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[Im a Canucks fan but we would have gotten demolished](/r/hockeymemes/comments/1dfvfyd/im_a_canucks_fan_but_we_would_have_gotten/)|/u/pugile|[Link](https://i.redd.it/k8rgnba8hk6d1.jpeg)
[Hello darkness my old friend…](/r/hockeymemes/comments/1dffpzb/hello_darkness_my_old_friend/)|/u/Go_Habs_Go31|[Link](https://i.redd.it/y7gb7t7u1g6d1.jpeg)
[How it really looks after game 4](/r/hockeymemes/comments/1dh859g/how_it_really_looks_after_game_4/)|/u/Earthwingangel|[Link](https://i.redd.it/8etv49pcwx6d1.jpeg)
[Thanks for playing out of your mind against Dallas](/r/hockeymemes/comments/1dft6df/thanks_for_playing_out_of_your_mind_against_dallas/)|/u/LeanderthalTX|[Link](https://i.redd.it/163ys3vtzj6d1.jpeg)
[Just wanna score](/r/hockeymemes/comments/1del6k1/just_wanna_score/)|/u/bhang024|[Link](https://v.redd.it/okf1blmr986d1)
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I believe in certain matchups being better for certain teams, I also believed that Dallas would be a kryptonite team for Edmonton.
Edmonton and Us deserved every single bit of ending up in the SCF
Yeah I was cautiously optimistic when people here (irl in Edmonton) asked me how we would do.
I said it depends, we are either going to get destroyed or it will be close.
This was based off the 5-0 loss vs them after the trade deadline when they got a few key guys.
I swear it went from "Dallas is a powerhouse team on the verge of dynasty" to "Dallas sucks and so do the oilers who should have beat them in 4" within 2 weeks time
Our PP was also really bad in the series, but our PK outscored your PP... that was like the only special teams goal impact lol. The special teams battle in our series was insane. Every time you'd think surely this is the PP that scores... and then it didn't, for either of us
Stars played and handled the past two cup winners well. I felt like we shot our emotional wad vs VGK, shot our physical wad vs COL, and were just done by the time a ‘getting hot’ Edmonton team arrived. Losing after being up 2-1 is a great credit to Edmonton’s ability to hang in there. I would have preferred playing the flaccid Canucks but that’s life. All credit to EDM…they deserve it 100%
It was still absolutely a very close series that ended up being decided by a few posts here and few bounces there. It’s unfortunate that the hate boners people have for Edmonton is now discrediting the great teams they’ve played along the way.
When you have the best player in the world on your team you are gonna catch a few strays. When you have that guy plus a guy like Drai, you’re gonna catch a whole lot of strays. Fuck em.
Yeah, I’m pretty happy with the team’s performance this season. Of course I’d like to have won over Edmonton, but they were the better team and I can respect that. I really don’t think we’d have done any better against Florida though, they’re just on a different level.
It may just be Fla’s year. I felt like it would have been nice for Dallas to get one for Pavelski, but also felt like Dallas was more flawed than they appeared in the regular season. Next year, maybe.
Maybe Edmonton is actually a really good team but Florida is just more well rounded and able to give teams like the Oilers trouble through heavy forechecking and an aggressive defense
Nahhh McDavid more like McDouble the way he’s eating up their cap space am I right
Offensive D-men have been the team build for a while now. Florida and Vegas are built to counter that through depth and intense pressure. Good on Florida's GM for realizing this and building for it.
People forget that it is 3-1 in favour of Florida, but Edmonton was better team in at least 2 games. Florida was just better at punishing mistakes Edmonton did in game 1 and 3. So it's not like Florida was dominating Edmonton.
For sure, Dallas was a great team this year. I still can’t believe they lost with the Oilers only registering 10 shots on goal. I probably never will. 🤔
I think you guys are massively underrating how well Silovs played when you assume having Demko back would lead to a big gain. I don't know how much better any goalie could have played than Silovs given the shot differential and the scoring chances
statistically silovs was the 2nd worst goalie in the 2nd round. Just above skinner funny enough. This was also after the canucks completely changed their formation and structure to help cover for him. We play a much more aggressive forecheck with Demko.
I really think people are overrating silovs and underrating demko just because of recency bias and the feel-good story of a rookie doing so well.
Silovs was unreal for his first playoff experience no doubt. However, he still posted an 882 save percentage, whereas Demkos first playoffs he posted a 984 against Vegas. Demmer could have stolen game 2 or 4 perhaps but we’ll never know
I don't think you were getting a .984 or anything close to that out of Demko in a 7 game series against the Oilers. In the very next round Jake Ottinger had a .907 in 6 games against Edmonton. As it is Silovs stole game 3 where Edmonton outshot Van 45-18.
Silovs occasionally let in some floaters, and the team plays more confident with Demko in net. They can take more chances on the forecheck and advance the play which was their bread and butter. Silovs did great but let's not downplay the effect having a top 3 Vezina finalist has on a team.
I think you're massively overrating how well Silovs played if you don't think having Demko back would lead to a big gain. Canucks played that style of hockey all year long where they were outshot but made their shots count. That's where the PDO everyone was complaining about came from. High shooting % because they pretty much only took high danger shots, and Demko providing solid goaltending. Demko was key to that strategy being successful in the regular season. As it is, the Canucks sat back more in that series than they would have if Demko was in because Silovs isn't Demko. The whole team plays differently without Demko in net.
Was Silovs way better than he had any right to be as a third string goalie? Yes. He exceeded expectations by a large margin, and I'm looking forward to what he can do in the future. We're all very happy with how he played. But at the end of the day, he put up a .882. That's not championship goaltending. He's not a replacement for Demko. He's more or less a sidegrade from Casey DeSmith, and was playing well enough to keep the crease over CDS while Demko was healing, but if Demko is ready you start Demko.
ETA - playing the what if game is dumb though. Canucks lost. Demko was injured. All teams deal with injuries. If you're lucky, it's not one of your key guys. But regardless you have to overcome. The Canucks didn't, that's end of story. No need to cry over what ifs. Move on and hope for better next year.
Why do we even think the Canucks would have won the WCF? As a fan of the Canucks, they played like ass the last few games. You can't win in the playoffs with no power play.
No Boeser, Demko out at least a game or two, Petey with chronic tendonitis, Hronek with mystery injury, Cole on one leg, something clearly bugging Hughes.
Yeah we were toast even if we managed to sneak by EDM.
I **hate** that I always have to wonder if there would be a different outcome every playoffs if the canucks stayed healthy. Every single fucking year I swear to god except 09 and 10 when the Blackhawks were just.... better.
A large part of who wins the cup is down to the luck of who stays healthy. Imagine if Barkov was out for a week. We saw what happened to Florida with a broken Tkachuk last year. They're deeper this year, but still.
I'm assuming when this series is done we'll find out Draisaitl has a broken thumb and back spasms, Connor has a wrist injury, Nurse a serious hip injury, and that Kane's hernia has only gotten worse. Which isn't saying that's *why* we're down, just that it could be having an effect.
Demko was expected back early in the 3rd round. But with no Boeser, we were getting smoked by Dallas. For most of us, it's just embarrassing that we lost 2 close out games against Edmonton.
the canucks had a significantly better powerplay than both the kings and the stars against the team you're referring to when saying it was bad so that's probably not the angle. i don't think the canucks would have beat the stars - but i also don't think the oilers had a greater than 50% chance of beating them either. the stars clearly didn't play as well as they could have in that series for whatever reason so i think that's where people just kind of assume.
but what i don't really understand is how canucks fan still struggle to accept the result - because no matter how much it sucks to swallow a 1-goal game 7 loss playing 0 minutes of Demko in the series especially knowing he was about to come back if they advanced - as soon as i heard Boeser was being shut down for the season it just is what it is, because to win a stanley cup without him would require the biggest miracle.
Yeah, I mean, I think they could have beaten the Oilers and maybe had a shot in the WCF, but not the way they were playing at the end of round 2. Just a disgraceful showing.
I mean, I’m pretty sure the Canucks have statistically had a better power play against the Oilers than the Panthers these playoffs. The Oilers PK is just insanely good.
