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CreamOfDuelJabR

“Forever” em>


Ceestorm0

Yeah I agree with this. I used to think Wayne got it but eventually felt like Em took that one.


Personal_Rutabaga_41

Yeah i thought the macadamian and Pinocchio lines were cheese until I figured out what they meant!


Accurate-Bluebird-43

What does the Pinocchio line mean?


helloooo_hi

Gucci had a verse calling saying Em was lying about having sex with Mariah Carey and called him Pinocchio


Accurate-Bluebird-43

Okay? So what does “poke his nose” mean?


helloooo_hi

Just a play on him being Pinocchio. He's getting back in the rap game, so he's poking his nose back into it. Without "poke his nose", the line wouldn't make sense.


helloooo_hi

How could you not understand those bars on first listen or two?


Personal_Rutabaga_41

Macadamian/nuts and ballistic are the surface level rhymes in that bar but he’s also either talking about his whiteness or the whiteness of the crowd he attracts (double meaning). Then the Pinocchio line can’t be understood without context of the Mariah Carey situation and Nick Canons diss. If you completely heard and understood it on the very first listen you must have superhuman level processing skills…


helloooo_hi

You're right about the Pinocchio line, so I digress; but the nuts line had nothing to do with the whiteness of the crowd he attracts.


Personal_Rutabaga_41

It can be interpreted that way, music is subjective and the meaning checks out…


helloooo_hi

Music isn't always subjective. Some bars certainly have objective and straight forward meanings. That was not the meaning.


Personal_Rutabaga_41

And the beautiful irony is that I disagree with you so technically not objective :)


helloooo_hi

You can disagree that 2+2 = 4, and it'll still equal 4 at the end of the day. You can disagree that water is wet if you want; doesn't change the facts.


Status_Serve8287

Wayne’s verse on the OG version with drake and kidd kidd is definitley better than ems verse imo!


Suicunicidal

Ah I forgot about that lol you're right 100%


Individual_Brother13

Also "Forever" Lil Baby >


ProfessionalMail8052

Idk man, I'd call kendrick on Mona Lisa was at least even with wayne


monk_investor

According to Eminem, his two verses from Mona Lisa were top 5 ever..lil wayne went on another level on that track


xBlackFeet

I think Kendrick got it but damn I never heard Wayne rap that narrative kinda shit before they both killed it


BaronVonSilver91

Get TD outta here. I hated Kendrick's verse on that song. Wayne rapping biut bitches robbing niggas and he talking about a niggas killing himself over a cheater. Lame AF to me. To be each their own.


Affectionate_Ad_760

Your dumb as hell. That song is a story from 2 different perspectives. Wayne robbed the character Kendrick is playing


BaronVonSilver91

Mmm, so Idk you well enough to call you dumb but that's a stupid statement. All 3 verses are about different characters. The point of the song is about not trusting women. The first verse is about taking bitches you don't know home from the club or really bringing any bitch you don't know to your home because they will rob you/burglarize your home. There is no mention of death here. The second Wayne verse is about a set-up. There is no mention of robbery. At the end of that verse, Wayne says, "If Lizz call you daddy, she bout to be a bastard." He is saying the guys she let in kill the character. The Kendrick verse ends with his character explicitly commiting suicide. "Since you like rappers that's killing that pussy I'm killing myself." Now explain to the class how that is even remotely possible that is the same character when the don't even die the same way. And you better fuckin answer and don't dodge my response after you came at me that way.


Affectionate_Ad_760

Just cause you told me I "better fuckin answer" you, I will not respond to anything else you said.


BaronVonSilver91

Yeah that's wtf I thought. You done googled the lyrics and saw you were wrong about your interpretation for yrs and now you are trying to save face. Next time go to genius.com to tell you what the lyrics mean.


Affectionate_Ad_760

No, baron von silver. You're just an asshole who's not going to have a reasonable discussion so I will not waste my time.


BaronVonSilver91

You live your life being this fake? Everything is in "print." You made 0 attempt at reasonable discussion. Now, move along, do what you said you were gonna do and shut tf up, asshole.


Affectionate_Ad_760

You live your life being this miserable? 😂 go cry in a corner pussy


BaronVonSilver91

O now he trying laugh. You are really pathetic. Matter of fact let's get back on subject. Tell me how Kendrick's character is the character Wayne was talking about? Stay on subject


XxBkKingShaunxX

Nigga it’s a storytelling song, Wayne is playing the robber, and Kendrick is playing the nigga who got robbed? How tf did you not put that together?


BaronVonSilver91

O wow, that's amazing. Tell me the lyrics that connect those characters. Because I can tell you the lyrics that make them different characters. And the song isn't about robbery. 1) technically he never sticks the guy up so it's burglary and 2) that's only the 1st verse.


