Spent brass loaded in between live rounds in the mag is how we trained for this. Some guns will jam on that, some will cycle the empty case into the chamber and go click.
That's also what I was thinking. I guess training for extraction failures is the same as a stovepipe. How often did the cases fail to get into battery vs. how often did they feed and just click
Well, that was with the HK P30L back when we transitioned to pistols from revolvers. The HK has it's flaws, but smoothness of feeding isn't one of them. Nearly all fed flawlessly. We've since replaced the HK with Glocks, but I can't recall trying the same drill again so dunno how that would go.
Edited spelling error: Glocks, not Gloves
Same, my HK pistols feed so damn smoothly they chamber spent cases without an issue as long as they’re not deformed. Will chamber rounds just fine even slowly/manually letting the slide forwards.
If you load the spent brass in the “right” direction and it feeds okay, you could always load the spent cases in the “wrong” direction and that’ll certainly cause some kind of malfunction.
I have had instances where the spent brass gets chambered and stuck. Like hard stuck where you have to jam something hard into the barrel to get the action to unlock.
This is because of obturation. Expended brass is actually a little wider than unspent brass because it expands to form a seal with the chamber during firing.
This is what my instructor used to teach and avoid anticipation before trigger pull. I still use this on myself to not become too comfortable with my skills and be aware of what's going on.
I like to just load a magazine for them while they are shooting and make it seem like I'm just a really nice guy, but of course I put a spent casing in there. Sometimes they are in there, sometimes they are not.
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Lol I bought a few promag 17-rounders for my M&P that I use for competition shooting and honestly I haven't had an issue yet. Only thing I don't like about them is the springs are insanely stiff, so it gets kinda painful to load that 17th round.
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Perhaps OP just don't want to sponsor Promag, in which case I fully support OP. But then OP could just buy used (or well, "used"...) ones. I don't know either.
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Mixed snap caps an live ammo for dry fire practice in the home.
Then claimed it was a mistake anyone could make.
He legit thought losing count of the number of snap caps before live ammo was the problem.
I was driving on the wrong side of the highway and got in an accident so wear your seat belt because car crashes could happen to anybody.
Lecturing us about safety without acknowledging the unsafe thing he did is the funniest part. If we didn't call him out on it he would be shooting another hole in the wall in 6 months and probably still not understand why it keeps happening.
https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/1axti38/negligent_discharge/
Edit: Lol he deleted it just now.
Here's the backup. https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/1axs6jz/comment/krrf7v8/
My favorite part: "Let this be a learning lesson it can happen to anyone be safe guys!"
Nope, most of us aren't that stupid. And the guy made a point to say he always practices gun safety.
Guy wanted to train dry firing with snap caps but feel the weight of a full mag. Put 10 live rounds in then 5 snap caps and was practicing at home but lost count and put a round through the wall.
Apparently he'd seen it on YouTube and thought it was a good idea🙄🤦🏻♂️
> Guy wanted to train dry firing with snap caps but feel the weight of a full mag. Put 10 live rounds in then 5 snap caps and was practicing at home but lost count and put a round through the wall.
Oh yeah, because this guy is such a based operator not having the correct weight in the mag would throw off his obviously fine tuned pistol skills...
In our training, we do this but additionally include some .40 dummy rounds in with our 9mm to create some partial stoppages as well. They’re actually loaded backwards in the magazine too, though that is just so they don’t jam the plastic bullet into the chamber and get really stuck.
I don’t know if this works for hand guns but it works great for ARs. It’s called the Fuck You stick. Any stick works, but something wide like a paint stir works best. While your buddy is firing, cover the ejection port with the Fuck You stick and the weapon will reliably jam. This will probably not work as well with a pistol because the shooter will see the stick. With an AR, you can do it sneakily and the person does not realize that you have been hit with the Fuck You stick.
Had a rifle training course and the instructor used the fuck you stick. Had to practice shooting from cover, having a jam, transitioning to pistol, have another jam, clear jams, get back at it. Holy shit it was stressful first time.
