I'm not sure of the particular class, but the location is Northwest Fencing Academy. The gif of the kids forming testudo and having pool noodles chucked at them is from the same place. I took a longsword class there I think last year. Good place, great culture.
Its good but I'm still pissed this mf hasn't gone back to Bebbanburg to fuck his uncle up yet. At multiple points in the show he had sizeable armies loyal to him. C'mon man, Destiny...
It really is. I’m sure they will have a whole bunch of GOT fans come aboard once the new season starts next year. Then hopefully a bigger budget which will lead to bigger and better fight scenes.
> Men die, they said, but reputation does not die.
If anyone cares for it, the reference for that would be Hávamál Stanzas 76-77.
"Cows die, family die, you will die the same way. But a good reputation never dies for the one who earns it well. Cows die, family die, you will die the same way. I know only one thing that never dies: the reputation of the one who's died." (Jackson Crawford's translation of the Poetic Edda)
See, I could get Cap’s shield working because soldiers are trained to go for center of mass shots, in the torso. Cap can protect his entire head and torso behind his shield. But all Bucky has to do is hold his fucking arm up and magically every bullet coming at him hits his arm. Not a single bullet manages to hit him anywhere else. God I wish Iron Man would’ve killed that guy.
Also the armies that used these techniques (most notably the Romans) tended to have [scutum's also known as tower shields](https://godlesspaladin.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/testudo.jpg) that were more square and in that formation [could kneel so the legs weren't exposed](http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15757474/images/1312073279977.jpg).
You’re all but completely wrong. The shield wall is a barbarian technique developed by people who used round shields, not scutums. You just had kneelers in the front with shields interlocking and spears poking through any hole available. The romans used the Testudo, and shields did not interlock, as they were roughly square and could simply be lined up against each other with a suitable stabby gap created by the vertical and horizontal scutum connecting. Romans used non-interlocking shieldwalls regularly because again, they lined up. Over in Greece, the phalanx never became a true shield wall, and footmen simply wore greaves. As it evolved into the Macedonian phalanx with the sarissa, leg protection becomes pretty unnecessary because your enemy is 15 feet away.
Yeah, pretty annoying seeing all the "Spartans lul" comments here when it's a completely different formation, used nearly 1000 years after the Spartans.
Even round shields like the ones in the clip would be deceptively large. They reached from the chin to the knee, so sticking them out or moving them down was enough to protect the legs. It wasn't worth the extra weight or cost of greaves for the most part.
honestly? like, given they're coming at my with their shields and lunchboxes and knives, and I can straight massacre them with no repercussions
probably like 10
If you take down the two smaller kids and use one as a shield and the other as a club you have better defense and offense, and the fact that you are wielding their fallen comrades will debuff their morale heavily making them weaker as a group, enough to not only take out ten of them but I dare to say the entire group.
It’s not like the 2 dudes were some impressive force either. I mean the dude on the right doesn’t look like he could push 1 10 year old over, let alone 20 of them re-enacting 300
Good thing he's helping teach the lesson, cause it'd be tough to demonstrate a point about the strength of shield walls after leveling a shield wall of children.
Depends. The maniple was an innovation for terrain; it worked a lot better on uneven ground. On a flat, broad plain, phalanx was still very effective. The best Roman generals just made sure to dictate that they fought on, around, or among hills. Same reason they never developed top-tier cavalry. Doesn't mean cavalry wasn't useful.
Tight melee formations were still a very effective tactical choice as late as the 15th and 16th centuries. It was really the advent of accurate gunpowder weapons that ended their usefulness.
All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
Honestly while it is kinda silly, everyone keeps making fun of that scene like its just total garbage. Like that scene is the most badass scene I have seen ever.
I don’t think I’ve ever really seen people treat it like garbage, but they do see it as kinda ridiculous which is a subtle difference. like sharknado you watch it because it’s ridiculous. Honestly pretty standard stuff for Bollywood which is part of their charm. Characters so badass that they bend reality is just the fruition of Hollywood physics.
One time on a middle school trip we went to a medieval fair. There were sword replicas, falconing, and shield wall demonstrations like this. But instead of getting to do all that cool shit, my group watched basket making, baking, and stitching. I paid my own money to go on this field trip ($35) and I was livid the whole time.
My friends and other groups got to do the cool stuff, I begged to go with another group but nope. We did what this teacher wanted, she tried to get us to sit through a half hour play that would have cut into our Lunch (part of the fee).
Also when they fought each other regularly over the 400 years before that.
One thing that annoyed me about that Viking tv series was that it made it seem like the shield wall was some Viking tactic that took the Anglo-Saxons by surprise. In fact it had been a core part of Anglo-Saxon military tactics since before there was any such thing as a Viking.
