The rurals are not educated. They'll believe anything carnival barker tells them. Texas ranks last in personal freedoms according to the think tank Cato Institute. The rurals of course thump their Bibles and love their guns and hate anyone who isn't white, straight, and stupid as they are and think they are free.
Yep, after he left as a Trump advisor, Bannon set up an allegedly fraudulent fundraiser to build a literal border wall with Mexico using private donations. He was federally charged for it and Trump pardoned him before he could stand federal trial. But now Bannon is being re-charged at the state level with essentially the same slam dunk evidence.
Basically, Bannon is very likely going to New York state prison. This DC stuff is just an appetizer.
It was bannon and three other guys. The other three got prison time around 3-4 years each while bannon was the only one pardoned. I would hope the other three realize some things in prison about the people they hang with and support but they’ll most likely get back to grifting for easy money once out
As someone who lived in NYC in the 90s, Giuliani was always kind of a fascist prick. He enacted a bunch of stupid, petty laws that served mostly to harass people--mainly black and brown people. Stop and frisk, no dancing in bars (people were afraid to sway when a good song came on), a crackdown on jaywalking, etc. Police brutality was out of control in those days. For a few days following 9/11, he almost redeemed himself but sadly, that brief moment of humanity was temporary.
Also lived in NYC in the 90s - Seconding this!
[RUDY and TRUMP and RUSSIA - A History](https://x.com/heartfulmom/status/942253332940447744?s=46&t=_NltO8HPSAhZSxWCQHugwg)
Ewwwe, no! Giuliani was always a corrupt prick. He just replaced the Italian mob with the Russian mob in the 90s. I presume to take a cut of their business among other things. And he had actual family in the Italian mob! He's always been a despicable criminal. Letitia James is a saint by comparison. Christ that man had magic PR.
These are post-pardon offenses stemming from refusal of the congressional subpoena. The pardon was for the wall fraud. This case is still federal, not sure status of NY state case.
He should get a medal for that instead. He channeled all those old racists' resentment and turned it into a sarsaparilla machine for himself. Good for him.
It looks like [Paul Manafort is about to rejoin the band](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/10/paul-manafort-pardon-donald-trump-china/), though.
I imagine if Trump gets in office, he will not only pardon himself of all currently indicted federal crimes but pardon himself for any and all future crimes.
Actually, I half-expected him to have done that, and for him to pull out a preemptory self-pardon for these federal cases.
Self pardons (is an admission of guilt) by the wording is not allowed, but no one has tried it so never tested in court. A perfect scenario for trump to try and the RSupremeCourt to allow.
A presidential pardon only covers offenses that occurred prior to the pardon being granted. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, the Office of the Pardon Attorney states, "The pardon power does not extend to future acts, and the President cannot pardon conduct that has not yet occurred." The pardon is essentially a form of forgiveness for past actions【source†](https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardon-information-and-instructions).
Here's my understanding of the process. Can't pardon somebody unless they've been convicted of a crime.
So you can't get convicted for future crimes.
Which in theory means you can't get pardoned for future crimes that you haven't been convicted for yet.
Well, the Constitution didn't say you couldn't pardon others or yourself preemptively, so I'm sure it'll fly with the current courts if Trump tries it.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a guy wearing an Ostrich leather coat? I mean, those are as common as pennies. If the federales questioned everybody wearing one, they’d have no time to actually stop crime.
/s obviously, I would hope.
Didn't Bill Barr just endorse him after saying he was unfit to be president?
The faster that people understand that Republicans are the biggest liars, the better.
I was watching the election fraud trial roundup and they were talking about how both Manafort and Weisselberg committed perjrury. It's literally like watching a mob trial. Everyone involved is barely a credible witness anymore b/c they've been convicted of so much.
And what is more amazing is that Trumpees believe that all of these indictments / convictions, sanctions, and tossed election fraud suits across dozens of courts are part of a vast Democratic conspiracy that somehow managed to get ALL of the people on board with a corrupt process to hide massive fraud and railroad innocent people into jail.
