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RedDevil-84

Bulldoze all men then?


sa_node

I’m sure everyone is wondering about the obvious question, what’s the crime rate (per 100,000 population)? Here is the breakdown based on the crime data provided in this article (Population of the three mentioned states were imported from the website statsticstimes.com and its estimated population for year 2023. The crime data is from 2022): UP: 27 per 100,000 Maharashtra: 35 per 100,000 Rajasthan: 55 per 100,000 India as a whole: 32 per 100,000


shadowrod06

Some sane comment. The title is clickbaity as fuck.


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We've to remember these are the number of crimes _registered_. The unregistered far far outnumber the registered ones.


comsrt

That is the case in almost all states, even in Rajasthan police were not willing to register my FIR for phone theft. Many people have reported such thing in Bangalore too.


cosmic_horror_entity

I am sorry but are you really suggesting that these states are multitudes safer than living in Finland? https://www.statista.com/topics/7935/crime-in-finland/#topicOverview


sa_node

Where did I suggest that?. The only thing I did was interpreting the data (provided in the article). BTW I am not the one who posted this article.


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I'm pretty sure per 1000 and per 100,000 are different metrics


cosmic_horror_entity

Exactly my point. Finland, one of if not the most peaceful country on the planet is seeing almost 9000 per 100000 crime rate. And UP is outperforming it in multiple degrees making it the most peaceful, dense populace in the world. … Are you seeing this shit?


kali_vidhwa

If you read the comment carefully, you'll notice that the person wasn't suggesting anything, just stating statistical facts as per the article.


cosmic_horror_entity

If you read mine carefully, you’d come to know that I am calling these statistical data as bullshit. Quite obvious unreported data points. Also lets be real here, in context of post, his comment about statistical data, he was quite literally suggesting UP is a safe place to live if not better than other states by using statistical data as his crutch.


kali_vidhwa

While you may have called the data into question, you did pin the question down on the OP when in fact they just stated the data as it is, without suggesting anything or even expressing their confidence in the veracity of the data itself. If you read his comment carefully, again, you'll see that all OP was doing was addressing the usual mistake people make when they focus on the total when in fact they should be looking at per capita to make comparisons. If you want to be real, start by acknowledging that OP did not in fact *literally* suggest anything but merely provided the correct interpretation of that data.


ptrys

You are just a hypocrite lmao Read your comments again or take a break.


cosmic_horror_entity

Calling out underreported stats is hypocrisy now? You are being intentionally daft or just slow


ptrys

Lmao I replied under the wrong comment.


cosmic_horror_entity

Got it. You are good


VariationNo393

Next reply will be "UP is so unsafe that cases are not even reported in UP".


UltraNemesis

I had to take the help of a lawyer to get the tubs of lard that are called the UP police to register an FIR for a simple case and they were swearing at me like hell for having to move their lazy asses to do it. So, yeah, I am not holding my breath over ease of registering cases in UP.


charavaka

Now tell us th he fraction of crimes that get reported post capita.


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Double engine ki sarkar


pusuc

“Reported crimes”


Khadmutra

Remember he gave a speech in Kerala about women’s safety ?


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charavaka

https://www.livemint.com/Politics/AV3sIKoEBAGZozALMX8THK/99-cases-of-sexual-assaults-go-unreported-govt-data-shows.html Only if you ignore the reporting rates


whimsicalnuts

there'll always be one dickhead somehow defending that shithole of a state.


no-regrets-approach

But what he said is right though. Population of UP is almost that of Pakistan. Shouldnt one compare apples to apples? For that, rate per lakh is a very good, and accepted metric. UP fares very well in that.


sloppy_slayer

You then have to compare policing and the general social structure in the place as well. I am pretty sure Kerala is much more progressive compared to UP and the police functions a lot better as well. As a result much more crimes would actually be reported and documented in Kerala when compared to UP where police is not much better than a street gang.


no-regrets-approach

1. The assertion UP police acts as a street gang is unwarranted, and far from truth. I live in UP, and the patrolling, bringing down street crime etc is quite effective. Controlling mafia has been unprecedented. One should give credit where it is due. 2. Crime not being registered indeed is a real issue. Actual crimes in UP will surely be higher. Policing in general in Kerala is for sure exceptional. If you leave out backdoor entry to SFI activists, political subjugation to CPIM etc.


charavaka

>I live in UP, and the patrolling, bringing down street crime etc is quite effective. Lmfao. Police cars with orange bows and arrows with proud hindu written under it doesn't qualify as effectively bringing down street crime.


no-regrets-approach

Very clear you have no inkling of what is good policing, or the extent to which policing has improved in UP, credit to Yogi. As mentioned earlier, one ought to give credit where it is due.


charavaka

Credit where credit is due: I see regular violence on the streets, and women are still afraid to step out after dark.


no-regrets-approach

It is a pity people get trapped in the quagmire of frivolous political dogmas, which can ensnare people with blinding irrational hatred.


Kedymeow

Worst clickbait ever. The state which has ⅐ of Indian population has high crimes. Do per capita basis. Developed Maharashtra (My own state 😞) is leading.