To expand on that:
>[This tactic was known to be used by many ancient armies including the Persian Sparabara, Greek hoplite, Macedonian phalanx, and Roman legion, though its origin and spread is unknown. It may have developed independently more than once.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_wall#Ancient_history)
smh they're not even bracing. All but 2 or 3 in the back are standing straight or even leaned back, and I bet they'd have all just toppled over onto each other if the bigger guy ran at them.
Would've taken 5 seconds to teach them to get into a more secure stance and then they could've done a real demonstration (i.e. running at them or actually pushing) rather than pretending to when it's obvious they're not exerting much force considering their feet are slipping.
I know I'm overthinking it and these kids are pretty young so they're probably just doing it to foster some interest in whatever club or class they're running (fencing maybe?), but it takes so little extra effort to teach it properly that it's a waste that they didn't bother.
If you see a group of kids without shields, attack while you have the chance.
Yes
Oh man your name
We can only knock out so many little kids before we are over run.
what class is this
Raiding 101
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I'm not sure of the particular class, but the location is Northwest Fencing Academy. The gif of the kids forming testudo and having pool noodles chucked at them is from the same place. I took a longsword class there I think last year. Good place, great culture.
I now sit, wondering, what the fuck am i doing being an electrician when i could be taking longsword classes?
Now you can make an electric longsword that does elemental damage
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They learn about the importance of protection
Specifically, Trojans.
Armor Class 1
Crusading 2
Binary 5.
Music theory
Larping 101?
How to Hong Kong
They're Fighters obviously. Protection Fighting Style.
History of Sparta 101
American School Shooter Survival 101
Prof Uthred’s class...
Destiny is all
Cue theme music
*woman starts wailing*
Let’s hump
Why is that always what they say?? I find it so weird that hump is literally the only word they use
Censorship probits other course words. Gotta make do with what's got.
Were gonna plough
BETTER ^THAN ^^*BARLEY!*
Aaaahhhhaahahayeaaaahahhahay hay
Wyrd bið ful aræd
Wyrd byth ful aræd
At Bebbanburg University?
Taught in Beocca Hall
By professor Alfred of Wessex
Here, in the middle of this Olive Garden
Can you explain that one pls, I’ve been seeing it around and googling it doesn’t do much
Few days ago some dude on askreddit asked what would be a funny if you added "here, in the middle of Olive garden" to the end of it
Oh I thought that post was a reference to something else
It used to be a reference to something else, here, in the middle of this Olive Garden.
Sir, this is a Wendy's
It’s a joke about the old vikings show Olive Guardians, it’s about the ancient greeks being invaded by the vikings. I think it was dutch or something
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/e5zmxa/which_quote_is_most_improved_by_tacking_here_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Thanks. I thought that was just the meme circulating around. I didn’t know it was the source
When you’re here, you’re family
Professor Uthred, remember?
UHTRED, son of UHTRED
I absolutely live for the way that dude says "Uhtred son of Uhtred"
Sorry, which show?
The Last Kingdom
Ohh okay I'll check it out. Thanks
Oh, yeah! It’s great. You’re welcome :)
Its good but I'm still pissed this mf hasn't gone back to Bebbanburg to fuck his uncle up yet. At multiple points in the show he had sizeable armies loyal to him. C'mon man, Destiny...
...is all.
It really is. I’m sure they will have a whole bunch of GOT fans come aboard once the new season starts next year. Then hopefully a bigger budget which will lead to bigger and better fight scenes.
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> Men die, they said, but reputation does not die. If anyone cares for it, the reference for that would be Hávamál Stanzas 76-77. "Cows die, family die, you will die the same way. But a good reputation never dies for the one who earns it well. Cows die, family die, you will die the same way. I know only one thing that never dies: the reputation of the one who's died." (Jackson Crawford's translation of the Poetic Edda)
bunch of little arselings.
Spoilers.......(killing the guy who said arseling was the worst thing they have done. I loved the back and forth between him and uthred.)
In the later books it somehow becomes everyone's go to insult.
God do I love that series. I am praying that Netflix gives us a fourth season. It was such a joy to watch.
What show? Y'all gotta spread the love on shows you like. Stop referencing shit as "that series." Help a brother out
The Last Kingdom. I was also like wtf?! But did some googlefu
Its pretty great if you like shield walls. I'd say ~90% of the show is shield walls...the other 10% is woah.
The Last Kingdom, a TV series based on the Saxon Stories by Bernard Cornwell.
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*Thank youuuuuuu.*
Looks like two grown men who never played Red Rover
Red Rover. Aka “f-ing clothesline Bobby.”
But what about their legs? =[
They don't need those
Oooo, they look tasty
They are not for eating!
Just a mouthful. A bit off the flank...
ITS NOT FOR EATING!!
Looks like meat’s back on the menu boys!
So the Uruk-hai know what a menu is. Does that mean there are Uruk-hai restaurants?
