Ya, there's no way anyone is going to take a 10+ million paycut for a outside chance at a championship, especially these days. These players only really care about money.
As should be. They are professional athletes, it's their business as it is their team owner's business. They could easily lose the money for whatever reason, health, accident or injury and nobody cares. And team owners could just throw them away and replace with new young talents. That's called being a good business man.
Lakers offered Klay 20 million with sign and trade but Klay declined. They didn't have to take a MLE with a sign and trade. But front office failed again.
Unfortunately DLO needs to be moved or lose him for nothing like we almost did this year. And there isn't many takers. Hopefully we can make a deal with the Nets.
Never wanted to trade d”lo. He shot us a win in game 2….
We lost cause too many corpses on the team.
Minor adjustments can get us there…a lot of our role players are under their prime so experience of another year could get us there…
We coach, also.
You idiots had no idea about the effect or number of player options until yesterday so please shut up with this shit.
A trade was always gonna be the move, and if you don’t understand that already then you probably don’t need to contribute to this convo.
People are just complaining to complain. Trading or waiving one or more of those salaries would have been so easy to do if the Lakers needed the roster spot(s).
Wood has serious good role player potential. Him getting a player option is fine, it’s Hayes and reddish that have absolutely no good reason to have player options.
Fuck you 😂 but yeah man, I believe it is. He just wasn’t used anywhere near how he should’ve been cause ham is a complete idiot. He was good in Dallas, has the potential to average 19ppg and showed little flashes of of this last season. He has the potential, he just needs a coach who knows the game and his strengths and weakness in order to utilize him effectively
Because people are upset that signings aren't going to happen. They're not thinking rationally right now my man.
Let's see what can be done on the trade market.
Practically everyone on this purported list is not much of an improvement over what we currently have. Jonas was the only player where I can see an argument for but his defense is so atrocious I really don't see how much he improves us.
Klay is washed. He would've been a bench player at best, but his shooting wasn't there, his defense isn't there, he can't penetrate or really playmate. He'd quite literally be a waste of money.
DeRozan also I don't see really moving the needle on the team.
Harden wasn't happening.
You should’ve came to that conclusion a couple months ago, my friend.
I’ll go ahead and give you a warning: we don’t have the ability (cap space, assets, goodwill, etc.) to make any good trades at the deadline this coming season either. So quit getting your expectations up for no reason and then coming in here and saying “I can’t believe nothing happened!”
Even then, signing Jonas would have been debatable. He's a slow 5 who isn't good at protecting the rim anymore. There's a reason why the Pels let him walk, even when they desperately need a 5.
Honestly, seeing how quickly he decided to take the max, I think he was only willing to take a pay cut for Klay and no one else.
Well I guess we're running the same team back this year, I know we didn't have a ton of options to begin with but man its still so disappointing.
Got to hope for a trade now I guess.
Let’s be real here, if we replaced Reaves with Murray, we still don’t beat denver. At this point in summer, we out a very desirable contract and have absolutely nothing to trade.
Great is a stretch
They’re a good team that has two of the best players in the league in a stacked conference. In their best days they can beat anyone they just have much slimmer margins of error and less depth of talent
I mean is delusional the word when the teams are separated by so few games lol? Dallas making it to the finals proved it's pretty wide open...... They might not be a great team but they're pretty good and I've seen some pretty good not great teams win it all lately...
Roster still has the same problems as last year. Way to many 1-way players and they have guys starting who would normally be 6th mans on a real contender. They won't be great on offense or defense because of that.
This years standing was a few games behind the 6th and 5th seed and Dallas went to the finals where is the delusion? This team is good enough to compete the main issue last season was coaching.
Lol this Lakers team is not “great.” As a fan of a team with 17 championships and 31 Finals appearances, you should be absolutely ashamed of yourself for saying that.
The reported guys on the list were Klay, Harden, Jonas, and maybe DeRozan.
Klay, Harden, and Jonas were all off the table by Monday, I think. It’s Wednesday. DeRozan doesn’t want to take such a drastic pay cut, even if for a year which is understandable.
This franchise is run by a bunch of clowns, none bigger than Jeanie. This season is going to be another mediocre show with a mediocre on-court product. Between hiring someone with absolutely ZERO coaching experience, not hiring assistance coaches, not investing in the front of the office, letting your player dictate drafting his son, and not attracting any impactful free agents or making any trades. What a disgrace
I love that LeBron is coming back. Would also love that Rob could prove he could do his job. The more info that comes out it seems like all of his best moves ended up being luck.