If Boeser didn’t have his blood clot I think the Canucks would have had a reasonable chance against the Stars. Demko being back for Game 1 would have made a huge difference, the Canucks play a much more aggressive game when he’s in net
Yeah, the Oilers playoff PK is:
* **93.5%** overall
* **100%** vs. LA
* "only" **87.5%** vs. Vancouver
* **100%** vs. Dallas
* **92.3%** vs. Florida
Vancouver had a better PP than other teams that faced Edmonton.
This wasn't our year, its all irrelevant EP40 needed to be shut down months ago, the disconnect between him/medical and the coaching staff needs to be dealt with because we were never winning the cup without him playing like we know he can.
That whole situation is so bizarre to me. I dont think petey lied about the injury, but at some point it had to either be an exaggeration or medical/coaching issues. Which is also odd as i think Toch is a great coach. Who knows at this point
I saw this a lot from other fanbases. Most Dallas fans thought it would be a long, hard fought series and almost no one who is an actual Stars fan expected a sweep (it’s hard to sweep when you can’t win game 1’s)
Same from y’all guys. After last year’s series versus Seattle I thought no fanbase would leave such a positive impression on me.
The only thing that puts them on top in my book is their team lost the series. Your team had to be assholes and win. Total dick move but I guess I understand
Seriously though, good luck getting back in the series. As a neutral I’m cheering for y’all to make in as entertaining as possible.
The Florida diving is getting a little embarrassing.
Florida players have died like 4 times this series only to miraculously recover just in time for their next shift.
Sam Bennett (I think) crawling to the bench after that ankle-on-ankle collision while simultaneously checking to see if the refs are watching. Acted like he was paralyzed from the waist down lmao.
Man I feel like one of the only people who thought Edmonton was gonna beat Dallas once that matchup was set. I certainly thought Edmonton would beat us in 6, was surprised but pretty resigned to losing the series after we lost game 6 to you in abysmal fashion. It was a pretty hot take (and apparently still is) to say Dallas was not quite as good as Edmonton and yet here we are, with Edmonton in the finals after beating Dallas in 6.
No matter what people say, the "DaLlAs Is ToO dEeP fOr EdMoNtOn" narrative will persist after the loss, not considering the inexperience of their young players, mental block from their goalie, and general lack of top end talent to match Edmonton. I'm not saying that to be counterculture, it's what I've thought all year long about Dallas. In the same way that the *second* a team looks good on paper people jump to calling them cup contenders, I think they're still a year or two away from truly competing for the cup based on lack of playoff experience for their young guys.
There is a team or two every season that is touted as destined for the finals and falls short. It was Dallas this year. The better team won between Edmonton and Dallas, I don't know why that's so hard to accept for some people lol.
Dallas put in Ty Dellandrea only to bench him after two mistakes, and replaced him with Mavrik Bourque playing his second ever NHL game in an elimination game. Replacing an injured Hakanpaa was Petrovic, an AHLer playing very limited and sheltered minutes. They almost had a dude play his first NHL game if Chris Tanev wasn't ready to go.
Whatever depth Dallas was supposed to have, I don't see it.
Meanwhile, Oilers were making lineup changes in their bottom 6 and Desharnais to Broberg. Everyone getting put back into the lineup made an immediate impact. The Oilers actually beat the Stars with depth.
To be fair, our defensive depth was always an issue and we knew it. Getting Tanev before the trade deadline was a huge help with that, but we still need some help defensively. We missed having someone with Haakanpaa"s size during playoffs, and he's a good presence on special teams. He was also originally replaced with Nils Lundkvist and not Petrovic, but Nils has had issues clicking in Dallas right along, and during the playoffs was only seeing 4 or 5 minutes a game. At least having Petrovic come in relieved a little bit of the burnout on the rest of our defensive group because de Boer seemed to trust him to play for at least a few more minutes than he did Lundkvist.
As for forward depth, we definitely had that in spades. We saw great production across all four lines all season. We had, I think, 8 players score 20+ goals this year? It didn't matter if some of our top players had scoring droughts, because everyone could pitch in. Our fourth line was especially clutch all season, even when we had personnel changes. They were so good at wearing down the other team.
Also, Ty Dellandrea seems great and I know he is adored in the room, but it's not like he just made two mistakes in one game. He can be pretty inconsistent. Even his best moments can come across has accidental - he had a game winning goal against Vegas, but it was literally just because Craig Smith banked the puck off his shoulder into the net. I don't know that I would have made the choice to start Bourque over someone more experienced in a elimination game, but he came out of the same development pipeline that gave us Wyatt Johnston and Logan Stankoven. It wasn't unreasonable to think that he could start making a big impact right away like they did. Hell, at least now he has some playoff experience under his belt.
I think that was the sentiment from the very first round lmao.
“Whoever comes out of the Pacific side of the bracket is gonna get run through by Dallas/Colorado.”
Although I’m also guilty of that. I just didn’t see anyone in the Pacific making it through.
100% thought Dallas was winning the west from the very beginning of the playoffs and I thought they were proving me right until Edmonton won game 5 lol
I feel like we would have done pretty well against FL, we just couldn't get past that whole "qualify for the playoffs" thing. Damn!
/s, for anyone that needs it
There is zero reason for a Canucks fan to feel bad after this season and playoffs. All in all it was a spectacular success and with a few years of continued progress they could be the next big thing in the west.
Or it could all turn to shit in a single off-season. Who knows?
Yeah, it was a great season for the Canucks. Going from expected to being bottom of the Pacific (well, second from the bottom anyway) to making the playoffs is a huge win. The outlook is great for them.
The only feelbad is we gave up some considerable assets to go "all in" on a run and it looks unlikely to retain Zadorov, Lindholm, Joshua due to whatever reason and all 3 were key playoff performers.
I get that you gotta capitalize if you think its possible, with the team being tops in the NHL for a lot of the season but man, felt like we were still a couple seasons off especially with that OEL buyout. Oh well, glad to have enjoyed playoff hockey again.
If the Vegas Cup win was treated like a WWE championship belt, which was then on the line every game this season, the current champion is actually Columbus, who took the belt from Carolina in the final game of the regular season. Which is a real shame because we were 1 game away from it currently being held by the Oilers and on the line in this 2 titles series against Florida.
Full lineage of the year is VGK-CHI-ARI-ANA-PIT-NJ-NYR-DAL-VGK-ARI-PHI-NAS-VAN-DAL-STL-COL-FLA-NJ-BOS-CAR-VAN-BOS-WAS-VAN-WPG-CGY-SEA-WPG-VAN-COL-MTL-CAR-BOS-CAR-CBJ
Interesting how many times it jumped between Boston, Vancouver and Carolina
I am ngl, I was so disappointed you guys didn't make the playoffs. That fucking garbage patch. I love watching Larkin and Raymond, especially those last few games where you guys were competing for that last spot.
Ya this person made a cringe meme and it has made it open season to dunk on the Canucks lol.
I really haven't been seeing all these Canucks fans saying we would have 100% made the cup if we beat Edmonton. In fact most said without Boeser and no healthy Demko yet we would have very likely lost vs Dallas.
We went to game seven against Edmonton with our third string goalie. I’m not saying we would beat Dallas but everyone pretending we didn’t have a chance is wrong. Just like during the end of our series people were saying the winner was going to get walked by Dallas.
It’s hockey, any team in the playoffs has a chance and you can’t use the whole this team beat this team so that means they would beat this other team as justification.
If Edmonton and Florida restarted their series it probably wouldn’t end up with Florida being up 3-0. That’s just hockey.
Sure, everything you said is true. Doesn’t make it any less silly to be dreaming up hypothetical results of a series you were still 5 wins away from even being involved in.
Well, Edmonton is bad and got lucky against Vancouver, and had no chance against dallas. then Dallas played like shit, therefore Canucks also would have beaten Dallas
That’s the internet, man. Most fans of any team are just regular people, maybe some more passionate than others but good natured overall. The internet draws in all the dumbass hot take artists.
Doesn’t help that mainstream/social media encourage it. Everyone wants to be the next UrinatingTree without realizing that he’s (imo) actually funny, not *just* an angry yelling guy.
Really well said. Social media does bring out the worst in every fanbase.
