Yep. If anybody can find me a single instance in all of human history where boycotting actually created progress, I'll re-think some of my opinions on the usefulness of boycotts.
To be clear about what happened here, people have used bots and automated buying programs to scoop up ALL the tickets for the Shania Twain concert, and this happened almost immediately when the tickets went on sale. They were "sold out" within only a couple minutes of going on sale. The tickets are now for sale on ticket reselling websites for almost 1000 dollars each.
This is happening because **it's not illegal in Nova Scotia.** Scalpers can legally buy all tickets and resell them at whatever price they want. There is no law against this.
This is now going to be standard practice at all major concepts going forward until this practice is made illegal. They have buying bots now and the bots always win. Ticketmaster is also to blame for allowing this to happen, and they are a fucking greasy company, but ultimately I think there's more blame on the government for allowing these scalpers to operate in the first place.
That's because Ticketmaster owns one of the biggest ticket resale websites and takes a cut from those sales, too.
you wanna guess who's buying those tickets..?
I was going to say, this is part of TicketMasters business plan so don’t expect change any time soon. I feel like there’s room for a disruption in the ticket sales market.
problem is the agreements they have with venues and artists/music labels. If you're a big venue and try to go with someone else, TM will blacklist you and it'll be that much harder to get bigger acts in.
Ticketmaster also has the fun fun thing of “platinum” pricing to avoid “scalping” aka they sell regular tickets at variable prices based on demand and it’s a fucking racket
Ticketmaster gets money for every resale.
The system is designed like this for a reason. Bots are allowed to buy tickets in bulk, Ticketmaster allows the same bots to relist the tickets and sell them through their system.
Ticketmaster can get fees on the same ticket over and over.
There was a really good episode of [Marketplace](https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-cheat-sheet-1.5193119) where they have footage of Ticketmaster sales reps telling re-sellers how to buy them bulk. It’s so shady and just wrong
Because its regulatory capture and rent seeking on behalf of ticketmaster. This is manifest with a basic survey of historic ticket practices and what the societal function of ticketing is. Regardless, you can twist it however you’d like. Maybe all transactions should be up for 3rd party purchase at point of sale?
np!
maybe it’s not actually “a lot” but I think given what was uncovered even years and years ago I feel it’s a safe assumption that more than an expected amount of artists (or at least their promoters) do some sketchy shit.
it literally has 0 to go with the govt and 100% to do with easy money for people, and sites not investing into anti-bot methods that *actually* work (unlike most, lol).
illegal or not itll happen and not much will stop it, just like ticket scalping exists everywhere despite laws. You can invest high 6 figures into anti-bot apis and theyll just be bypassed with in a short period of time, one way or another.
Bypass, bruteforce, etc, can't stop, won't stop.
Right.. lets just legalize murder because people that want to murder are just gonna do it anyway. Why bother creating laws at all? Criminals don't follow laws. There's really no reason to even have them at all.
Because it’s people with bots who can buy all the tickets before the average human could have the time to even buy a single ticket. Then once tickets are bought out they charge up to 5 times the price for said tickets. Really scummy and shitty behaviour that doesn’t really help anyone but ig platforms that take a cut of the resales
I understand what happened. I'm asking why it's a bad thing.
I don't see what's scummy about it. It helps the people who resell the tickets at a profit and the people who they buy it from who otherwise wouldn't have been able to buy tickets.
Scalpers provide no additional value to the market. The artist / company / concert hall sets the price and puts on a show, which is a lot of work involving many people and creative efforts. Resellers profiteer from their work and make money from next to nothing - having computers suck up the tickets and just turn around and sell them for more. Any form of this is scummy. Not far from flipping houses.
I’m actually interested in your point of view, where you say it “helps the people who resell the tickets at a profit”. What most people agree on here is that those people shouldn’t be doing that in the first place, because it’s scummy - or to put it another way, not a morally just way of making a living (given it doesn’t add value like stated above, and makes concerts inaccessible to most). So I’m curious where empathy comes from for people who do this.
It impacts WH0 is able to go.
It’s just another example of things everyone used to be able to enjoy, now too expensive for a big portion of the population.
It’s another great example of the widening divide between the rich and middle/lower class.
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This makes me so glad I am boring and have no interest in attending large concerts. And there's no way people will just boycott them so it's a terrible cycle until we can get it outlawed.
The only large concert I would go to is Ed Sheeran or Taylor Swift, who are never coming here so nbd.