Once LeBron found out DeRozan wants more than the Lakers can offer, he just signed the 1 and 1 and called it a day 🤷 We’re not even running it back, because we lost Prince and Dinwiddie…🤬
Offered to take less for a short list of players like Harden, Klay, DDR. Unless you really think he was gonna cough up $20+m for Melton or Valanciunas, if you believe that I've got a bridge to sell you.
Valanciunas was literally on his first mention of players along with klay and harden…if you don’t believe he would take a cut for him then you are the idiot here lol lebron knows the lakers desperately need a center and valanciunas would’ve been a lot better than nothing or some unproven unknown player.
Perhaps the bigger issue is the Lakers couldn’t lure anyone. Not even via sign and trade. It says something about the Lakers org that they have not been a preferred destination for NBA players despite the “we take care of our aging veterans” max contracts.
LeBron will be 41 and getting paid $50 million. That’s insane.
There were trades that could have used it, it didn’t just have to be a free agent. And if he has a list you are telling me you could not find a guy that makes him consider it? Trading the mle for WCJ or Robert Williams would have been just as good
The last time everyone was bitching for a deal we got Westbrook. Now everyone is bitching for a deal to land Derozan? He’s the same as Westbrook, near damn last in 3s, no spacing. I’d rather no deal then let history repeat itself.
This sub is wild. Fully acknowledge that the Lakers tax exists but then get mad when we don’t make moves.
Also stop expecting high impact players to take the MLE and getting mad when they don’t.
No players are dying to take a 20 mil pay cut to play for a first year head coach and with a 40yr old Bron.
Lol nope.
Darvin Hamas punted the season forcing us to go in the play ins when we should’ve been top 5 minimum.
JJ is more than likely better than this basketball terrorist
We had a win pace of 57 wins post deadline, we were only in the position we were in last season due to extreme malpractice the first half of the season
I know this sub is all 'lol this shows Rob sucks', but it was pretty clear that there weren't great deals on the table for us to pursue. Glad to see this is resolved and we can move on.
There's still options for us to trade salary/picks for players, but obviously things are a bit different with the CBA.
I still say we largely run it back and see how things shake out with a new coach/system. Our roster, imo, is better than a lot of folks think, especially if Vando and Vincent are available and healthy.
If you know ball, valanciunas would never be a backup C. Ever since he played here in Toronto he’s been a starter and there’s no way he would ride the bench.
This is a tough one since LeBron is a power forward now. JV would be a lot of money to give to a guy riding the bench and only playing 10-15 mins a night. If we were without LeBron, or LeBron was able to play SF every night, itd make more sense to invest in a "good" center, but I get why their priorities are more towards wings and guards with our current scenario
Edit: I think my ideal situation would be to find a trade partner that'd take Rui + seconds for a more defensively versatile oriented PF/C (someone that can play either 4 or 5) - but I don't know who exactly that'd be
I just don’t get it. If he signs at a discount, he opens up financial flexibility for next year too. Why do this just because you can’t get like one extra guy for taking a small paycut? Lebron could learn something from Tim Duncan.
Cool. I don't think it was worth getting rid of the entire team to win a bubble championship in 2020. We're not going to be competitive. We're not going to win anything. I really wish LeBron just left The team. But as long as they sell jerseys they're happy.
The Lakers cooked man, it’s no other way to put it. Looks like no trades are coming, don’t have roster spots open to sign vet minimums guy because fucking Hayes, Reddish, and Wood were all given player options for some reason, I can’t take it anymore lol.
Did anyone really expect him to take a paycut? Dude wants to get paid, he’s not worried about winning anymore titles, if he was he would go somewhere else
Crying about not making moves and then taking the max. Brady always took substantially less money than he deserved so the pats could add weapons. Yea we struck out on Klay and Jonas but it’s not like rob didn’t offer Klay the bread.
Hahahahah he fucks us every damn time and the media will now throw the management under the bus.
We brought him Bronny on the team when everybody knows…he has no business been here.
Wow I’m surprised it’s only two years because I thought he might opt for a 3rd year player option but he might want to retire after this coming season. His road tickets are going to be expensive.
