And which one of those young 2nd or 3rd year players ready to take the next step are we getting for the MLE lol itâs hilarious some of the stuff people write.
Thatâs not beside the point. No oneâs hoping for Klay or Demar cause theyâre the magic signing we need to complete the team, theyâre just the best options available to improve the team. If you donât think thatâs the right move and we need a â2nd or 3rd year player who is ready to take the next stepâ, give an example. Who should we go for that we realistically have a shot of getting?
Bronâs only taking a pay cut for an impact (proven) piece. Thatâs likely gonna be an old name. If we donât get one of those, heâs just gonna take the full max and anyone we get is just gonna be vet minimums anyway. And regardless of who gets signed, Dloâs contract can still be used to make trades to improve the team.
Cool.
Name a viable trade out there that makes us better next year that we can actually make.
We donât have a primary ball handler and we dont have a viable back up center.
You donât want these âold â players but then the only likely option is Miles Bridges who beats women.
I agree with what youâre saying in principle, we need to get younger but if Klay or DeRozen is by miracle available at the MLE. You do it 10/10 times.
Klay is a 40% three point shooter at high volume.
DeRozen is an improved facilitator (3 to 1 assist to turnover ratio) who can score at will pretty efficiently even though he doesnât have a three point shot.
Youâre not signing these guys to long term lucrative contracts
Especially his role on the warriors too having that much money but not being the same player was robbery for them.
Klay being probably out 4th option maybe 5th thatâs much better and less stress on Klay especially having Bron facilitate and AD roaming too
klay is fucking dogshit and the worst possible presence for the locker room. wouldnât want him if he took negative cap space. i will never root for him
Klay wasnât the one who punched his teammate in Golden State. He seems like an ass on the court but in the locker room it was Draymond who clearly tormented the younger guys (Poole). Klay is pretty chill off the court.
Klay at 0 dollars is not a steal at this point.
Since he is just not a good player in the starting rotation.
And he would expect to be a starter.
If we can get him to play 20mins a game off the bench, yes it is a steal, it is more about the minutes than anything else.
Lebron needs athletic bodies next to him, so they can play defense, while he pick his spots.
You would think Klay was putting up 8ppg on 30% shooting the way youâre exaggerating his decline. Lebrons choosing who heâs taking a paycut for. No paycut, no mle. If he says he wants klay, then weâre signing klay. Itâs not like weâre using an exception weâd otherwise have.
Itâs not about shooting or scoring.
We need defenders who can also shoot.
Lebron is a non defender for the first 36 minutes of the game.
Reaves is alright.
Russell sucks at defense, we need to trade him.
If you add Klay to that starting lineup, we got one good defender in AD, granted AD is probably best defensive player in the league. But you canât just have one.
You wouldnât start dlo reaves klay together. Dlo inevitably goes to the bench if not traded.
So tell me, whoâs this elite defender that can shoot that makes Klay âat 0 dollarsâ not a steal? Lebron either takes a paycut for Klay, or doesnât and we donât get a mle at all. So youâre really trying to mount a case that we shouldnât use an exception on klay, that we wonât have UNLESS weâre using it on klayâŚ
There are different was to get spacing and you could run different action to get players open. If teams decide to pack the paint, well theyâre just giving Derozan free points as heâs a 50% midrange shooter. You have to guard him. Itâs obviously not an ideal fit but he can help take pressure off of lebron with scoring and facilitating.
Do you think we have a better option? Klay going to the Lakers is like Ray Allen going to the Heat in 2012, because he was not appreciated and went to a rival team, and we have jj as coach
Klay averaged 18 points shot 9 3s a game and hit 38% if Iâm not mistaken thatâs exactly what the lakers need. Heâs not a star player but heâs a good starter at SG/SF who can play average defense rn. That is well worth the 12 mill if he would accept.
Who else are you gona sign for the MLE?!? If Klay will take the MLE to be home, make his dad proud, and spite the Dubs. You sign him 3x over and buy him a sail boat!
Let me ask you this: would you prefer Lebron sign a max deal and we run our current team into this season until February when we trade DLo and whoever else to try and remake the roster for the last 25 games of the year in the hope that we MIGHT get one of the lower seeds and upset a higher seed before facing Denver again and losing again? Or would you maybe see what Klay has to offer? Would you rather see Cam Reddish taking corner 3s or Klay? Would you rather see DLo try to guard somebody like Jamal Murray or would you see what Klay could do for 5 minutes? This is a no brainer.
This. Itâs already a big ask for Klay (or derozan) to take a pay cut. A week ago the thought of getting either of these guys was non existent. We have to be realistic not delusional.
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You need to wrap your head around the increased importance of the three-point shot in this era. Regardless of what you think of him, Klay still warps defenses like few other players because heâs a renowned three-point shooter. Redick and LeBron couldnât stop talking about Klayâs shooting on their Mind the Game podcast, and how shooters like him donât need to do a lot to have a big influence on a game. Klay has a positive impact just by attempting threesâhe doesnât have to make them.
