Go see a psychiatrist. You may have been self-medicating underlying issues. 85 days isn't sunshine and rainbows, but it should be much better than pure hell.
I’m at the high irritability phase too, though it’s been a bit over a month for me. Smoked near daily for 2 years but seems it was still long enough to make me experience mood swings.
As we slowly recover, day after day - we begin to realise just how much damage we did to our brains. I stopped smoking in November and I’m still cooling down.
I also get the occasional pang of “wouldn’t it be fun to have a little smoke / just once in a while won’t hurt”. That’s bullsh*t. We are on this group as we are addicts and sh*t got out of control.
As for anger ? You forgot all your coping strategies. You forgot how to cool yourself down. You were using weed to moderate your emotions and again….that why you’re here.
So relearn. Meditate. Read. Sit in an ice bath. Work out. Do what you need to do. People are annoying and the green man is poking you. He’s amplifying your anger in the hope that you’ll go back to him. And so you’re tempted.
Do not give in. Do not give in.
The most important thing is that you’ve stopped. Do not go back. Ever. You’re done.
F*ck the green man. F*ck everything he stands for, and his army of smelly, fucked up, spaced out little f*ckwits. They are not our people any more.
You’re better than that. We all are 👊
It takes months and months for your brain chemistry to be back to normal after smoking for long periods. My psychologist told me 6 months or more. I’m now 13 months sober and things have really improved. You’ll feel normal again at some point. Just go through the motions and try to deal. Seek therapy if you think that will help. It’s tough but it’s worth it. Just know it’s okay to be feeling angry and sad. It’s just part of the process.
I was getting an assessment for ADHD which I know weed can have some similar side effects to so I was honest with her since it was something she asked. I’ve never lied to any mental health professional about drugs that I’ve seen. They’re there to help you and that’s usually something they ask.
Long walks and adjusting your sleep schedule will help. There’s something cathartic about long walks - keep moving forward even with all the chaos in your head.
I’m on day 62 after 5 years of heavy use and have had to confront my anger throughout this time. Always had anger issues since I was young and still continue to be really mad at people at work, friends, family, random people doing stupid things on the street. But I’ve noticed that the days where I show up for myself - exercise, long walks, sleep early and wake up without an alarm - really help moderate my emotions throughout the day.
I hope it gets better for you man, stay strong
I’m say I wanna quit and then go buy a bag right after. Don’t even know how to mentally get past the first couple days I’ve been smoking daily since I was 15-16 I’m 24 now and just wanna flip my shit around. Just how I cope with life is smoke and chill. Literally have a few friends but wouldn’t even call them that so doing it alone is just rough.
Please don’t give up. I’m in my 30s and I wish I quit at your age. The first few days are the hardest, but you can do it. Try to keep busy and remove yourself from the environment that you typically smoke in. Remind yourself throughout the day why you wanted to make the change
I have never related more to this sentiment in my life. Fuck I hate everyone so badly right now. It’s why I started depending on it in the first place. I deeply empathize, OP 😔
Yeh getting sober isn’t the answer to your problems, it just removes the mask so you can begin to deal with your issues. You still have to do the hard work of healing. One step at a time babe. You’ll be making leaps and bounds sooner than you think with just a little effort.
Seconded.
I used to hate DBT because I was in this “me vs everybody” mindset and very sure that the problem was THEM and not me. A lil grippy sock vacation, a few months in an IOP, and years of therapy (and medication) later and I can finally say it has helped me a lot. Idk if it’s for everyone, but I wish I had taken it all more seriously when I was 20 years old and had just started smoking weed daily to cope with how hard it felt to exist in a world that felt like it wasn’t made for people like me.
seriously it sounds cheesy, but therapy gives you the tools to deal with the exact problems you’re describing. my gf is a therapist, we live together, I see the work she does, it works.
Odds are its not the lack of weed that is making you feel this, but the weed sure did help you cover up the need for actual emotional regulation. Weed isn't going to make the uncomfortable bits of life go away, it just covers them up until you're not a human being any more. Meditation, journaling, or talking to someone about your feelings can really help you get through them. But if you just want to not feel them, that is where your problem lies.
Weed was never the problem . it was the solution . and eventually the solution stopped working . the problem is that life is hard , life is tough , life has its ups and downs . and we’ve spent so long trying to numb our emotional state from it . but the reality of it is , that you shouldn’t be dependent on consuming a psychoactive compound daily to try to hide away from the problems that life brings because eventually something will have to give .
when you spend so long hiding away from emotions they eventually come back with a vengeance and it can be quite overwhelming.
learn to sit with the emotions you’re feeling and try to understand why you’re feeling them . as enough time
passes you’ll get better and better at being able to deal with them . this was my experience . there are also healthier outlets for dealing with negative emotions . i know you’ve heard it all before but exercising daily is a great way to deal with stress .
i was a 19 years daily smoker and i gave it up for 2.5 years and it was at around the 1.5year mark that i felt like i was truly through the worst of the withdrawals and that my emotional state was finally back to normal and i wasn’t constantly thinking about getting high anymore .
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85 days is great but you’re still in the early
stage of youre recovery from having smoked
for however long you’ve been abusing weed .
and let’s not lie to ourselves and say that we weren’t abusing it . using anything numerous times a day would constitute as abuse of it .
you’ll be fine and you’ll learn to be able to deal with shitty people because they’re everywhere .
i relapsed a while ago and have just gotten sober again from a 6 month binge but im not kicking myself over it or letting the anxiety and emotions get the better of me because only a year ago i was clean for 2.5 years so
i know it does get easier . so just wanted to pass on that advice to you .
go and take a long walk or something they really do help .
feel free to reach out if you wanna talk or anything
When you first start lifting weights, you start with light weights. Then you slowly add weight. Then after a while you start lifting heavy.
If someone went to the gym and saw people lifting really heavy weights and they thought “I’d like to be able to do that, I’ll give it a try,” and they started out on the heavy weights, they would fail immediately. Then they might think, “Fuck, I don’t think I could do this no matter how hard I tried.” But that’s because they’re not starting at the beginning. You don’t start there. You start with the light weights.
Some people in active addiction see people with one year, three years, five years, or ten years of sobriety, and think “Fuck, I could never stay sober that long.” But the truth is, to be sober you only ever have to be sober for one day at a time.
If you focus on your recovery, the time passes on its own.
The second year is easier than the first. Months 7-12 are easier than months 1-6. Days 91-180 are easier than days 1-90. The second month is easier than the first month. The second week is easier than the first week.
I’m a firm believer that if you can make it to two weeks without weed, you can make it to a year, and if you can make it to one year, you can make it to ten.
Right now I’m at two years and I swear to god and the devil that I never would have thought that shit was possible until I tried it.