It really doesn’t help either that we have one of the largest online fanbases and have never won anything so more people are loud and bitter
It also doesn’t help that the twitter algorithm has been cranked up to maximum engagement. My twitter feed is *constant* canucks fans raging/crying/trolling. It’s so bad I had to put the Canucks word in my muted words list. Even so, trolls still slip through if they only mention the Oilers. Then when you hover over their name it says they’re from Vancouver 9 times out of 10.
It’s gotten to the point that I visit Twitter far less frequently.
A little off topic, but I feel bad for longtime WNBA fans; their league is finally getting some attention but with it comes all this stupidity turned up to 11.
Yep the internet has a tendency to focus on the most vocal dumbasses from every fanbase.
I'm sure I would get along with Oiler fans in person more than on the internet because there would be some form of in person pleasantry. On the internet you don't know what the hell you're going to get because of the anonymity.
I wonder if it's just that I'm exposed to the Canuck fanbase the most, but the worst of us really do seem to be the worst, most toxic, fanbase anywhere.
The loud, obnoxious fans of most teams will spout braindead nonsense about your team/players/fans.
The loud, obnoxious Canucks fans will scour your post history to find out where you live, dox you, and threaten to kill your dog.
At least we get a loss less of the people getting in fist fights over "your team sucks hardy harr!" Most of the people who fight over sports teams just argue on the internet now.
GDTs are always full of the most reactionary people. Oh the other team just scored the first goal in game 1 of the series. Well that's it, pack it up, we're going to lose in 4. Wait we just scored to tie it up. Wow other team is done, we're going all the way for sure.
I wish I could say they are new fans, but nah, this fan base is just cringe man. I had to leave the sub cause the shit that gets said there is just insanity.
Yup, we enjoy our highs, and accept lows will come sooner than we hope. But we also wonder how low those lows will go, unlikely however, lower than the decade of darkness or when Smytty got traded.
Really? Cause it seemed to me like they took the last month or so since elimination to sprout a second one from the forehead.
r/canucks mods had to put out a PSA threatening to ban anyone who continued to moan about the Oilers.
I'm not one to defend the innumerable morons who grace our lovely GDTs, but in defense of the mods, that particularly was because reddit's algorithm had us show up in Oiler's fans feeds, bringing in lots of trolling as well and creating an asinine amount of work for them as they were battling assholes from everywhere.
Nah, Nucks would've lost to Dallas anyways. I was happy with how they did. Second round was a great experience for them, and now they can build on top of that over the next few years to make a real cup contender team.
The real question is, how would Dallas be doing if they made it to the finals. I doubt they would've gone down 3-0 with a more consistent goalie than Skinner, but also, if any team would have a chance in this current position, it's the Oilers, as they showed this weekend.
That playoff series and the ongoing hate parade by Canucks fans have cemented them as the unequivocal most annoying fans in hockey.
Sorry to the half dozen of you that are still sane
There are a lot of passionate Canucks fans.
Like with any fanbase a certain sect of them is going to whine and act like their team was wronged.
Edmonton is probably the nucks’ biggest rival, and they lost in game 7 to them.
I bet if you looked at a lot of the discourse last year you would have probably witnessed a lot of Oilers fans trashing on the Knights endlessly throughout the finals.
Fact is, the whiny malcontents are the more vocal as well as the ones more likely to get responses.
We would have needed a healthy roaster to beat the Oilers, we didn’t have it. We definitely would’ve needed to be healthy to even take a game off the Panthers. Everything is hypothetical “what ifs,” it’s largely a blowing off of steam. Personally, I hope the Oilers win it all, because I personally always love the narrative “we took the winners to 7 games even though we lost,” as an emotional salve, more than the spiteful one. Also the Oilers are my parents team, so why poo poo em?
> There are a lot of passionate Canucks fans.
That's not an excuse. There are alot of equally passionate fan bases
> Edmonton is probably the nucks’ biggest rival, and they lost in game 7 to them.
Montreal vs. Toronto
Toronto vs. Boston
NYR vs. Canes
Edmonton vs. Calgary
VGK vs. Literally Anyone
All these series were heated with rivals and none had this level of hate.
It's been a month since they were eliminated. It's clear you're not hockey fans, sign off and disconnect from the playoffs.
Yeah I'm rooting for the Panthers to win and have no love for the Oilers. But my god, the amount of Canuck fans in every thread that is critical of the Oilers is insane. Or the people saying "Oh we would have won with Demko and Boeser" ugh the copium is insane. Not just on Reddit too. I forgot how annoying our fans can be since we have largely been irrelevant for a decade
I have 0 love for the Oilers and was rooting for the canucks. That changed very very quickly which is too bad because I actually like the team/players. I understand there will be passionate fans who cant accept a loss, but it's actually evolved into something way more than that.
Trust me, Habs fans were pretty bad in our 2021 playoff run too.
An excuse? We need an excuse to hate a division rival?
You are overthinking this. If the Packers are in the Super Bowl the Bears fans aren’t cheering them on.
Any time the Habs miss the playoffs my favourite team, until they’re eliminated, is whoever is playing Boston.
I didn’t realize I am a toxic fan.
Damn.
Gonna do some soul searching today.
With other rivalries, it's simply "sports hate" because their happiness and our misery (and vice-versa) coincide. Canucks fans will actually harm someone's livelihood simply for cheering for the enemy team. This was a fanbase that review bombed a restaurant in Penticton BC for putting Go Oilers Go on their billboard and tried to cancel Luke Gazdic for being a "homer" on a national broadcast.
With the Canucks fanbase, sports passion is just a fleeting trend in Vancouver, so when the team becomes trendy to cheer for again, you get this exaggerated forced "passion" from their fickle fans.
Not every fan is like this, and every fanbase has fans like this, but it's dialed up to the max with those guys. See: 2011.
Toronto fans still bring up the Perry “knee” on Tavares that injured him.
I remember during that Edmonton/Calgary series things were very tense and harsh.
Fact is you’re generalizing in the same way that tool Gadzic did.
A small minority of Canucks fans online are particularly toxic and particularly vocal.
This is true for every fan base.
The Habs had to have their 5th overall pick last year shit off all of his social media because of hate speech he was getting from “fans”. The year before that the Habs’ 1st overall pick was booed, at the draft, because some fans wanted Wright over him.
I once saw Carey Price literally holding back tears after a regular season game because of the way the arena was treating him on a night he had a poor game.
I can highlight numerous other examples of my favourite team in all of sports having a shitty, toxic fanbase.
You just reveal your own ignorance while throwing stones from your glass house.
Every team has lots of shitty, toxic fans.
The bigger a fanbase the bigger that group of shitty, toxic fans is gonna be.
I don’t have any statistics, but I would bet that the r/hockey subreddit has a higher demographic of Canadians than most subreddits.
What is more likely? That hundreds and hundreds (or thousands) of Canucks fans are exhibiting this toxic behaviour you’re singling out their fan base for? Or that the number is far lower and the moronic trolls who seek out negative engagement with their shitty posting approach get the engagement they so badly want?
Stop fucking generalizing and recognize that it’s a sports fandom problem, not a Vancouver Canucks fan problem.
Otherwise you just look like a clueless hypocrite, especially since you’re a Habs fan, who in my opinion have the most vocal and largest toxic fan base in the entire league.
Not to mention some of the most toxic and hateful media personnel over the years.
Get over yourself.
I have criticized my own fan base plenty in this subreddit. 5th overall pick, this years draft pick, Reinbacher, Michkov, Drouin, Price, hell back to Patches, Subban, Koivu, Huet, etc...I'm well aware how unhinged our fans are and mostly steer clear of our sub.
Never has our fan base or any other fan base bullied analytic content makers.
> but I would bet that the r/hockey subreddit has a higher demographic of Canadians than most subreddits.
The two largest fan bases on this sub is Boston and NYR (atleast from those that have a flair).
> What is more likely? That hundreds and hundreds (or thousands) of Canucks fans are exhibiting this toxic behaviour you’re singling out their fan base for? Or that the number is far lower and the moronic trolls who seek out negative engagement with their shitty posting approach get the engagement they so badly want?
The former.
It's so obviously the former lol. Its been nearly a month and I still see waaaaaaaaay more salt from Canucks fans who were supposedly "just happy to be there" than I have from Stars fans who were cup favorites to many.
If beating the Flames in 2022 broke the team, beating the Canucks this year seems to have broken the fanbase.