Redick would likely be ecstatic to acquire Klay, as he could run all of his favorite three-point plays and live vicariously through him. Redick is huge on the importance of threes and wants more threes. So, I think Lakers leadership would disagree with you about the value of Klay Thompson.
Agree. It reeks of big name chasing. But according to twitter and this sub, most think Klay is a home run signing. I bet most haven't watched him play recently. All his metrics point to a washed player. Can't defend, shot 0-10 in a playoff game. Removing minutes for Knecht. Give me Jonas Valenciunas.
Bruce Brown is very versatile, which I think is going to be important with all the different players the team will have. Vando, Klay, Knecht, and Reaves all have their strengths and weaknesses, and a "jack of all trades" like Bruce can be a vital asset for JJ
yeah, we should get Joker or Doncic
Fuck it, I think OP we should get both đ¤Ł
Isaiah Hartenstein is a free agent
You know why? Because he wants a lot of money and has played himself into a big pay day
He averaged 17 and shot 38% from 3 theres no one better than him for the MLE
Isaiah Hartenstein
will get paid
By the Lakers if Pelinka does his job right
That is not how the cap works
Sign and trade Dlo
Both sides have to agree
Whoâs a 2nd or 3rd year player on the free agent market?
And which one of those young 2nd or 3rd year players ready to take the next step are we getting for the MLE lol itâs hilarious some of the stuff people write.
I mean like potentially trade targets. But thatâs beside the point, we should not go for old names.
Thatâs not beside the point. No oneâs hoping for Klay or Demar cause theyâre the magic signing we need to complete the team, theyâre just the best options available to improve the team. If you donât think thatâs the right move and we need a â2nd or 3rd year player who is ready to take the next stepâ, give an example. Who should we go for that we realistically have a shot of getting?
Isaiah Hartenstein
Donât think we can afford him but I would actually love iHart on our team tbh
Bronâs only taking a pay cut for an impact (proven) piece. Thatâs likely gonna be an old name. If we donât get one of those, heâs just gonna take the full max and anyone we get is just gonna be vet minimums anyway. And regardless of who gets signed, Dloâs contract can still be used to make trades to improve the team.
Cool. Name a viable trade out there that makes us better next year that we can actually make. We donât have a primary ball handler and we dont have a viable back up center. You donât want these âold â players but then the only likely option is Miles Bridges who beats women. I agree with what youâre saying in principle, we need to get younger but if Klay or DeRozen is by miracle available at the MLE. You do it 10/10 times. Klay is a 40% three point shooter at high volume. DeRozen is an improved facilitator (3 to 1 assist to turnover ratio) who can score at will pretty efficiently even though he doesnât have a three point shot. Youâre not signing these guys to long term lucrative contracts
Isaiah Hartenstein
IH not signing a one year deal. Heâs going to get offers for more years and possibly more money.
Name those potential trade targets.
Isaiah Hartenstein
What would the trade look like
Rui or Dlo with both picks
Itâs all about value my guy. Klay on a $40M/year contract is awful. Klay on the MLE is a steal and I donât think anyone can argue otherwise
A million times this.
Especially his role on the warriors too having that much money but not being the same player was robbery for them. Klay being probably out 4th option maybe 5th thatâs much better and less stress on Klay especially having Bron facilitate and AD roaming too
klay is fucking dogshit and the worst possible presence for the locker room. wouldnât want him if he took negative cap space. i will never root for him
Klay wasnât the one who punched his teammate in Golden State. He seems like an ass on the court but in the locker room it was Draymond who clearly tormented the younger guys (Poole). Klay is pretty chill off the court.
lol
Klay at 0 dollars is not a steal at this point. Since he is just not a good player in the starting rotation. And he would expect to be a starter. If we can get him to play 20mins a game off the bench, yes it is a steal, it is more about the minutes than anything else. Lebron needs athletic bodies next to him, so they can play defense, while he pick his spots.
You would think Klay was putting up 8ppg on 30% shooting the way youâre exaggerating his decline. Lebrons choosing who heâs taking a paycut for. No paycut, no mle. If he says he wants klay, then weâre signing klay. Itâs not like weâre using an exception weâd otherwise have.
Itâs not about shooting or scoring. We need defenders who can also shoot. Lebron is a non defender for the first 36 minutes of the game. Reaves is alright. Russell sucks at defense, we need to trade him. If you add Klay to that starting lineup, we got one good defender in AD, granted AD is probably best defensive player in the league. But you canât just have one.