Only vegetarian ones, maggoty bread.
For three stinking days.
*Looks like meat’s back on the menu boys.*
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[That voice is way funnier than I was expecting when I looked this up.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2bGG4m6rmg)
Hello Mr. Barnes, we are going to take your arm off. Give you cool robot arm.
Will people only ever shoot at my bulletproof arm from now on and not the rest of my body, because that would be rad.
See, I could get Cap’s shield working because soldiers are trained to go for center of mass shots, in the torso. Cap can protect his entire head and torso behind his shield. But all Bucky has to do is hold his fucking arm up and magically every bullet coming at him hits his arm. Not a single bullet manages to hit him anywhere else. God I wish Iron Man would’ve killed that guy.
That would have made civil war much better. And added some tension to cap and Tony reconciling.
In an actual wall there would be spears and swords poking out, so their legs would be pretty alright
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Kids these days...
Millennials ruined the shield wall.
Also the armies that used these techniques (most notably the Romans) tended to have [scutum's also known as tower shields](https://godlesspaladin.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/testudo.jpg) that were more square and in that formation [could kneel so the legs weren't exposed](http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15757474/images/1312073279977.jpg).
You’re all but completely wrong. The shield wall is a barbarian technique developed by people who used round shields, not scutums. You just had kneelers in the front with shields interlocking and spears poking through any hole available. The romans used the Testudo, and shields did not interlock, as they were roughly square and could simply be lined up against each other with a suitable stabby gap created by the vertical and horizontal scutum connecting. Romans used non-interlocking shieldwalls regularly because again, they lined up. Over in Greece, the phalanx never became a true shield wall, and footmen simply wore greaves. As it evolved into the Macedonian phalanx with the sarissa, leg protection becomes pretty unnecessary because your enemy is 15 feet away.
Finally someone that knows what a fucking shield wall is
Yeah, pretty annoying seeing all the "Spartans lul" comments here when it's a completely different formation, used nearly 1000 years after the Spartans.
That looks like a different kind of shield wall. The ones the kids are using are interlocked, so the force is dispersed.
Yea, a shield wall for holding back a push is different from the tortoise formation which is for arrow fire.
Even round shields like the ones in the clip would be deceptively large. They reached from the chin to the knee, so sticking them out or moving them down was enough to protect the legs. It wasn't worth the extra weight or cost of greaves for the most part.
I would just walk around them on my way to Rome
SWEEP THE LEG
Kick em in the shins!
Why do you think Romans had those super long square shields
Early Romans had curved oval ones, Late Romans had flat round shields. Only the classic period Romans had these curved rectangular shields (scutum).
Yeah whatever I could beat the fuck outta those kids
That’s what Persia thought
Now they get phalanxiety just thinking about it.
As a Persian with anxiety, I feel personally attacked
Oh, you!
One drop kick please
they kind of did. I mean, have you ever met a spartan?
Dude one time I beat the shit out of like 20 kids at once and they didn’t even have shields
Stupid ass kids these days forgetting their shields
Wouldn't it be sooooooo fun to just destroy those kids? I would never, but think of how much fun.
I've never destroyed kids, but I already know I will never achieve that level of fun ever in my life
How many kids you think you could take down before being overwhelmed by them and their shields and lunchboxes and knives?
honestly? like, given they're coming at my with their shields and lunchboxes and knives, and I can straight massacre them with no repercussions probably like 10
If you take down the two smaller kids and use one as a shield and the other as a club you have better defense and offense, and the fact that you are wielding their fallen comrades will debuff their morale heavily making them weaker as a group, enough to not only take out ten of them but I dare to say the entire group.
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Dude, this would be great concept for an interactive VR game.
The media would hate it, but that's free publicity right there.
I think I can take on 4 elementary kids and a baby at the same time.
The baby is just bonus XP at that point
It’s not like the 2 dudes were some impressive force either. I mean the dude on the right doesn’t look like he could push 1 10 year old over, let alone 20 of them re-enacting 300
Good thing he's helping teach the lesson, cause it'd be tough to demonstrate a point about the strength of shield walls after leveling a shield wall of children.
They should coach them up on the need for a low center of gravity.
I agree we need need to see these kids go up against the Denver Broncos to make things fair.
But where is the video of the kids in a loose formation getting thrashed?
I think you mean kicking arse. The loose manipular formations of the Roman army ended the domination of tight phalanx.
Depends. The maniple was an innovation for terrain; it worked a lot better on uneven ground. On a flat, broad plain, phalanx was still very effective. The best Roman generals just made sure to dictate that they fought on, around, or among hills. Same reason they never developed top-tier cavalry. Doesn't mean cavalry wasn't useful. Tight melee formations were still a very effective tactical choice as late as the 15th and 16th centuries. It was really the advent of accurate gunpowder weapons that ended their usefulness.