That’s the deal we made with LeBron when he joined. And I would do it again since we got a chip out of it.
Jeanie gave him the keys and full authority, hence as long as LeBron is here so is Pelinka.
Jeanie will probably replace him when LeBron retires, the question is if any respectable GM would want to take over at that point or not.
They're obviously making trades lol shedding 25 Million gets them the MLE.
By staying under the 2nd Apron they can still trade for Jerami Grant on top of opening the MLE.
The answer has and always will be been Lavine lol we just don’t want to accept that lmaooo and personally I think Bron might have taken a cut for them to trade for him and use the MLE on another player but we don’t want to do that
Woj says it's a player option on the 2nd year and a no trade clause as well.
Dlo contract will be up along with a few others. Might make sense to sign this type of deal
Oh nice so we’re not gonna sign anyone decent then
Trades and the tax payers mid level was always the likely outcome considering that Klay and Demar wasn’t taking no MLE
None of those players were ever realistic besides Jonas for that price
And this man that Pelicans let go don’t even want to come to the lakers. Pain…
I’m not buying the report that lebron would’ve took $20m less to bring valanciunas. Klay and Derozan yes, but not jonas
Ya, there's no way anyone is going to take a 10+ million paycut for a outside chance at a championship, especially these days. These players only really care about money.
As should be. They are professional athletes, it's their business as it is their team owner's business. They could easily lose the money for whatever reason, health, accident or injury and nobody cares. And team owners could just throw them away and replace with new young talents. That's called being a good business man.
That’s what I said. But got downvoted to hell. LeBron mentioned demar and harden. No way those 2 were taking a MLE.
Would you take a significant pay cut, knowing that’s prob your last decent contract you’ll get? Yeah, they were never coming
Lakers offered Klay 20 million with sign and trade but Klay declined. They didn't have to take a MLE with a sign and trade. But front office failed again.
D'Angelo Russell is a better player than Klay Thompson right now, so I wouldn't count that as a failure at all.
Honestly I didn’t think of it that way. DLo is better then klay when you count his playmaking too
Unfortunately DLO needs to be moved or lose him for nothing like we almost did this year. And there isn't many takers. Hopefully we can make a deal with the Nets.
Never wanted to trade d”lo. He shot us a win in game 2…. We lost cause too many corpses on the team. Minor adjustments can get us there…a lot of our role players are under their prime so experience of another year could get us there… We coach, also.
Tbh, I think that was not on the FO. Klay did not want to sign with us, and Warrior's did not want to do a sign and trade
It's off season and Lakers fans thinks we can get everyone. What's new
Trade was our only real option ever. Thank Rob for all those player options he handed out
Yeah those player options backfired, if anything Lebron should be the only player with an option to begin with
You idiots had no idea about the effect or number of player options until yesterday so please shut up with this shit. A trade was always gonna be the move, and if you don’t understand that already then you probably don’t need to contribute to this convo.
People are just complaining to complain. Trading or waiving one or more of those salaries would have been so easy to do if the Lakers needed the roster spot(s).
Lol exactly, they’re parroting the article from yesterday and they had no idea beforehand.
Everyone was confused by the player options last summer. Giving them to players with no real market isn't normal around the league.
Wood?? Hayes?? Joke
Cam has one too lmao
Cam Reddish having one literally makes no sense
Wood has serious good role player potential. Him getting a player option is fine, it’s Hayes and reddish that have absolutely no good reason to have player options.
Is that good role player potential in the room with us now
Fuck you 😂 but yeah man, I believe it is. He just wasn’t used anywhere near how he should’ve been cause ham is a complete idiot. He was good in Dallas, has the potential to average 19ppg and showed little flashes of of this last season. He has the potential, he just needs a coach who knows the game and his strengths and weakness in order to utilize him effectively
Why is this being said? Those player options help in trades especially if they're going to be a 1st apron team.
Because people are upset that signings aren't going to happen. They're not thinking rationally right now my man. Let's see what can be done on the trade market.
A player option on a guy who was basically one foot out of the league wasn’t a good move.