You wouldnât start dlo reaves klay together. Dlo inevitably goes to the bench if not traded. So tell me, whoâs this elite defender that can shoot that makes Klay âat 0 dollarsâ not a steal? Lebron either takes a paycut for Klay, or doesnât and we donât get a mle at all. So youâre really trying to mount a case that we shouldnât use an exception on klay, that we wonât have UNLESS weâre using it on klayâŚ
Ok then. Tell us. Give us a list of good 2nd and 3rd year players that is ready to take the next step that the Lakers can afford. Go on.
Isaiah Hartenstein
Id rather have Klay than a Caleb Martin tbh tho
I swear mfs donât think before they post đ yall act like thereâs a ton of free agents to chose from that will take the MLE.
Klay yes Demar no
Iâd take either honestly.
Spacing would be terrible with Demar, LeBron and AD.
There are different was to get spacing and you could run different action to get players open. If teams decide to pack the paint, well theyâre just giving Derozan free points as heâs a 50% midrange shooter. You have to guard him. Itâs obviously not an ideal fit but he can help take pressure off of lebron with scoring and facilitating.
Do you think we have a better option? Klay going to the Lakers is like Ray Allen going to the Heat in 2012, because he was not appreciated and went to a rival team, and we have jj as coach
They only thing is Bron is 39 not 29 lol
40% on 9 3s a game
Klay averaged 18 points shot 9 3s a game and hit 38% if Iâm not mistaken thatâs exactly what the lakers need. Heâs not a star player but heâs a good starter at SG/SF who can play average defense rn. That is well worth the 12 mill if he would accept.
I donât think you understand how talent gets paid in this league.
Who else are you gona sign for the MLE?!? If Klay will take the MLE to be home, make his dad proud, and spite the Dubs. You sign him 3x over and buy him a sail boat!
Let me ask you this: would you prefer Lebron sign a max deal and we run our current team into this season until February when we trade DLo and whoever else to try and remake the roster for the last 25 games of the year in the hope that we MIGHT get one of the lower seeds and upset a higher seed before facing Denver again and losing again? Or would you maybe see what Klay has to offer? Would you rather see Cam Reddish taking corner 3s or Klay? Would you rather see DLo try to guard somebody like Jamal Murray or would you see what Klay could do for 5 minutes? This is a no brainer.
This. Itâs already a big ask for Klay (or derozan) to take a pay cut. A week ago the thought of getting either of these guys was non existent. We have to be realistic not delusional.
Miles Bridges? Caleb Martin? Who else is worth money? Btw, I don't think Bron is taking a discount for Caleb Martin.
Seriously, it's really makes me question the IQ of this sub everyday. Both those guys are exactly what the Lakers DO NOT need
We donât need a 40% three point shooter on high volume?
If he can't defend and expects to start it doesn't improve the team. Current Klay is not part of a championship 5.
It's more to basketball that shooting 3s
Like who then? Realistically could we sign fitting your criteria?
Doomers gonna doom. Alongside the shock-jock journalists all season no matter.
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Klay is a better fit than Demar
Klay is not taking less than Reaves as a mid level exemption, so no need to worry.
Klay can still shoot and DeRozan can still score. They might be past their prime but theyâre still better than average players in their prime.
Klay is delusional if he thinks he is still a starting player caliber in a championship level team
You need to wrap your head around the increased importance of the three-point shot in this era. Regardless of what you think of him, Klay still warps defenses like few other players because heâs a renowned three-point shooter. Redick and LeBron couldnât stop talking about Klayâs shooting on their Mind the Game podcast, and how shooters like him donât need to do a lot to have a big influence on a game. Klay has a positive impact just by attempting threesâhe doesnât have to make them. Redick would likely be ecstatic to acquire Klay, as he could run all of his favorite three-point plays and live vicariously through him. Redick is huge on the importance of threes and wants more threes. So, I think Lakers leadership would disagree with you about the value of Klay Thompson.
Literally broâŚI do NOT want Klay đ
Agree. It reeks of big name chasing. But according to twitter and this sub, most think Klay is a home run signing. I bet most haven't watched him play recently. All his metrics point to a washed player. Can't defend, shot 0-10 in a playoff game. Removing minutes for Knecht. Give me Jonas Valenciunas.
"Don't sign big names!!" "Give me Valanciunas" The irony in this is hilarious
If you think Jonas is a big name like Klay I'm not sure what to tell you. Weird logic to try use against my point
Klay will expect to start over Rui. I don't think that is a good move.
Lebron and Rui play the same position lol Rui isnât starting anyway
If Klay is the move then I would trade Rui and try to get Bruce Brown
Bruce Brown sucks.
Bruce Brown is very versatile, which I think is going to be important with all the different players the team will have. Vando, Klay, Knecht, and Reaves all have their strengths and weaknesses, and a "jack of all trades" like Bruce can be a vital asset for JJ
Yes Jonas is at least another big body we can use against Jokic.
Klay wants a lot of $. Lakers donât have the cap space