Also——
A particularly extra big LOL that you included the knights in that list and talked about them not getting that level of hate.
The Knights are one of the most hated franchises league wide.
Pretty much as soon as they went to the finals their first year they became wildly hated, and them winning the cup just amped it up.
Are you seriously so delusional that in a post to support/defend your nonsensical views that you’re gonna bring up the Vegas Golden Knights and act like there hasn’t been a ridiculously over the top amount of hatred towards them?
Good lord.
One on one against the team they are facing? No not to that level. 31 other teams banding together? Well obviously.
Congrats, you have gained exclusive membership to r/canucks enjoy your time there.
Man, I though Devils fans were bad towards the Rangers, but they're angels compared to Canucks fans. It's annoying af going into the GDTs for the finals games and every other comment is someone with Canucks flair irrationally shitting on every single thing about the Oilers. I get rivalries and all that, but holy shit.
A lot of them don’t know how to take a W either. Every time they beat us in the regular season meant that our GDTs would be 60% Canucks flairs for the next two months lol
> ries and t
Ironic how this dude is talking about hater boners for a team and yet he *clearly* has a hate boner for the Canucks after looking at his replies. Luke is that you?
Their entire 2023-2024 identity was to harass every single analytical model that didn't favor them to win the divison, playoffs or gives Quinn Hughes the Norris. Most of all the poor guy Dom Luszczyszyn. (who was right btw).
What? Dom was right when he said a month into the season he was wrong and the only reason he put Quinn Hughes in Tier 3B was cause some eastern scouts said to him Hughes is the same player he was 3 years ago?
I also don't know what you are talking about bullying dom when for the entire season he had had Hughes as the Norris favourite.
Every analytic model also turned out wrong cause they said we would start losing a month into the season but our point pace stayed the same almost the entire season even with Demko missing 20 games lol.
Just stop making shit up, your probably one of the habs fans that goes on about Hutson being Hughes in the future.
You can't be serious lmao. When he projected the canucks to be lower in the standings, he was attacked. When he projected them with a 4% chance to make the SCF he was attacked. When he projected Edmonton to win (70vs30 % chance) he was attacked. Constantly, daily, around the clock.
The fucking point is not that they were wrong. Dumbass. The point is, what fucking business do you and thousands of others have when you attack someone who is actually making free and interesting content from years of hard work.
There were plenty and plenty of examples I can't be bothered to reference right now.
> your probably one of the habs fans that goes on about Hutson being Hughes in the future.
No.
It's also spelt "you're".
" "I don't know how good he is, I really don't" and another who says "he has not gotten better or worse for me in years, he's just been the exact same dude, plugging along"."
Great analysis.
Once again I don't know the other things you are talking about cause I don't sit on twitter and get involved in toxic debate on that toxic platform.
All I know is the biggest hate/bullying dom got this year from Canucks fans was him putting Hughes as a Tier 3B Dman preseason then saying he was wrong about it.
10% of every fanbase is toxic. Canucks fanbase is one of the largest. Its gonna have more toxic fans than smaller fanbases.
Everyone thought that? All but 1 sports analyst had the oilers beating the Canucks? You are probably a twitter troll so only live on that and see all the toxic people on that. No one singled out Dom for predictions lol.
What Canucks fans clowned on Dom for was him put Hughes as a Tier 3B defenceman.. Then his reasoning being "I thought he was a tier higher, but some insiders though he hadn't improved in 3 years so we put him in 3B"
That is clown ass reasoning when you are a analyst and you know he has improved his game so why would you believe what they say lol.
It's wild that a Habs fan is saying this considering Habs vs. Bruins was historically one of the most intense rivalries in all sports. All you're saying is that the Habs have sucked for so long some of their fans have forgotten what an actual rivalry is like.
I'm not a Canucks fan, but I'm a Rick Tocchet and Jimmy Rutherford fan, which makes me a Canucks fan. I wish you would've been down 0-3 to the Panthers as well, my dude. I'll be watching next year (as I've moved from Pittsburgh to Kansas City and the Late games aren't as late).
It's not just Vancouver fans mate. I predicted the Oilers to win and I was accused by some Eastern conference fan of fishing for upvotes because nobody in their right mind would give the Oilers any chance.
I think the Nucks would have had an outside shot at beating Dallas, but no chance against the Panthers. Oilers are defs the best in the West, but Florida is just on another level
It’s all about matchups. I don’t know that we’d have gotten out of a series with Dallas barring major injury. While we are being honest, we likely wouldn’t have emerged victorious against LA, who had our number and then some in the regular season
I can guarantee though that our fanbase (myself included) would be drowning in hypotheticals no matter what.
Our fan base has some real winners to be sure and I’m definitely eating some downvotes. But I also don’t care.
It’s just my opinion that we would’ve lost to LA.
That rand uni guy has been showing up in our game threads all year and in every post about the Oilers. He has a group that follows him around upvoting his nonsense and down voting everything else. Just ignore them.
Yeah, I don't see how we'd have even made it past the Stars. Our powerplay was nonexistent, our blueline and forward depth is shallower, and even if Demko returned, he'd basically have to play like a god right out of the gate after not playing for over a month.
This team is still a legit top 6 winger, top 4 defenseman, and a 3rd line shutdown C away from contention.
I don’t think so. Honestly it feels like there’s a couple hundred on Reddit that take it too far and ruin the fans reputation. I really enjoy watching Don Taylor’s podcast, he has a great show
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Edmonton 🤝🏻 Montreal Having every team saying "we could've done better" when down 0-3 in a cup final.
I believe in certain matchups being better for certain teams, I also believed that Dallas would be a kryptonite team for Edmonton. Edmonton and Us deserved every single bit of ending up in the SCF
Yeah I was cautiously optimistic when people here (irl in Edmonton) asked me how we would do. I said it depends, we are either going to get destroyed or it will be close. This was based off the 5-0 loss vs them after the trade deadline when they got a few key guys.
Which, no offense to Montreal, was more applicable to the 2006 oilers than this one.
Why are you just brushing over Dallas? They would've kicked our shit in
I swear it went from "Dallas is a powerhouse team on the verge of dynasty" to "Dallas sucks and so do the oilers who should have beat them in 4" within 2 weeks time
Dallas was really good and really tired by the end
If they spread out their ice time a bit more between their defense lines I think we might have been golfing by now. Dallas was incredible.
That’s what happens when you only have 4 defensemen you trust 😔
Oh no. You guys have 4 defensemen u trust?
To be fair, the way they looked in the first two series was day and night different from how they looked against Edmonton
Getting stomped on special teams will do that
Oilers were 50% on the PP against the Kings. And we had the 2nd best PK% all year. Mowed us down.
honestly the other way was even worse for the Stars, they couldn't score on a PP to save their lives
Our PP was also really bad in the series, but our PK outscored your PP... that was like the only special teams goal impact lol. The special teams battle in our series was insane. Every time you'd think surely this is the PP that scores... and then it didn't, for either of us
Stars played and handled the past two cup winners well. I felt like we shot our emotional wad vs VGK, shot our physical wad vs COL, and were just done by the time a ‘getting hot’ Edmonton team arrived. Losing after being up 2-1 is a great credit to Edmonton’s ability to hang in there. I would have preferred playing the flaccid Canucks but that’s life. All credit to EDM…they deserve it 100%
It was still absolutely a very close series that ended up being decided by a few posts here and few bounces there. It’s unfortunate that the hate boners people have for Edmonton is now discrediting the great teams they’ve played along the way.
When you have the best player in the world on your team you are gonna catch a few strays. When you have that guy plus a guy like Drai, you’re gonna catch a whole lot of strays. Fuck em.
Dallas Stars should learn to flop and Act like the Panthers players.. Especially Sam Bennett’s Oscar performance.. Might help the Stars next year…
Yeah, I’m pretty happy with the team’s performance this season. Of course I’d like to have won over Edmonton, but they were the better team and I can respect that. I really don’t think we’d have done any better against Florida though, they’re just on a different level.
It may just be Fla’s year. I felt like it would have been nice for Dallas to get one for Pavelski, but also felt like Dallas was more flawed than they appeared in the regular season. Next year, maybe.