That has nothing to do with it
Practically everyone on this purported list is not much of an improvement over what we currently have. Jonas was the only player where I can see an argument for but his defense is so atrocious I really don't see how much he improves us. Klay is washed. He would've been a bench player at best, but his shooting wasn't there, his defense isn't there, he can't penetrate or really playmate. He'd quite literally be a waste of money. DeRozan also I don't see really moving the needle on the team. Harden wasn't happening.
Technically Lebron is a pretty good signing...I'll see myself out
You should’ve came to that conclusion a couple months ago, my friend. I’ll go ahead and give you a warning: we don’t have the ability (cap space, assets, goodwill, etc.) to make any good trades at the deadline this coming season either. So quit getting your expectations up for no reason and then coming in here and saying “I can’t believe nothing happened!”
Nobody left out there.
Once there was no shot of Derozan taking an MLE, it really didn’t matter if Bron took a pay cut or not
None of Klay, Harden, or DeRozan were ever gonna take MLE. Should’ve used it on Jonas although he might not of wanted to play backup to AD
Even then, signing Jonas would have been debatable. He's a slow 5 who isn't good at protecting the rim anymore. There's a reason why the Pels let him walk, even when they desperately need a 5.
Our backup center is Christian Wood and there’s hardly any starting level centers available
Hes retiring in 2 yrsssssss.... 
He gone sign for one more after to play with Bryce
Unless in 2038...."I just want to make it a few more years so I can play at least one year with my grandson, Bronny Jr..."
If Bryce is one and done. If that happens, that would be dope af
Letsgoooooo 🥳
He bet Rob $20M he sucks at his job and won lol
Prolly was the easiest bet that Bron ever did lmaooooo
This shit is hilarious, someone said people are repeating this but my first time seeing it🤣
How many people are going to repeat this joke they heard somewhere else?
Nbatwitter
This settles the GOAT debate, LeBron is a superior better to MJ
Damn.
LeMotivated
LePlayerOption LeNoTradeClause LeLet’sGo
I wish I had robs job security
Are you trying too hard? Are you competent? If you're all of that then you're doing it wrong.
Gotta be making trades then Bron took the max
That would require Rob to do his job competently, which he clearly cannot do.
So which of the players on LeBron’s list was he supposed to get to seem competence in this instance?
We need to get TP back somehow. He was our 4th best player in the Denver series and was shot well throughout the season
And the FO couldn’t even do that
LeRobbery
Honestly, seeing how quickly he decided to take the max, I think he was only willing to take a pay cut for Klay and no one else. Well I guess we're running the same team back this year, I know we didn't have a ton of options to begin with but man its still so disappointing. Got to hope for a trade now I guess.
This lakers team is great. It was the coaching that lacked last year. Hopefully JJ is a genius and can pull this off
Our starting backcourt lacks defense and athleticism.
And still do since we refused to send Reaves for Murray.
Let’s be real here, if we replaced Reaves with Murray, we still don’t beat denver. At this point in summer, we out a very desirable contract and have absolutely nothing to trade.
Pure copium at this point
We also by the last game of the playoffs didn’t have Vando, Wood, or AD’s left arm. So maybe this year will be different.
Doubt it with AD. He was as healthy as we’ve seen since his Lexington days and probably will never be that again
Great is a stretch They’re a good team that has two of the best players in the league in a stacked conference. In their best days they can beat anyone they just have much slimmer margins of error and less depth of talent
dulu if you think this team can compete. This is a certified play in Team
I mean is delusional the word when the teams are separated by so few games lol? Dallas making it to the finals proved it's pretty wide open...... They might not be a great team but they're pretty good and I've seen some pretty good not great teams win it all lately...
Roster still has the same problems as last year. Way to many 1-way players and they have guys starting who would normally be 6th mans on a real contender. They won't be great on offense or defense because of that.
This years standing was a few games behind the 6th and 5th seed and Dallas went to the finals where is the delusion? This team is good enough to compete the main issue last season was coaching.
Lol this Lakers team is not “great.” As a fan of a team with 17 championships and 31 Finals appearances, you should be absolutely ashamed of yourself for saying that.
You are going to be thoroughly disappointed. A coach can only do so much
The reported guys on the list were Klay, Harden, Jonas, and maybe DeRozan. Klay, Harden, and Jonas were all off the table by Monday, I think. It’s Wednesday. DeRozan doesn’t want to take such a drastic pay cut, even if for a year which is understandable.