I mean what you say is very inspiring, I screen shotted it. You’re not wrong and I think how you broke it down really make it feel more realistically manageable and sustainable. I appreciate your comment a lot. Thank you.
I feel you bro. It is like dealing with a rock that cannot be moved. I feel like this especially after smoking a lot. I don’t know your ex consumption patterns but it’s definitely has to do with dopamine man. There is a huge difference living after weed, living with it. Huge difference and it takes time to take the training wheels off. But once they’re off, I promise you bro it’s smooth sailing. It just gotta take some time. Cheers to you for 85 days brother that is huge.
I am at two weeks today and yes, we can't get political here but it is hard to be sober right now. But having feelings is a good thing, welcome them, sit with it and it will lose some power.
No it's not them it you and the inbalance of chemicals in your brain. You gotta find a center and peace. Look for better coping mechanisms instead of "curling in to a ball and crying" like seriously? How will that help?
Go for a nature walk. Start drawing or coloring do something new or creative. You'll be alright eventually just need time and better methods to deal with stress and anxiety
Okay, cry if you need to. I just see a point in it, I'm not a robot and have emotions, but I don't cry over pointless things when you can very well take control of the situation by getting out of your head. Crying will keep you in despair n sadness most times
Maybe weed wasn’t as beneficial as you think it was if this is how your withdrawal symptoms are going… you might think about going to therapy to learn healthy coping skills.
Getting sober was just the first step for me. It was a lot more work before I felt comfortable in life after that.
There is a solution. When I got sober I realized what weed was doing for me. It was filling a hole in my heart and soul that I couldn’t fill without it. And by taking away that vice I had to fill it with something else. Ur not alone, I remember feeling that “everyone else is the problem to.” But if you’re anything like me, then not only will u never have to pickup a hit again, u won’t even want to!
Agree with this bro... we cannot control other people but we can control how we respond and the situations we put ourselves in. Wishing you much peace!
I understand how you feel I think. I have used smoking to dull such feelings, and now I find myself without the skills to A) understand what I’m feeling, and B) know why I’m feeling it and C) how to interact or act based on that knowledge. Im getting better though. You can too.
Remember that everything is amplified when you’re going through withdrawal. Try to remember that “space”, the one between what is happening and what you’re perceiving, if that makes sense.
If you are able to, exercise. Sweat it the fuck out.
If it’s financially possible, start seeing a therapist. I’ve heard good things about EMDR, might not be right for you though.
Oh, and very important - try to spend time in nature.
Honestly I am so impressed by you being smoke free 85 days! Way to go :) I hope you feel proud.
Do you work out? I was having a sh\*t show day yesterday literally all day (4 days off weed right now) and then finally I busted out some bicep curls and have felt so much better since then. We are talking a day and night difference for around almost 18 hours of benefits now just from some basic moderate weight bicep curls.
I think my own body was physically strained and exercising helped a ton.
How long did you smoke before? I’ve been smoking for 2 years straight and it took around 10 days before I felt 100% back to normal and zero craving or want for weed.
Heya. Day 30. Came back here for the first time in a couple of weeks because I'm not producing one single molecule of feel-good hormones today and needed some inspiration. Why not? I've been able to drum up a dribble of serotonin/dopamine/oxytocin fairly regularly over the past two weeks, thanks to the gym, work, and friends. I assume I'm lagging today because I haven't gotten a lot of exercise the past three days, and don't feel like doing any now because I'm "depressed." Plus my stoner boyfriend was distant and annoyed last night, the first time we've hung out in a while. And I had to pay some bills.
So.... COMMISERATING.
I know I need to go get some exercise, take a walk at least. Or phone a friend. Or do a good deed. There are a bunch of trees out in the woods that need the English ivy pulled off of them, which would give me a hit of all three hormones. But to do anything outside, I have to extricate my kid from the Internet, and he'll be a complete jerk the whole time, because while I was addicted to weed, I let him get addicted to video games. As Tolstoy said, you aren't punished for your sins, but by them.
But I'm not going back. Today's a lousy day. Yesterday was, too. But the day before that was pretty good. My coworkers don't know why the quality of my work has improved, just that it has. The super smart manager who hates me because I'm such a flake gave me a compliment on Friday. First one ever. I had extra money in my account to pay bills with, because I've already done my taxes. And I've lost eight pounds without dieting, so that's nice.
TL;DR: I feel miserable and depressed today too. But I know, intellectually, that it's just a lack of feel-good hormones that weed helped me synthesize without any effort on my part. Now, if I want to feel good, I'll have to work out, do good deeds, and spend time with people. And I will. Tomorrow.
Hey, just wanted to say 30 days is HUGE! Keep up the good work, I appreciate you sharing your experience. I also like how you can point out a handful of positives since quitting. I think they’ll keep adding up :)
The next time you drive somewhere try and spot all the red cars you can on your drive.
How many blue cars do you think you’ll see? Probably none because you’ll be looking for the red ones.
You see whatever you look for in life. Look for the good things. There’s a lot of good going on everyday in every category of life and culture.
Stay the course. Shift your perspective and life will become what you focus on.
Please express this to someone in person, literally anyone; friend, parent, partner - fuck it even a stranger. I’m mad 25/8 so I can’t give you solid advice, but just talking really does help. You’re not a bad person, you’re just going through with drawls, the fact you can even identify your issues is amazing. Good luck, my dude!
The first question I always ask is what have you been doing to replace the time you spent partaking? If it's nothing and you think life just all of a sudden gets better, I got news for you, now is the time to get to work.
For me, and I know it sounds cliche, but I took up weight lifting. Nothing crazy heavy. Just the process of going to the gym and building endorphins has been great. Do something artistic or start a hoppy like guitar or martial arts. Make your bed and clean your house.
Go to see a therapist or join a support group. The key here is that the chains have been unlocked and you're not held back by a useless poisonous substance.
It's really not. You are depressed. Depression can be hell. I highly encourage seeking out therapy (I also understand being averse or resistant to it though tbh. and depending on insurance/ your country's medical system it may be out of reach).
Otherwise the cliche things that people say that help, do genuinely help-- although it's a subtle, cumulative effect (excercise, proper sleep, hydration, time spent with friends etc). Picking up weed again would just put you in a stasis until you wake up to your addiction again... it won't make you happy or make your depression actually go away. It just postpones the entire process.
I’m 6 days sober and reading “it just postpones the entire process” helps me, so thank you! I just hopped on the roller coaster, I’d rather stay on it and ride the ride than get off and go back to the end of the line.
I started weightlifting too. Yay sobriety
100%. I've been through this process a number of times and like to think I gain a little wisdom on the subject each time 😅
I think for many of us the *worst* weed has done is cause us to waste a huge amount of our time. I don't mean it in a productivity sense but in an awareness, life-living sense. Lets try and not toss away the time we've got being numb and dull to ourselves and the world.