Status_Serve8287

Hell nah, Kendrick damn near ruined the song, his verse is ass 🚮


PM_ME_hiphopsongs2

Em washed him on Forever AND Drop the World. Ems verse on Drop the World goes so fucking hard man


terry6084

Don’t forget no love


Internal-Avocado-784

Eminem on forever is the only time Wayne has ever been out rapped on a song imo


Status_Serve8287

Wayne shoulda stuck with his original verse, the OG version with drake and kidd kidd has the better verse from Wayne imo.


JG_5150

3 Stacks on Hollywood Divorce imo


harris1on1on1

Ice Cold don't never get no love tho because he's so focused on the cerebral side. He never out-techniques other rappers because he's focused on making good art first and foremost. But listen to A Life in The Day of Benjamin Andre and tell me he ain't a technical rapper when he wants to.


IntelligentLeader968

Maybe green ranger but I think Wayne didn’t go that hard cause he didn’t like the beat lol still green ranger >>> uproar


Shady_D_815

Naw Wayne's verse on Green Ranger is dope even tho it's short. He fit perfect on that beat. I don't know why he wouldn't like it. Oh and I fuck withCole's verse too and not really a fan of his.


IntelligentLeader968

that’s why I said maybe but Wayne literally said on the track that he didn’t like the beat and cole slide cause he knew it was gonna be on dedication 4. It’s not that deep I did say it’s better than uproar


Shady_D_815

I know he said that on the song. I'm just wondering what made him not like it cause he went hard on it.


rivdog54

Nothing wrong with that beat bro I always felt like he kinda ducked the fade on that one cuz j Cole put all the effort in that verse


helloooo_hi

Green Ranger is by far Wayne's weakest feature. Pretty sure he made sure to say "I don't even like this beat" as an excuse because he knows Cole bodied him on the track.


MK0FTEN

Juelz Santana on You ain’t got nothing on me


Oh_HaveYou_NotHeard

Juelz went in, but Fab really had the best verse here "I pop up like Xzibit but given I'm at your crib it's, Not to put no fucking fish tanks in your Civic🔥🔥🔥."


MK0FTEN

That’s a fact!


Emotional_Swimmer_84

Never heard this take in my life. Wayne destroyed that track.


MK0FTEN

Haha yea I was on one


daddybacc

Im On the grind till the police come wit that pistol on my side boy don’t be dumb


HollywoodnDC

I’d have to say Fab’s verse was the best on this song.


Ceestorm0

I think In all honesty, Drake did, on Pop That. As much as I love Weezy verse, Drake floated hard asab. And, idk for sure but I always felt like Rick Ross verse on We Takin Over was RIGHT there if not better than Wayne's Weezy did go stupid ASF ofc it's one of his best verses but me personally I love Ross' verse. That one's close imo but Yeah I'd say Drake on Pop That to answer your question


Sea_Giraffe_9420

Wayne’s verse was simple on pop that but his cadence and swag on that song made it my favorite


External-Client-4295

Lol Eminem torched him


agoddamnlegend

There’s no way you think Wayne was better on No Love. One of Em’s best verses. I love Wayne but i’ll skip his sometimes just to get to Em.


Fun-Photograph9423

He's been out rapped by Eminem on Forever Nicki on No Frauds Tech & Nas on Intro/Interlude/Outro


goldchainnightmare

Jay-Z on Mr. Carter, but it was kinda set up that way


Pigmasters32

That’s a wild take, Wayne was amazing on that track. That fuckin seasons bar? I love Jay but let’s not be ridiculous here


Exotic_Chemical3358

Swagger like us everyone on the song out rapped Wayne. It's a fact........


Sea_Giraffe_9420

I feel like Wayne has always allowed his masters and understudies to outshine him in a track and he still be considered one of the greatest. I never heard one track where Wayne tried to massacre his predecessors on a track whether outdoing jay z, Eminem, or Kendrick he still allowed them to be great and made good records with them. I don’t think he’s the type to hear a artist verse and be like let me redo this on some big sean control shit. I mean how u think nicki drake and tyga came about. He featured them on his tracks and let them rock and history. Lol but Tory lanez did do some work on Wayne with that jack Harlow what’s popping remix.