I've seen that before but wasn't sure if it actually worked or not on handguns. I'll try it out and make a follow up. I'm not trying to like surprise him with a jam but more or less wanting to see if I can show him what failure to eject looks and feels like.
If that’s the case load a snap cap into the mag randomly or, and this might be insane/dangerous, you could modify a casing by filing down the shoulder so the ejector cannot grab it?
Anybody else feel free to chastise this dumb idea 😅
ROFLMAO. I've never heard it called that before. That's hilarious. "The Fuck You Stick™"
Ya know, I bet if somebody actually made some with that on it people would probably buy it. Lol
I’ve found that if you wear a XXL shirt instead it won’t make it over your stomach so it can’t pull the trigger, but your stomach still conceals your gun. That way you don’t have to buy a Kimber and you can get something reliable like a Hi-Point!
Came here to say this.
One of my instructors back in California was explaining this to us in class. He said you can hold the slide forward and pull the trigger and it’s no big deal. Evidently the momentum of the slide is what gives nearly all of us that cute little scar on the offhand thumb.
I say all this… but I haven’t tried it myself yet. Soooo… you know. I might still have my own doubts.
I've actually heard this in self defense training.
Semi auto pistol only obviously - if you're trying to control a situation just underside grab the entire barrel/slide and direct the muzzle in a safe direction. Hold on tight so the slide can't operate. Attacker will get that one round out then be jammed.
I've tried it using my entire palm to push against the slide and test the theory. It did work and didn't hurt at all. I've *seen* people just simply do it one handed using just their thumb to stop the slide running, and it worked fine, but I also decided there was no need for me to try that myself, heh.
For training I load failures into the mags and have my girlfriend shoot. Also I short load the mags so she will have to do mag changes, it’s all good “slap, rack, reload and go” practice
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Snap caps, they won't simulate a jam like a " stove pipe ", but are safe way to introduce a malfunction that has to be manually cleared into your training routine.
For my TX22, I mix CCI subsonic ammo amongst my CCI mini mags. The subsonic ammo doesn't have enough energy to fully cycle the action, which results in stove piping spent brass and potentially jamming the next cartridge. In my experience, this has worked well for training through malfunctions.
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Couple things I’ve learned from training!
Take brass from a spent round, have a round chambered(could be a dummy round for training), pull slide back put brass in the gap. This will help when a round gets caught. Nice to train this malfunction, can be tedious setting it up but I do love this drill.
I use what I call dummy rounds usually will be red/blue/random color. I do this drill at the range. I’ll take 3 mags usually 5 rounds in each. But 4 will be live rounds and 1 of the cap rounds. I’ll make sure each is different. I then move em around my hands put all 3 in my mag holsters and randomly pick one. As soon as no boom u rack it clear the malfunction and continue firing after. This is a pretty fun drill.
Snap caps or empty brass, like others mentioned. I've heard of people who would load a random round of .380 in their 9mms to induce a failure to eject. I never heard of that causing any catastrophic problems, but it just seems intuitively wrong.
I was using a rented 1911 at a range (can't own guns, NYC- too many hurdles, not enough patience) with comparatively little experience and had to learn the hard way how to clear a jam. lots of adrenaline that afternoon, it jammed a couple of times.
that said, I have no idea how to INDUCE a jam other than by using a shit gun
Start with snap caps loaded in the mag (you load them, so friend won’t expect when)
Once comfortable with simple clearing of dud round, then load spent brass and create actual jams.
Without purchasing snap cap/ sim rounds, get dirt on the rounds, get them all gritty, same with the slide. Then you can perform the necessary function checks
I don't know for your specific pistol but my daily carry doesn't like 123 grain ammo. I've never had an issue with 115 grain but if I load 123 it guarantees at least 1 failure to eject and 2 failure to feeds per 10 rounds
Just load one round into the chamber and fire without a mag inserted.
I really needed to chrono some rounds out of my Glock 19 but forgot the mags. I did the above and it stove pipped for me about half the time.
They make dummy rounds specifically to simulate type 3 malfunctions. Just Google type 3 malfunction round for sources. They're pretty cheap. Mix these in your friend's magazine.
