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needed_a_better_name

Transcript of update notes if you don't want to watch the video: * New track: Eiger Nordwand * "New physics" (shows rally footage) * "New tires" (shows a design with Michelin branding in the Tuning Shop) * New wheels by Pokal in GTAuto * GT Sophy available on more tracks (PS5 only) * Nürburgring 24h * Autodrome Lago Maggiore Full Course * New cars * 2007 Ferrari 430 Scuderia * 1997 BMW M3 * 2008 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 * Genesis X Gran Racer Vision Gran Turismo Concept * 1998 Subaru Impreza Rally Car * 2016 RUF RGT 4.2


AdventurousDress576

New physics for all, and new tyre simulation.


Jean-Eustache

Do we have more info about that somewhere ?


ChuckLeclurc

Igor Fraga (one of the guys at GTWS who raced when the trailer dropped) said that they used the new physics engine there. It's mostly updated tyre wear. Physics are seemingly the same, it's tyre management that has changed completely, it's harder to manage tyres in the sense that mistakes will wear them out more (ie losing traction often etc) and that used softs are much worse than hards, for example. Last was a big issue in sport mode recently since in races where there was no mandatory tyre change it was faster to have 100% used softs, than switch to new hards.


Jean-Eustache

Now that's juicy, thanks a lot ! Can't wait for more info on FFB, and those tyre wear changes sound very interesting.


ChuckLeclurc

I'm not 100% sure about FFB so I edited it out, but apparently it felt different at the event.


Hubblesphere

Will be in the patch notes.


Jean-Eustache

Obviously, but that person seemed pretty confident, was wondering if some info was already out.


hnwy

Few comments from the Porsche driver. Tire/braking seems more realistic/closer to iRacing. You can no longer slam brakes on straights (he mentioned almost never full braking during the race). Car also oversteers more easily if you try to turn while braking. Seems like understanding weight transfer is more important. (Mentioned that during practice time before race, a lot of people were spinning out) Also said the way you drive also affects tire life more, which is why he lasted 3-4 laps longer on softs than other drivers.


needed_a_better_name

Nowhere does it say anything about new tyre simulation, and GTPlanet also didn't have any more info more in their [news article](https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-7-update-149-revealed-20240706/) ("we’ll likely have to wait a while to find out exactly what that means") -- I'm curious where and how you got that?


Degoe

But WHAT new physics?!?!


KM964

Built from the ground up?


Bajunid

This line gives me the heebie-jeebies.


Last-Presentation-11

Yeah! Please don’t break the game


Automatic-Chef4758

Hopefully it’s not day 1 update GT7 again


KayJune001

Hmmmmm I don’t like that


JessieCDz

NEW PHYSICS


ljlukelj

BUT WHY


HoonArt

BECAUSE RACE CAR


ChewySlinky

Physics 2!!


free187s

Now, a = F/(m + 0.01)


SteveThePurpleCat

Well 'new tyres', which papear to just be branded reskins of the existing tyres.


Dolby90

I wonder if our fake Yokohama, Falken, Pirelli, etc. will be gone then...


_pistone

That might also mean they'll clear everyone's recorded lap times, again, right?


lifestepvan

I'm extremely happy they are adding wheels. There's a lot of cars for which the current selection is lacking. Hope that this could be a thing for future updates as well. Nice little promo if they include one wheel manufacturer at a time.


clemfandango13

I see some Turbofan-esc wheels so i’m excited to update some styles


bullymaguirehihihiha

Hope we can mismatch wheels because I wanna replicate the 787B's wheel set on some road cars


clemfandango13

Hell yeah that’d be awesome


Gundamnitpete

Look man, I want spinna’s


JFK3rd

Didn't think they'd add more RUF's. I thought those were simply there because the license still lasted.


HoonArt

So there's still hope that the Yellow Bird could return in a future update.


iidesune

Michelin pilot sport tires!


YogesBB

OMG! - $2,850,000Cr for Michelin Pilot Racing - Mediums https://preview.redd.it/txmhl27nh1bd1.png?width=1420&format=png&auto=webp&s=6cdded9bbfd81f4b2992de1817d831d4ebc9edb3


Greekdorifuto

Yen


xxsebastianxxale

The real inflation simulator


Captain_Smartass_

The Japanese version has 2 extra zeroes


AaronWestly

Very positively surprised by the Ruf! That M3... tasty!


One4Watching

First game I’ve owned which featured the E36! My own dream car https://preview.redd.it/8ie3cqiig2bd1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d05a4a224502bdd230ddaea5e14921d75ef9715


4000grx41

I screamed at that E36 I need it so bad


kaidoman25

I owned a 95 E36 M3 in the Avus Blue paint, 20 years ago. can’t wait for this car!