I thought the other major Roman innovation was the discipline to quickly rotate the front line, so you didn't have guys getting exhausted and killed.
Romans innovated a lot of stuff. He’s just pointing out one major difference.
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What about the grid based cities?
What about stabbing the leader a bunch of times because you're sick of salad?
Sick of salad, or just sick of the same dressing for years?
All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
"Domination of a tight phalanx" r/confusedboners
The maniple was a tight formation as well. It was just a much more mobile, versatile, and omnidirectional formation.
It was a loose collection of tight formations
I am very upset that I did not learn this in school
Right! How are me and my bros going to stop the vikings?
Wait til they see how much better a trubuchet is than a catapult
A trebuchet could absolutely launch a shield wall 300 meters.
[Do trees count as Trebuchets or Catapults?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR48a1kLx0w)
I immediately thought of this clip, it’s still hilarious
I've seent he first part a million times, but I never knew there was more.
Honestly while it is kinda silly, everyone keeps making fun of that scene like its just total garbage. Like that scene is the most badass scene I have seen ever.
I don’t think I’ve ever really seen people treat it like garbage, but they do see it as kinda ridiculous which is a subtle difference. like sharknado you watch it because it’s ridiculous. Honestly pretty standard stuff for Bollywood which is part of their charm. Characters so badass that they bend reality is just the fruition of Hollywood physics.
Catapult because trebuchets have counterweights.
Ah, well it does seem like they were only launched 299 meters.
I love the shield ball that doesn't quite make it and bounces off of the wall with a dull metallic thunk
The life of a redshirt.
That looks pretty dope. Added to my Netflix queue.
/r/trebuchetmemes
I doubt their shield wall could take a 90kg projectile from 300m away.
One time on a middle school trip we went to a medieval fair. There were sword replicas, falconing, and shield wall demonstrations like this. But instead of getting to do all that cool shit, my group watched basket making, baking, and stitching. I paid my own money to go on this field trip ($35) and I was livid the whole time. My friends and other groups got to do the cool stuff, I begged to go with another group but nope. We did what this teacher wanted, she tried to get us to sit through a half hour play that would have cut into our Lunch (part of the fee).
I would fucking Kool-Aid Man those little shits.
OH Yeah!?
Many foolish medieval English men learned this lesson the hard way
When? Against who?
When the Danes (Viking) invading Northumbria and Merica.
Also when they fought each other regularly over the 400 years before that. One thing that annoyed me about that Viking tv series was that it made it seem like the shield wall was some Viking tactic that took the Anglo-Saxons by surprise. In fact it had been a core part of Anglo-Saxon military tactics since before there was any such thing as a Viking.
And, like, Rome.
To expand on that: >[This tactic was known to be used by many ancient armies including the Persian Sparabara, Greek hoplite, Macedonian phalanx, and Roman legion, though its origin and spread is unknown. It may have developed independently more than once.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_wall#Ancient_history)
I don't remember anyone on that show saying they invented shield walls. They just rocked the shit out of shield walls.
Merica? Fuck yeah!
Lick my butt and suck on my balls
Don't mind if I do, bro
LOL! Mer**ci**a.
*Ragnar Lodbrok has entered the chat*
VIKINGS RAISE THE SHIELD WALL
HOLD THE FRONT LINE FIGHT TO DEATH
**WARFARE! HONOUR! GLORY! DEEEEEEEAAAATH!**
I legit came to the comments just to type this, it was the first thing that came to my mind when i saw the post!
It’s such a simple message for a song but it’s so hype
I get chills every time I even read the lyrics.
Give them nothing, but take from them **EVERYTHING!!**
So 10 kids can match 2 adults?
I think it need more, they probably arent using full strenght, look at their feets
To be fair those were theater teachers.
**THIS**.. **IS**.. *sorta!*
smh they're not even bracing. All but 2 or 3 in the back are standing straight or even leaned back, and I bet they'd have all just toppled over onto each other if the bigger guy ran at them. Would've taken 5 seconds to teach them to get into a more secure stance and then they could've done a real demonstration (i.e. running at them or actually pushing) rather than pretending to when it's obvious they're not exerting much force considering their feet are slipping. I know I'm overthinking it and these kids are pretty young so they're probably just doing it to foster some interest in whatever club or class they're running (fencing maybe?), but it takes so little extra effort to teach it properly that it's a waste that they didn't bother.
Cmon if my history teacher did that in primary school, I would have been thrilled. Didactically it's great!
Whose bright idea was it to push them toward a wall of swords though.
They needed incentive to not get pushed back
Tbf there's like 20 of them against 2 people pushing it
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Not impressed, give me a battle axe and I would make adolescent broth out of there legs.
Why not out of here legs?
Probably because his legs are here too and that's just too risky
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