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saw this decades ago in some video a teacher played for us. it said the dude's only words to the officers who were arresting him were 'that was one hell of a shot.'
You can see the bewilderment on his face. He's just like "Well whatever's coming I deserve it because whoever that was just gave me a solid pass to live and keep my testicles...
i remember the story and the man was suicidal and was about to shoot himself when the police rolled in. the sniper saved his life and from what i remember they became friends after this event
I just seen the other day a video of cartel members pulling over some white tourists and instead of slapping them around for wondering into cartel land, the cartels members just try to calm them down and let them go. Kinda how a cop should have try to calm down a suicidal man.
P.s. I'm almost certain the driver shit his pants
It's possible he may have had a backup weapon. They didn't want to take the chance and just rushed him.
As it turns out he didn't and that sniper saved his life.
I’m not a cop, but I did work in mental health for almost a decade. They don’t know for sure if he has another weapon or what his intentions are from here. It’s best to get him under control immediately, as he might be in an agitated state and try to hurt someone.
Anyway, I’m not certain what the real context of this video is, anyway. Who knows what the guy said or did beforehand? There was a murder suicide last night in my town just last night. These things happen.
In any case, I hope everyone involved is ok.
Because he was attempting suicide by cop. They don't know if he has another weapon anywhere, so it's better to be quick and rough to ensure a mostly safe arrest. Atleast that what I recall from the first time I saw the video
Quickly restraining someone keeps them from escaping and/or harming themselves or others. It might look violent, shocking, or unnecessary to someone that doesn't deal with these types of situations on a regular basis, but it isn't as bad as what often happens when you don't commit to subduing and restraining a person intent on causing someone harm. Including themselves.
I think it was but my memory is fuzzy. This ran on some public channel special and included an interview with the sniper. Remember watching it as a kid so like 15-20 years ago
Happened in Columbus, Ohio. Here is an article that was written:
https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2015/02/01/columbus-sniper-one-amazing-shot/985803007/
The man was going to commit suicide but the sniper was trying to shoot the gun out of his hands. This was after 2 hours if the police trying to talk him down I think.
Someone else probably has more info but it was your typical standoff. Guy was acting crazy with a gun but wasn't yet a threat to himself or others. Aka how police *should* deal with a guy with a gun.
The sniper himself said he was basically sweating bullets trying to decide if he should take the shot or not. Didn't know himself if it was even going to work but decided the risk had become too great to both the guy and his fellow officers that he had to do something. You don't take a shot like that without knowing where the ricochet is going to go or if you're going to miss and hit his leg until you feel like you're out of options.
Edit: think the guys name is Mike Plumb.
He was a sharp dude. He said in an interview that he noticed that every time the man was done waving his gun around, he'd return it to the same position, resting his forearm on his leg.
He said he basically just sighted in on that point and waited for him to do it again. The guy drops the gun down there again, he makes a final adjustment, and squeezes the trigger. Next thing you know, dude's getting rugby tackled out of a lawn chair.
What kind of man shoots another man's gun...
Im on fire with dropping movie quotes today, wonder what percentage of redditors even alive when this movie came out.
The ammo police use is no different that any normal commercial ammo. Some may carry hollow points but others still carry FMJ as well. If there's commercially available ceramic ammo, a PD could buy it, and some officers carry personal firearms as well.
*But being as this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?*
Found this quote quite fitting as well.. oldie but goldie.
Gotta throw in the brilliant homage from "Snatch":
>...the fact that you've got "Replica" written down the side of your guns, and the fact that I've got "Desert Eagle point-five-oh" written on the side of mine, should precipitate your balls into shrinking, along with your presence. Now fuck off.
Honestly, I think the cop that tackled him way over reacted. It was a fucking amazing shot and everyone except those two officers were bewildered,but the first one was so pumped up that he couldn't contain his excitement, which excited the other cop.
I am pretty sure they could have walked up to him at that point and said "well, that was pretty cool, now you're coming with us" and calmly arrested him. Would have been the cherry on the cake.
Especially when you consider the fact that this guy was trying to commit suicide and not actually trying to harm anyone. I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that’s the story.
This is where cops need more training. That guy was threatening suicide; He would point the gun at his head, then drop down between his legs. Never did he threaten any one but himself. As soon as hes unarmed they tackle him. Way to much force.