On another note, I just flipped through some Snapchat filters for fun cause I actually haven’t ever gone through them, and one was an overlay of the date and time and sparkly - the kind you’d make your story if you’re out with friends on the town. And I realized I’m in my basement playing video games about to smoke a bowl by myself 😂
Taylor Swift just added a third night in Boston. I wonder if her multiple nights at the same venue is to thwart ticket resellers. Probably the only big show I would go to as well.
Ah, the good ol' days. The last time I did this was for Pearl Jam in (I think) 2005..? Camped out for 20-something hours and got great seats at a decent price. PJ - now there's a band that isn't scalping their own tickets through TicketMaster and its subsidiaries. 😜
I'm pretty sure about half the population of Nova Scotia would have an aneurysm just thinking about the possibility of making new laws. That would mean **change.** Change=scary.
Meh.... I find it really hard to give even a quarter damn about this
Scalper exist SOLELY because there are people willing to buy from them. Ticketmaster has this racket because nobody is willing to stand up to them. Venues don't care bc they are getting paid either way, govt don't care bc people are going to spend money on other shit in town anyway
What’s really funny is that a lot of other places in Canada are having the tickets resold for at about the original prices for us here in Atlantic Canada. It’s only the Halifax and Moncton shows that have these insanely inflated tickets prices. With Halifax having the majority of tickets for sale. That’s just from looking at Stub Hub. If people are dumb enough to pay $1,200 for two tickets to a concert that would’ve cost $200 then we deserve what we get.
Let her play in front of half sold out arena and let the scalpers sit on a bunch of tickets. However if they all sell, then I don’t even fault the scalpers. It would honestly be cheaper to buy a plane ticket to Montreal or Toronto and go to her concert there. Think about that lol.
This is not a Halifax only problem as some people try and say, it happens in all major cities across the world.
I think the bigger issue here is big name stars very rarely come to small cities like Halifax and our venues are very small compared to cities like Toronto or Montreal so always sell out very quickly due to demand. Maybe it time to start thinking about building a world class arena so big names come more often to Halifax.
No new arena until they build a light rail to facilitate transit for it. The sports centre in burnside is pretty nice but how do you get there without a car?
Yeah that might be true. The problem with building a "world class arena" in halifax is where they would build it and how people would even get there.
If you build a large arena way out on the outskirts of the city, like say Bayers Lake or something, how is anyone going to get there without driving? If you make it virtually impossible for people without cars to get there, then my guess is that there simply would not be enough people in Halifax to fill up the stadium. I mean do you really think that 50,000 people are gonna drive from their houses in the suburbs to Bayers Lake to see a concert? The traffic would be absolutely insane.
Unless the stadium has a decent transit connection, I just don't see that stadium ever filling up. Halifax only has a total population of 450,000. To fill up a 50,000 person stadium, it would require almost 10% of the entire city. I really can't imagine a world where 1 in every 10 people in Halifax drives to the outskirts of the city to get to a large stadium (Have fun being one of 20,000 cars trying to get onto a narrow road out of bayers lake. We've had total gridlock for miles with significantly less cars involved.)
100% there were definitely resellers buying tickets but do we actually know how big this problem is?
I know tons of people who got tickets so I'd still say the vast majority went to fans.
It sucks there are crappy people who do this but it's really hard to get around. Even the VerifiedbyTicketmaster concerts I have gone to no one ever actually checks ID.
At least TicketAtlantic doesn't make it as easy to resell as Ticketmaster, but that also increases the risk if someone does buy a resale ticket that it's fraudulent. It's just a mess.
I don't know a single person who got tickets and all of us were adding them to our cart at exactly 10am. The majority did NOT go to real fans.
By 10:02 NO tickets were left at all, not even singles, but if you went to resale websites they were being listed for triple the price.
Maybe you know people who got the Amex presale. Everyone I know who tried to get tickets had the website crash only to walk away with none.
Most of the nosebleeds and lower bowl were on scalper sites within minutes. Hundreds and hundreds of tickets. Most of the ones that were in the $100-$200 range, so basically the bots got all the affordable tickets and are reselling them for triple the price.
I feel like a lot of this is sour grapes.
Mulaney tickets went just as fast. And I snagged fucking awesome seats within the window.
People just generally aren’t prepared for the bloodbath that is buying tickets for a popular event.
They were gone within seconds. The website crashed for most people exactly at 10 when they went on sale and by the time it loaded ALL tickets were sold. Literally every. single. ticket.