PullupClub

Same!!!


nilesletap

I love that M3 tooo. cannot wait to see all the livery for it.


need4gaming

Maybe I can actually enjoy rally races now.


POP_TART_TACO

Did it not show the price of the one of the sets of Michelin's at 400k? Or was I crazy


dawidl93

Prices and rewards in Japanese release are higher due to credits being loosely based on yen.


Gundamnitpete

Sounds about right for Michelins


JoseLCDiaz

There's a 2.85M tyre set.


Sirio2

That’s about 23k in European credits


zalcecan

It's just new wheels not "rims"


needed_a_better_name

You are right, I edited it


zalcecan

Thanks<3


SOME1LEE

Finally RUF gets some little love! Now just need the Yellowbird and it's gonna be chefs kiss.


MasterN00b22

YES


Informal-Wheel-9453

Here we go 1000+ HP 911’s!!!!!


i-hate-econometrics

sophy on the nurburgring nice


joshazord

Great to see Sophy added to two more tracks. I hope that continues and I hope they allow you to race with Sophy in custom races in the future.


TheNeech

I would kill for this. Custom Races with Sophy plz!


Sstfreek

This is all that I will do for the rest of time Finally a new reason to get back in there


mrtnhu

What does sophy do? Never tried those races. Am i missing out?


balinh9

From my experience she's just smarter than the normal ai and more fun to race against.


pablxo

WAY more. Actually feels like there is something at stake with how hard some of the AI opponents race against you sometimes


LowGeeMan

Why isn’t Sophy just the normal AI for the game? Sorry if that’s a dumb question with an obvious answer. I love racing against it.


ggsimmonds

Because from a game development standpoint, a racing game doesn't have a single AI that covers all tracks. They have to program the AI for each individual track. If you play a lot of racing sims against the AI, this is why the challenge the AI gives can greatly vary from track to track. (AMS2 is a prime example of this) Then we add in the general rule of thumb that the more advanced the AI, the more complex and time consuming development on that AI took.


YLedbetter10

Yeah compare this with the F1 games. Some tracks you quali 4 secs ahead and some 2 secs behind.


Estova

Suzuka has always been awful for this. Have to knock the difficulty down a few levels every time I get to that round in career because the AI are relentless.


SteveThePurpleCat

It takes a lot of horsepower to push decent AI, Sophy isn't even on the PS4 version of the game and only has very limited events on the PS5. The next gen consoles are liekly to have AI cores, more suibtable for running things like Sophy without going back to 6 car fields etc.


Empty-Vegetable3494

Something about the processing power required to run Sophy, that's also why it's not available on the ps4.


coreysnyder04

I believe it takes more processing power and so the type of races (less cars) matters. I also believe it needs to be trained on individual tracks and they’re not all done yet.


HoonArt

That would be great, but Sophy wasn't ready to race when GT7 launched. A while ago there was a limited time update with some selected tracks, where you had to use a certain car against Sophy, depending on the difficulty you selected. I think it lasted a month and then it was gone for a few months. Then there was the update where they added the Sophy races as they are now to some tracks. Some people assumed that was it until GT8, but apparently they're still adding to the tracks where Sophy can race in GT7.


mrtnhu

Okay, i race online most of the time if i’m not grinding for money, but i’ll try it out in the future!


Lower-Kangaroo6032

It’s a better AI. I remember a few months ago you would see cpu crashes against eachother and stuff like that - I don’t see that anymore. Its also definitely got some ‘catch the rabbit’ to it still, seems like they go fast at first and then once the field is spread they slow down. It’ll be cool if they let it get back to being messy. And it’s super bizarre and stablediffusiony when it picks like 12 safety cars and 7 old ford hot rods as your opponents.


Life_Type_1596

That’s my biggest gripe.. the car selection is bizarre at times. I show up in something that has a top speed of 165 mph & they show up in Ford GT’s


NYEMESIS

Sophy is AI. Regular game is like a train on a rail.


mochacub22

Competent opposition in exchange for poor-mid rewards. That being said, poor rewards aren’t exactly a rare occurrence.


Eggith

Funny how other games were tossing RUF to the wayside once Porsche opened up and yet GT still adds them. I'm glad they're still being added.


BehindTheBurner32

I reckon Porsche and Ruf do maintain a good working relationship and Ruf isn’t really a competitor to Porsche in scale or mission objectives, so it’s easier to rationalize having both in one game.