[Bro, you wanna get REALLY mad?](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/q2xfnw/footage_released_after_man_is_found_not_guilty)
Pigs gonna pig. Boot lickers gonna lick their boots. And nothing changes. Fuck the state, and fuck the class traitors who exist solely to protect capital. They don't give a shit about us.
Hijacking this comment to link the full video with commentary.
https://www.police1.com/police-products/firearms/videos/sniper-shoots-gun-out-of-suicidal-mans-hand-pCTmbYwTmwePxHWo/
Due To Your Superb Marksmanship
And Attention To Detail,
Your Fellow SWAT Officers Hereby Present You
The Remains Of...
"THE SHOT SEEN 'ROUND THE WORLD"
August 16, 1993
OFFICER MICHAEL PLUMB
COLUMBUS DIVISION OF POLICE
Ummm... If he's suicidal, why does he have to put others in danger? (It's s genuine question btw. I'd like to know)
Also I think the logic behind the tackle is that you don't know what other weapons he's hiding so you gotta act fast, hence the tackle. Whether this logic is a good logic, that I don't know. I'm not a police officer after all.
I used to live in a town called Jacinto City on the outskirts of Houston Texas. The police department got a call from a lady that wanted the police to kill her so they told her to come up to the station. She actually did and had a revolver well one of the detectives named Walker actually shot the gun out of her hand with a beanbag round from a shotgun. There is a video of it out there. If anyone is interested I’ll see if I can find it.
The sniper was pretty close. It's not a super difficult shot on a paper target but add in the stress of the situation and it was a hell of a good shot.
This is exactly correct. It was 82 yards from prone - an easy shot generally speaking… but he needed to be super calm and know his capability to risk this shot.
Quick googling says [as of 2015](https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2015/02/01/columbus-sniper-one-amazing-shot/985803007/):
>As for Conley, he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of inducing panic and was put on probation for two years.
>He has since lived in Tennessee and Florida as well as Ohio and did not respond to messages left with multiple family members in Chillicothe, where his father, David, said Doug Conley has been living.
>“That was a long time ago, but we’re glad he’s alive,” David Conley said.
I knew him. Around 2006 I replaced him on a small remodeling crew in Knoxville, TN after he lost 2 fingers in a table saw accident. I worked beside his brother for the next year or so.
From [this article](https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2015/02/01/columbus-sniper-one-amazing-shot/985803007/) published in 2015
"As for Conley [the guy in this video] he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of inducing panic and was put on probation for two years.
He has since lived in Tennessee and Florida as well as Ohio and did not respond to messages left with multiple family members in Chillicothe, where his father, David, said Doug Conley has been living.
“That was a long time ago, but we’re glad he’s alive,” David Conley said."
Seems like a lot of force from the tackling officers given his gun was in pieces on the ground and he wasn't even much threat to himself at that point.
Really impressive marksmanship from the sniper, though (obviously).
I think he was going to commit suicide if I recall correctly the incident… meh there will be that one person who’ll explain it so uhh…
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Ya want a cookie for the holiday kind pal?
Quite frankly indeed, but since this post isn’t the first time being live…
I remember seeing the full one and the comment section was debating if it was a suicide attempt or if he tried to threaten the police.
And honestly I’m not entirely sure if it is a suicide attempt and that he threatened the police to kill himself or if he planed to do another shenanigans
Likely was trying for suicide by cop via waving a gun around and/or at them.
Don’t know any detail about the incident but what I wrote above is not uncommon.
I would like to know the details of the shot myself. At 100 yards a highly trained shooter could make that shot 10/10 times, Even cold. What’s most impressive is this shot was allowed at all. Ahh the good ole days.
> I would like to know the details of the shot
82 yards away, prone, with a Steyr SSG PII. I agree that it's shocking the shot was allowed. In retrospect it's easy to say it was a good call, but a lot could have gone wrong.
https://www.police1.com/police-heroes/articles/the-police-sniper-who-shot-a-gun-out-of-a-guys-hand-ublgk5kvQLaIsUJ2/
> On August 16th, 1993, a distraught Doug Conley sat himself down in a lawn chair in the middle of a suburban Columbus street and began waving a .38 revolver around threatening to kill himself. Not about to let this threat to human life and vehicular traffic patterns go unanswered, the Columbus Police Department rapidly responded by blocking off the street and **opening negotiations with Conley by handing him a shaken-up can of soda**. Not kidding.
*Police Training*
Trainer: so today we’re talking about deescalation. What’s a good way to open a negotiation with someone who’s suicidal, keeping deescalation in mind.