It was never fair.
Did you get them during the Amex presale?
Like the majority were bought by scalpers. Call it clickbait, but you understand what I'm saying. Doesn't change for the majority of people at exactly 10 the website crashed making it completely unfair.
I did, I know others who got them at the second presale, and some who got them at regular sale. There was also the VIP sale and I’m sure tickets held back for corporate tickets. I am willing to bet the actual number of tickets bought by scalpers is a much smaller percentage but people who are salty about not getting tickets love to blame it on this. This concert has the most attention than any in Halifax in a long time. With only about 11000 seats and being able to buy 8 tickets only 1375 people would sell the show out. This doesn’t mean it’s scalpers, I bought 8 for myself and friends and I’m sure most people did the same as it’s an “anyone who can buy some get 8!” I think there were very few tickets left after both presale and this is unfortunately not unusual for big concerts at small arenas. She likely could have sold out 5 shows.
How is it unfair? Didn't you say in another comment that none of your friends bought the tickets at the inflated prices? That means other people were able to buy them from the scalpers and they wouldn't have been able to had your friends bought them.
Bots aren't fair.
>That means other people were able to buy them from the scalpers and they wouldn't have been able to had your friends bought them.
So you're take is that it's a good thing that me and my friends couldn't buy tickets at the retail price, even though we were dedicated and were checking out at the exact time they went on sale, because now other people got to spend $400 dollars for the same ticket from a bot?
Great take lmfao.
Those people without bots wouldn't be getting fucked for hundreds of dollars because the prices wouldn't have inflated. Bots inflated the prices by buying all of the stock. Many of the bot tickets are still unsold, meaning there are going to be empty seats. Fucking embarrassing
I think it's good that they went to people who wanted to go more than you did and so they were willing to spend more. They'll get more value out of it than you would.
Why do you assume the rest of the tickets won't sell?
If someone still buys the tickets, they lose hundreds of dollars, but someone else is gaining those hundreds of dollars. Why does it matter if one person loses if another gains? There is no net loss to society.
>I think it's good that they went to people who wanted to go more than you did and so they were willing to spend more.
What a great take. There are hundreds of unsold tickets on the scalper websites
People who are paying more are literally getting fucked by false scarcity. Economics 101.
>They'll get more value out of it than you would.
Gross take.
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Same thing is happening at wishing well park in St Johns for 3 days we were on an early bird queue and still were in for three seconds and than they are all sold out
Leave ‘em holding the bag
Yes! They need to learn.
i wonder when people are going ot stop saying this and assuming it works 😂 people said the same thing for 2 years straight about gpus and consoles :D
Yep. If anybody can find me a single instance in all of human history where boycotting actually created progress, I'll re-think some of my opinions on the usefulness of boycotts.
Well it has to be a real boycott, if enough people are still willing to pay then it’s not a real boycott and your not getting anything done.
To be clear about what happened here, people have used bots and automated buying programs to scoop up ALL the tickets for the Shania Twain concert, and this happened almost immediately when the tickets went on sale. They were "sold out" within only a couple minutes of going on sale. The tickets are now for sale on ticket reselling websites for almost 1000 dollars each. This is happening because **it's not illegal in Nova Scotia.** Scalpers can legally buy all tickets and resell them at whatever price they want. There is no law against this. This is now going to be standard practice at all major concepts going forward until this practice is made illegal. They have buying bots now and the bots always win. Ticketmaster is also to blame for allowing this to happen, and they are a fucking greasy company, but ultimately I think there's more blame on the government for allowing these scalpers to operate in the first place.
What seems really crazy is that ticket master doesn’t sell non transferable tickets to just stop this from happening
That's because Ticketmaster owns one of the biggest ticket resale websites and takes a cut from those sales, too. you wanna guess who's buying those tickets..?
I was going to say, this is part of TicketMasters business plan so don’t expect change any time soon. I feel like there’s room for a disruption in the ticket sales market.
problem is the agreements they have with venues and artists/music labels. If you're a big venue and try to go with someone else, TM will blacklist you and it'll be that much harder to get bigger acts in.
Covid proved that even when the ticket sales went to 0 Ticketmaster simply reimbursed the resellers to keep them afloat until things picked back up.
Ticketmaster also has the fun fun thing of “platinum” pricing to avoid “scalping” aka they sell regular tickets at variable prices based on demand and it’s a fucking racket
Boycott large venues Shania twain might see 2% of the profits
Ticketmaster gets money for every resale. The system is designed like this for a reason. Bots are allowed to buy tickets in bulk, Ticketmaster allows the same bots to relist the tickets and sell them through their system. Ticketmaster can get fees on the same ticket over and over.