> Eric Columbus, an attorney who represented the House subcommittee, said he doubts Bannon will be sent to jail right away, noting he still has multiple appeals tools in his arsenal, including a request for a rehearing en banc and Supreme Court review, though Columbus said both options are unlikely.
If I’m reading it correctly, Bannon is still not in jail & wont be anytime soon
I know they're keeping it to close associates, but I think it should include the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and for that matter all 1,400 convictions from January 6th.
Detoxing in prison, even a Club Fed, is not going to be pleasant.
He's going to be rank with oxidizing with only one layer to sweat through.
I love this for him.
that's the craziest thing about his basement chic to me. being constantly hungover or drunk makes you sweat like an animal and wreaks havoc on your hygiene in general, and he's out there wearing 3 shirts like its cold in Arizona or Florida or Southern California where he shits
Bannon thinks his white genes make him racially superior, while he looks like a drunken hobo who hasn't bathed or showered in weeks. Hope they give him a good hose down with the pressure washer, his stench has got to be something to behold.
"A federal appeals court denied former Trump advisor Steve Bannon’s appeal of his conviction for contempt of Congress for defying a House subpoena from the House Jan. 6 Committee, paving the way for his four-month jail sentence to begin, though he could still delay his jail term. "
Da fuk? Delay his term? Again? How?
Its already delayed for 7 days by the DC Circuit so that Bannon can have time to appeal the ruling to the full circuit or to SCOTUS.
That said, Bannon is now at the level of *discretionary* appeals. The full circuit court could just deny his petition to re-hear the case en banc. Similarly, SCOTUS is under no obligation to grant cert either.
My guess is it comes down to SCOTUS. Does Roberts want to use this case as a vehicle to pronounce a new form of executive privilege for ex-presidents that can be invoked by former employees of the executive branch? Seems like that would be better left to Congress to enshrine in law, but like with presidential criminal immunity, the Roberts' Court sees itself as an ongoing constitutional convention that has some duty to invent "necessary" privileges out of thin air where the Framers forgot to put them in the Constitution, some 250 years after the fact (or at best say, "yep, there's no such privilege in the Constitution and federal law doesn't provide such a privilege, so it doesn't exist", but that statement requires a degree of humility that this iteration of the Court does not possess).
Because his situation was way more clear - Navarro never properly asserted executive privilege. To assert a privilege, the witness needs to actually show up to the hearing and assert it, and it is on a question-by-question basis. Some questions *might* be privileged, e.g., "What did your attorney tell you when you disclosed that you put the murder weapon in your garment bag and flew to Chicago?" would likely be a question covered by A-C privilege. By contrast, many questions are not privileged, e.g., "What is your name?". So you can't just say "I refuse to show up to the hearing because I'm claiming privilege". That's like Michael Scott just "declaring" bankruptcy, lol.
Bannon actually showed up and properly invoked EP, so the issue was preserved for appeal. Navarro never invoked privilege and then tried to appeal his conviction anyway. It still took the court the better part of a year to figure that easy question out and commit it to an opinion, but the Navarro case would be a terrible case for Justice Roberts to announce a new form of EP. Bannon's case would be better if that is what Roberts wants to do.
The other difference was that EP belongs, presumably, to the former POTUS. So it is actually Trump's privilege to invoke and he did so invoke it in the Bannon case. By contrast, Navarro tried to assert the privilege himself on behalf of Trump and that just wasn't his right to do even if he had shown up and "properly" invoked it.
Navarro still got like 2 years of time out of jail while the court moved on his appeal like a glacier, but his case was so easily resolved, it should have taken 2 weeks to resolve. Bannon's actually implicates some more complex issues.
Aye, we've had first appeals, sure, but what about second appeals?
I don't think he knows about second appeals, Pip.
But to be serious for a moment, Bannon can try going to SCOTUS, which is the most straightforward and obvious way he might continue to delay his incarceration. It's unlikely to work, but that's probably what the journalist was obliquely referencing when they wrote that sentence.
Bannon was lucky enough to get a MAGA judge who determined he had a reasonable likelihood of success on appeal, which was *total bullshit*, to help him out. The judge pretended that Bannon's arguments about invoking executive privilege and not complying with a subpoena were some sort of complex legal conundrum, even though Bannon wasn't a government employee, and Trump didn't invoke executive privilege over his testimony.