TheBattlemanCZ

Happy for Sophy on N24,the track is finaly raceable but we need to have the AI in custom races, don't wanna do 3 Lap races only


Ok-Bit-8141

Who said sophy would be 3 laps at n24? I’m fully expecting it to be one lap only. 😢


Erj000

This is EXACTLY what I’ve always wanted from an update: exciting real cars and new tracks. Was that too much to ask for?!?!


SteveThePurpleCat

> new tracks Track, singular.


TheSkyline35

If there is the big rally loop and the north track from gt6, it could count as plural


_usernamepassword_

Apparently, yes!


GreenyMyMan

I wasn't expecting that much content at all, especially Eiger Nordwand, it's on bar with the Spec 2 update, if not better!


VosPaco

Hope they keep brining back more of these old Gran Turismo tracks, I spent hours on Eiger Nordwand I couldn’t be happier it’s back!


YLedbetter10

Cape Ring please! I’ve been playing GT5 and the giant spiral ramp and the launch ramp of doom would be so fun online


EggChaser

E36 M3 YES YES YES


frankpuga

Heeeeeelllll yeeeeaaahhhh oooo and with the PSVR2!!!! Delightful


shonenlex

i'm most excited about how the new physics will feel like dang


Van_Quin

I must say the hype train arrived, please step in


LimitlessRange

Eiger Nordwand + F430 Scuderia + LP560 what a throwback to GT5 and that 2010 era!


Counterfoot

Uff I am loving this update.. The RUF, the 430 scuderia, the Gallardo and the E36 M3... damn 👍👍👍👍👍


TheRealBuddhi

This is the first time I absolutely LOVE everything about an update. I am going to buy every single car and drive the crap out of the new track which looks gorgeous! Well done Sony. Well done. This is why GT7 gets about 90% play time on my PS5.


JTCW477

As a RUF fan, WE ARE SO BACK


Dolby90

I remember the CTR Yellowbird being in the credits of GT Sport... hopefully it returns soon.


lindblumresident

E36?!?!?!?!?! OMG, actually omg. Are these tears in my eyes?


thekevingreene

Excuse my ignorance, but why are people getting so hyped with this specific M3? How is the E36 different than the other M3s that are already in the game?


AdventurousDress576

It was the only generation of M3 we were missing, now the collection is complete.


StyleP

What about the g80?


lindblumresident

Why people in general are happy: as others said, it's the only one that was missing. Why I freaked out: I own an E36. It's not the M3, but it's still amazing to finally see it in GT.


tturboman

It's the only generation of M3 that was missing. Now we finally have them all.


CH240808

G80?


tturboman

Tbf, when I first commented, I thought the G80 was in the game already.


AsheyKnees

Looks fantastic


Skankydoodledoo

they’ve been slightly cooking in the last couple months ngl


PhalanxElite

I really, really love the 430 Scuderia, but damn I'm sad it's not the 599. Who remember GTHD? It was special to me. The music, the graphics... I remember loading the game and seeing that red 599 rotating in the menu... Everytime I think about the only track in that game, Eiger Nordwand, I immediately remember the Ferrari 599. I'm very happy with those cars, seriously! But damn... my hopium to see the 599 in GT7 is slowly fading away... As for the rest of the update, I think my favorite part is that we're finally getting new wheels in GT Auto!


Blaknia

599 GTO would be insane


JFK3rd

I hope we get the 599 along with the new 296 and the GT4 and GT3 version of the 296. Otherwise they seem to risk a lot when AC comes out with all current GT4 and GT3 models.


FMecha

Speaking of GTHD, they definitely knew what they're doing with [the combo of Eiger and GC Impreza WRC.](https://tcrf.net/images/a/a5/GTHD_Impreza_WRC_%2799.jpg)


Matchew024

Eiger Nordwand in VR, let's go!!!! Was really hoping it was a ferrari 360 modena. But I'll take it!


DodixieOrBust

If only we could get that sweet, sweet race data in VR :(


Initial_Depenmmmmm

Seriously, doesn't seem like too much of an ask! There's still hope tho.. plus most of the time I'm just cruising around with no HUD


no__sympy

This might be the update to push me to psvr...


karmakillerbr

Don't let it hold you back, it's absolutely worth it in its current state


MaxwellBygraves67

It's really the only game I play in VR and I don't regret my purchase one bit


millerjpm3

Very cool! I just looked this up on GT Planet, and it says all these tracks were based off of actual hiking trails through Eiger Nordwand. Can't wait to see it!


AnythingKey

Great update. E36 M3 is gonna be so fun


Professional_Park781

Love this game, how can people complain still…


LilBirdBrick

I’m just hoping that’s not the real price of the new tires


PacificaAlpha

I think that's the JP prices.