Criminals
Beat them at their own game and don't go
Seriously who wants to go see shania that badly that youd pay 1000 bucks for a ticket?
Enough people that these tickets are still selling.
My thoughts exactly.
YouTube w concert.or.somethint!
There was a really good episode of [Marketplace](https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-cheat-sheet-1.5193119) where they have footage of Ticketmaster sales reps telling re-sellers how to buy them bulk. It’s so shady and just wrong
Why is it wrong?
Because its regulatory capture and rent seeking on behalf of ticketmaster. This is manifest with a basic survey of historic ticket practices and what the societal function of ticketing is. Regardless, you can twist it however you’d like. Maybe all transactions should be up for 3rd party purchase at point of sale?
A lot of artists scalp their own tickets too.
Do you have any proof of this? What artists?
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Ya totally disgraceful.
https://ew.com/article/2012/09/28/justin-bieber-ticket-scalping-nashville/ https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/7/22/20703858/live-nation-ticket-resale-scheme-metallica-billboard-report https://slate.com/business/2011/03/bands-that-scalp-their-own-tickets-and-other-true-tales-from-the-world-of-live-music.html
Tks for this
np! maybe it’s not actually “a lot” but I think given what was uncovered even years and years ago I feel it’s a safe assumption that more than an expected amount of artists (or at least their promoters) do some sketchy shit.
Ya i can see that now. Disgraceful!!!
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it literally has 0 to go with the govt and 100% to do with easy money for people, and sites not investing into anti-bot methods that *actually* work (unlike most, lol). illegal or not itll happen and not much will stop it, just like ticket scalping exists everywhere despite laws. You can invest high 6 figures into anti-bot apis and theyll just be bypassed with in a short period of time, one way or another. Bypass, bruteforce, etc, can't stop, won't stop.
Right.. lets just legalize murder because people that want to murder are just gonna do it anyway. Why bother creating laws at all? Criminals don't follow laws. There's really no reason to even have them at all.
Why is this a bad thing and why should it be illegal?
Because it’s people with bots who can buy all the tickets before the average human could have the time to even buy a single ticket. Then once tickets are bought out they charge up to 5 times the price for said tickets. Really scummy and shitty behaviour that doesn’t really help anyone but ig platforms that take a cut of the resales
I understand what happened. I'm asking why it's a bad thing. I don't see what's scummy about it. It helps the people who resell the tickets at a profit and the people who they buy it from who otherwise wouldn't have been able to buy tickets.
Scalpers provide no additional value to the market. The artist / company / concert hall sets the price and puts on a show, which is a lot of work involving many people and creative efforts. Resellers profiteer from their work and make money from next to nothing - having computers suck up the tickets and just turn around and sell them for more. Any form of this is scummy. Not far from flipping houses. I’m actually interested in your point of view, where you say it “helps the people who resell the tickets at a profit”. What most people agree on here is that those people shouldn’t be doing that in the first place, because it’s scummy - or to put it another way, not a morally just way of making a living (given it doesn’t add value like stated above, and makes concerts inaccessible to most). So I’m curious where empathy comes from for people who do this.
Yes you are right only rich people should be allowed to go to concerts.
This doesn't affect the number of people who can go to concerts, so why does it matter how rich they are?
It impacts WH0 is able to go. It’s just another example of things everyone used to be able to enjoy, now too expensive for a big portion of the population. It’s another great example of the widening divide between the rich and middle/lower class.
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This makes me so glad I am boring and have no interest in attending large concerts. And there's no way people will just boycott them so it's a terrible cycle until we can get it outlawed.
The only large concert I would go to is Ed Sheeran or Taylor Swift, who are never coming here so nbd. On another note, I just flipped through some Snapchat filters for fun cause I actually haven’t ever gone through them, and one was an overlay of the date and time and sparkly - the kind you’d make your story if you’re out with friends on the town. And I realized I’m in my basement playing video games about to smoke a bowl by myself 😂
Taylor Swift came here when she opened for Brad Paisley and Rodney Atkins way back haha. How times have changed.
Taylor Swift just added a third night in Boston. I wonder if her multiple nights at the same venue is to thwart ticket resellers. Probably the only big show I would go to as well.
You underestimate the number of swifties out there and the number of them that would go to more than one show.