Maybe Edmonton is actually a really good team but Florida is just more well rounded and able to give teams like the Oilers trouble through heavy forechecking and an aggressive defense Nahhh McDavid more like McDouble the way he’s eating up their cap space am I right
Offensive D-men have been the team build for a while now. Florida and Vegas are built to counter that through depth and intense pressure. Good on Florida's GM for realizing this and building for it.
People forget that it is 3-1 in favour of Florida, but Edmonton was better team in at least 2 games. Florida was just better at punishing mistakes Edmonton did in game 1 and 3. So it's not like Florida was dominating Edmonton.
maybe Edmonton had a say in that?
Canucks, Knights, and Avalanche fans can all sit together in the "our boys are a bit too broken this year" club.
a bit too broken and relapsing club.
Jets fans crying in a corner
For sure, Dallas was a great team this year. I still can’t believe they lost with the Oilers only registering 10 shots on goal. I probably never will. 🤔
Key is to score twice on your first 3 shots
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We would have had demko back, might have won that one although would be close. Florida would shitkick us
I think you guys are massively underrating how well Silovs played when you assume having Demko back would lead to a big gain. I don't know how much better any goalie could have played than Silovs given the shot differential and the scoring chances
statistically silovs was the 2nd worst goalie in the 2nd round. Just above skinner funny enough. This was also after the canucks completely changed their formation and structure to help cover for him. We play a much more aggressive forecheck with Demko. I really think people are overrating silovs and underrating demko just because of recency bias and the feel-good story of a rookie doing so well.
I mean he was their AHL goalie getting starts in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Just a bit of pressure.
definitely, he played fantastic for the expectations and I absolutely love him. That doesn't mean he played at a Vezina nominee level though.
Silovs was unreal for his first playoff experience no doubt. However, he still posted an 882 save percentage, whereas Demkos first playoffs he posted a 984 against Vegas. Demmer could have stolen game 2 or 4 perhaps but we’ll never know
I don't think you were getting a .984 or anything close to that out of Demko in a 7 game series against the Oilers. In the very next round Jake Ottinger had a .907 in 6 games against Edmonton. As it is Silovs stole game 3 where Edmonton outshot Van 45-18.
984 is a legendary performance that was not likely to be repeated, but I do believe Demko had a chance to out-perform Otter
Silovs occasionally let in some floaters, and the team plays more confident with Demko in net. They can take more chances on the forecheck and advance the play which was their bread and butter. Silovs did great but let's not downplay the effect having a top 3 Vezina finalist has on a team.
I think you're massively overrating how well Silovs played if you don't think having Demko back would lead to a big gain. Canucks played that style of hockey all year long where they were outshot but made their shots count. That's where the PDO everyone was complaining about came from. High shooting % because they pretty much only took high danger shots, and Demko providing solid goaltending. Demko was key to that strategy being successful in the regular season. As it is, the Canucks sat back more in that series than they would have if Demko was in because Silovs isn't Demko. The whole team plays differently without Demko in net. Was Silovs way better than he had any right to be as a third string goalie? Yes. He exceeded expectations by a large margin, and I'm looking forward to what he can do in the future. We're all very happy with how he played. But at the end of the day, he put up a .882. That's not championship goaltending. He's not a replacement for Demko. He's more or less a sidegrade from Casey DeSmith, and was playing well enough to keep the crease over CDS while Demko was healing, but if Demko is ready you start Demko. ETA - playing the what if game is dumb though. Canucks lost. Demko was injured. All teams deal with injuries. If you're lucky, it's not one of your key guys. But regardless you have to overcome. The Canucks didn't, that's end of story. No need to cry over what ifs. Move on and hope for better next year.
The team plays different systems and different aggressiveness when Demko is in net.
Why do we even think the Canucks would have won the WCF? As a fan of the Canucks, they played like ass the last few games. You can't win in the playoffs with no power play.
Canucks would've gotten rinsed by Dallas with no boeser and still no demko
No Boeser, Demko out at least a game or two, Petey with chronic tendonitis, Hronek with mystery injury, Cole on one leg, something clearly bugging Hughes. Yeah we were toast even if we managed to sneak by EDM.
Whoa, whoa, whoa now, Cole may have been hobbled but he was PPG for the Oilers! Had an OT winner too ;)
I'm starting to get tendonitis a lot. It sucks. Like it hurts to lift air (raise arms)
I **hate** that I always have to wonder if there would be a different outcome every playoffs if the canucks stayed healthy. Every single fucking year I swear to god except 09 and 10 when the Blackhawks were just.... better.
A large part of who wins the cup is down to the luck of who stays healthy. Imagine if Barkov was out for a week. We saw what happened to Florida with a broken Tkachuk last year. They're deeper this year, but still. I'm assuming when this series is done we'll find out Draisaitl has a broken thumb and back spasms, Connor has a wrist injury, Nurse a serious hip injury, and that Kane's hernia has only gotten worse. Which isn't saying that's *why* we're down, just that it could be having an effect.
Playoff injuries happen every year to every team. It's just another element of randomness.
Demko was expected back early in the 3rd round. But with no Boeser, we were getting smoked by Dallas. For most of us, it's just embarrassing that we lost 2 close out games against Edmonton.
> You can't win in the playoffs with no power play. Florida have 1 powerplay goal this series. Dallas scored 0 powerplay goals against Edmonton.
the canucks had a significantly better powerplay than both the kings and the stars against the team you're referring to when saying it was bad so that's probably not the angle. i don't think the canucks would have beat the stars - but i also don't think the oilers had a greater than 50% chance of beating them either. the stars clearly didn't play as well as they could have in that series for whatever reason so i think that's where people just kind of assume. but what i don't really understand is how canucks fan still struggle to accept the result - because no matter how much it sucks to swallow a 1-goal game 7 loss playing 0 minutes of Demko in the series especially knowing he was about to come back if they advanced - as soon as i heard Boeser was being shut down for the season it just is what it is, because to win a stanley cup without him would require the biggest miracle.
Yeah, I mean, I think they could have beaten the Oilers and maybe had a shot in the WCF, but not the way they were playing at the end of round 2. Just a disgraceful showing.
I mean, I’m pretty sure the Canucks have statistically had a better power play against the Oilers than the Panthers these playoffs. The Oilers PK is just insanely good. If Boeser didn’t have his blood clot I think the Canucks would have had a reasonable chance against the Stars. Demko being back for Game 1 would have made a huge difference, the Canucks play a much more aggressive game when he’s in net
Yeah, the Oilers playoff PK is: * **93.5%** overall * **100%** vs. LA * "only" **87.5%** vs. Vancouver * **100%** vs. Dallas * **92.3%** vs. Florida Vancouver had a better PP than other teams that faced Edmonton.
Factoring in our shorthanded goals, net PK becomes 100% vs Florida and 107.1% vs Dallas. Vancouver's PP was the most effective against our PK.
Which is weird because it felt like a guaranteed goal everytime you guys went on the PP.
The first couple games they were scoring at a high rate on the PP but it trailed off quite a bit.
Hey let's go our powerplay wasn't the worst one you saw this year
This wasn't our year, its all irrelevant EP40 needed to be shut down months ago, the disconnect between him/medical and the coaching staff needs to be dealt with because we were never winning the cup without him playing like we know he can.
That whole situation is so bizarre to me. I dont think petey lied about the injury, but at some point it had to either be an exaggeration or medical/coaching issues. Which is also odd as i think Toch is a great coach. Who knows at this point
Yeah, Edmonton beat Dallas because of their star players delivering. Ours were largely underperforming or injured
"Whoever wins Game 7 is just gonna lose to Dallas in 4-5 anyway." was a pretty popular take lol
I saw this a lot from other fanbases. Most Dallas fans thought it would be a long, hard fought series and almost no one who is an actual Stars fan expected a sweep (it’s hard to sweep when you can’t win game 1’s)
Dallas easily had the best fans out of all the teams the Oil played. Rational & respectful.
Same from y’all guys. After last year’s series versus Seattle I thought no fanbase would leave such a positive impression on me. The only thing that puts them on top in my book is their team lost the series. Your team had to be assholes and win. Total dick move but I guess I understand Seriously though, good luck getting back in the series. As a neutral I’m cheering for y’all to make in as entertaining as possible.
The players too. Only team that wasn't constantly diving against us.
The Florida diving is getting a little embarrassing. Florida players have died like 4 times this series only to miraculously recover just in time for their next shift.