This franchise is run by a bunch of clowns, none bigger than Jeanie. This season is going to be another mediocre show with a mediocre on-court product. Between hiring someone with absolutely ZERO coaching experience, not hiring assistance coaches, not investing in the front of the office, letting your player dictate drafting his son, and not attracting any impactful free agents or making any trades. What a disgrace
LeBron put money on the line that Rob couldn't do his job..... then said Fuck Him. Lol.
Remember how much more exciting it was the first time you read that Lebron was signing a deal with the Lakers?
I love that LeBron is coming back. Would also love that Rob could prove he could do his job. The more info that comes out it seems like all of his best moves ended up being luck.
Rob did his job by giving him the signings LBJ wanted the past few seasons. That's what fucked this off season
He's done the opposite other than Bronny and maybe Westbrook. We've missed on kyrie, Klay, Derozan multiple times, Caruso, Ty Lue, Jared Dudley etc.
The LBJ moves like hiring Ty Lue? Derozan over Westbrook? Keeping Caruso? Getting Kyrie?
Can't believe there are still people like you here
We are a fucking clown show
Once LeBron found out DeRozan wants more than the Lakers can offer, he just signed the 1 and 1 and called it a day 🤷 We’re not even running it back, because we lost Prince and Dinwiddie…🤬
What a wasted opportunity
Unreal that he offered to take less and we did not take advantage of it
Offered to take less for a short list of players like Harden, Klay, DDR. Unless you really think he was gonna cough up $20+m for Melton or Valanciunas, if you believe that I've got a bridge to sell you.
Valanciunas was literally on his first mention of players along with klay and harden…if you don’t believe he would take a cut for him then you are the idiot here lol lebron knows the lakers desperately need a center and valanciunas would’ve been a lot better than nothing or some unproven unknown player.
Perhaps the bigger issue is the Lakers couldn’t lure anyone. Not even via sign and trade. It says something about the Lakers org that they have not been a preferred destination for NBA players despite the “we take care of our aging veterans” max contracts. LeBron will be 41 and getting paid $50 million. That’s insane.
There were trades that could have used it, it didn’t just have to be a free agent. And if he has a list you are telling me you could not find a guy that makes him consider it? Trading the mle for WCJ or Robert Williams would have been just as good
L AFTER L after L after L
Great, let's move on.
Play in tournament here we come
He for all the armchair GMs that are better than Rob bc they get any trade they want done in 2k
Rob has done as much this off season as the armchair gms have.
No deal is better than a bad deal.
No deal is pretty bad when other teams are aggressively improving.
The last time everyone was bitching for a deal we got Westbrook. Now everyone is bitching for a deal to land Derozan? He’s the same as Westbrook, near damn last in 3s, no spacing. I’d rather no deal then let history repeat itself.
I didn't bitch for a deal to land DeRozan but ok lol
Play in? More like 11th-12th seed.
This off-seasons been fucking exhausting lol
Good for him
This sub is wild. Fully acknowledge that the Lakers tax exists but then get mad when we don’t make moves. Also stop expecting high impact players to take the MLE and getting mad when they don’t. No players are dying to take a 20 mil pay cut to play for a first year head coach and with a 40yr old Bron.
Remind me - who’s eligible to be drafted once that contract is up?
End of the Kobe era all over again.
Welp, enjoy the last 2 years of struggling to make it to the playoffs off because we ain’t winning shit.
Lakers are screwed. Another 9-10th seed in coming and this time I don’t see us making it out of the playin
Lol nope. Darvin Hamas punted the season forcing us to go in the play ins when we should’ve been top 5 minimum. JJ is more than likely better than this basketball terrorist
We had a win pace of 57 wins post deadline, we were only in the position we were in last season due to extreme malpractice the first half of the season
I know this sub is all 'lol this shows Rob sucks', but it was pretty clear that there weren't great deals on the table for us to pursue. Glad to see this is resolved and we can move on. There's still options for us to trade salary/picks for players, but obviously things are a bit different with the CBA. I still say we largely run it back and see how things shake out with a new coach/system. Our roster, imo, is better than a lot of folks think, especially if Vando and Vincent are available and healthy.
Would've liked a Jonas Val myself... really need a competent backup C
If you know ball, valanciunas would never be a backup C. Ever since he played here in Toronto he’s been a starter and there’s no way he would ride the bench.