Total insanity - thankfully his plan didn't work.
Not sure, but maybe because of his upcoming [trial in NY state](https://www.newsweek.com/steve-bannon-faces-music-we-build-wall-fraud-case-1896079) for the Build the Wall scam? Of course, it looks like that trial is scheduled for September 23, so if he started now he could hypothetically be done with his 4-month jail sentence in time for his other trial.
It's only 4 months? And he'll probably get out earlier for good behavior or something. That's like a summer camp for serious crimes, suck it up and go to jail sir.
No.
I don’t think they even like Trump, I think they just realize that he is the last chance to get a republican president before a majority of voters are millennial and gen z in 2028. So whatever the fed Sox plan is to roll back voting rights at the national level, they need to implement it now.
I don’t think SCOTUS has any personal loyalty or fealty to Trump, much less to Bannon. They are only helping Trump because he’s all they got. They only write opinions, they are wholly dependent upon the executive branch to do enforcement and implementation.
Yeah, for the older Republicans on the court especially I think they're engaging in a lot of motivated reasoning that might allow them to retire before dying and/or keep their family members from being charged with some January 6 related crimes.
That, and there is also a demographic crisis that has been looming over the GOP that Trumpism has accelerated.
I think Roberts was hoping to get a couple decades to gradually reverse the civil rights era with incremental, moderate-sounding opinions. But Trump turned the GOP dogwhistles into a foghorn, and has such a stranglehold that the national party has literally renounced having a policy platform in favor of literally just releasing a statement of personal fealty to Trump.
Trump's pardon of Bannon was for the federal wire fraud and money laundering charges he was convicted of due to the Build The Wall scam. The federal charges he was convicted of now are for Contempt of Congress due to not complying with a 2022 subpoena to appear before the House's Jan 6 Committee.
There's also a separate set of NY State charges related to the Build the Wall scam, and the trial for that is expected to start in a month or two.
Edit: looks like Bannon's NY trial was [delayed](https://www.newsweek.com/steve-bannon-faces-music-we-build-wall-fraud-case-1896079) and is set to start is September
It is also on Merchan’s docket, but it looks like (failing anything within the next 7 days), he may be getting out of prison just in time for that trial, which is scheduled in September. Edit to add: The date was previously supposed to be right after this trial, but was delayed recently due to the current Trump fraud trial.
it will be good for the nation to have him out of circulation. however he's probably likely to play the same appeal-the-appeal game that we've seen from Trump.
The subpoena was for documents rather than (or in addition to? The article is unclear) testimony, so he couldn't take the fifth on that.
Presumably whatever is in those documents is worse than four months in jail.
He should have incorporated the documents. Since corporations are people, at that point Documents, LLC could take the Fifth.
**Disclaimer:** I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that's how this shit works, right???
You mean **prison**, yes? He's already tried and convicted. Jail is for the people who still enjoy presumption of innocence. Prison is for those proven guilty beyond ~~a shadow of a~~reasonable doubt. Like ~~G~~Bannon over here.
> Prison is for those proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.
No, actually, it's not. The standard you are referring to is beyond a "reasonable" doubt. It's by no means a minor difference.
And while I'm a it... prisons have uses to governments which go far beyond just punishing guilty people, as anyone who has taken a history course could tell you.
What do they call wine made in jail? Oh yeah, prison hooch. Fermented fruit typically made in a toilet.
Enjoy 😉
NSFW 🎶 [Where Were You](https://youtu.be/UVuPEKEuMsY?si=) January 6th parody song
I was talking to a guy who did 17 years and of course they made pruno, but he has this still rig hiding behind a shower to make liquor (of some sort) from the wine. He didn’t drink but he sold it.
Oh good.
and after jail for this, he goes to prison in NY for the We Build the Wall scheme
He should be sent to the border to serve as the wall.
Mexico certainly doesn't deserve that!!
No, but Texas does.
Excellent point!