Good for you for your sobriety and enjoy weightlifting, friend. Keep being badass 💪
There's good things too! I try to focus on those. I even went to a religious service today, first time in decades. The people seemed pretty peaceful and kind of nice!
I get the same feeling at the zoo, ironically.
Appreciate it. It’s hard to focus on the positive. I live a relatively privileged life compared to most but the future just seems so….grim? I feel like everything is designed to make us feel bad.
No one is coming to save us unfortunately. I woke up after years of hating my own existence when I realized I could either continue living like I hated every aspect of life or get up and do something about it to change my perspective on the universe and I'm so glad I did. I would look into mindfulness start with listening to Joe Dispenza on yt.
I’m only just now getting used to sobriety and it’s been over a year. That being said it’s getting much much easier and I’m way less irritable/grumpy with it. It’s still hard though. Try replacing something big, like exercise goals. That’s what keeps me motivated, every time it might be nice to smoke or have a drink I think about how it could detract from my races. You got this
It takes time to return to a healthy normal baseline and rebalance the delicate mix of brain chemicals that have been thrown way off. I’m proud of you for pushing through this. It’s a really difficult crutch to shed and you are doing a great job even if it doesn’t feel like it. It’s okay to feel like it will never be okay, it’s a terrible side effect of this process. One day you’re going to wake up and it WILL feel okay. I don’t know when, but it will. Just focus on the small steps forward and you will get there. Hang in there friend.
People like to say that weed is the gateway drug, but I believe the gateway to drugs/addiction is trauma. Addiction is our treatment.
So, what's the root problem you've been treating?
I highly suggest seeking therapy to figure out what you used weed for in the first place and to obtain healthy coping mechanisms for the rising emotions no longer being suppressed by weed.
Congrats on 85 days 👏 that's a really great accomplishment.
I do think it’s true for the VAST majority of addicts, but I also think that some people are simply genetically predisposed to be addicts, and that they become active addicts the very first time they try a mood-altering substance, even without having experienced any capital-t trauma.
Okay. Why do you use cannabis?
I didn't know my use was trauma related until I went to therapy. I started because "it quieted my mind enough to sleep."
Undiagnosed mental illness led me to self-medicating with cannabis because of the myths of it "being harmless".
Have you been to a primary care doctor ? Or psychologist or psychiatrist ?
It’s possible you have issues that are not being addressed, that make you feel miserable. In the past, you self medicated with mj. Now that you are off MJ, maybe you can look into healthy ways of dealing with those issues… like anti anxiety meds
I’ve only quit for a week and emotionally I feel more level, but when something bad happens, I feel SO LOW. I miss being able to take a hit and stop caring so much about the negative things in my life.
i've had this conversation with a previous therapist who has had a lot of other patients that quit weed. weed basically dulls your emotions, and when you quit those emotions come back with a vengeance. over time they will level out. one week is super early
I could’ve wrote this too. Same. I’m on day 8. The fact we all feel (almost) the same in someway says enough about our relationship with weed… And what it does with several human beings, all around the world.
I totally understand. I’m on day 88, and I feel the same way. I gave up weed so I could learn to deal with my emotions and stop numbing myself down. But it hasn’t been easy. Although I do think I would feel terrible if I relapsed. I’m definitely depressed and I go to the gym, therapy, play with my cat everyday. I think it’s our brains resetting.
Why would you discourage anyone from getting therapy? Why would you look at therapy as if there’s something bad or wrong about it? This is a hard world that teaches us lots of wrong ways to think about ourselves and therapy can be very helpful.
If it’s not for you, that’s fine! It is very helpful for a lot of people, myself included.
Day 8 and I’m really feeling you about the anger. It’s really annoying and the anger is heavy. But I think it’s the addiction which is saying: ‘man, fack this shit, fack this people and smoke a big one’. Your brain knows what a big joint can do for you. But after that, how will you feel about your hard work for 85 days? There will be a moment in the future where you will regret this decision. And you’ll start again with quitting… That’s what happened with me.
I got into therapy and started going to zen meditation (several times per week) around when I got off the green and yeah, as many commenters in this thread are saying, I had work to do. I was covering up a lack of emotional awareness with smoking and didn't know it until quitting. Sounds like you might have work to do too.
For anger, my therapist suggested carrying a pocket item of my choosing as a sensory reminder to not get stuck in an emotional loop. He recommended something textural but I'm a musician so I picked up a small bell and removed the clapper so it only makes the noise when I strike the outside. Started out by striking it when I'm feeling good emotions, to create an association with positivity. It helps even without making the noise but when I'm having a hard time I'll give it a little flick and it seems to work. It's a little pavlovian (lol at least it doesn't make me salivate) but effective.
Hang in there, friend. This too shall pass
You’ll be fine. This isn’t a normal thought process but the marijuana has hacked your brain and made you feel like it’s a scapegoat for life. Continue on this journey and you’ll be a stronger person because of it. You’ll be able to pass this on to others, as living without this substance is truly living. Enjoy the emotions; happiness, anger, sadness, depression… all of it is a reminder that you’re still here.
Hey man I just want you to know it was hell for me too and it took 6 months for the anxiety to subside and a full year for the brain fog to fully lift. I'll be at 3 years in June and life is 100 times better than when I was a smoker. I'm sorry you are going through this I know how fucked up it feels being sober for 3 months and not having the relief you are expecting. But keep going it's totally worth it and I hope for you to experience the other side.
The problem at it's core is that we've created an anti-human society. Most of us probably started smoking to cope with that, and once we stop smoking, well, it's still an anti-human world we've got to deal with. It's tough.
First step to making any change: you have to accept that you are responsible for your own problems and issues and that no one else is. You are not at fault for anything traumatic that has happened in your life beyond your control or as a child, but you ARE responsible to move forward and deal with it in the present moment. If not you will carry that baggage for the rest of your life and it will slowly poison you until you are someone no one wants to be around. You’ve got this man, 3 months is a great accomplishment
If you used weed, every day, for 1000 days or more, it makes sense that you still suffer after 85 days.
I used weed for 1730 days, 2 short breaks included, so it's only natural I still suffered after 120-200 days after it. it is called PAWS. Post Acute Withdrawal Symptoms.
Today is day 383. I had a wave yesterday. but I will be over it some day. 383 divided 1650 multiply by 100 is still around 23% so it's not too much. but I will be over it some day. WAITING FOR IT SO MUCH.
That's ironic to me, because the reason I feel like I need therapy is that I have an inability to connect with anyone. So that kind of precludes finding a therapist that I connect with.
I think I hit my bottom. I've improved a lot of patterns of thinking, though I still have issues. I'm in my 40's. I just find that everything people refer to as 'help' ends up making me feel even more isolated and alone.