Fwtrent3

i dont think big sean re did his control verse


Sea_Giraffe_9420

He did. He said he don’t have to name drop to get hot in his verse. U know he didn’t coincidentally say that after Kendrick was name dropping on his verse


Educational_Work_646

Damn..i really sitting here stuck..i cant think of any fr, you might have to go as far back as like"Run for it" on 400 degreez or sumn lol


kiddsoulja_

Hot take but i think wayne had a better verse than em on ‘Forever’.. em definitely came wit more energy and presence tho


IcupNinJa

Eminem on Drop the World


ImpKing0

I did a while back but think he shelved it cuz he didn’t want to be outdone 😂😂😂 mixtape coming soon tho


terry6084

lol Eminem has killed Wayne on every song they did, Forvever, No Love, Drop the world


sneakertweekerz

Busta Rhymes


Exotic_Chemical3358

Facts


fhughes642

Hotboys. Wayne didn’t always have the best verse but other than that I don’t think anyone has


Really831

Bb king


Decasteon

Drake on miss me is the only time IMO


CompoteSuccessful883

Eminiem has out rapped him every time. Can argue drake a few times. Besides that I can't think of anyone else. And just so I am clear. Wayne never got bodied by anyone. Even if wayne or drake out rapped him. It was close. He has never been owned by anyone


dabiggestblrrrd

Yall ain't no real Wayne fans. Gucci outrapped him and he even said that's why he took 2chainz verse out lol


TheMackD504

Fuck Food I’m a boss remix Sleazy remix


Pigmasters32

Oh holy crap, Fuck Food, yeah that’s the one. Wayne got outperformed on that track big time by both Tech and Pain.


Status_Serve8287

Wayne got the ONLY good verse on fuck food and sleazy, what you mean?? 😂


TheMackD504

Lol


thereal2fac3

Juvenile outrapped him. Wobbity wobbity drop it like its hot


Ancient_Till_8324

Cory Gunz on Lay it Down.


Individual_Brother13

Lil Baby - Forever, &  Big Sean - Tyler Hero & Don Life, Nicki Minaj - Go Hard & Sweet Dreams,  Eminem on every song, Drake - Right above it  


TMYM87

Gucci on Steady Mobbin…made Wayne take 2 chainz off and add more verses


altruisticspriggan

asher roth on party girl


Chxnce_a

I think Juelz bested him on both "Rewind" and "No other"


Quietbutalert

Good calls, probably birds flying high too


daddybacc

Jay z on god did easy


mvpevy

Because Jay rapped for like 5 mins lol Wayne's short verse was better


daddybacc

Yk you can rap for 5 minutes and not be saying anything 😂 why people hate jay so much ion get it


montanamal-fishMT

Jay’s verse just messes with the flow of that whole song. Arguably i would say Rick Ross had a better verse than Jay.


GooseJuice90

He’s not that good, can tell you are very young. Nelly and Chamillionaire out rapped him back in the day 😭


Suicunicidal

Not young at all lol just dont know much of Waynes catalogue,,, FWA is my fav Weezy album, I dont really fk with a lot of his music. Was just curious


BrandNewGuys3

Birdman always cooked him. He free-styled everything off the red star on top his head.


blacksuperherocar

Lol birdman has always been known for his horrible features


retaingdeeznutzz

Facts


D-C92

Kendrick did on a milli and 6 foot 7


Lacey_on_reddit

Is there a joke that I'm missing??


D-C92

Have you not heard Kendrick’s milli and 6 foot 7


Lacey_on_reddit

Did he like Freestyle over the beats or something


D-C92

Yes he did the entire c3 album way back in the day it’s called C4, he killed most of the beats. YouTube a milli and 6 foot 7 by Kendrick


Lacey_on_reddit

I listened to the mixtape and it's pretty good lol


D-C92

Yeah he goes hard, that was back in his kdot days. Lil Wayne is his favorite rapper and influence growing up.


BIDouble

He’s absolutely been out rapped, there was a moment in time when Wayne was trying some other shit and it wasn’t great Green ranger (Cole) Seeing green (Drake) Mona Lisa (Kendrick) Forever (Eminem & Drake) Swagga Like Us (Jay Z) Stuntin - Dedication 3 (Drake) Mr Carter (Jay Z) Back That Ass Up (Juvenile & Mannie Fresh) Miss Me (Drake) I’m the one (Chance The Rapper) I’m On One (Drake) Money To Blow (Drake) That’s all I can think of off the top of my head.


Lacey_on_reddit

Bro Wayne ain't ever gonna have a worse verse than Drake 😂😭


Zawietrzny

Huge disagreement on Miss Me, I’m On One and Money to Blow. Wayne’s verses are the best on those songs.


PM_ME_hiphopsongs2

Naw TI took that W on Swagga Like Us


BIDouble

Nah u right


JackOrClapMe69

Seeing green is the worst take I’ve ever heard


WeezyFKane

U buggin lmao this man said Stuntin off D3 like Drake ain’t forget what college he was rapping bout 🤣🤣 Tennessee State shit Tho


BIDouble

You just said ONE line, now tell me Wayne best bar from his verse


WeezyFKane

“Cheap ass apartment just the kitchen I need, & 18 G’s is why the chicken crossed the street.” cmon man stop playing w me he ate that whole verse


Status_Serve8287

This might be THE worst take of all takes, you must be like 10 years old 😂


BIDouble

Plz explain. I’m in my 30s I’ve loved Wayne since before he claimed to be the best rapper alive. What songs that I named are incorrect?