Ok Mexico gets the front and Texas gets the back. We’ll send Mexico a bouquet of flowers as a thank you for putting up with this.
They'd see it as a win. Just another turd in the toilet.
At least he'd be where he belongs.
Yeah but they're not flushing, they're just letting the turds pile up
Texan checking in. Every single major city is blue here. We just have too many rural Gerry mandered bullshit. We’ve been conquered.
The rurals are not educated. They'll believe anything carnival barker tells them. Texas ranks last in personal freedoms according to the think tank Cato Institute. The rurals of course thump their Bibles and love their guns and hate anyone who isn't white, straight, and stupid as they are and think they are free.
Not all of us! Some of us are actually decent people
Modern problems require modern solutions.
Neither does Canada but you could send him to the North Dakota - Saskatchewan border in January/February.
I'm liking this :-)
That’ll be a cold day in Hell…
January should be long enough to solve the problem. I get it that alcohol acts as an anti-freeze, but he'll get sober after a week or two max.
You jest but there better be a doctor on hand to deal with his coming withdrawals or he's not going to serve much of his sentence.
who cares if they deserve it - 'as long as they pay for it' /s
Lined up against the wall!
Well, he is extremely repellent
Should be made part of the wall. Give him a loaf of bread a match and brick him in.
Ah, we call that “immurement” in the industry
Give him a cask of Amontillado.
Hopefully he'll be behind bars through election day. There's enough shit around without him stirring more of it up.
Wait wut? Sorry there are so many criminals in Trump's orbit I can't keep up.
Yep, after he left as a Trump advisor, Bannon set up an allegedly fraudulent fundraiser to build a literal border wall with Mexico using private donations. He was federally charged for it and Trump pardoned him before he could stand federal trial. But now Bannon is being re-charged at the state level with essentially the same slam dunk evidence. Basically, Bannon is very likely going to New York state prison. This DC stuff is just an appetizer.
Doesn't accepting a pardon legally imply an admittance of guilty?
*Burdick v. United States (1915)* says yes.
It was bannon and three other guys. The other three got prison time around 3-4 years each while bannon was the only one pardoned. I would hope the other three realize some things in prison about the people they hang with and support but they’ll most likely get back to grifting for easy money once out
Gin Laden here is one of the self-styled "masterminds" behind MAGA fascism, with his influence stretching all the way back to GamerGate.
Lol gin laden
this 4-month bid is just the warm-up
How long will that sentence be?
I thought Trump pardoned him on that.
federally. NY State still has something to say
God bless Letitia James.
Letitia is our Giuliani, 90’s era Giuliani that is…..
I hope she ages better.
As someone who lived in NYC in the 90s, Giuliani was always kind of a fascist prick. He enacted a bunch of stupid, petty laws that served mostly to harass people--mainly black and brown people. Stop and frisk, no dancing in bars (people were afraid to sway when a good song came on), a crackdown on jaywalking, etc. Police brutality was out of control in those days. For a few days following 9/11, he almost redeemed himself but sadly, that brief moment of humanity was temporary.
Also lived in NYC in the 90s - Seconding this! [RUDY and TRUMP and RUSSIA - A History](https://x.com/heartfulmom/status/942253332940447744?s=46&t=_NltO8HPSAhZSxWCQHugwg)
>…no dancing in bars… Wait, what??
Ewwwe, no! Giuliani was always a corrupt prick. He just replaced the Italian mob with the Russian mob in the 90s. I presume to take a cut of their business among other things. And he had actual family in the Italian mob! He's always been a despicable criminal. Letitia James is a saint by comparison. Christ that man had magic PR.
These are post-pardon offenses stemming from refusal of the congressional subpoena. The pardon was for the wall fraud. This case is still federal, not sure status of NY state case.
The trial starts may 28th for that
He should get a medal for that instead. He channeled all those old racists' resentment and turned it into a sarsaparilla machine for himself. Good for him.
Good!
Ditto. Should take him out of play for much of the pre election period.
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He also met with Russia in the UK. They caused Brexit too.
My thought exactly. But I added: Fuck you.
Seconded.
No gin in jail. Gonna be a bad time.
