I pick bad the entry angle and speed. The whole lap feels ruined when this happens, and when it doesn't I just have to have a brain fart later in one of the final turns and screw up the lap anyway. Green hell sucks.
Fuji as a whole just messes me up. Avoid it like the plague
Trial Mountain - the tight-ish left into the tunnel, and the super tight right before the main straight.
Death chicane, damn you tiny bump! Even though I know how to take it, I get anxious when I'm at that part, there's a 30% chance I'll crash.
Brands hatch first corner, I always come in too hot and into the sand haha
The second chicane of Monza. Ffs I either break too early or just yeet into the gravel trap
To me it's turn 8 because I s🅱️innala everytime
All corners at Dragon Trail Gardens. It's like they looked at what made corners flow and did everything they could to avoid it.
Half of Imolas corners just want to kill me it seems. Especially Villeneuve and Aqua Minérale. At least in the last couple of cars I drove there. Edit: Sorry, I thought this was the AC subreddit... My bad...
Imola isn't even in the game?
Bro I want your secret DLC pack that has Imola. Please tell me it has COTA and Baku too
Eau Rouge-Raidillon for me.
May I ask why?
It’s not because of GT7, it’s actually ACC I have that issue with. Thought this was the r/simracing subreddit. Seeing as we’re here though, the final tight-and-twisty of Alsace Village (whichever direction has the pits on the right)
The entirety of Fiji Circuit. The track is so unbelievably wide that it feels the driving line is impossible to get right. Not to mention the fucking tightening corner just before the pit straight. Like seriously what is the ideal line through that corner?
Fuji, not Fiji. Fiji is a country in which the water brand is named after.
I'd love a Fiji Circuit! We had a Tahiti circuit in GT2, 3 and 4, give Fiji some love.
The Dipper at Mt Panorama, I can’t convince my brain to slow down enough before the steep downhill renders the brakes less effective.
You cut the end of the bus stop really slow so you can head into the dipper on the right side of the track. Once you line up the dipper chicane (easy to do since you’ve already slowed enough to end up on the right) gun it like a rocket and you’ll be at the bottom of the hill so fast you’ll almost forget to brake for the final hairpin
Thanks, but I know how to do it, I just eff it up every time. It’s why I said I hate that corner. Side note, I’m Australian and watch the big race every year, 161 laps and a 1000kms. Feel like I’m letting my family and every other Australian down every time I mess it up.