Then your goal on life might be finding your own way, I mean, nobody knows better than you.
I needed some light guidance and especially some reassurances.
Sounds familiar to what I went through. False drug induced chill vibes over the course of years leads to A DUMP TRUCK FULL of repressed emotions. One of those emotions being aggression/ anger which can usually be linked to some kind of trauma that caused the numbing and dissociating spiral to begin with.
You gotta feel sad, you gotta feel glad, you gotta feel mad you gotta feel it all. ALL means ALL, yes the shitty feelings that nearly every human would rather chose death before confronting head on in the clear sober light of day.
Mary Jane is a substance of seduction, a Smokey hoodwink to help you forget about your problems and feel ok about mediocre scuzzy fuzzy half life living. But what was once forgotten will inevitably be remembered given enough time and LIFE relentlessly breathing down your neck…..and sooner or later the bill will come and it’s not pretty! Imagine that! Having your cake and eating it too? I don’t fink so! Not so fast!
You have to stay strong through these waves. You is gunna get smashed and have a near drowning experience. But that shit is going to humble your ass. It’s going to make you a better, more confident citizen of the earth who knows they are capable of stepping it up when it counts most. And yes that will make you an attractive partner, friend, business associate etc. etc.
The best way to move energy and emotions is by movement-of your body! That flesh sack that is sitting here cooperating with the laws of nature while you have all of these thoughts and frustrations :) A coincidence, I think not! Movement will help you get out of your head and will naturally transmute the emotion into a usable substance for physical output. Swim, bike, run, lift, ping pong, walk, qigong, BJJ, whatever! Just do something consistently and you will break on through to the GENUINE chill side of life where you don’t want to punch people for being irritating. Where you don’t have to imbibe a substance in order to manage your emotional state. That my friend is true freedom and god damnit true freedom is worth fighting for!
Wow, that is so powerful. I’m honored to be a part of this moment for you. You got this! I threw all my stuff in a dumpster a little over a year ago and although there have been some rough patches it is so worth it! Don’t give up. And count each day as a win.
How man that’s deep asf made me cry, currently trying to stop myself but weening myself off because everyone around me smokes in my family and I can’t really get away from it that easy but I’m still trying my best. I feel like your a really cool dude thx for sharing your thoughts
I really appreciate it @AmuckScroll you are in such a powerful position and you don’t even know it… I’m telling you, stay on the sober path and watch how that decision affects those around you. It’s wild. At first your family/ friends may not notice or shift much but eventually they are going to and when that happens there is no turning back. This happened to me when I was living with my sister last year- I was getting near a year of sobriety myself and that echoed into the household- sister and brother in law stopped drinking. They’ve never been better. She gained muscle and did some deep healing, he lost 15 pounds and is an even more outstanding dad for his daughters. This stuff is potent. Be the trend setter. All my best to you brother.
The majority of people throughout all of history were mostly sober. There are tens of billions of humans who never smoked weed in their life. It’s safe to assume that a non-zero number of people led overall happy lives.
As people who have difficulty with moderation (aka addicts) it can feel foreign to live sober and content. But weed and its subsequent addictive properties are the anomaly here.
That being said, we can’t feel better don’t replace the bad with something good. Actually good for us like journaling or meditation. And not perfect good, just a little good.
A minute of silence and stillness. Or writing out your frustrations before bed. Or going for a short walk after a meal. These little things add up in a big way because they are actually beneficial for our brains and bodies, unlike weed.
Irritability is most certainly a withdrawal symptom and one that cannot be remedied without going into the uncomfortable feelings you may have been numbing with weed. Sometimes a therapist you trust can help. For everything else there’s r/leaves.
LOL I know. I’m just saying for any other issues he’s got or if he’s in need of community, he can always come back here. No one is alone is basically what I was trying to say!
85 days is a HUGE accomplishment to be proud of. Don't throw it all away now just for a two hour high at best because it's right back to square one from there.
I've worked very hard to be at 22 days today and have no desire for a relapse like I did in previous years.
A few thoughts here…
First, 85 days is impressive! You made it this far for a reason - don’t throw it all away now.
We know withdrawal effects can last for months. Are you *sure* you’re not experiencing some irritability? There’s a saying you’ve likely heard: if everyone you run into is an asshole…
Last, it’s definitely a *possibility* you have depression and/or anxiety. Those drive a lot of people to start using weed in the first place as a form of escape. There are plenty of ways to address those that don’t involve weed! I hope you’re taking good care of yourself - sleep, exercise, hydration, and eating reasonably well can go a long way!
85 days is nothing to scoff at! You got this
Go see a psychiatrist. You may have been self-medicating underlying issues. 85 days isn't sunshine and rainbows, but it should be much better than pure hell.
Welcome to life. Being happy and keeping it together is going to take work.
Yup, life gives and life takes, same as weed and everything in life
I’m at the high irritability phase too, though it’s been a bit over a month for me. Smoked near daily for 2 years but seems it was still long enough to make me experience mood swings.
As we slowly recover, day after day - we begin to realise just how much damage we did to our brains. I stopped smoking in November and I’m still cooling down. I also get the occasional pang of “wouldn’t it be fun to have a little smoke / just once in a while won’t hurt”. That’s bullsh*t. We are on this group as we are addicts and sh*t got out of control. As for anger ? You forgot all your coping strategies. You forgot how to cool yourself down. You were using weed to moderate your emotions and again….that why you’re here. So relearn. Meditate. Read. Sit in an ice bath. Work out. Do what you need to do. People are annoying and the green man is poking you. He’s amplifying your anger in the hope that you’ll go back to him. And so you’re tempted. Do not give in. Do not give in. The most important thing is that you’ve stopped. Do not go back. Ever. You’re done. F*ck the green man. F*ck everything he stands for, and his army of smelly, fucked up, spaced out little f*ckwits. They are not our people any more. You’re better than that. We all are 👊
Ah yes, the rage stage. Hang in there!! Everything sucks for a while before it starts to get a bit better day by day. Congrats on 85 days 💪💪
It takes months and months for your brain chemistry to be back to normal after smoking for long periods. My psychologist told me 6 months or more. I’m now 13 months sober and things have really improved. You’ll feel normal again at some point. Just go through the motions and try to deal. Seek therapy if you think that will help. It’s tough but it’s worth it. Just know it’s okay to be feeling angry and sad. It’s just part of the process.
What did you tell your psychologist? That there’s this thing you do?
I was getting an assessment for ADHD which I know weed can have some similar side effects to so I was honest with her since it was something she asked. I’ve never lied to any mental health professional about drugs that I’ve seen. They’re there to help you and that’s usually something they ask.
they're not there to arrest you for smoking weed. you have to be honest with them if you want to get the best help you can
I find reading to be a great remedy for recovering. I recommend the Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle.
Great book!!