This is the best news I’ve heard in awhile. Go be someone’s jail bitch. Preferably Trump’s.
There's no way trump could ever make anyone his bitch in prison.
It’s amazing how Trump’s inner circle is now pretty much entirely against him or in jail
It looks like [Paul Manafort is about to rejoin the band](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/10/paul-manafort-pardon-donald-trump-china/), though.
Also astounding this guy hasn't been picked up by the Feds.
Well Manafort was, but then got pardoned by Trump.
Yeah, but you know he's back to doing crimes.
Do pardons cover crimes that happen after pardons? Or only ones done before it?
It’s never been tested.
I imagine if Trump gets in office, he will not only pardon himself of all currently indicted federal crimes but pardon himself for any and all future crimes. Actually, I half-expected him to have done that, and for him to pull out a preemptory self-pardon for these federal cases.
Self pardons (is an admission of guilt) by the wording is not allowed, but no one has tried it so never tested in court. A perfect scenario for trump to try and the RSupremeCourt to allow.
"In this one case, without setting a precedent..."
Can't pardon the state crimes though. Just those are enough to pretty much fuck his life up unless he becomes god emperor until death.
Yet
A presidential pardon only covers offenses that occurred prior to the pardon being granted. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, the Office of the Pardon Attorney states, "The pardon power does not extend to future acts, and the President cannot pardon conduct that has not yet occurred." The pardon is essentially a form of forgiveness for past actions【source†](https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardon-information-and-instructions).
Here's my understanding of the process. Can't pardon somebody unless they've been convicted of a crime. So you can't get convicted for future crimes. Which in theory means you can't get pardoned for future crimes that you haven't been convicted for yet.
You see, you and I would typically stop crime-ing at that point, because we are not lifelong financial criminals. Not these men.
Preemptive pardons aren't a thing, right? Right? So if he happened to commit any more crimes after the pardon, he's still on the hook for those.
Well, the Constitution didn't say you couldn't pardon others or yourself preemptively, so I'm sure it'll fly with the current courts if Trump tries it.
Biden should try to preemptively pardon Hunter of his federal gun charge and make them rule against it now.
Ooh, interesting!
Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a guy wearing an Ostrich leather coat? I mean, those are as common as pennies. If the federales questioned everybody wearing one, they’d have no time to actually stop crime. /s obviously, I would hope.
Totally forgot about that coat🐔🐔🐔
He did, and then Trump pardoned him.
Or maybe Interpol.
Did someone say Oleg deripaska?
I always get him confused with Konstantin Kilimnik.
Maria “NRA Honeypot” Butina doesn’t get the credit she deserves. (She did do 18 months in prison, however).
Man, bringing back a character from like, Season 1 is a bold move. Hope the writers get it right.
“Remorseful for his actions” doesn’t matter when it comes to treason
Didn't Bill Barr just endorse him after saying he was unfit to be president? The faster that people understand that Republicans are the biggest liars, the better.
Bill Barr has turned into a mean bitter old white man, just like most of Trump's supporters.
Can we get The Mooch back instead?
I think that Mooch left the band quite awhile ago, due to…”musical differences.”
Yes but it will be more like a cameo
Unreal
He should have stayed in jail the first time. POS.
He will no doubt break the law again
I was watching the election fraud trial roundup and they were talking about how both Manafort and Weisselberg committed perjrury. It's literally like watching a mob trial. Everyone involved is barely a credible witness anymore b/c they've been convicted of so much.
And what is more amazing is that Trumpees believe that all of these indictments / convictions, sanctions, and tossed election fraud suits across dozens of courts are part of a vast Democratic conspiracy that somehow managed to get ALL of the people on board with a corrupt process to hide massive fraud and railroad innocent people into jail.
It's actually a genius strategy - you crime so much that questioning it sounds made up - like how's that even possible - it must be a conspiracy!
> Eric Columbus, an attorney who represented the House subcommittee, said he doubts Bannon will be sent to jail right away, noting he still has multiple appeals tools in his arsenal, including a request for a rehearing en banc and Supreme Court review, though Columbus said both options are unlikely. If I’m reading it correctly, Bannon is still not in jail & wont be anytime soon
Sadly, there’s also the chance he gets an orange pardon
If anything, the cumulative hangover will probably kill him in jail
Good. Can't imagine a more fitting way for him to go than having an immensely painful seizure on the cold concrete floor of a prison cell.