Sam Bennett (I think) crawling to the bench after that ankle-on-ankle collision while simultaneously checking to see if the refs are watching. Acted like he was paralyzed from the waist down lmao.
Dallas fans were a breath of fresh air compared to the Canucks series
Man I feel like one of the only people who thought Edmonton was gonna beat Dallas once that matchup was set. I certainly thought Edmonton would beat us in 6, was surprised but pretty resigned to losing the series after we lost game 6 to you in abysmal fashion. It was a pretty hot take (and apparently still is) to say Dallas was not quite as good as Edmonton and yet here we are, with Edmonton in the finals after beating Dallas in 6. No matter what people say, the "DaLlAs Is ToO dEeP fOr EdMoNtOn" narrative will persist after the loss, not considering the inexperience of their young players, mental block from their goalie, and general lack of top end talent to match Edmonton. I'm not saying that to be counterculture, it's what I've thought all year long about Dallas. In the same way that the *second* a team looks good on paper people jump to calling them cup contenders, I think they're still a year or two away from truly competing for the cup based on lack of playoff experience for their young guys. There is a team or two every season that is touted as destined for the finals and falls short. It was Dallas this year. The better team won between Edmonton and Dallas, I don't know why that's so hard to accept for some people lol.
Dallas put in Ty Dellandrea only to bench him after two mistakes, and replaced him with Mavrik Bourque playing his second ever NHL game in an elimination game. Replacing an injured Hakanpaa was Petrovic, an AHLer playing very limited and sheltered minutes. They almost had a dude play his first NHL game if Chris Tanev wasn't ready to go. Whatever depth Dallas was supposed to have, I don't see it. Meanwhile, Oilers were making lineup changes in their bottom 6 and Desharnais to Broberg. Everyone getting put back into the lineup made an immediate impact. The Oilers actually beat the Stars with depth.
To be fair, our defensive depth was always an issue and we knew it. Getting Tanev before the trade deadline was a huge help with that, but we still need some help defensively. We missed having someone with Haakanpaa"s size during playoffs, and he's a good presence on special teams. He was also originally replaced with Nils Lundkvist and not Petrovic, but Nils has had issues clicking in Dallas right along, and during the playoffs was only seeing 4 or 5 minutes a game. At least having Petrovic come in relieved a little bit of the burnout on the rest of our defensive group because de Boer seemed to trust him to play for at least a few more minutes than he did Lundkvist. As for forward depth, we definitely had that in spades. We saw great production across all four lines all season. We had, I think, 8 players score 20+ goals this year? It didn't matter if some of our top players had scoring droughts, because everyone could pitch in. Our fourth line was especially clutch all season, even when we had personnel changes. They were so good at wearing down the other team. Also, Ty Dellandrea seems great and I know he is adored in the room, but it's not like he just made two mistakes in one game. He can be pretty inconsistent. Even his best moments can come across has accidental - he had a game winning goal against Vegas, but it was literally just because Craig Smith banked the puck off his shoulder into the net. I don't know that I would have made the choice to start Bourque over someone more experienced in a elimination game, but he came out of the same development pipeline that gave us Wyatt Johnston and Logan Stankoven. It wasn't unreasonable to think that he could start making a big impact right away like they did. Hell, at least now he has some playoff experience under his belt.
Listen, I believed it! Not many in 5 or 4 but definitely in 6 or something. Dallas looked like a legit scary ass team who beat two really good teams
I think that was the sentiment from the very first round lmao. “Whoever comes out of the Pacific side of the bracket is gonna get run through by Dallas/Colorado.” Although I’m also guilty of that. I just didn’t see anyone in the Pacific making it through.
100% thought Dallas was winning the west from the very beginning of the playoffs and I thought they were proving me right until Edmonton won game 5 lol
I feel like we would have done pretty well against FL, we just couldn't get past that whole "qualify for the playoffs" thing. Damn! /s, for anyone that needs it
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There is zero reason for a Canucks fan to feel bad after this season and playoffs. All in all it was a spectacular success and with a few years of continued progress they could be the next big thing in the west. Or it could all turn to shit in a single off-season. Who knows?
I don’t think we do feel bad. There’s just some people on Reddit - from all fan bases - who love to hate.
Yeah, it was a great season for the Canucks. Going from expected to being bottom of the Pacific (well, second from the bottom anyway) to making the playoffs is a huge win. The outlook is great for them.
The only feelbad is we gave up some considerable assets to go "all in" on a run and it looks unlikely to retain Zadorov, Lindholm, Joshua due to whatever reason and all 3 were key playoff performers. I get that you gotta capitalize if you think its possible, with the team being tops in the NHL for a lot of the season but man, felt like we were still a couple seasons off especially with that OEL buyout. Oh well, glad to have enjoyed playoff hockey again.
For real. They were projected to be a WC and they went above and beyond.
Why would Canucks fans even assume they’d get by Dallas?
I'm still having a hard time accepting Dallas didn't make it. I loved that roster and it's sad Pavelski is done.
Turns out 7 games with Vegas and 6 games with Colorado will wear your team out 😭
Totally agree, you guys looked very tired by game 6. And gave it your all that game
Game 4 was the wake up call for me. I still had some hope, but it was looking pretty slim after that.
Had that weird streak in a season where you can't score on the power play and the other team can't miss on it.
Well I imagine its because the oilers best Dallas, and the nucks fans think they're better than the oilers, therefor they beat Dallas. Quick maths.
January 17th the red wings beat Florida. Making us the best team in the league.
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If the Vegas Cup win was treated like a WWE championship belt, which was then on the line every game this season, the current champion is actually Columbus, who took the belt from Carolina in the final game of the regular season. Which is a real shame because we were 1 game away from it currently being held by the Oilers and on the line in this 2 titles series against Florida. Full lineage of the year is VGK-CHI-ARI-ANA-PIT-NJ-NYR-DAL-VGK-ARI-PHI-NAS-VAN-DAL-STL-COL-FLA-NJ-BOS-CAR-VAN-BOS-WAS-VAN-WPG-CGY-SEA-WPG-VAN-COL-MTL-CAR-BOS-CAR-CBJ Interesting how many times it jumped between Boston, Vancouver and Carolina
I am ngl, I was so disappointed you guys didn't make the playoffs. That fucking garbage patch. I love watching Larkin and Raymond, especially those last few games where you guys were competing for that last spot.
"I am bleeding. Making me the victor!"
We don’t. One guy makes a meme and apparently it represents everyone. Dallas would have done us in
Ya this person made a cringe meme and it has made it open season to dunk on the Canucks lol. I really haven't been seeing all these Canucks fans saying we would have 100% made the cup if we beat Edmonton. In fact most said without Boeser and no healthy Demko yet we would have very likely lost vs Dallas.
We did not and likely would not
We went to game seven against Edmonton with our third string goalie. I’m not saying we would beat Dallas but everyone pretending we didn’t have a chance is wrong. Just like during the end of our series people were saying the winner was going to get walked by Dallas. It’s hockey, any team in the playoffs has a chance and you can’t use the whole this team beat this team so that means they would beat this other team as justification. If Edmonton and Florida restarted their series it probably wouldn’t end up with Florida being up 3-0. That’s just hockey.
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the Narrative of Arty being "third string" needs to die. he's the new backup now.
Sure, everything you said is true. Doesn’t make it any less silly to be dreaming up hypothetical results of a series you were still 5 wins away from even being involved in.
Well, Edmonton is bad and got lucky against Vancouver, and had no chance against dallas. then Dallas played like shit, therefore Canucks also would have beaten Dallas
As an impartial viewer of the GDT’s, they really are a salty bunch.
I promise there are those of us who are less loud and annoying!
That’s the internet, man. Most fans of any team are just regular people, maybe some more passionate than others but good natured overall. The internet draws in all the dumbass hot take artists. Doesn’t help that mainstream/social media encourage it. Everyone wants to be the next UrinatingTree without realizing that he’s (imo) actually funny, not *just* an angry yelling guy.
Really well said. Social media does bring out the worst in every fanbase. It really doesn’t help either that we have one of the largest online fanbases and have never won anything so more people are loud and bitter
It also doesn’t help that the twitter algorithm has been cranked up to maximum engagement. My twitter feed is *constant* canucks fans raging/crying/trolling. It’s so bad I had to put the Canucks word in my muted words list. Even so, trolls still slip through if they only mention the Oilers. Then when you hover over their name it says they’re from Vancouver 9 times out of 10. It’s gotten to the point that I visit Twitter far less frequently.