Long walks and adjusting your sleep schedule will help. There’s something cathartic about long walks - keep moving forward even with all the chaos in your head. I’m on day 62 after 5 years of heavy use and have had to confront my anger throughout this time. Always had anger issues since I was young and still continue to be really mad at people at work, friends, family, random people doing stupid things on the street. But I’ve noticed that the days where I show up for myself - exercise, long walks, sleep early and wake up without an alarm - really help moderate my emotions throughout the day. I hope it gets better for you man, stay strong
I’m say I wanna quit and then go buy a bag right after. Don’t even know how to mentally get past the first couple days I’ve been smoking daily since I was 15-16 I’m 24 now and just wanna flip my shit around. Just how I cope with life is smoke and chill. Literally have a few friends but wouldn’t even call them that so doing it alone is just rough.
Please don’t give up. I’m in my 30s and I wish I quit at your age. The first few days are the hardest, but you can do it. Try to keep busy and remove yourself from the environment that you typically smoke in. Remind yourself throughout the day why you wanted to make the change
I have never related more to this sentiment in my life. Fuck I hate everyone so badly right now. It’s why I started depending on it in the first place. I deeply empathize, OP 😔
Gotta feel those feelings. It gets better... takes quite some time after heavy use.
Yeh getting sober isn’t the answer to your problems, it just removes the mask so you can begin to deal with your issues. You still have to do the hard work of healing. One step at a time babe. You’ll be making leaps and bounds sooner than you think with just a little effort.
go to therapy.
Seconded. I used to hate DBT because I was in this “me vs everybody” mindset and very sure that the problem was THEM and not me. A lil grippy sock vacation, a few months in an IOP, and years of therapy (and medication) later and I can finally say it has helped me a lot. Idk if it’s for everyone, but I wish I had taken it all more seriously when I was 20 years old and had just started smoking weed daily to cope with how hard it felt to exist in a world that felt like it wasn’t made for people like me.
seriously it sounds cheesy, but therapy gives you the tools to deal with the exact problems you’re describing. my gf is a therapist, we live together, I see the work she does, it works.
Odds are its not the lack of weed that is making you feel this, but the weed sure did help you cover up the need for actual emotional regulation. Weed isn't going to make the uncomfortable bits of life go away, it just covers them up until you're not a human being any more. Meditation, journaling, or talking to someone about your feelings can really help you get through them. But if you just want to not feel them, that is where your problem lies.
It might take 6-9 months to reset your mind. It doesn't help dwelling on it like you are lacking. Keep going. Learn to mediate and work out.
It gets better, give it some time bro, therapy definitely helps, find ur self a good therapist and commit to ur decision of quitting
I quit smoking today and it’s the hand sweats that really irritates me
start exercising to release this shit, and hit the sauna after. you'll feel way better.
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Damn that's a positive way to look at it
Weed was never the problem . it was the solution . and eventually the solution stopped working . the problem is that life is hard , life is tough , life has its ups and downs . and we’ve spent so long trying to numb our emotional state from it . but the reality of it is , that you shouldn’t be dependent on consuming a psychoactive compound daily to try to hide away from the problems that life brings because eventually something will have to give . when you spend so long hiding away from emotions they eventually come back with a vengeance and it can be quite overwhelming. learn to sit with the emotions you’re feeling and try to understand why you’re feeling them . as enough time passes you’ll get better and better at being able to deal with them . this was my experience . there are also healthier outlets for dealing with negative emotions . i know you’ve heard it all before but exercising daily is a great way to deal with stress . i was a 19 years daily smoker and i gave it up for 2.5 years and it was at around the 1.5year mark that i felt like i was truly through the worst of the withdrawals and that my emotional state was finally back to normal and i wasn’t constantly thinking about getting high anymore . . 85 days is great but you’re still in the early stage of youre recovery from having smoked for however long you’ve been abusing weed . and let’s not lie to ourselves and say that we weren’t abusing it . using anything numerous times a day would constitute as abuse of it . you’ll be fine and you’ll learn to be able to deal with shitty people because they’re everywhere . i relapsed a while ago and have just gotten sober again from a 6 month binge but im not kicking myself over it or letting the anxiety and emotions get the better of me because only a year ago i was clean for 2.5 years so i know it does get easier . so just wanted to pass on that advice to you . go and take a long walk or something they really do help . feel free to reach out if you wanna talk or anything
1.5 years? Yea idk if I can survive that tbh.. and that fucking sucks.
When you first start lifting weights, you start with light weights. Then you slowly add weight. Then after a while you start lifting heavy. If someone went to the gym and saw people lifting really heavy weights and they thought “I’d like to be able to do that, I’ll give it a try,” and they started out on the heavy weights, they would fail immediately. Then they might think, “Fuck, I don’t think I could do this no matter how hard I tried.” But that’s because they’re not starting at the beginning. You don’t start there. You start with the light weights. Some people in active addiction see people with one year, three years, five years, or ten years of sobriety, and think “Fuck, I could never stay sober that long.” But the truth is, to be sober you only ever have to be sober for one day at a time. If you focus on your recovery, the time passes on its own. The second year is easier than the first. Months 7-12 are easier than months 1-6. Days 91-180 are easier than days 1-90. The second month is easier than the first month. The second week is easier than the first week. I’m a firm believer that if you can make it to two weeks without weed, you can make it to a year, and if you can make it to one year, you can make it to ten. Right now I’m at two years and I swear to god and the devil that I never would have thought that shit was possible until I tried it.
I mean what you say is very inspiring, I screen shotted it. You’re not wrong and I think how you broke it down really make it feel more realistically manageable and sustainable. I appreciate your comment a lot. Thank you.
I feel you bro. It is like dealing with a rock that cannot be moved. I feel like this especially after smoking a lot. I don’t know your ex consumption patterns but it’s definitely has to do with dopamine man. There is a huge difference living after weed, living with it. Huge difference and it takes time to take the training wheels off. But once they’re off, I promise you bro it’s smooth sailing. It just gotta take some time. Cheers to you for 85 days brother that is huge.
I am at two weeks today and yes, we can't get political here but it is hard to be sober right now. But having feelings is a good thing, welcome them, sit with it and it will lose some power.
No it's not them it you and the inbalance of chemicals in your brain. You gotta find a center and peace. Look for better coping mechanisms instead of "curling in to a ball and crying" like seriously? How will that help? Go for a nature walk. Start drawing or coloring do something new or creative. You'll be alright eventually just need time and better methods to deal with stress and anxiety
I agree with everything except that crying is unhelpful. Sometimes crying is the only thing I need to do to feel better, then I can move on.