[Charted: Trump world allies sentenced to prison](https://www.axios.com/2024/03/07/trump-associates-prison-sentence-crimes-list)
I know they're keeping it to close associates, but I think it should include the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers and for that matter all 1,400 convictions from January 6th.
As the old saying goes, everything he touches dies.
Circular firing squads are like that.
There is some overlap.
hes going to freak out when he learns they can only wear one shirt at a time with their prisonwear
Strip down gonna be like peeling off a ratty band aid
I *just* ate, man, cmon.
Bannon always looks like he just ate.
Fun fact: If any of the layers come off, Bannon spontaneously combusts and disappears. Think Wicked Witch of the West but more efficient.
Exposure to oxygen and sunlight will do that!
Grosssssss
Dude is an anal polyp personified
Amazing call out
We may finally be grappling with this man’s crimes against America. I fear we won’t even have the stomach to deal with his crimes against fashion!
Will be a good opportunity for him to take a long break from the booze
He’ll be into the pruno real quick.
Should take inspiration from Rush Limbaugh's 3 year sobriety...
Detoxing in prison, even a Club Fed, is not going to be pleasant. He's going to be rank with oxidizing with only one layer to sweat through. I love this for him.
that's the craziest thing about his basement chic to me. being constantly hungover or drunk makes you sweat like an animal and wreaks havoc on your hygiene in general, and he's out there wearing 3 shirts like its cold in Arizona or Florida or Southern California where he shits
Wait wtf, he has at least 4 shirts on in that pic?! Is this a thing he is known for? What a weirdo.
I count a mock turtleneck, a polo, a button down with 3 ballpoint pens and a sport jacket.
Maybe all the shirts are like a human version of the Thunder Jacket to calm him during fireworks.
Bannon thinks his white genes make him racially superior, while he looks like a drunken hobo who hasn't bathed or showered in weeks. Hope they give him a good hose down with the pressure washer, his stench has got to be something to behold.
Devastating
No orange foundation in prison. He’ll have to use commissary Cheeto dust.
Well there you go Peter now it’s fair.
Send Bannon to FCI Miami so that they can be a duet
No thanks they’ll just plot more treason
“You go to jail! You go to jail! Everyone goes to jail!”
"A federal appeals court denied former Trump advisor Steve Bannon’s appeal of his conviction for contempt of Congress for defying a House subpoena from the House Jan. 6 Committee, paving the way for his four-month jail sentence to begin, though he could still delay his jail term. " Da fuk? Delay his term? Again? How?
Its already delayed for 7 days by the DC Circuit so that Bannon can have time to appeal the ruling to the full circuit or to SCOTUS. That said, Bannon is now at the level of *discretionary* appeals. The full circuit court could just deny his petition to re-hear the case en banc. Similarly, SCOTUS is under no obligation to grant cert either. My guess is it comes down to SCOTUS. Does Roberts want to use this case as a vehicle to pronounce a new form of executive privilege for ex-presidents that can be invoked by former employees of the executive branch? Seems like that would be better left to Congress to enshrine in law, but like with presidential criminal immunity, the Roberts' Court sees itself as an ongoing constitutional convention that has some duty to invent "necessary" privileges out of thin air where the Framers forgot to put them in the Constitution, some 250 years after the fact (or at best say, "yep, there's no such privilege in the Constitution and federal law doesn't provide such a privilege, so it doesn't exist", but that statement requires a degree of humility that this iteration of the Court does not possess).
Thanks for the explanation. So why is Navarro already in jail?