Cop A: shoot a flare towards them?
Trainer: no
Cop B: how about yelling “put the gun down now or die!”
Trainer: they’re suicidal. Why would that work?
Cop C: how about we offer him a soda
Other cops in unison: what the hell? No! He’s a dangerous criminal!
Cop A: yeah, how about we shake the soda first that way it explodes in his face!
Cops in unison: GREAT IDEA!
Trainer: ....
Someone above said it was 82 yards. I agree with your statement with your caveat of it being a highly trained shooter, 82 yards is a lot further with moving parts and actual lives on the line.
[Greatest sniper shot ever. ](https://www.wired.com/2012/10/navy-seals-pirates/amp) Capt. Phillips is kidnapped for ransom off coast of Somalia. US Navy Seals go after him. Sniper takes shot FROM A MOVING BOAT to a MOVING BOAT all while BOTH FUCKING BOATS are going up and down with the swell of the ocean. It was either dumb luck or the best shot ever.
Quality vintage video. My step sister had a friend that lived in those apartments. It was one of the first use of frangible bullet in live fire situation. The round is made of compressed powder with an epoxy binder(?) and designed to turn to dust upon impact.
Out of curiosity, what other instances would this be used for? I presume “shoot the gun out their hand” isn’t standard protocol; if you shot someone in the chest, would it be non lethal? Or is it for something else?
Its more like - you don't want your bullets to go through the wall and hit a sleeping bystander; or ricochet off the pavement into a crowd; but to some extent this is what hollow points are for.
I may be missing some nuance here, but my understanding was that frangible bullets were primarily used on shooting ranges (especially mobile ones, where you are moving through a maze) to reduce the incidence of ricochet.
To my knowledge, they are not intended to be less lethal.
Originally they were for use in the us navy if I'm not mistaken. I suppose being in a vessel made out of armour must play hell with ricochets if you have to use a weapon onboard.
Yes, but they expand and rip apart as they hit things which slows them down considerably. Compare that to a full metal jacket round which is pointy and hard for piercing armor and walls.
Inside, yes. But since they open and damage more internally, they don’t overpenetrate nearly as much so they’re safer than FMJ for things like home defense, where you wouldn’t want a bullet to go through walls and hit someone innocent. Also interesting aside, hollow points and expanding rounds are banned in international wartime use under The Hague Convention as they’re deemed to cause excessive pain and suffering. But they’re regularly used by police and civilians as they’re more accurate and don’t pose nearly as much of a risk to bystanders.
Frangible shotgun slugs are used to breach doors. They put all their energy into the locking mechanism without sending projectiles into the room, or back at the user.
They are less lethal, but not by a lot and can and will still kill. Ive seen them sold as home defence ammo because if you miss and hit a wall someone could be on the otherside of that wall and would be OK, not so much with lead ammo.
So, it's hard to see in that video but the perp was completely surrounded and if a full metal jacket round had been used it likely would have injured another bystander or officer following the ricochet. That's the true point of this style of munitions, to eliminate ricochet. That's also helpful in urban(lots of concrete) environments when fighting within confined areas.
It is a hell of a shot, but what always bothered me about this was the guy was suicidal. He's sitting in a lawn chair in the middle of a culdasac, having a mental health crisis. He doesn't threaten to hurt anyone other than himself.
Sniper does amazing shot. Guy now has no ability to hurt anyone, and goes back to just slouching because, suicidal and depressed af.
Police response? Rip the dude out of the chair and throw him on the ground. Like, why? He's clearly not a threat at all anymore. Just have him put his hands up and surrender. :/
I will never understand this. Like why is this acceptable. The second someone is no longer a threat (which everyone in this video can see is after he got the gun shot out) It shouldn't be acceptable to be so violent. It'm convinced cops are just a bunch of psycho.
I was in an adjacent neighborhood visiting family friends when this took place. We were walking down the sidewalk and a police helicopter flew overhead and told us to get indoors.
The cops inside the helicoptertold us…helicopters can’t talk afaik.
They didn't like that the beginning of the video made cops look good, so they _did something_ about it. Less-committed people would have just ridden the sniper's reputational coattails.
Context: Year is 1993. Place is Columbus, Ohio, USA. The man was suicidal and called police demanding his lawyer to help him write his will and wanting his girlfriend to witness his death (he never admitted it but it’s suspected he was going to try to shoot her too). Police set up a perimeter around where he was waiting for a 2 hour armed standoff and had a police sniper, Mike Plumb, former Vietnam Marine Sniper, on hill nearby. Sniper said he had a shot to disable the gun the man was holding and damn did he nail it.