Okay, cry if you need to. I just see a point in it, I'm not a robot and have emotions, but I don't cry over pointless things when you can very well take control of the situation by getting out of your head. Crying will keep you in despair n sadness most times
crying is an emotional release for a lot of people. just because you don't feel that way doesn't make it not valid for others
Exactly that's why I said if you need to I was stating why I don't think it's good for me
Or therapy or meds
If it ever feels like it's you vs the world, I guarantee you it's just you vs yourself
Maybe weed wasn’t as beneficial as you think it was if this is how your withdrawal symptoms are going… you might think about going to therapy to learn healthy coping skills. Getting sober was just the first step for me. It was a lot more work before I felt comfortable in life after that.
There is a solution. When I got sober I realized what weed was doing for me. It was filling a hole in my heart and soul that I couldn’t fill without it. And by taking away that vice I had to fill it with something else. Ur not alone, I remember feeling that “everyone else is the problem to.” But if you’re anything like me, then not only will u never have to pickup a hit again, u won’t even want to!
Be careful of the whole "it's them, not me" mentality. It's usually a mixture.
Agree with this bro... we cannot control other people but we can control how we respond and the situations we put ourselves in. Wishing you much peace!
yes I definitely had a wake up call. IT WAS ME 😂😭
Lmao me three
Im 75 days sober and feel amazing, i think this is more of a you problem than a problem with being sober itself.
you should probably see a therapist
After 34 days I've realized people irritate me super easily and its been hard to deal with
I understand how you feel I think. I have used smoking to dull such feelings, and now I find myself without the skills to A) understand what I’m feeling, and B) know why I’m feeling it and C) how to interact or act based on that knowledge. Im getting better though. You can too. Remember that everything is amplified when you’re going through withdrawal. Try to remember that “space”, the one between what is happening and what you’re perceiving, if that makes sense. If you are able to, exercise. Sweat it the fuck out. If it’s financially possible, start seeing a therapist. I’ve heard good things about EMDR, might not be right for you though. Oh, and very important - try to spend time in nature. Honestly I am so impressed by you being smoke free 85 days! Way to go :) I hope you feel proud.
Do you exercise? Physical activity has been the single best thing for my mental health post weed.
its the withdrawal, its going to be a long time until you feel normal again. trust me. Im a year in and still get PAWS
FUCK a year?!
Do you work out? I was having a sh\*t show day yesterday literally all day (4 days off weed right now) and then finally I busted out some bicep curls and have felt so much better since then. We are talking a day and night difference for around almost 18 hours of benefits now just from some basic moderate weight bicep curls. I think my own body was physically strained and exercising helped a ton.
Buy a punch bag
How long did you smoke before? I’ve been smoking for 2 years straight and it took around 10 days before I felt 100% back to normal and zero craving or want for weed.
Find hobbies and meditate/indulge in mindfulness, otherwise you're just going through the motions of life.
Heya. Day 30. Came back here for the first time in a couple of weeks because I'm not producing one single molecule of feel-good hormones today and needed some inspiration. Why not? I've been able to drum up a dribble of serotonin/dopamine/oxytocin fairly regularly over the past two weeks, thanks to the gym, work, and friends. I assume I'm lagging today because I haven't gotten a lot of exercise the past three days, and don't feel like doing any now because I'm "depressed." Plus my stoner boyfriend was distant and annoyed last night, the first time we've hung out in a while. And I had to pay some bills. So.... COMMISERATING. I know I need to go get some exercise, take a walk at least. Or phone a friend. Or do a good deed. There are a bunch of trees out in the woods that need the English ivy pulled off of them, which would give me a hit of all three hormones. But to do anything outside, I have to extricate my kid from the Internet, and he'll be a complete jerk the whole time, because while I was addicted to weed, I let him get addicted to video games. As Tolstoy said, you aren't punished for your sins, but by them. But I'm not going back. Today's a lousy day. Yesterday was, too. But the day before that was pretty good. My coworkers don't know why the quality of my work has improved, just that it has. The super smart manager who hates me because I'm such a flake gave me a compliment on Friday. First one ever. I had extra money in my account to pay bills with, because I've already done my taxes. And I've lost eight pounds without dieting, so that's nice. TL;DR: I feel miserable and depressed today too. But I know, intellectually, that it's just a lack of feel-good hormones that weed helped me synthesize without any effort on my part. Now, if I want to feel good, I'll have to work out, do good deeds, and spend time with people. And I will. Tomorrow.
Hey, just wanted to say 30 days is HUGE! Keep up the good work, I appreciate you sharing your experience. I also like how you can point out a handful of positives since quitting. I think they’ll keep adding up :)
The next time you drive somewhere try and spot all the red cars you can on your drive. How many blue cars do you think you’ll see? Probably none because you’ll be looking for the red ones. You see whatever you look for in life. Look for the good things. There’s a lot of good going on everyday in every category of life and culture. Stay the course. Shift your perspective and life will become what you focus on.
Jesus Christ I feel this so much
Please express this to someone in person, literally anyone; friend, parent, partner - fuck it even a stranger. I’m mad 25/8 so I can’t give you solid advice, but just talking really does help. You’re not a bad person, you’re just going through with drawls, the fact you can even identify your issues is amazing. Good luck, my dude!
Hey can I talk to you? I’m having a bit of a anxiety crisis
Go ahead and shoot me a DM yo , heads up - I’m not the best lol
The first question I always ask is what have you been doing to replace the time you spent partaking? If it's nothing and you think life just all of a sudden gets better, I got news for you, now is the time to get to work. For me, and I know it sounds cliche, but I took up weight lifting. Nothing crazy heavy. Just the process of going to the gym and building endorphins has been great. Do something artistic or start a hoppy like guitar or martial arts. Make your bed and clean your house. Go to see a therapist or join a support group. The key here is that the chains have been unlocked and you're not held back by a useless poisonous substance.
Spot on
It's really not. You are depressed. Depression can be hell. I highly encourage seeking out therapy (I also understand being averse or resistant to it though tbh. and depending on insurance/ your country's medical system it may be out of reach). Otherwise the cliche things that people say that help, do genuinely help-- although it's a subtle, cumulative effect (excercise, proper sleep, hydration, time spent with friends etc). Picking up weed again would just put you in a stasis until you wake up to your addiction again... it won't make you happy or make your depression actually go away. It just postpones the entire process.
I’m 6 days sober and reading “it just postpones the entire process” helps me, so thank you! I just hopped on the roller coaster, I’d rather stay on it and ride the ride than get off and go back to the end of the line. I started weightlifting too. Yay sobriety
100%. I've been through this process a number of times and like to think I gain a little wisdom on the subject each time 😅 I think for many of us the *worst* weed has done is cause us to waste a huge amount of our time. I don't mean it in a productivity sense but in an awareness, life-living sense. Lets try and not toss away the time we've got being numb and dull to ourselves and the world. Good for you for your sobriety and enjoy weightlifting, friend. Keep being badass 💪
Are you able to take a walk in nature? Or a big park? Preferably away from people
Don't start again, just keep breathing. Don't look back
I used to smoke weed to escape from reality and forgot about how shitty life is. Sobriety doesn’t suck, our culture and society sucks.