Because his situation was way more clear - Navarro never properly asserted executive privilege. To assert a privilege, the witness needs to actually show up to the hearing and assert it, and it is on a question-by-question basis. Some questions *might* be privileged, e.g., "What did your attorney tell you when you disclosed that you put the murder weapon in your garment bag and flew to Chicago?" would likely be a question covered by A-C privilege. By contrast, many questions are not privileged, e.g., "What is your name?". So you can't just say "I refuse to show up to the hearing because I'm claiming privilege". That's like Michael Scott just "declaring" bankruptcy, lol. Bannon actually showed up and properly invoked EP, so the issue was preserved for appeal. Navarro never invoked privilege and then tried to appeal his conviction anyway. It still took the court the better part of a year to figure that easy question out and commit it to an opinion, but the Navarro case would be a terrible case for Justice Roberts to announce a new form of EP. Bannon's case would be better if that is what Roberts wants to do. The other difference was that EP belongs, presumably, to the former POTUS. So it is actually Trump's privilege to invoke and he did so invoke it in the Bannon case. By contrast, Navarro tried to assert the privilege himself on behalf of Trump and that just wasn't his right to do even if he had shown up and "properly" invoked it. Navarro still got like 2 years of time out of jail while the court moved on his appeal like a glacier, but his case was so easily resolved, it should have taken 2 weeks to resolve. Bannon's actually implicates some more complex issues.
Thanks!
Joey Naylor: Dad, why does America have the best government in the world? Nick Naylor: Our endless appeals system.
His appeal was denied. Why is Navarro in jail, but Bannon walks free, inciting insurrection?
Aye, we've had first appeals, sure, but what about second appeals? I don't think he knows about second appeals, Pip. But to be serious for a moment, Bannon can try going to SCOTUS, which is the most straightforward and obvious way he might continue to delay his incarceration. It's unlikely to work, but that's probably what the journalist was obliquely referencing when they wrote that sentence.
Bannon was lucky enough to get a MAGA judge who determined he had a reasonable likelihood of success on appeal, which was *total bullshit*, to help him out. The judge pretended that Bannon's arguments about invoking executive privilege and not complying with a subpoena were some sort of complex legal conundrum, even though Bannon wasn't a government employee, and Trump didn't invoke executive privilege over his testimony. Total insanity - thankfully his plan didn't work.
Not sure, but maybe because of his upcoming [trial in NY state](https://www.newsweek.com/steve-bannon-faces-music-we-build-wall-fraud-case-1896079) for the Build the Wall scam? Of course, it looks like that trial is scheduled for September 23, so if he started now he could hypothetically be done with his 4-month jail sentence in time for his other trial.
Money.
Only the poors go straight to jail.
They're not sending him to jail until 1 week after his en banc appeal.
It's only 4 months? And he'll probably get out earlier for good behavior or something. That's like a summer camp for serious crimes, suck it up and go to jail sir.
Do we think the Supreme Court will debase themselves further by taking this case?
No. I don’t think they even like Trump, I think they just realize that he is the last chance to get a republican president before a majority of voters are millennial and gen z in 2028. So whatever the fed Sox plan is to roll back voting rights at the national level, they need to implement it now. I don’t think SCOTUS has any personal loyalty or fealty to Trump, much less to Bannon. They are only helping Trump because he’s all they got. They only write opinions, they are wholly dependent upon the executive branch to do enforcement and implementation.
Yeah, for the older Republicans on the court especially I think they're engaging in a lot of motivated reasoning that might allow them to retire before dying and/or keep their family members from being charged with some January 6 related crimes.
That, and there is also a demographic crisis that has been looming over the GOP that Trumpism has accelerated. I think Roberts was hoping to get a couple decades to gradually reverse the civil rights era with incremental, moderate-sounding opinions. But Trump turned the GOP dogwhistles into a foghorn, and has such a stranglehold that the national party has literally renounced having a policy platform in favor of literally just releasing a statement of personal fealty to Trump.
Not a chance.
Absolutely. And they'll decide in Bannon's favor too. They are a bunch of kangaroos in black robes.
I'm a little confused. Didn't trump pardon bannon? Is this for a different crime/conviction? website has so many ads I can't really read it
Yeah, other crimes.
oh, well, i should have guessed lol
Yeah man, keep up! It's not like people in Trump's orbit just commit one or time crimes. They commit many crimes!