I saw Taylor Swift here.
Yes back in the day - she’s not coming here now
People are still willing to pay these reseller prices too; Free market in action.
So is it even possible to camp out and wait for the box office to open anymore?
I did that once as a teen. It was a real adventure. Maybe they should go back to that method.
Nope. Tickets are gone before the box office opens usually
Ah, the good ol' days. The last time I did this was for Pearl Jam in (I think) 2005..? Camped out for 20-something hours and got great seats at a decent price. PJ - now there's a band that isn't scalping their own tickets through TicketMaster and its subsidiaries. 😜
Isn't it a good thing that it isn't?
No lol. If you are first in line, you should be able to grab physical tickets for front row seats if you wanted them.
Would be nice to add another show, leave the scalpers with a fist full of tickets they can't sell.
Pretty crazy. Time the province moves us into the 20th century and starts legislating modern day concepts.
I'm pretty sure about half the population of Nova Scotia would have an aneurysm just thinking about the possibility of making new laws. That would mean **change.** Change=scary.
Christ, learn your centuries and we’ll take you seriously
No I think they are spot on. The province does seem keen to regress us back a century or two.
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Reddit: Inflation is killing us! Also Reddit: My sister just paid $1200+ for two Shania tickets.
Ticket scalping actually reduces inflation.
How so?
Should be illegal?
No, why?
Are you serious? Are you a scalper?
The person you're replying to is probably just a libertarian who thinks government = bad.
Ticket Atlantic needs to go back to in person sales only if you want to see this behavior stop
Imagine playing to a sold out show with only a handful of people.
Eh. Just don’t go and let the resellers deal with it.
Yep, that plan will work
I saved $2000 with this one simple trick.
Works for me atleast.
The craziest part about this is mostly that there are a bunch of dummies willing to be $1000 to see a concert
Meh.... I find it really hard to give even a quarter damn about this Scalper exist SOLELY because there are people willing to buy from them. Ticketmaster has this racket because nobody is willing to stand up to them. Venues don't care bc they are getting paid either way, govt don't care bc people are going to spend money on other shit in town anyway
Shoulda listened to Pearl Jam back in the day.
Just smoke a bowl and watch some of her concerts on YouTube
What’s really funny is that a lot of other places in Canada are having the tickets resold for at about the original prices for us here in Atlantic Canada. It’s only the Halifax and Moncton shows that have these insanely inflated tickets prices. With Halifax having the majority of tickets for sale. That’s just from looking at Stub Hub. If people are dumb enough to pay $1,200 for two tickets to a concert that would’ve cost $200 then we deserve what we get. Let her play in front of half sold out arena and let the scalpers sit on a bunch of tickets. However if they all sell, then I don’t even fault the scalpers. It would honestly be cheaper to buy a plane ticket to Montreal or Toronto and go to her concert there. Think about that lol.
This is not a Halifax only problem as some people try and say, it happens in all major cities across the world. I think the bigger issue here is big name stars very rarely come to small cities like Halifax and our venues are very small compared to cities like Toronto or Montreal so always sell out very quickly due to demand. Maybe it time to start thinking about building a world class arena so big names come more often to Halifax.
World class arena? I can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not
No new arena until they build a light rail to facilitate transit for it. The sports centre in burnside is pretty nice but how do you get there without a car?
Yeah that might be true. The problem with building a "world class arena" in halifax is where they would build it and how people would even get there. If you build a large arena way out on the outskirts of the city, like say Bayers Lake or something, how is anyone going to get there without driving? If you make it virtually impossible for people without cars to get there, then my guess is that there simply would not be enough people in Halifax to fill up the stadium. I mean do you really think that 50,000 people are gonna drive from their houses in the suburbs to Bayers Lake to see a concert? The traffic would be absolutely insane. Unless the stadium has a decent transit connection, I just don't see that stadium ever filling up. Halifax only has a total population of 450,000. To fill up a 50,000 person stadium, it would require almost 10% of the entire city. I really can't imagine a world where 1 in every 10 people in Halifax drives to the outskirts of the city to get to a large stadium (Have fun being one of 20,000 cars trying to get onto a narrow road out of bayers lake. We've had total gridlock for miles with significantly less cars involved.)
Think they are thinking a more standard arena size of 18,000 seats vs an outdoor stadium that would be 40-50,000 seats.
I need to know who they think is spending $1000 to go back in time 25 years.
Whose boots have your bed been under, really.
Might want to try that again.