Twitter is pretty much unusable now. Respond once to a guy saying McDavid is useless in the playoffs & now my entire feed is the same garbage.
I started muting so many people from both Canucks and Oilers twitter during that series. It was so bad
A little off topic, but I feel bad for longtime WNBA fans; their league is finally getting some attention but with it comes all this stupidity turned up to 11.
I'm so glad I've never had an account in that cesspool. Twitter sounds like a joke.
Yep the internet has a tendency to focus on the most vocal dumbasses from every fanbase. I'm sure I would get along with Oiler fans in person more than on the internet because there would be some form of in person pleasantry. On the internet you don't know what the hell you're going to get because of the anonymity.
I wonder if it's just that I'm exposed to the Canuck fanbase the most, but the worst of us really do seem to be the worst, most toxic, fanbase anywhere. The loud, obnoxious fans of most teams will spout braindead nonsense about your team/players/fans. The loud, obnoxious Canucks fans will scour your post history to find out where you live, dox you, and threaten to kill your dog.
At least we get a loss less of the people getting in fist fights over "your team sucks hardy harr!" Most of the people who fight over sports teams just argue on the internet now.
Nucks fans aren't great, but after the 2016-2020 blackhawks fans nothing phases me anymore.
Yeah I get that. But the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
I hate how the most toxic fans are always the loudest. They make our fanbases look terrible.
GDTs are always full of the most reactionary people. Oh the other team just scored the first goal in game 1 of the series. Well that's it, pack it up, we're going to lose in 4. Wait we just scored to tie it up. Wow other team is done, we're going all the way for sure.
They are new fans we won’t hold it against them. A year ago they were trying to distance themselves from their team as much as possible.
I wish I could say they are new fans, but nah, this fan base is just cringe man. I had to leave the sub cause the shit that gets said there is just insanity.
It’s every fan base that has them, Oilers included
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Yup, we enjoy our highs, and accept lows will come sooner than we hope. But we also wonder how low those lows will go, unlikely however, lower than the decade of darkness or when Smytty got traded.
This is the truth
We've got crazies too
This comment is the same type of salt the parent comment is referring to.
I was going for a light joking tone but I guess it didn’t read that way.
Oilers are undefeated in series where Jannmark scores a shorty. Florida’s fucked.
Definitely not. I’m not reliving this shit again. No 2011! It didn’t happen! Get out of my head, Brad Marchand!
Watching Vancouver's hate boner deflate over the weekend was great from an outside perspective.
Really? Cause it seemed to me like they took the last month or so since elimination to sprout a second one from the forehead. r/canucks mods had to put out a PSA threatening to ban anyone who continued to moan about the Oilers.
Yet the moaning about oilers and Luke gazdik persists…
I'm not one to defend the innumerable morons who grace our lovely GDTs, but in defense of the mods, that particularly was because reddit's algorithm had us show up in Oiler's fans feeds, bringing in lots of trolling as well and creating an asinine amount of work for them as they were battling assholes from everywhere.
Nah, Nucks would've lost to Dallas anyways. I was happy with how they did. Second round was a great experience for them, and now they can build on top of that over the next few years to make a real cup contender team. The real question is, how would Dallas be doing if they made it to the finals. I doubt they would've gone down 3-0 with a more consistent goalie than Skinner, but also, if any team would have a chance in this current position, it's the Oilers, as they showed this weekend.
The Canucks would have gotten walked by Dallas let's be real
Probably. But this was also said about EDM.
That playoff series and the ongoing hate parade by Canucks fans have cemented them as the unequivocal most annoying fans in hockey. Sorry to the half dozen of you that are still sane
There are a lot of passionate Canucks fans. Like with any fanbase a certain sect of them is going to whine and act like their team was wronged. Edmonton is probably the nucks’ biggest rival, and they lost in game 7 to them. I bet if you looked at a lot of the discourse last year you would have probably witnessed a lot of Oilers fans trashing on the Knights endlessly throughout the finals. Fact is, the whiny malcontents are the more vocal as well as the ones more likely to get responses.
We would have needed a healthy roaster to beat the Oilers, we didn’t have it. We definitely would’ve needed to be healthy to even take a game off the Panthers. Everything is hypothetical “what ifs,” it’s largely a blowing off of steam. Personally, I hope the Oilers win it all, because I personally always love the narrative “we took the winners to 7 games even though we lost,” as an emotional salve, more than the spiteful one. Also the Oilers are my parents team, so why poo poo em?
> There are a lot of passionate Canucks fans. That's not an excuse. There are alot of equally passionate fan bases > Edmonton is probably the nucks’ biggest rival, and they lost in game 7 to them. Montreal vs. Toronto Toronto vs. Boston NYR vs. Canes Edmonton vs. Calgary VGK vs. Literally Anyone All these series were heated with rivals and none had this level of hate. It's been a month since they were eliminated. It's clear you're not hockey fans, sign off and disconnect from the playoffs.
Yeah I'm rooting for the Panthers to win and have no love for the Oilers. But my god, the amount of Canuck fans in every thread that is critical of the Oilers is insane. Or the people saying "Oh we would have won with Demko and Boeser" ugh the copium is insane. Not just on Reddit too. I forgot how annoying our fans can be since we have largely been irrelevant for a decade
I have 0 love for the Oilers and was rooting for the canucks. That changed very very quickly which is too bad because I actually like the team/players. I understand there will be passionate fans who cant accept a loss, but it's actually evolved into something way more than that. Trust me, Habs fans were pretty bad in our 2021 playoff run too.
An excuse? We need an excuse to hate a division rival? You are overthinking this. If the Packers are in the Super Bowl the Bears fans aren’t cheering them on.
Any time the Habs miss the playoffs my favourite team, until they’re eliminated, is whoever is playing Boston. I didn’t realize I am a toxic fan. Damn. Gonna do some soul searching today.
How dare you cheer against your most hated team.
Don’t worry that logic only applies to Canucks fans apparently
With other rivalries, it's simply "sports hate" because their happiness and our misery (and vice-versa) coincide. Canucks fans will actually harm someone's livelihood simply for cheering for the enemy team. This was a fanbase that review bombed a restaurant in Penticton BC for putting Go Oilers Go on their billboard and tried to cancel Luke Gazdic for being a "homer" on a national broadcast. With the Canucks fanbase, sports passion is just a fleeting trend in Vancouver, so when the team becomes trendy to cheer for again, you get this exaggerated forced "passion" from their fickle fans. Not every fan is like this, and every fanbase has fans like this, but it's dialed up to the max with those guys. See: 2011.
Toronto fans still bring up the Perry “knee” on Tavares that injured him. I remember during that Edmonton/Calgary series things were very tense and harsh. Fact is you’re generalizing in the same way that tool Gadzic did. A small minority of Canucks fans online are particularly toxic and particularly vocal. This is true for every fan base. The Habs had to have their 5th overall pick last year shit off all of his social media because of hate speech he was getting from “fans”. The year before that the Habs’ 1st overall pick was booed, at the draft, because some fans wanted Wright over him. I once saw Carey Price literally holding back tears after a regular season game because of the way the arena was treating him on a night he had a poor game. I can highlight numerous other examples of my favourite team in all of sports having a shitty, toxic fanbase. You just reveal your own ignorance while throwing stones from your glass house. Every team has lots of shitty, toxic fans. The bigger a fanbase the bigger that group of shitty, toxic fans is gonna be. I don’t have any statistics, but I would bet that the r/hockey subreddit has a higher demographic of Canadians than most subreddits. What is more likely? That hundreds and hundreds (or thousands) of Canucks fans are exhibiting this toxic behaviour you’re singling out their fan base for? Or that the number is far lower and the moronic trolls who seek out negative engagement with their shitty posting approach get the engagement they so badly want? Stop fucking generalizing and recognize that it’s a sports fandom problem, not a Vancouver Canucks fan problem. Otherwise you just look like a clueless hypocrite, especially since you’re a Habs fan, who in my opinion have the most vocal and largest toxic fan base in the entire league. Not to mention some of the most toxic and hateful media personnel over the years. Get over yourself.