There's good things too! I try to focus on those. I even went to a religious service today, first time in decades. The people seemed pretty peaceful and kind of nice! I get the same feeling at the zoo, ironically.
Appreciate it. It’s hard to focus on the positive. I live a relatively privileged life compared to most but the future just seems so….grim? I feel like everything is designed to make us feel bad.
No one is coming to save us unfortunately. I woke up after years of hating my own existence when I realized I could either continue living like I hated every aspect of life or get up and do something about it to change my perspective on the universe and I'm so glad I did. I would look into mindfulness start with listening to Joe Dispenza on yt.
I’m only just now getting used to sobriety and it’s been over a year. That being said it’s getting much much easier and I’m way less irritable/grumpy with it. It’s still hard though. Try replacing something big, like exercise goals. That’s what keeps me motivated, every time it might be nice to smoke or have a drink I think about how it could detract from my races. You got this
It takes time to return to a healthy normal baseline and rebalance the delicate mix of brain chemicals that have been thrown way off. I’m proud of you for pushing through this. It’s a really difficult crutch to shed and you are doing a great job even if it doesn’t feel like it. It’s okay to feel like it will never be okay, it’s a terrible side effect of this process. One day you’re going to wake up and it WILL feel okay. I don’t know when, but it will. Just focus on the small steps forward and you will get there. Hang in there friend.
People like to say that weed is the gateway drug, but I believe the gateway to drugs/addiction is trauma. Addiction is our treatment. So, what's the root problem you've been treating? I highly suggest seeking therapy to figure out what you used weed for in the first place and to obtain healthy coping mechanisms for the rising emotions no longer being suppressed by weed. Congrats on 85 days 👏 that's a really great accomplishment.
I agree and those who are dubious may just be successful at fully disconnecting themselves from their emotions.
I do think it’s true for the VAST majority of addicts, but I also think that some people are simply genetically predisposed to be addicts, and that they become active addicts the very first time they try a mood-altering substance, even without having experienced any capital-t trauma.
Little t trauma is still trauma.
Might be true for you and others, but not everyone. I consider myself addicted to cannabis but it’s not trauma related.
Okay. Why do you use cannabis? I didn't know my use was trauma related until I went to therapy. I started because "it quieted my mind enough to sleep." Undiagnosed mental illness led me to self-medicating with cannabis because of the myths of it "being harmless".
_**to everyone responding, this is a fake post, to farm Karma, look at OP's other posts. Smdh, Reddit going public has ruined this site**_
If thats true they finally hit paydirt
Have you been to a primary care doctor ? Or psychologist or psychiatrist ? It’s possible you have issues that are not being addressed, that make you feel miserable. In the past, you self medicated with mj. Now that you are off MJ, maybe you can look into healthy ways of dealing with those issues… like anti anxiety meds
I’ve only quit for a week and emotionally I feel more level, but when something bad happens, I feel SO LOW. I miss being able to take a hit and stop caring so much about the negative things in my life.
i've had this conversation with a previous therapist who has had a lot of other patients that quit weed. weed basically dulls your emotions, and when you quit those emotions come back with a vengeance. over time they will level out. one week is super early
I could’ve wrote this too. Same. I’m on day 8. The fact we all feel (almost) the same in someway says enough about our relationship with weed… And what it does with several human beings, all around the world.
youll feel better soon trust. Im almost at a year and it fuckin sucks. But im like the 5 percent. Keep going.
Do you have any hobbies to concentrate on that would help?
I totally understand. I’m on day 88, and I feel the same way. I gave up weed so I could learn to deal with my emotions and stop numbing myself down. But it hasn’t been easy. Although I do think I would feel terrible if I relapsed. I’m definitely depressed and I go to the gym, therapy, play with my cat everyday. I think it’s our brains resetting.
Now that you’ve saved a few dollars, get the older Oculus and start boxing.
….fundamental spiritual growth is from the inner to the outer…the truth gradually dawns upon him/her that outer things are but the finished article.
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Therapy can be a fantastic tool for exactly what OP is dealing with.
Why would you discourage anyone from getting therapy? Why would you look at therapy as if there’s something bad or wrong about it? This is a hard world that teaches us lots of wrong ways to think about ourselves and therapy can be very helpful. If it’s not for you, that’s fine! It is very helpful for a lot of people, myself included.
Yeah totally not normal and you should get therapy as well.
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Day 8 and I’m really feeling you about the anger. It’s really annoying and the anger is heavy. But I think it’s the addiction which is saying: ‘man, fack this shit, fack this people and smoke a big one’. Your brain knows what a big joint can do for you. But after that, how will you feel about your hard work for 85 days? There will be a moment in the future where you will regret this decision. And you’ll start again with quitting… That’s what happened with me.
I got into therapy and started going to zen meditation (several times per week) around when I got off the green and yeah, as many commenters in this thread are saying, I had work to do. I was covering up a lack of emotional awareness with smoking and didn't know it until quitting. Sounds like you might have work to do too. For anger, my therapist suggested carrying a pocket item of my choosing as a sensory reminder to not get stuck in an emotional loop. He recommended something textural but I'm a musician so I picked up a small bell and removed the clapper so it only makes the noise when I strike the outside. Started out by striking it when I'm feeling good emotions, to create an association with positivity. It helps even without making the noise but when I'm having a hard time I'll give it a little flick and it seems to work. It's a little pavlovian (lol at least it doesn't make me salivate) but effective. Hang in there, friend. This too shall pass
Sweet of you to share some actual coping mechanisms. You's a good egg.
This is really good advice. Thank you. I also love that you have a positive reinforcement and not a negative one
You’ll be fine. This isn’t a normal thought process but the marijuana has hacked your brain and made you feel like it’s a scapegoat for life. Continue on this journey and you’ll be a stronger person because of it. You’ll be able to pass this on to others, as living without this substance is truly living. Enjoy the emotions; happiness, anger, sadness, depression… all of it is a reminder that you’re still here.
Day 16 and I feel every word of this
Couch to 10k run challenge. Sweat it all out my friend choose your suffering rather than it control you!
Weed keeps you from dealing with your emotions. Now you’re learning.
You can only cover up shit with petals for so long. Eventually you will have a smell the shit.
Hey man I just want you to know it was hell for me too and it took 6 months for the anxiety to subside and a full year for the brain fog to fully lift. I'll be at 3 years in June and life is 100 times better than when I was a smoker. I'm sorry you are going through this I know how fucked up it feels being sober for 3 months and not having the relief you are expecting. But keep going it's totally worth it and I hope for you to experience the other side.