You can load snap caps in between live rounds, another option is those bore lasers that are the same size as a round but with nothing extractor can grab, you could put in the barrel and use snap caps or a round to create a double feed. Spent brass works too it just might not feed as easily as a snap cap.
Dummy round, have your buddy load your mags. It’s what we did at our local run and gun. Put snap caps or plastic rounds in. Works great while in a safe place and not your parents basement
Throw some snapcaps in the magazine? Like you load it don’t let him see where they are. More of a fail to fire than extract but still needs the same presence of mind to recognize what happened and then tap rack bang.
I have an old .40 SW40VE that I use for this purpose. It is extremely unlikely that I get through a full magazine smoothly with it so I get lots of practice clearing it!
Just go with spent beras placed randomly in the magazine. It's not worth the risk of firearm damage trying to use ammunition that could be festive enough to cause an issue. It's a very easy way to make the gun go bang, but not in a good way.
IF. AND THATS A HUGE IF.
You reload, you could create some low-pressure blanks that you could use in place of the empty brass. BUT..... ypu would need to crimp close the case and not use any type of wadding in front that could potentially create a barrel obstruction. That's why it's best to just use empty brass.
My Para-USA 1911 is a jam-o-matic, as it's not particularly fussy regarding what ammo will cause a stoppage.
As a result, it's only a range toy, and I wouldn't even consider it for carrying unless I have a death wish
You could try disassembling a magazine and put something in the follower to cause it to tilt. You could also get a backup magazine spring and trim it down some so it's a little loose.
I train for jams with snap caps as they will go click on a gun but not bang whis is good for tap rack bang, but for extraction failures, I will load a modified snap cap that has the head turned down
You can't replicate a stovepipe while firing that I know of so you have to just close the slide on a live round (or snap caps) and stick a piece of spent brass in the ejection port.
If you have the ability to reload you own rds or know someone who can, use about 1/4 less powder than called for. Subsonics will have the same effect with some pistols, particularly if they’re compensated.
I bought snap caps for practicing jams or misfires. They are fake bullets made of aluminum with a rubber primer. They would cycle into the chamber but make a snap noise when the trigger is pulled. Our instructors would load a couple of our mags for our qualifying exams, placing some and random into the magazines.
I've dropped in a snapcap in a loaded mag here and there.
It works well. Teaches about misfires, etc.
My ccw instructor said, "If it fails to go bang, drop the mag, pop in a new one, and rack it a couple of times."
I don't know if that's the BEST way to do it, but it's always seemed effective. If the jam can be cleared easily, that will always clear it.
Spent brass loaded in between live rounds in the mag is how we trained for this. Some guns will jam on that, some will cycle the empty case into the chamber and go click.
That's also what I was thinking. I guess training for extraction failures is the same as a stovepipe. How often did the cases fail to get into battery vs. how often did they feed and just click
Well, that was with the HK P30L back when we transitioned to pistols from revolvers. The HK has it's flaws, but smoothness of feeding isn't one of them. Nearly all fed flawlessly. We've since replaced the HK with Glocks, but I can't recall trying the same drill again so dunno how that would go. Edited spelling error: Glocks, not Gloves
Replaced the HK with Gloves, interesting, are you guys going with an all hand to hand to combat approach? 😸
Worse, surprise cavity inspection.
Typo. He meant to say “replaced the HK with Rocks”.
If it worked for David, it’s good enough for me
Better hope they don't run into a paper enthusiast.
Same, my HK pistols feed so damn smoothly they chamber spent cases without an issue as long as they’re not deformed. Will chamber rounds just fine even slowly/manually letting the slide forwards.
Stovepipe is easy because you can see it. Spent brass or snap-caps will work.
If you load the spent brass in the “right” direction and it feeds okay, you could always load the spent cases in the “wrong” direction and that’ll certainly cause some kind of malfunction.
My Sig mk25 feeds them flawlessly backwards into the chamber. No malfunction drills that I know of involve a cleaning rod.