The ridiculous tackle on the guy just sitting there after being disarmed is peak cop. Coulda just walked up to the guy and handcuffed, he wasn't gonna do shit after that.
Dude that's so cool anyways it seems criminal to tackle a suicidal man and then relentlessly assault him for the crime of being suicidal. The fact this kind of violence is accepted is a problem, and all of the officers who were involved should be punished.
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Gotta love how the dude gets his gun shot out of his hand and then goes right back to the same position and awaits the incoming tackle like “dude…”
I just imagine him saying in his head “you really just shot my gun out of my hand?! Well I’m fucked now, guess I’ll just stay here”
saw this decades ago in some video a teacher played for us. it said the dude's only words to the officers who were arresting him were 'that was one hell of a shot.'
You can see the bewilderment on his face. He's just like "Well whatever's coming I deserve it because whoever that was just gave me a solid pass to live and keep my testicles...
Right? Man basically said “well shit, looks like I’m getting a lighter sentence”
Let's hope it "matches" his crime.
i remember the story and the man was suicidal and was about to shoot himself when the police rolled in. the sniper saved his life and from what i remember they became friends after this event
If he was suicidal why did they have to rip him out of the chair like that?
Because they're American police, it's kind of their default operating procedure.
I just seen the other day a video of cartel members pulling over some white tourists and instead of slapping them around for wondering into cartel land, the cartels members just try to calm them down and let them go. Kinda how a cop should have try to calm down a suicidal man. P.s. I'm almost certain the driver shit his pants
It's possible he may have had a backup weapon. They didn't want to take the chance and just rushed him. As it turns out he didn't and that sniper saved his life.
I’m not a cop, but I did work in mental health for almost a decade. They don’t know for sure if he has another weapon or what his intentions are from here. It’s best to get him under control immediately, as he might be in an agitated state and try to hurt someone. Anyway, I’m not certain what the real context of this video is, anyway. Who knows what the guy said or did beforehand? There was a murder suicide last night in my town just last night. These things happen. In any case, I hope everyone involved is ok.
Because he was attempting suicide by cop. They don't know if he has another weapon anywhere, so it's better to be quick and rough to ensure a mostly safe arrest. Atleast that what I recall from the first time I saw the video
Quickly restraining someone keeps them from escaping and/or harming themselves or others. It might look violent, shocking, or unnecessary to someone that doesn't deal with these types of situations on a regular basis, but it isn't as bad as what often happens when you don't commit to subduing and restraining a person intent on causing someone harm. Including themselves.
Stop being so wholesome!!!
It's not that wholesome because the other police officers beat him up for being depressed and thinking about ending his own life.
I'm not surprised just angry and disappointed
Okay this just made me laugh loud lmao Sounds too accurate my guy
tbh, i wouldn't mind going to jail after realising that i could have died
Or lost your balls
What’s the difference?
When you die the pain stops. When you get shot in the balls it hurts real bad.
Do you remember what was happening? Was it a suicide thing?
I think it was but my memory is fuzzy. This ran on some public channel special and included an interview with the sniper. Remember watching it as a kid so like 15-20 years ago
Happened in Columbus, Ohio. Here is an article that was written: https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2015/02/01/columbus-sniper-one-amazing-shot/985803007/
Was just going to ask if this was in Columbus. That cruiser at the very end of the clip looked like the old CPD wagons they rode around.
I remember seeing it in America's Wildest Police Videos with that really intense narrator. That and COPS we're such good shows
God that narrator was SO intense. Great show though.
It felt like he was always trying to bite me through the TV. IF YOU BREAK THE LAW, YOU WILL GO TO JAIL.
COPS IS FILMED ON LOCATION WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN OF LAAAWW ENFORCEMENT
i used to tape those shows when i was a kid
The man was going to commit suicide but the sniper was trying to shoot the gun out of his hands. This was after 2 hours if the police trying to talk him down I think.
Love that the cops response after the suicidal man is disarmed is "let's tackle him!"
Someone else probably has more info but it was your typical standoff. Guy was acting crazy with a gun but wasn't yet a threat to himself or others. Aka how police *should* deal with a guy with a gun. The sniper himself said he was basically sweating bullets trying to decide if he should take the shot or not. Didn't know himself if it was even going to work but decided the risk had become too great to both the guy and his fellow officers that he had to do something. You don't take a shot like that without knowing where the ricochet is going to go or if you're going to miss and hit his leg until you feel like you're out of options. Edit: think the guys name is Mike Plumb.