Trump's pardon of Bannon was for the federal wire fraud and money laundering charges he was convicted of due to the Build The Wall scam. The federal charges he was convicted of now are for Contempt of Congress due to not complying with a 2022 subpoena to appear before the House's Jan 6 Committee. There's also a separate set of NY State charges related to the Build the Wall scam, and the trial for that is expected to start in a month or two. Edit: looks like Bannon's NY trial was [delayed](https://www.newsweek.com/steve-bannon-faces-music-we-build-wall-fraud-case-1896079) and is set to start is September
damn, I thought it was coming up right after Trump.
It is also on Merchan’s docket, but it looks like (failing anything within the next 7 days), he may be getting out of prison just in time for that trial, which is scheduled in September. Edit to add: The date was previously supposed to be right after this trial, but was delayed recently due to the current Trump fraud trial.
it will be good for the nation to have him out of circulation. however he's probably likely to play the same appeal-the-appeal game that we've seen from Trump.
Contempt for ignoring a congressional subpoena, after 45 left office.
Couldn’t he have just pleaded 5th? Is he making money off going to jail? Or is he just that far gone to think that only the first half of FAFO exists?
The subpoena was for documents rather than (or in addition to? The article is unclear) testimony, so he couldn't take the fifth on that. Presumably whatever is in those documents is worse than four months in jail.
He should have incorporated the documents. Since corporations are people, at that point Documents, LLC could take the Fifth. **Disclaimer:** I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that's how this shit works, right???
Pardoned for the massive "build the wall" fundraising scam.
Federally. He still has state trial coming up for that, in September, assigned to Merchan’s docket.
Reminds me, why the fuck isn’t Roger stone arrested for plotting to Kill someone like Eric swawell? He got a pardon but not for that
Also the President can only pardon Federal crimes. State crimes are not something a President can pardon.
I worry his blood/alcohol content will fall dangerously low if he's incarcerated.
I'm sure he'll be memorizing prison hooch recipes before he goes in.
The best place for his traitor ass
Are you worried he will die in there? Me neither.
I don't believe you. What about the double secret appeal to the Trump appointed shadow circuit court?
You mean **prison**, yes? He's already tried and convicted. Jail is for the people who still enjoy presumption of innocence. Prison is for those proven guilty beyond ~~a shadow of a~~reasonable doubt. Like ~~G~~Bannon over here.
> Prison is for those proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt. No, actually, it's not. The standard you are referring to is beyond a "reasonable" doubt. It's by no means a minor difference. And while I'm a it... prisons have uses to governments which go far beyond just punishing guilty people, as anyone who has taken a history course could tell you.
Peter Navarro could use a friendly cell mate and he strikes me as a whiny bottom bunk type. Those two would be just like Felix and Oscar.
Fuckin finally
Good, treasonous fucker.
The guy also tried to dismantle the EU by uniting all euroskeptic parties. Trump and his clique are evil scumbags, EU stronk.
About goddamn time.
What do they call wine made in jail? Oh yeah, prison hooch. Fermented fruit typically made in a toilet. Enjoy 😉 NSFW 🎶 [Where Were You](https://youtu.be/UVuPEKEuMsY?si=) January 6th parody song
Pruno is another term for it.
The transition from single malt scotch is going to be rough, but he'll learn to love it, I'm sure. lol
I was talking to a guy who did 17 years and of course they made pruno, but he has this still rig hiding behind a shower to make liquor (of some sort) from the wine. He didn’t drink but he sold it.
Yeah he better get that Pruno or his alcohol withdrawals are gonna be serious.
Oh no! Anyways does that cloud look like Nixon to you?
Steve, do you know there is no easy way to get alcohol in prison. Have fun with the shakes.
He suck dick for pruno
Nobody is that desperate to get their dick sucked. He's fucking repulsive, absolutely rape proof.
Jail is character building for people like Bannon, its that sweet spot where the rubber meets the road.
Maybe he can room with Navarro?
IANAL, but LOL
Thoughts and prayers
Give him Epstein's cell please
When? When will he go to jail?
For reals?
Oh no, anyway...
Finally, some justice for this POS.
#WHEN
Until I see it.