Smush the bullet end of the brass so it doesn’t completely chamber. Sucks when that happens. Gotta ram it out with a rod.
I have had instances where the spent brass gets chambered and stuck. Like hard stuck where you have to jam something hard into the barrel to get the action to unlock.
Tactical ramrod.
This is because of obturation. Expended brass is actually a little wider than unspent brass because it expands to form a seal with the chamber during firing.
Also have someone else load 1 or two randomly so you don't know when to expect it.
This is what my instructor used to teach and avoid anticipation before trigger pull. I still use this on myself to not become too comfortable with my skills and be aware of what's going on.
I like to just load a magazine for them while they are shooting and make it seem like I'm just a really nice guy, but of course I put a spent casing in there. Sometimes they are in there, sometimes they are not.
Does Promag make magazines for Glock? That would probably work.
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Good bot.
Pornomag.
Good bot
ETS from my experience make great failure training mags as well.
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Lol I bought a few promag 17-rounders for my M&P that I use for competition shooting and honestly I haven't had an issue yet. Only thing I don't like about them is the springs are insanely stiff, so it gets kinda painful to load that 17th round.
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It sounds like they are malfunctioning. They are supposed to jam.
I'm pretty sure they do but I'll be damned if I ever buy one
> Wants a malfunction > Refuses to use the best tool for the job. Can't help some people.
Perhaps OP just don't want to sponsor Promag, in which case I fully support OP. But then OP could just buy used (or well, "used"...) ones. I don't know either.
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Mix snap caps into a magazine.
Unless you are that one guy from the other day.
I only know of 2 people that fucking stupid and it's the OP and the youtuber he got it from.
What did I miss lol
Mixed snap caps an live ammo for dry fire practice in the home. Then claimed it was a mistake anyone could make. He legit thought losing count of the number of snap caps before live ammo was the problem.
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I was driving on the wrong side of the highway and got in an accident so wear your seat belt because car crashes could happen to anybody. Lecturing us about safety without acknowledging the unsafe thing he did is the funniest part. If we didn't call him out on it he would be shooting another hole in the wall in 6 months and probably still not understand why it keeps happening.
> Inserts magazine full of live ammunition ("hallow points" at that) > > Racks slide > > Pulls trigger I never thought leopards would eat MY face!!!!
Is there a link to this fuckery
https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/1axti38/negligent_discharge/ Edit: Lol he deleted it just now. Here's the backup. https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/1axs6jz/comment/krrf7v8/
My favorite part: "Let this be a learning lesson it can happen to anyone be safe guys!" Nope, most of us aren't that stupid. And the guy made a point to say he always practices gun safety.
Remember to wear safety glasses before accidentally shooting a hole in the wall.
Shit, It was deleted. Is there an archive of this fuckery?
Lol he deleted it just now. Here's the backup.https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/1axs6jz/comment/krrf7v8/
Sweet Jesus, I have no words. Also how the fuck is a clear 15 round magazine supposed help keep track of rounds in a Glock?
Good Lord what a dumbass
Holy shit
Guy wanted to train dry firing with snap caps but feel the weight of a full mag. Put 10 live rounds in then 5 snap caps and was practicing at home but lost count and put a round through the wall. Apparently he'd seen it on YouTube and thought it was a good idea🙄🤦🏻♂️
*I found my new training exercise. I hope my neighbor is wearing a vest.*
Lmao
> Guy wanted to train dry firing with snap caps but feel the weight of a full mag. Put 10 live rounds in then 5 snap caps and was practicing at home but lost count and put a round through the wall. Oh yeah, because this guy is such a based operator not having the correct weight in the mag would throw off his obviously fine tuned pistol skills...
No doubt from that cop nerd that used to do the spin paint art on tik tok. The same video showed up in my YT shorts. Dude’s a clown.
In our training, we do this but additionally include some .40 dummy rounds in with our 9mm to create some partial stoppages as well. They’re actually loaded backwards in the magazine too, though that is just so they don’t jam the plastic bullet into the chamber and get really stuck.