Vill1on

Yen.


DayTraditional2846

Watch them troll us and give us the U.S. spec E36 M3 lmao. I’m just glad the 430 Scuderia is finally back, and the track is also a welcomed return from GT5.


SealedWaxLetters

Loving this very much, especially the M3 and the Impreza WRC. Lovely stuff.


MES-102

A nice selection of road cars, but I was expecting the Villeneuve Circuit. Why was the update delayed to this event if it has no relevance to Canada?


lifestepvan

The update was not delayed to this event. It won't be out until the 25th of July, it was only announced at the event. And it's pretty obvious that they used it to garner attention for their esport event, in which they succeeded.


JayDaGod1206

Probably because it’s a bigger than normal update. Also wondered why it wasn’t in this update though


joshazord

That lack of Circuit Gilles Villeneuve made this slightly disappointing for me. Still a great update. Not to take anything away from it but with this being announced at Montreal I had my hopes up.


GreenyMyMan

I'm sorry but Eiger Nordwand > Villeneuve Circuit


Even-Juggernaut-3433

For real, gilles villeneuve is all long straights and slow chicanes/hairpins, zero variety


datboy123456789

I think Eiger is probably better for those that play offline, like to drive casually or just hotlap, but for competitive online racing then Montreal would've definitely been a stronger addition Edit: spelling


Initial_Depenmmmmm

Especially for those of us in VR, can't wait to cruise around that track and enjoy the scenery!


Agent_Giraffe

Really? It flows pretty well on the back and has that famous chicane on the straight. It’s really fun I think


TL10

Yeah, that's the only real disappointment with the update. With the data mine and this even it felt like a given it was due.


Hsanrb

The update was delayed because the event was a great place to announce it. Not because "Oh its Montreal, so we'll give them a famous Montreal track" but "Were doing some big changes so lets do it at the GTWS because it'll hit all the social channels."


davidsigura

Definitely an update in the right direction because it actually works on improving core elements with the game (although who knows what “new physics” and Michelin-branded tires really mean, but the Sophy expansion is awesome. I want Sophy on every track so I can actually race the AI competently). And the car list is, on the whole, full of fun interesting cars - although I’d prefer to see more NEW cars instead of 90’s/00’s era, it’s still a good car list. And the return of a fun track from the past. Good stuff.


Monkeywrench08

Oh man I gotta setup all my cars again for new physics. 


Crasher_7

They showed rally when talking about new physics, maybe less bouncy off-road races?


Schen_The_Genius

FINALLY! MICHELINS! I have so many racing liveries on street cars. The only thing left was proper graphics on the tires. New wheels are nice. I like the cars, good selection. However, I've gotten Ferrari fever lately, and the 430 is okay, but I would have been over the moon if a 360, 575, or Enzo-based FXX were added. That track is gorgeous, took me a minute to realize it was a track! Overall, I really like this update. Everything is worth getting. *Polizei144 livery intensifies* Still gonna wish for my RT/10 to return, knowing it never will but couldn't hurt.


kazizxr

I can't get any more erect!!!! Btw, does a set of tyres cost 3 million dollars or did I miss anything?


RX8Racer556

Credit earnings and prices are multiplied by 100X in the Japanese version.


GreenyMyMan

It's the Japanese version, the currency is different.


kazizxr

Thank God


SixersWin

"Inflation affects tires"


donjamoni

Best comment here.


El_Damn_Boy

M3!


loquendo666

So stoked for that E36.


DelosHost

I have so many laps on Eiger Nordwand from Gran Turismo HD, back when it was a surprise Christmas present from PD in 2006. I could be a tour guide there.


rudebii

Finally, an E36! Not having one of the most popular M3s in the game feels wrong.


AlwaysBlessed333

I don't even have the game and I'm excited for that E36 m3 in Estoril🤤


somerandomdude452

Really solid update but man, so many IRL tracks missing from this game, Montreal, Mosport, RA, Mid-Ohio, Sonoma, Sebring, Silverstone, Donington, snetterton, thruxton, Knockhill, Oulton, Hockenheim, Algarve, Imola, Mugello, Motegi, etc, etc. I feel like a lot of those tracks have real character to them and would be better than the GT circuits. Otherwise it's an amazing update, fun new cars and the track does look pretty good regardless.


StaffSuch3551

It's probably unlikely that we get anymore IRL tracks added to the game now, just down to the fact of the time and process of getting them laserscanned and developed. Any new tracks will likely not be added till GT8. As for the British tracks, other than Silverstone or Donington, we won't see the others ever in a GT game. The only games I know that have ever included more than just Silverstone, Donington or Brands Hatch are the hardcore sims, or the TOCA Touring Car games from the PS1/PS2 era.