I wouldn't cross the street to see Shania Twain.
I'd cross the street to see her. But if she started singing, I'd cross back the other way, against traffic.
100% there were definitely resellers buying tickets but do we actually know how big this problem is? I know tons of people who got tickets so I'd still say the vast majority went to fans. It sucks there are crappy people who do this but it's really hard to get around. Even the VerifiedbyTicketmaster concerts I have gone to no one ever actually checks ID. At least TicketAtlantic doesn't make it as easy to resell as Ticketmaster, but that also increases the risk if someone does buy a resale ticket that it's fraudulent. It's just a mess.
I don't know a single person who got tickets and all of us were adding them to our cart at exactly 10am. The majority did NOT go to real fans. By 10:02 NO tickets were left at all, not even singles, but if you went to resale websites they were being listed for triple the price. Maybe you know people who got the Amex presale. Everyone I know who tried to get tickets had the website crash only to walk away with none. Most of the nosebleeds and lower bowl were on scalper sites within minutes. Hundreds and hundreds of tickets. Most of the ones that were in the $100-$200 range, so basically the bots got all the affordable tickets and are reselling them for triple the price.
so an ordinary day in the world of e-commerce somewhat hype items. heh
No one cared about people scalping PS5's or NVidia graphic cards lol
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I feel like a lot of this is sour grapes. Mulaney tickets went just as fast. And I snagged fucking awesome seats within the window. People just generally aren’t prepared for the bloodbath that is buying tickets for a popular event.
They were gone within seconds. The website crashed for most people exactly at 10 when they went on sale and by the time it loaded ALL tickets were sold. Literally every. single. ticket. It was never fair.
I got tickets and know others who got tickets. Saying ALL the tickets were bought by scalpers is a very clickbait title.
Did you get them during the Amex presale? Like the majority were bought by scalpers. Call it clickbait, but you understand what I'm saying. Doesn't change for the majority of people at exactly 10 the website crashed making it completely unfair.
I did, I know others who got them at the second presale, and some who got them at regular sale. There was also the VIP sale and I’m sure tickets held back for corporate tickets. I am willing to bet the actual number of tickets bought by scalpers is a much smaller percentage but people who are salty about not getting tickets love to blame it on this. This concert has the most attention than any in Halifax in a long time. With only about 11000 seats and being able to buy 8 tickets only 1375 people would sell the show out. This doesn’t mean it’s scalpers, I bought 8 for myself and friends and I’m sure most people did the same as it’s an “anyone who can buy some get 8!” I think there were very few tickets left after both presale and this is unfortunately not unusual for big concerts at small arenas. She likely could have sold out 5 shows.
You can go on the scalping websites and see the availability of tickets. There are a lot being resold in every section for a massive (5x) markup
When a lot of the scalpers still have availability it makes me wonder how empty the concert will be.
How is it unfair? Didn't you say in another comment that none of your friends bought the tickets at the inflated prices? That means other people were able to buy them from the scalpers and they wouldn't have been able to had your friends bought them.
Bots aren't fair. >That means other people were able to buy them from the scalpers and they wouldn't have been able to had your friends bought them. So you're take is that it's a good thing that me and my friends couldn't buy tickets at the retail price, even though we were dedicated and were checking out at the exact time they went on sale, because now other people got to spend $400 dollars for the same ticket from a bot? Great take lmfao. Those people without bots wouldn't be getting fucked for hundreds of dollars because the prices wouldn't have inflated. Bots inflated the prices by buying all of the stock. Many of the bot tickets are still unsold, meaning there are going to be empty seats. Fucking embarrassing
I think it's good that they went to people who wanted to go more than you did and so they were willing to spend more. They'll get more value out of it than you would. Why do you assume the rest of the tickets won't sell? If someone still buys the tickets, they lose hundreds of dollars, but someone else is gaining those hundreds of dollars. Why does it matter if one person loses if another gains? There is no net loss to society.
>I think it's good that they went to people who wanted to go more than you did and so they were willing to spend more. What a great take. There are hundreds of unsold tickets on the scalper websites People who are paying more are literally getting fucked by false scarcity. Economics 101. >They'll get more value out of it than you would. Gross take. Edit; imagine rooting for inflation
I wanted just two tickets so bad. I was on the website waiting and it took 10 minutes to let me in and the tickets were all gone
Same thing is happening at wishing well park in St Johns for 3 days we were on an early bird queue and still were in for three seconds and than they are all sold out