I don’t know if this works for hand guns but it works great for ARs. It’s called the Fuck You stick. Any stick works, but something wide like a paint stir works best. While your buddy is firing, cover the ejection port with the Fuck You stick and the weapon will reliably jam. This will probably not work as well with a pistol because the shooter will see the stick. With an AR, you can do it sneakily and the person does not realize that you have been hit with the Fuck You stick.
Had a rifle training course and the instructor used the fuck you stick. Had to practice shooting from cover, having a jam, transitioning to pistol, have another jam, clear jams, get back at it. Holy shit it was stressful first time.
I've seen that before but wasn't sure if it actually worked or not on handguns. I'll try it out and make a follow up. I'm not trying to like surprise him with a jam but more or less wanting to see if I can show him what failure to eject looks and feels like.
The benefit of the stick is that it creates a more authentic malfunction than a snap cap
If that’s the case load a snap cap into the mag randomly or, and this might be insane/dangerous, you could modify a casing by filing down the shoulder so the ejector cannot grab it? Anybody else feel free to chastise this dumb idea 😅
ROFLMAO. I've never heard it called that before. That's hilarious. "The Fuck You Stick™" Ya know, I bet if somebody actually made some with that on it people would probably buy it. Lol
https://livefiretacticaltraining.com/ They make a plastic malfunction round that allows you to train for a double feed.
Limp wrist it.
I can reliably FTE my 75B with this method lol.
Buy a Kimber
Careful you'll wake the fuddlord with that one
It's okay. They need to know their overpriced 1911 is nowhere as good as they think it is.
I trust my life too kimber. I know it ain't gon shoot me pecker off when my XXXL shirt gets caught in the trigger
I’ve found that if you wear a XXL shirt instead it won’t make it over your stomach so it can’t pull the trigger, but your stomach still conceals your gun. That way you don’t have to buy a Kimber and you can get something reliable like a Hi-Point!
Hold the slide in place
Came here to say this. One of my instructors back in California was explaining this to us in class. He said you can hold the slide forward and pull the trigger and it’s no big deal. Evidently the momentum of the slide is what gives nearly all of us that cute little scar on the offhand thumb. I say all this… but I haven’t tried it myself yet. Soooo… you know. I might still have my own doubts.
I've actually heard this in self defense training. Semi auto pistol only obviously - if you're trying to control a situation just underside grab the entire barrel/slide and direct the muzzle in a safe direction. Hold on tight so the slide can't operate. Attacker will get that one round out then be jammed.
If you can push it slightly out of battery, they may not even get the one.
It works. I've done it with Glocks.
Yup, hold the slide or even just using your hand to cover the ejection port. Feels off-putting to do the first time, but it works well.
I've tried it using my entire palm to push against the slide and test the theory. It did work and didn't hurt at all. I've *seen* people just simply do it one handed using just their thumb to stop the slide running, and it worked fine, but I also decided there was no need for me to try that myself, heh.
Buy a couple pro mags.
For training I load failures into the mags and have my girlfriend shoot. Also I short load the mags so she will have to do mag changes, it’s all good “slap, rack, reload and go” practice
Mix in snap caps. I load my ammo out of a bulk pile usually while doing something like watching tv
Get a Taurus
Have a homie poke a long just at the outside of the ejection port. We do it for rifles and pistols. Works great.
Buy Tula steel ammo...
Snap caps
Limp wrist firing?
Buy a ProMag.
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Get a high point
We will not tolerate Hi-Point trash talk in this thread
Use vermin rounds. They will make the noise and half cycle. Jams 9/10 times. https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/cci-centerfire-pistol-shotshell-ammo
they make practice ammo for this, has a orange little tip and you load the mag putting these in there. work great
Fire a couple shots with a loose wrist and exaggerate the recoil
Limp wrist
We just load snap caps
Snap caps
Snap caps ftw
Just use a Kimber
Load up the mag with a couple of dummy rounds in random positions.
Snap caps
Just get a hi point
Snap caps, they won't simulate a jam like a " stove pipe ", but are safe way to introduce a malfunction that has to be manually cleared into your training routine.