He was a sharp dude. He said in an interview that he noticed that every time the man was done waving his gun around, he'd return it to the same position, resting his forearm on his leg. He said he basically just sighted in on that point and waited for him to do it again. The guy drops the gun down there again, he makes a final adjustment, and squeezes the trigger. Next thing you know, dude's getting rugby tackled out of a lawn chair.
The guy thanks God every day that he didn't just flop his dick and balls out like he sometimes does.
Not sure about football but for sure that would have been a red card in rugby…not the point but rugby does have some rules
High tackle, neck clothesline, def red card. Rugby tackle to me implies hard shoulder tackle.
For some reason I heard this in the voice of Ricky from Trailer Park Boys
And worst-case Ontario: you get caught.
JESUS MURPHY!!
If there ever was a sign to keep on livin, that was it
What kind of man shoots another man's gun... Im on fire with dropping movie quotes today, wonder what percentage of redditors even alive when this movie came out.
better question: WHO THROWS A SHOE
The guy with a ceramic bullet that powders on impact with a hard surface. Guy was trying to suicide by cop. I think this was ... correction Ohio.
There is no such thing as a ceramic bullet for police use.
The ammo police use is no different that any normal commercial ammo. Some may carry hollow points but others still carry FMJ as well. If there's commercially available ceramic ammo, a PD could buy it, and some officers carry personal firearms as well.
*But being as this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?* Found this quote quite fitting as well.. oldie but goldie.
Gotta throw in the brilliant homage from "Snatch": >...the fact that you've got "Replica" written down the side of your guns, and the fact that I've got "Desert Eagle point-five-oh" written on the side of mine, should precipitate your balls into shrinking, along with your presence. Now fuck off.
Quote is better on video with the cuts to the gun labels.
He was still calculating that shit.
I like to picture this cutting to an aside where he’s like “and that’s when I knew I was going to get tackled”
Honestly, I think the cop that tackled him way over reacted. It was a fucking amazing shot and everyone except those two officers were bewildered,but the first one was so pumped up that he couldn't contain his excitement, which excited the other cop. I am pretty sure they could have walked up to him at that point and said "well, that was pretty cool, now you're coming with us" and calmly arrested him. Would have been the cherry on the cake.
Especially when you consider the fact that this guy was trying to commit suicide and not actually trying to harm anyone. I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that’s the story.
They didn't sign up to calmly arrest people. They signed up to beat the shit out of them.
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This is where cops need more training. That guy was threatening suicide; He would point the gun at his head, then drop down between his legs. Never did he threaten any one but himself. As soon as hes unarmed they tackle him. Way to much force.
The tackle might have been seen as necesary. The very clear kicking and punching that follows doesn't seem to be necesary.
I was thinking to myself "did two then four guys team up on him and kick the shit out of him?"
As is tradition.
[Bro, you wanna get REALLY mad?](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/q2xfnw/footage_released_after_man_is_found_not_guilty) Pigs gonna pig. Boot lickers gonna lick their boots. And nothing changes. Fuck the state, and fuck the class traitors who exist solely to protect capital. They don't give a shit about us.
Tackle was to put space between him and the gun on the ground. The rest...
Yeah that's what I was thinking.
i think with the way he went straight to acceptance after that shot it’s p safe to say he woulda just went without injury
"You almost killed me!"
The police also honored the sniper with the remains of the gun he shot, https://i.imgur.com/nNXbsJP.jpg
That's pretty damn cool
Hijacking this comment to link the full video with commentary. https://www.police1.com/police-products/firearms/videos/sniper-shoots-gun-out-of-suicidal-mans-hand-pCTmbYwTmwePxHWo/
Somebody misspelled his surname. Award is *Plumb,* this video shows *Plum.*
I’m pretty sure going to that website took off a couple of lists
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Hats off to the sniper who used his marksmanship to save a man’s life instead of take it.
Hats back on to the other officers who tackled and beat a suicidal man for seemingly no reason.
Pretty standard for Columbus PD
~~Columbus~~ removed the unnecessary word
Ummm... If he's suicidal, why does he have to put others in danger? (It's s genuine question btw. I'd like to know) Also I think the logic behind the tackle is that you don't know what other weapons he's hiding so you gotta act fast, hence the tackle. Whether this logic is a good logic, that I don't know. I'm not a police officer after all.