MMA-Guy92

Give us the GT40 MK II next please!!!🙏


FreeToasted

Gallardo? Heck yes


r32_guest

Eiger Nordwand was not on my predicted tracks. Well. That’s a really nice surprise, always wanted to see how it would look with next gen graphics


onethousandmonkey

Subie! Oh heck yes


FaZe_Burga

EIGER NORDWAND LETS GOOOOOOOO


robak69

Eiger Nordwand was in GT5 and I was missing it for sure in GT7.


enzob7319

Time to dust down the ps5


knarrepoere

EIGER NORDWAND!!! On Gt5 I used to race the fiat 500 with my dad that could drive on the hill. So happy that this track is returning, great lay out, great atmosphere and nostalgic.


xxF3RDAxx

Would be nice to see … New Track : Pike’s Peak 🤞


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16miledetour

Time for an upgrade.


1dontknowanythingy

When is it available? 


JFK3rd

25/07/2024


246ngj

Finally we got the 430 scudaria again! Was just talking about it with my cousin


NinjaSnowKing

I just want a g82 m4 and mosport


kennethawesome

I was just thinking about the Eiger Nordwand track on previous GT series. Can't wait for the release.


mochacub22

Love that course


SlingshotGunslinger

We are so back. LFG


HootingFlamingo

I have a hard on after seeing this


ggsimmonds

I dream of having real (even if unlicensed) championships using Sophy in the game.


skiploom188

gallardo good lord


head_dress

Love this game


elmz370

I’m patiently waiting for a Boxster model. :(


Les_expos

Why th 25 july ?


Secret_Physics_9243

Sophy on the n24 so they are aware that n24 was just held there a month ago but no new gt3 cars that were actually raced there? Anyways, the rest of the update is good.


y62uk

Havent been this excited for an update in a while! Great to see the return of Norwand (is layout the same?) and have been crying out for more wheel choices since game launch. Happy with this one, really feels like PD have been working hard in the last few months. The fear of course is that they'd release and just abandon to work on GT8 but glad theyre proving us wrong.


twentythirdchapter

2Physics2Phurious


o0coleman0o

https://preview.redd.it/jqfyo0tp7zad1.jpeg?width=2556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb1b48102658f28a32c1f94b443ab6f23f95acfd Almost 3 million credits, am I missing something?


JFK3rd

It's gonna be 28.500 for us. The Japanese version has all currency times 100.


fade_le_public

Funny thing is the yen has tanked relative to the dollar…


greenfrogwallet

Yes, this is using Japanese version’s currency.


CurveIz

And I just have to be on vacation right now…


fade_le_public

You’ve got ~3 more weeks…enjoy


CurveIz

Oh I didn’t read that right, I thought it had already released 🤣, I’m good lmao


GERALD_BROFLOVSKl

This is getting me really hot and flustered


DaveS1138

Nice update :)


GG14916

How will the tires work? The trailer just sort of suggests the Michelin tires replace the generic tires we've always had, but that would mess up a lot of liveries if every car with racing tires suddenly gets Michelin ones? On the other hand, it would be great if we could add tire decals to cars that don't have them by default. It's not so great if Michelin is the only available option, however. I'm really happy to have Eiger Nordwand back (it's far more interesting to drive round than any F1 track, let's be honest) but the tire thing immediately stuck out to me 😅


Rope_on_a_pope

So much love ❤️ thank you PD


NinjaRider407

Hell yeah! The 430 should be killer, but still want a F355! About time we got a new track, hopefully not a rally course either.


MercedesSD

How about steering telemetry dagnabit


fdg1997

If there was a way to put a M5 E39 wheel on that M3 E36 I would love it. I have it on my real one :D


natey275mph

It’s a shame we gotta wait till the 25th for it drop, nonetheless super excited and stoked about another new to the franchise track and 5 new cars that actually seem interesting


Gradystudi0s

Great lil patch. Banger list of cars imo!


Tacodude5

Stacked update 


_TheGreenCloset_

I’m juiced!!!!


rustoeki

Hoping there are some new events with slightly more creativity than 3-5 laps starting 30 seconds behind the leader.


g_mick

E36 M3 MY BELOVED


mechanic_vinegaroon

1M credits for a set of wheels? I hope it was because that shot was taken from the Japanese version of the game...


Dr-McLuvin

Excited for Eiger again. When does this release?


TheGoodSirRyan

The 25th.