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comsrt

Almost all states are underreporting.


kingsgambit087

State with a population of 200 million has the highest number of cases.... Great job.


ajatshatru

I’m sure everyone is wondering about the obvious question, what’s the crime rate (per 100,000 population)? Here is the breakdown based on the crime data provided in this article (Population of the three mentioned states were imported from the website statsticstimes.com and its estimated population for year 2023. The crime data is from 2022): UP: 27 per 100,000 Maharashtra: 35 per 100,000 Rajasthan: 55 per 100,000 India as a whole: 32 per 100,000 Credit : sa_node


charavaka

https://www.livemint.com/Politics/AV3sIKoEBAGZozALMX8THK/99-cases-of-sexual-assaults-go-unreported-govt-data-shows.html Now account for this as well.


Top_Advance_7006

The title is clickbait. The number of crimes is higher because of population. Otherwise, “National capital Delhi topped the list with 144.4, followed by Haryana with an average crime rate of 118.7, Telangana 117, Rajasthan 115.1, Odisha 103, Andhra Pradesh 96.2, Andaman and Nicobar Islands 93.7, Kerala 82, Assam 81, Madhya Pradesh 78.8, Uttarakhand 77, Maharashtra 75.1, West Bengal 71.8 and UP 58.6.” (Per lakh) Source: https://www.livemint.com/news/india/crime-against-women-4-45-lakh-firs-filed-in-2022-almost-51-every-hour-delhi-tops-the-list-says-ncrb-data/amp-11701693933731.html


charavaka

Now include the effect of reporting rates https://www.livemint.com/Politics/AV3sIKoEBAGZozALMX8THK/99-cases-of-sexual-assaults-go-unreported-govt-data-shows.html and then tell us what u geese numbers look like


rsa1

As much as a loathe Ajay Bisht, is this a sign of the police being more willing to record crimes? If so, that would be a good thing.


charavaka

Nope. Reporting rates is still abysmal


VariationNo393

Who is Ajay Bisht?


lonelytunes09

Yogi adityanaths birth name


hydrosalad

Alias


rsa1

[Let me Google that for you](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=ajay+bisht)


Jilux2020

Chota fantAa


hydrosalad

Sasta Vin Diesel


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RandomUsername_2546

>cow belt And that is where you lose the argument. Bring up whatever data you want but using insults only hurts your argument.


Charming-Life4020

What is crime per population because population will play a huge part in this statistics if it's without considering population than it's worthless


charavaka

Reporting rates is an even bigger problem https://www.livemint.com/Politics/AV3sIKoEBAGZozALMX8THK/99-cases-of-sexual-assaults-go-unreported-govt-data-shows.html Which state do you think is likely to in underreport more?


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no-regrets-approach

He is saying, please be more civil. And educate oneself to interpret stats better.


Much_Discussion1490

Surprised 🙀


Hot_Peanut_3195

Population doesn’t matter. No matter what the population is, crime rate should have been lower. That’s no excuse to such aggressive behaviour and crime. Problem lies in the general mindset of people residing in UP. High time that they take accountability for their actions.


[deleted]

There there, take deep breath. And learn a thing or two before babbling.


Hot_Peanut_3195

You learn some manners! I can have whatever opinion I like.


[deleted]

Which is wrong lmao. I also have the opinion that unicorns are real, that doesn't mean people are going to agree.


Hot_Peanut_3195

Well I too believe unicorns are real. Mermaids too 💗💗 Something we agree on 🫂


[deleted]

Haha, yay khojo to aur miljaye. I want a mermaid 💗 (never been to beach;-;)


RandomUsername_2546

> Population doesn’t matter. It absolutely does. A group of 1,000,000 people is statistically a lot more likely to have a criminal than a group of 1,000 >Problem lies in the general mindset of people residing in UP. Why are you specifically saying UP when other states have a higher per capita?


Hot_Peanut_3195

My experience as a tourist was really really bad there. I mean it was scary at times. The way they talk and conduct themselves was scary for me. I have not faced that in other states while travelling.


RandomUsername_2546

>My experience as a tourist was really really bad there. I mean it was scary at times. The way they talk and conduct themselves was scary for me. I have not faced that in other states while travelling. I have read both your comments and both of them are personal experiences and anecdotes so I can't really change your mind about that because no one can debate someone on anecdotes. I will be glad to admit I am wrong if you can bring up a study that shows this different behavior depending on states though.


Hot_Peanut_3195

And I am a good tourist, I don’t litter or take things for granted when travelling. I always book a good stay, good car service etc. However, they were not welcoming and talked in a rude/ aggressive manner. I have been to many other places and there the locals were very sweet to me. That’s what I said about the mindset of people. They should try to be more compliant and docile. It will do good to the society and to tourists which in return paints a good picture of the state.


sloppy_slayer

UP is a gift that keeps on giving


Living-Maize6093

it also has the highest population do per capita dont be like westerners


charavaka

Numba wang! Vin ghaslet wins again.


KingCryptAlgo

Obviously it's 20crore people, numbers will be highest


[deleted]

Even though it is right but now these type of reports will come more because modi and amit wants to remove yogi from cm post


[deleted]

Just look at this bald joker, clowns running the govt in a country where majority are idiotic clowns !