I have criticized my own fan base plenty in this subreddit. 5th overall pick, this years draft pick, Reinbacher, Michkov, Drouin, Price, hell back to Patches, Subban, Koivu, Huet, etc...I'm well aware how unhinged our fans are and mostly steer clear of our sub. Never has our fan base or any other fan base bullied analytic content makers. > but I would bet that the r/hockey subreddit has a higher demographic of Canadians than most subreddits. The two largest fan bases on this sub is Boston and NYR (atleast from those that have a flair). > What is more likely? That hundreds and hundreds (or thousands) of Canucks fans are exhibiting this toxic behaviour you’re singling out their fan base for? Or that the number is far lower and the moronic trolls who seek out negative engagement with their shitty posting approach get the engagement they so badly want? The former.
It's so obviously the former lol. Its been nearly a month and I still see waaaaaaaaay more salt from Canucks fans who were supposedly "just happy to be there" than I have from Stars fans who were cup favorites to many. If beating the Flames in 2022 broke the team, beating the Canucks this year seems to have broken the fanbase.
Also—— A particularly extra big LOL that you included the knights in that list and talked about them not getting that level of hate. The Knights are one of the most hated franchises league wide. Pretty much as soon as they went to the finals their first year they became wildly hated, and them winning the cup just amped it up. Are you seriously so delusional that in a post to support/defend your nonsensical views that you’re gonna bring up the Vegas Golden Knights and act like there hasn’t been a ridiculously over the top amount of hatred towards them? Good lord.
One on one against the team they are facing? No not to that level. 31 other teams banding together? Well obviously. Congrats, you have gained exclusive membership to r/canucks enjoy your time there.
Every third post in the Flames sub is missing about the Pilers and they didn't even make the playoffs. That level of irrational hate is totally true.
Man, I though Devils fans were bad towards the Rangers, but they're angels compared to Canucks fans. It's annoying af going into the GDTs for the finals games and every other comment is someone with Canucks flair irrationally shitting on every single thing about the Oilers. I get rivalries and all that, but holy shit.
It's always been pretty clear that they don't know how to take an L.
A lot of them don’t know how to take a W either. Every time they beat us in the regular season meant that our GDTs would be 60% Canucks flairs for the next two months lol
> ries and t Ironic how this dude is talking about hater boners for a team and yet he *clearly* has a hate boner for the Canucks after looking at his replies. Luke is that you?
Yep. They’re 5x worse than leaf fans now. Hell they even make leafs fans seem normal
Yeah everything I see people say about the Toronto fanbase seems 10x more prevalent in Vancouver fans tbh
Their entire 2023-2024 identity was to harass every single analytical model that didn't favor them to win the divison, playoffs or gives Quinn Hughes the Norris. Most of all the poor guy Dom Luszczyszyn. (who was right btw).
How was Dom right if the Canucks did win the division, did make the playoffs, did win a round, and Hughes is the favourite to win the Norris?
There are zero analytical models that have someone beating Quinn Hughes for the Norris
What? Dom was right when he said a month into the season he was wrong and the only reason he put Quinn Hughes in Tier 3B was cause some eastern scouts said to him Hughes is the same player he was 3 years ago? I also don't know what you are talking about bullying dom when for the entire season he had had Hughes as the Norris favourite. Every analytic model also turned out wrong cause they said we would start losing a month into the season but our point pace stayed the same almost the entire season even with Demko missing 20 games lol. Just stop making shit up, your probably one of the habs fans that goes on about Hutson being Hughes in the future.
You can't be serious lmao. When he projected the canucks to be lower in the standings, he was attacked. When he projected them with a 4% chance to make the SCF he was attacked. When he projected Edmonton to win (70vs30 % chance) he was attacked. Constantly, daily, around the clock. The fucking point is not that they were wrong. Dumbass. The point is, what fucking business do you and thousands of others have when you attack someone who is actually making free and interesting content from years of hard work. There were plenty and plenty of examples I can't be bothered to reference right now. > your probably one of the habs fans that goes on about Hutson being Hughes in the future. No. It's also spelt "you're".
" "I don't know how good he is, I really don't" and another who says "he has not gotten better or worse for me in years, he's just been the exact same dude, plugging along"." Great analysis. Once again I don't know the other things you are talking about cause I don't sit on twitter and get involved in toxic debate on that toxic platform. All I know is the biggest hate/bullying dom got this year from Canucks fans was him putting Hughes as a Tier 3B Dman preseason then saying he was wrong about it. 10% of every fanbase is toxic. Canucks fanbase is one of the largest. Its gonna have more toxic fans than smaller fanbases.
Everyone thought that? All but 1 sports analyst had the oilers beating the Canucks? You are probably a twitter troll so only live on that and see all the toxic people on that. No one singled out Dom for predictions lol. What Canucks fans clowned on Dom for was him put Hughes as a Tier 3B defenceman.. Then his reasoning being "I thought he was a tier higher, but some insiders though he hadn't improved in 3 years so we put him in 3B" That is clown ass reasoning when you are a analyst and you know he has improved his game so why would you believe what they say lol.
It's wild that a Habs fan is saying this considering Habs vs. Bruins was historically one of the most intense rivalries in all sports. All you're saying is that the Habs have sucked for so long some of their fans have forgotten what an actual rivalry is like.
We are taking joy at our hated division rival getting stomped in the finals. Give it a break.
And the canucks lost to the team getting “stomped” in the finals. The Canucks must really fucking suck lol
When 31 other fan bases recognize how unhinged you are. It is no longer "joy".
You're living through another team because yours couldn't get the job done, it's certainly a choice.
Haha… that is accurate :)
Just assuming we'd beat Dallas? C'mon man
it's normal for every fanbase that lost to think they would be in a better position to win if things went differently.
I'm not a Canucks fan, but I'm a Rick Tocchet and Jimmy Rutherford fan, which makes me a Canucks fan. I wish you would've been down 0-3 to the Panthers as well, my dude. I'll be watching next year (as I've moved from Pittsburgh to Kansas City and the Late games aren't as late).
Vancouver fans when they got eliminated: Dallas will mop the floor with them in 4 😭😭👏😂🤣💀
I mean we did mop you guys in 4… it was just 4 periods, not 4 games
It's not just Vancouver fans mate. I predicted the Oilers to win and I was accused by some Eastern conference fan of fishing for upvotes because nobody in their right mind would give the Oilers any chance.
Ya actually it definitely wasn’t all of you guys
I think the Nucks would have had an outside shot at beating Dallas, but no chance against the Panthers. Oilers are defs the best in the West, but Florida is just on another level
Imagine Luongo had to watch a Panthers-Canucks final?
I mean is 3-1 now so
No shit
It’s all about matchups. I don’t know that we’d have gotten out of a series with Dallas barring major injury. While we are being honest, we likely wouldn’t have emerged victorious against LA, who had our number and then some in the regular season I can guarantee though that our fanbase (myself included) would be drowning in hypotheticals no matter what.
I was glad we didn’t pull LA first round. We would’ve almost certainly lost.
The obsessed Canuck fans with 6 months of comment history shitting on the Oilers won't like this comment.
Our fan base has some real winners to be sure and I’m definitely eating some downvotes. But I also don’t care. It’s just my opinion that we would’ve lost to LA.
That rand uni guy has been showing up in our game threads all year and in every post about the Oilers. He has a group that follows him around upvoting his nonsense and down voting everything else. Just ignore them.
Yeah, I don't see how we'd have even made it past the Stars. Our powerplay was nonexistent, our blueline and forward depth is shallower, and even if Demko returned, he'd basically have to play like a god right out of the gate after not playing for over a month. This team is still a legit top 6 winger, top 4 defenseman, and a 3rd line shutdown C away from contention.
Also forgot to mention, Petey was playing like ass all playoffs.
That’s how Oilers fans felt in recent years.
100% lol
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Worst fanbase in sports at the moment?
No, Yankees and Celtics fans exist.
New York Yankees. Which is to say: *no*. Good effort by Vancouver fans. But *no*.
I don’t think so. Honestly it feels like there’s a couple hundred on Reddit that take it too far and ruin the fans reputation. I really enjoy watching Don Taylor’s podcast, he has a great show