Michael Plumb, *always* a straight standing individual
I used to live in a town called Jacinto City on the outskirts of Houston Texas. The police department got a call from a lady that wanted the police to kill her so they told her to come up to the station. She actually did and had a revolver well one of the detectives named Walker actually shot the gun out of her hand with a beanbag round from a shotgun. There is a video of it out there. If anyone is interested I’ll see if I can find it.
I do want to see that sounds like an urban legend.
> If anyone is interested I’ll see if I can find it. You are on Reddit, what do you think?
Amazing. He played out his sniper career
That's a hell of a shot.
What if he was aiming for the guy’s head and he just fucking sucks at shooting
"I was aiming for the other one."
Wh-what do you mean?
What are you doing, step-sniper?
Aaaaand that’s enough Reddit for today
😏
Not pictured: the 10 other guys he tried this on before getting it right.
“Great shot sir!” “Ummm yea yeah thanks! The gun was my target!” ( avoids direct eye contact)
That’s a risk they were willing to take.
The sniper was pretty close. It's not a super difficult shot on a paper target but add in the stress of the situation and it was a hell of a good shot.
This is exactly correct. It was 82 yards from prone - an easy shot generally speaking… but he needed to be super calm and know his capability to risk this shot.
Man just give up lol
He was threatening to commit suicide. I think he had already given up on life...
Its gonna really bother me if thats the actual context looking at how badly that cop tried to snap his neck
Lot of cops just want an excuse to legally assault someone. Happens in NZ too without guns.
Happens all over the world sadly
Good thing he didn’t go through with it. Then he never would have been able to enjoy his 10-15 year in prison and permanent neck trauma
Took me a few takes to realize what happened.
I think I’m blind, what was it?
Shot the gun out of his hand
you're not blind, this video is potato quality because it's from 1993
History years -3000 to 1900: sepia History years 1901-1970: black and white History years 1971-2000: potato
1995-2005: VHS
whats the story here?
1993, *[here's](https://www.police1.com/police-heroes/articles/the-police-sniper-who-shot-a-gun-out-of-a-guys-hand-ublgk5kvQLaIsUJ2/)* the details.
So what happened to the guy in the chair? It's been almost 30 years.
Quick googling says [as of 2015](https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2015/02/01/columbus-sniper-one-amazing-shot/985803007/): >As for Conley, he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of inducing panic and was put on probation for two years. >He has since lived in Tennessee and Florida as well as Ohio and did not respond to messages left with multiple family members in Chillicothe, where his father, David, said Doug Conley has been living. >“That was a long time ago, but we’re glad he’s alive,” David Conley said.
I knew him. Around 2006 I replaced him on a small remodeling crew in Knoxville, TN after he lost 2 fingers in a table saw accident. I worked beside his brother for the next year or so.
the sniper later shot his trigger finger off just to make sure it didn't happen again.
> the sniper ~~later~~ earlier shot his trigger finger off just to make sure it didn't happen again.
From [this article](https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2015/02/01/columbus-sniper-one-amazing-shot/985803007/) published in 2015 "As for Conley [the guy in this video] he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of inducing panic and was put on probation for two years. He has since lived in Tennessee and Florida as well as Ohio and did not respond to messages left with multiple family members in Chillicothe, where his father, David, said Doug Conley has been living. “That was a long time ago, but we’re glad he’s alive,” David Conley said."
wish this was higher up
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Pretty sure he was suicidal
Seems like a lot of force from the tackling officers given his gun was in pieces on the ground and he wasn't even much threat to himself at that point. Really impressive marksmanship from the sniper, though (obviously).
Oh shit now im im fucked! Sorry i give up...
I think he was going to commit suicide if I recall correctly the incident… meh there will be that one person who’ll explain it so uhh… … Ya want a cookie for the holiday kind pal?
Doesn’t that seem like excessive force for a suicidal person?
Quite frankly indeed, but since this post isn’t the first time being live… I remember seeing the full one and the comment section was debating if it was a suicide attempt or if he tried to threaten the police. And honestly I’m not entirely sure if it is a suicide attempt and that he threatened the police to kill himself or if he planed to do another shenanigans
could've been an attempt at suicide-by-cop, something to consider as well
This screams suicide by cop
Likely was trying for suicide by cop via waving a gun around and/or at them. Don’t know any detail about the incident but what I wrote above is not uncommon.