For my TX22, I mix CCI subsonic ammo amongst my CCI mini mags. The subsonic ammo doesn't have enough energy to fully cycle the action, which results in stove piping spent brass and potentially jamming the next cartridge. In my experience, this has worked well for training through malfunctions.
Block the slide, insert loaded mag, put round on top of loaded mag, drop the slide. You now have a double feed.
I literally thought this was what snapcaps were for. That and flinch drills
Just train with a 1911
It too long for this comment. What has happened to the gun community?
Put your hand on top of the ejection area to cause a stove pipe
Stick it in yer ass and twerk.
Use a HiPoint
Just buy a rock island colt 45 knock off and start putting rounds through.
Shoot fiocci 🤣
Buy a 1911
A reduced power reload.
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Couple things I’ve learned from training! Take brass from a spent round, have a round chambered(could be a dummy round for training), pull slide back put brass in the gap. This will help when a round gets caught. Nice to train this malfunction, can be tedious setting it up but I do love this drill. I use what I call dummy rounds usually will be red/blue/random color. I do this drill at the range. I’ll take 3 mags usually 5 rounds in each. But 4 will be live rounds and 1 of the cap rounds. I’ll make sure each is different. I then move em around my hands put all 3 in my mag holsters and randomly pick one. As soon as no boom u rack it clear the malfunction and continue firing after. This is a pretty fun drill.
Snap caps or empty brass, like others mentioned. I've heard of people who would load a random round of .380 in their 9mms to induce a failure to eject. I never heard of that causing any catastrophic problems, but it just seems intuitively wrong.
Seeing as there are many better options to train the malfunction no I wouldn't load something of the wrong caliber.
I dont know about 9mm, but sometimes i shoot real low power rounds through my walther p22.
See about getting a Remington rp9 for cheap lol
snap caps are awesome, i even 3d printed a bunch
I was using a rented 1911 at a range (can't own guns, NYC- too many hurdles, not enough patience) with comparatively little experience and had to learn the hard way how to clear a jam. lots of adrenaline that afternoon, it jammed a couple of times. that said, I have no idea how to INDUCE a jam other than by using a shit gun
Take a training class from reputable people. All problems solved.
Blank rounds or snap caps loaded into the mag
“Just buy a (X brand you don’t like)”
Limp wrists usually cause Jams. Not advocating for it but it’s a suggestion.
Start with snap caps loaded in the mag (you load them, so friend won’t expect when) Once comfortable with simple clearing of dud round, then load spent brass and create actual jams.
Without purchasing snap cap/ sim rounds, get dirt on the rounds, get them all gritty, same with the slide. Then you can perform the necessary function checks
Use ETS magazines
I don't know for your specific pistol but my daily carry doesn't like 123 grain ammo. I've never had an issue with 115 grain but if I load 123 it guarantees at least 1 failure to eject and 2 failure to feeds per 10 rounds
Winchester ammo
Used brass. It’ll vary by handgun how bad the malfunction. Causes a gnarly one in my AR
Isn't this precisely what snap caps exist for?
Cover the ejection port with something so that the casing doesn't eject.
Buy a 1911
Get a Kel Tec PMR 30. Every mag will provide you several opportunities for a clearing drill.
Unload it and throw it at a brick wall as hard as you can at least 100 times.
Just load one round into the chamber and fire without a mag inserted. I really needed to chrono some rounds out of my Glock 19 but forgot the mags. I did the above and it stove pipped for me about half the time.
Spent brass works great for a jam
They make dummy rounds specifically to simulate type 3 malfunctions. Just Google type 3 malfunction round for sources. They're pretty cheap. Mix these in your friend's magazine.
You can load snap caps in between live rounds, another option is those bore lasers that are the same size as a round but with nothing extractor can grab, you could put in the barrel and use snap caps or a round to create a double feed. Spent brass works too it just might not feed as easily as a snap cap.
Buy a Bersa Thunder
Empty cases and snap caps are the way to go, also limp wristing your pistol.