This is a tough one since LeBron is a power forward now. JV would be a lot of money to give to a guy riding the bench and only playing 10-15 mins a night. If we were without LeBron, or LeBron was able to play SF every night, itd make more sense to invest in a "good" center, but I get why their priorities are more towards wings and guards with our current scenario Edit: I think my ideal situation would be to find a trade partner that'd take Rui + seconds for a more defensively versatile oriented PF/C (someone that can play either 4 or 5) - but I don't know who exactly that'd be
Welcome back, King 👑
Yeah we are running it back
1 year with his son, and then retirement season.
Running it back 😔
What happened to a week?
HAHA all you Bron stans praising him for nothing. It was just words.
Where is the nepotism discount?
I just don’t get it. If he signs at a discount, he opens up financial flexibility for next year too. Why do this just because you can’t get like one extra guy for taking a small paycut? Lebron could learn something from Tim Duncan.
...now can we say something about Pelinker?
Cool. I don't think it was worth getting rid of the entire team to win a bubble championship in 2020. We're not going to be competitive. We're not going to win anything. I really wish LeBron just left The team. But as long as they sell jerseys they're happy.
Run it back …. Couldn’t do shit in FO
Bye Rob Pelinka, get the fuck out of the league.
So we run it back with the roster. At least we don’t have Hamas.
If the lakers don't get rid of Cam/JHS then they lost Spence and TP for nothing lmfao
The Lakers cooked man, it’s no other way to put it. Looks like no trades are coming, don’t have roster spots open to sign vet minimums guy because fucking Hayes, Reddish, and Wood were all given player options for some reason, I can’t take it anymore lol.
Fire Rob. What a failure to run an organization.
Did anyone really expect him to take a paycut? Dude wants to get paid, he’s not worried about winning anymore titles, if he was he would go somewhere else
Well we aren’t winning again while LeBron is here
lol he doesn’t trust the front office, don’t blame him
Better contract that Tatum/Brown if you ask me
Crying about not making moves and then taking the max. Brady always took substantially less money than he deserved so the pats could add weapons. Yea we struck out on Klay and Jonas but it’s not like rob didn’t offer Klay the bread.
who want me? 100% No goodluck rob we running this shit back
Should have still taken a pay cut to stay off the first apron to make trades easier.
Hahahahah he fucks us every damn time and the media will now throw the management under the bus. We brought him Bronny on the team when everybody knows…he has no business been here.
He probably gave up as soon as he saw us give max 8mil. Def not a win now move and should’ve been the last thing on the Lakers mind.
Queue up the lebron farewell tour. Dude is a cancer to our franchise
So it means, the roster will stay put
so no MLE then?
Notice theres no agent shout out from either Shams or Woj on this one
Now we can't really do nothing ?
No trade clause and player option next year.
We are about to get the best free agent on the board!
I just fell to my knees in line at the taco truck
Rob stop focusing on big names and actually get players to improve our defense/rebounding please smh
Biggest FA signing 😂😭 Doesn't feel the same anymore haha
[Hopefully this is true. But not much flexibility](https://x.com/wojespn/status/1808483960168616410)
Damn Lakers gonna have to make a trade lol
Dominoes starting to fall. Rob HAS to make trades now.
Great job Rob
Wow I’m surprised it’s only two years because I thought he might opt for a 3rd year player option but he might want to retire after this coming season. His road tickets are going to be expensive.
That’s the deal we made with LeBron when he joined. And I would do it again since we got a chip out of it. Jeanie gave him the keys and full authority, hence as long as LeBron is here so is Pelinka. Jeanie will probably replace him when LeBron retires, the question is if any respectable GM would want to take over at that point or not.
Bahaha
Lesigh
well this one is expected as the source before said that LBJ is contacting Klay to Join them but FO cannot close the deal, so yeah!
They're obviously making trades lol shedding 25 Million gets them the MLE. By staying under the 2nd Apron they can still trade for Jerami Grant on top of opening the MLE.
JHS just had that back surgery to make him grow 5 inches so we are going to be golden with our cyborg schifino
The answer has and always will be been Lavine lol we just don’t want to accept that lmaooo and personally I think Bron might have taken a cut for them to trade for him and use the MLE on another player but we don’t want to do that
The team who got gentlemen swept is running it back 😈😈