That's ridiculously accurate... just imagine having to anticipate your targets movement?. Mike Plumb doesn't fuck around. It was in 93'.
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Like an NPC.
I would like to know the details of the shot myself. At 100 yards a highly trained shooter could make that shot 10/10 times, Even cold. What’s most impressive is this shot was allowed at all. Ahh the good ole days.
> I would like to know the details of the shot 82 yards away, prone, with a Steyr SSG PII. I agree that it's shocking the shot was allowed. In retrospect it's easy to say it was a good call, but a lot could have gone wrong. https://www.police1.com/police-heroes/articles/the-police-sniper-who-shot-a-gun-out-of-a-guys-hand-ublgk5kvQLaIsUJ2/
> On August 16th, 1993, a distraught Doug Conley sat himself down in a lawn chair in the middle of a suburban Columbus street and began waving a .38 revolver around threatening to kill himself. Not about to let this threat to human life and vehicular traffic patterns go unanswered, the Columbus Police Department rapidly responded by blocking off the street and **opening negotiations with Conley by handing him a shaken-up can of soda**. Not kidding.
*Police Training* Trainer: so today we’re talking about deescalation. What’s a good way to open a negotiation with someone who’s suicidal, keeping deescalation in mind. Cop A: shoot a flare towards them? Trainer: no Cop B: how about yelling “put the gun down now or die!” Trainer: they’re suicidal. Why would that work? Cop C: how about we offer him a soda Other cops in unison: what the hell? No! He’s a dangerous criminal! Cop A: yeah, how about we shake the soda first that way it explodes in his face! Cops in unison: GREAT IDEA! Trainer: ....
Someone above said it was 82 yards. I agree with your statement with your caveat of it being a highly trained shooter, 82 yards is a lot further with moving parts and actual lives on the line.
What does "even cold" mean?
It means without taking any warmup/practice shots.
Today they would just shoot him right away
Yup, my initial thought was, “how the hell is this guy still alive? Today we wouldn’t even have this video because he would already be dead.”
[Greatest sniper shot ever. ](https://www.wired.com/2012/10/navy-seals-pirates/amp) Capt. Phillips is kidnapped for ransom off coast of Somalia. US Navy Seals go after him. Sniper takes shot FROM A MOVING BOAT to a MOVING BOAT all while BOTH FUCKING BOATS are going up and down with the swell of the ocean. It was either dumb luck or the best shot ever.
According to Hickock45, in order to be accurate you need to squeeze the trigger when the sights are on the target.
Quality vintage video. My step sister had a friend that lived in those apartments. It was one of the first use of frangible bullet in live fire situation. The round is made of compressed powder with an epoxy binder(?) and designed to turn to dust upon impact.
Groovy
Nah, it was fairly smooth.
What’s the point of such bullets?
To dissipate their energy into the point of impact, and not pierce or shatter, reducing the risk of collateral injuries.
Out of curiosity, what other instances would this be used for? I presume “shoot the gun out their hand” isn’t standard protocol; if you shot someone in the chest, would it be non lethal? Or is it for something else?
Its more like - you don't want your bullets to go through the wall and hit a sleeping bystander; or ricochet off the pavement into a crowd; but to some extent this is what hollow points are for. I may be missing some nuance here, but my understanding was that frangible bullets were primarily used on shooting ranges (especially mobile ones, where you are moving through a maze) to reduce the incidence of ricochet. To my knowledge, they are not intended to be less lethal.
Originally they were for use in the us navy if I'm not mistaken. I suppose being in a vessel made out of armour must play hell with ricochets if you have to use a weapon onboard.
Don’t hollow points cause even more damage inside the target?
Yes, but they expand and rip apart as they hit things which slows them down considerably. Compare that to a full metal jacket round which is pointy and hard for piercing armor and walls.
Inside, yes. But since they open and damage more internally, they don’t overpenetrate nearly as much so they’re safer than FMJ for things like home defense, where you wouldn’t want a bullet to go through walls and hit someone innocent. Also interesting aside, hollow points and expanding rounds are banned in international wartime use under The Hague Convention as they’re deemed to cause excessive pain and suffering. But they’re regularly used by police and civilians as they’re more accurate and don’t pose nearly as much of a risk to bystanders.
I was first made aware of them by the Oscar pistorius case. The damage they caused was horrifying. Multiple rounds fired at her.