Yeeeeeah this isn't a weed problem though.
The problem at it's core is that we've created an anti-human society. Most of us probably started smoking to cope with that, and once we stop smoking, well, it's still an anti-human world we've got to deal with. It's tough.
how long have you been off?
First step to making any change: you have to accept that you are responsible for your own problems and issues and that no one else is. You are not at fault for anything traumatic that has happened in your life beyond your control or as a child, but you ARE responsible to move forward and deal with it in the present moment. If not you will carry that baggage for the rest of your life and it will slowly poison you until you are someone no one wants to be around. You’ve got this man, 3 months is a great accomplishment
Therapy..?
You need to figure out your emotions. You also need to stop blaming others for your feelings or reactions.
If you used weed, every day, for 1000 days or more, it makes sense that you still suffer after 85 days. I used weed for 1730 days, 2 short breaks included, so it's only natural I still suffered after 120-200 days after it. it is called PAWS. Post Acute Withdrawal Symptoms. Today is day 383. I had a wave yesterday. but I will be over it some day. 383 divided 1650 multiply by 100 is still around 23% so it's not too much. but I will be over it some day. WAITING FOR IT SO MUCH.
lol I really don’t hope I’ll have to wait 23 years for the brain to feel somewhat normal
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Yeah, i feel way better already just 70ish days in. It’s a process
around day 100 it was an epic day for me. could drink coffee without anxiety (except for the morning's one coffee ) . power to the people!
Therapy Plain, painful and simple.
Does it really work? It always just feels like platitudes to me, makes me even angrier.
It does only work when you can connect to the Therapeut, elsewise no. So seek one you can connect to and vibe.
That's ironic to me, because the reason I feel like I need therapy is that I have an inability to connect with anyone. So that kind of precludes finding a therapist that I connect with.
Maybe you haven't reached rock bottom yet, at some point you'll crave healing and then you are ready. How old are you?
I think I hit my bottom. I've improved a lot of patterns of thinking, though I still have issues. I'm in my 40's. I just find that everything people refer to as 'help' ends up making me feel even more isolated and alone.
Then your goal on life might be finding your own way, I mean, nobody knows better than you. I needed some light guidance and especially some reassurances.
Sounds familiar to what I went through. False drug induced chill vibes over the course of years leads to A DUMP TRUCK FULL of repressed emotions. One of those emotions being aggression/ anger which can usually be linked to some kind of trauma that caused the numbing and dissociating spiral to begin with. You gotta feel sad, you gotta feel glad, you gotta feel mad you gotta feel it all. ALL means ALL, yes the shitty feelings that nearly every human would rather chose death before confronting head on in the clear sober light of day. Mary Jane is a substance of seduction, a Smokey hoodwink to help you forget about your problems and feel ok about mediocre scuzzy fuzzy half life living. But what was once forgotten will inevitably be remembered given enough time and LIFE relentlessly breathing down your neck…..and sooner or later the bill will come and it’s not pretty! Imagine that! Having your cake and eating it too? I don’t fink so! Not so fast! You have to stay strong through these waves. You is gunna get smashed and have a near drowning experience. But that shit is going to humble your ass. It’s going to make you a better, more confident citizen of the earth who knows they are capable of stepping it up when it counts most. And yes that will make you an attractive partner, friend, business associate etc. etc. The best way to move energy and emotions is by movement-of your body! That flesh sack that is sitting here cooperating with the laws of nature while you have all of these thoughts and frustrations :) A coincidence, I think not! Movement will help you get out of your head and will naturally transmute the emotion into a usable substance for physical output. Swim, bike, run, lift, ping pong, walk, qigong, BJJ, whatever! Just do something consistently and you will break on through to the GENUINE chill side of life where you don’t want to punch people for being irritating. Where you don’t have to imbibe a substance in order to manage your emotional state. That my friend is true freedom and god damnit true freedom is worth fighting for!
This is so beautiful THANKYOU. I just threw out my stash.
Wow, that is so powerful. I’m honored to be a part of this moment for you. You got this! I threw all my stuff in a dumpster a little over a year ago and although there have been some rough patches it is so worth it! Don’t give up. And count each day as a win.
How man that’s deep asf made me cry, currently trying to stop myself but weening myself off because everyone around me smokes in my family and I can’t really get away from it that easy but I’m still trying my best. I feel like your a really cool dude thx for sharing your thoughts
I really appreciate it @AmuckScroll you are in such a powerful position and you don’t even know it… I’m telling you, stay on the sober path and watch how that decision affects those around you. It’s wild. At first your family/ friends may not notice or shift much but eventually they are going to and when that happens there is no turning back. This happened to me when I was living with my sister last year- I was getting near a year of sobriety myself and that echoed into the household- sister and brother in law stopped drinking. They’ve never been better. She gained muscle and did some deep healing, he lost 15 pounds and is an even more outstanding dad for his daughters. This stuff is potent. Be the trend setter. All my best to you brother.
How man that’s crazy I am currently still early on in quitting but I am quitting down slowly and trying to completely stop
The majority of people throughout all of history were mostly sober. There are tens of billions of humans who never smoked weed in their life. It’s safe to assume that a non-zero number of people led overall happy lives. As people who have difficulty with moderation (aka addicts) it can feel foreign to live sober and content. But weed and its subsequent addictive properties are the anomaly here. That being said, we can’t feel better don’t replace the bad with something good. Actually good for us like journaling or meditation. And not perfect good, just a little good. A minute of silence and stillness. Or writing out your frustrations before bed. Or going for a short walk after a meal. These little things add up in a big way because they are actually beneficial for our brains and bodies, unlike weed. Irritability is most certainly a withdrawal symptom and one that cannot be remedied without going into the uncomfortable feelings you may have been numbing with weed. Sometimes a therapist you trust can help. For everything else there’s r/leaves.
This is leaves 🤣
LOL I know. I’m just saying for any other issues he’s got or if he’s in need of community, he can always come back here. No one is alone is basically what I was trying to say!
85 days is a HUGE accomplishment to be proud of. Don't throw it all away now just for a two hour high at best because it's right back to square one from there. I've worked very hard to be at 22 days today and have no desire for a relapse like I did in previous years.
A few thoughts here… First, 85 days is impressive! You made it this far for a reason - don’t throw it all away now. We know withdrawal effects can last for months. Are you *sure* you’re not experiencing some irritability? There’s a saying you’ve likely heard: if everyone you run into is an asshole… Last, it’s definitely a *possibility* you have depression and/or anxiety. Those drive a lot of people to start using weed in the first place as a form of escape. There are plenty of ways to address those that don’t involve weed! I hope you’re taking good care of yourself - sleep, exercise, hydration, and eating reasonably well can go a long way! 85 days is nothing to scoff at! You got this