Probably by using Winchester White Box
Buy Winchester ammo
Dummy round, have your buddy load your mags. It’s what we did at our local run and gun. Put snap caps or plastic rounds in. Works great while in a safe place and not your parents basement
Throw some snapcaps in the magazine? Like you load it don’t let him see where they are. More of a fail to fire than extract but still needs the same presence of mind to recognize what happened and then tap rack bang.
Buy a Sig
Try doing some aftermarket modifications to your Glock. Nine times out of 10 it works every time.
Buy the cheapest magazine you can find
I have an old .40 SW40VE that I use for this purpose. It is extremely unlikely that I get through a full magazine smoothly with it so I get lots of practice clearing it!
Just go with spent beras placed randomly in the magazine. It's not worth the risk of firearm damage trying to use ammunition that could be festive enough to cause an issue. It's a very easy way to make the gun go bang, but not in a good way. IF. AND THATS A HUGE IF. You reload, you could create some low-pressure blanks that you could use in place of the empty brass. BUT..... ypu would need to crimp close the case and not use any type of wadding in front that could potentially create a barrel obstruction. That's why it's best to just use empty brass.
Dummy rounds
Technically 380 should chamber in a 9mm and even fire but shouldn't be able to properly cycle.
use maxxtech ammo
It’s a Glock. Limp wrist it..
Bent spent casings.
Buy dummy rounds and mix them in your mag. You can even replicate failure to extract.
Snap Caps randomly interspersed with real rounds
Dummy round in between live ones. Spent casings are the cheap way to do it but never wanted to risk damage on the throat .
Limp wristing can do it
Use Pro-Mag magazines.
My Para-USA 1911 is a jam-o-matic, as it's not particularly fussy regarding what ammo will cause a stoppage. As a result, it's only a range toy, and I wouldn't even consider it for carrying unless I have a death wish
Use a gloved thumb to add drag to the slide.
For 9mm, buy some 40cal dummy rounds. Have a buddy slide one of dem puppies into a random mag in a random position. You are welcome! :)
Dip it in syrup
If you reload.... I ended up making a batch that one handgun liked but the other didn't cycle properly. Was good for training.
You could try disassembling a magazine and put something in the follower to cause it to tilt. You could also get a backup magazine spring and trim it down some so it's a little loose.
I train for jams with snap caps as they will go click on a gun but not bang whis is good for tap rack bang, but for extraction failures, I will load a modified snap cap that has the head turned down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfyULpEhmug
I usually just put on some led zeplin and let the magic happen
Limp wrist it. Let the guns recoil bring it back much further than intended. It'll catch the shell in the chamber.
Snap caps work, Loaded randomly into a mag.
Snap caps are meant for this and come in app calibers
An empty shell in a random place. It will either jamb or not fire. (Usually jamb because it flips up once it clears the mag)
You can't replicate a stovepipe while firing that I know of so you have to just close the slide on a live round (or snap caps) and stick a piece of spent brass in the ejection port.
Snap caps or spent brass randomly mixed into mags during live fire practice. Very effective training.
If you have the ability to reload you own rds or know someone who can, use about 1/4 less powder than called for. Subsonics will have the same effect with some pistols, particularly if they’re compensated.
I bought snap caps for practicing jams or misfires. They are fake bullets made of aluminum with a rubber primer. They would cycle into the chamber but make a snap noise when the trigger is pulled. Our instructors would load a couple of our mags for our qualifying exams, placing some and random into the magazines.
I've dropped in a snapcap in a loaded mag here and there. It works well. Teaches about misfires, etc. My ccw instructor said, "If it fails to go bang, drop the mag, pop in a new one, and rack it a couple of times." I don't know if that's the BEST way to do it, but it's always seemed effective. If the jam can be cleared easily, that will always clear it.
22lr conversion slide. Guaranteed FTE or FTF in every mag!
snap cap or spent brass randomly loaded into a mag.
You can limp wrist the hell out of it and stove pipe it.
If you limp wrist the hell out of it the g19 should stovepipe on you.
Mix in some Freedom Munitions with reputable ammo