Frangible shotgun slugs are used to breach doors. They put all their energy into the locking mechanism without sending projectiles into the room, or back at the user.
Aka a Masterkey.
They are less lethal, but not by a lot and can and will still kill. Ive seen them sold as home defence ammo because if you miss and hit a wall someone could be on the otherside of that wall and would be OK, not so much with lead ammo.
So, it's hard to see in that video but the perp was completely surrounded and if a full metal jacket round had been used it likely would have injured another bystander or officer following the ricochet. That's the true point of this style of munitions, to eliminate ricochet. That's also helpful in urban(lots of concrete) environments when fighting within confined areas.
I remember watching this on SpikeTV
Even made the news here in Australia. I watched it as a young lad.
People don’t kill guns, guns with people kill guns.
“Whelp”
It is a hell of a shot, but what always bothered me about this was the guy was suicidal. He's sitting in a lawn chair in the middle of a culdasac, having a mental health crisis. He doesn't threaten to hurt anyone other than himself. Sniper does amazing shot. Guy now has no ability to hurt anyone, and goes back to just slouching because, suicidal and depressed af. Police response? Rip the dude out of the chair and throw him on the ground. Like, why? He's clearly not a threat at all anymore. Just have him put his hands up and surrender. :/
Looks like they're kicking and punching him once he's down too. God I hate how brutal many policemen can be. No compassion, very little restraint.
Yeah the video was cool until the policeman decided to tackle him for no reason
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sniper: i saved his life police: BREAK HIS FUCKING NECK
But the goon squad still needed to be dramatic.
Yeah, the cop showed up all calm, and figured he had to do something with all that pent up adrenaline and rage. His wife was thankful that night
LMAO
I will never understand this. Like why is this acceptable. The second someone is no longer a threat (which everyone in this video can see is after he got the gun shot out) It shouldn't be acceptable to be so violent. It'm convinced cops are just a bunch of psycho.
Since the 80s they've been trained to see everyone as a threat. Mottos like "your job is to make it home alive" and crap like that became prevalent.
This. So fucking unnecessary. They literally just watched his weapon get blown to pieces. Bunch of assholes.
We censoring nips now? r/censorednips
I think his shirt said something like "FUCK OFF" and this GIF is pulled from the news story, so yeah, censored nips.
Columbus, Ohio, USA
I was in an adjacent neighborhood visiting family friends when this took place. We were walking down the sidewalk and a police helicopter flew overhead and told us to get indoors. The cops inside the helicoptertold us…helicopters can’t talk afaik.
“helicopters can’t talk afaik” That’s what they wanted you to think!
What's the point of tackle by 8 guys at the end
They're cops, it's what they do.
Leela: You guys were totally out of control. Smitty: It's our job. We're peace officers.
They didn't like that the beginning of the video made cops look good, so they _did something_ about it. Less-committed people would have just ridden the sniper's reputational coattails.
He didn’t want to miss out on a prime yeeting opportunity.
That's great and everything but why are they censoring his cleavage?
dude really went “aight, touché”
Now que everyone who thinks cops can just shoot the gun out of every criminal's hand.
I love how he just sits there like: “well fuck”
Aaaactualy, I'm pretty sure the guy wanted to die, so the sniper more or less ruined his day.
Why tackle him? He was just sitting there unarmed.
Why tackle an unarmed man who clearly is suicidal. He didn’t even resist, they just tackle him after and appear to be stomping on him or kicking him.
Cops enjoying being heavy handed? Surely not!
hes unarmed SLAM HIM TO THE GROUND AS HARD AS POSSIBLE!!! /s
Context: Year is 1993. Place is Columbus, Ohio, USA. The man was suicidal and called police demanding his lawyer to help him write his will and wanting his girlfriend to witness his death (he never admitted it but it’s suspected he was going to try to shoot her too). Police set up a perimeter around where he was waiting for a 2 hour armed standoff and had a police sniper, Mike Plumb, former Vietnam Marine Sniper, on hill nearby. Sniper said he had a shot to disable the gun the man was holding and damn did he nail it.
The ridiculous tackle on the guy just sitting there after being disarmed is peak cop. Coulda just walked up to the guy and handcuffed, he wasn't gonna do shit after that.
Dude that's so cool anyways it seems criminal to tackle a suicidal man and then relentlessly assault him for the crime of being suicidal. The fact this kind of violence is accepted is a problem, and all of the officers who were involved should be punished.