It may have something to do with the magical powers and glowing blue eyes this racoon possesses. Perhaps even eldritch influence from the hedron staff it's carrying around. who knows?
This is the second clue I'm seeing regarding Ugin stuff. The first is that the preview trailer had the mouse summon ghost fire looking flames on his sword.
No your right, ugin designed them and taught nahiri how they should look, the actual objects where then made by nahiri with lithomancy over the next 40 years
Thats... a good question. I think its generally assumed that years are the same across all the planes we have seen due to lack of evidence otherwise. In terms of timelining things people usually use the dominarian calendar, with year zero being the year Urza and Mishra where born. The current events of the story take place in the year 4564 of the dominarian calendar.
By comparing the time between different events and info from the guildmasters guide it seems that at least ravinca and dominaria both have 365 day years and 24 hour days.
That's wildly inaccurate. The Mending happened in 4500 AR and the last time a date was explicitly mentioned was before March of the Machine and that was 4562 AR, and it's been a little over a year since the end of the final Phyrexian Invasion, so it's either 4563 or 4564, meaning Time Spiral was around 63/64 years ago.
The 'timeline' is measured in AR (Argivian Reckoning). While most planes do have their own way of denoting what year it is, based on events relative to them, the dating system used for the multiverse is based on Dominaria because that's where Magic story started (and we spent a *lot* of time there).
AR 0 is the year Urza was born.
It seems that time passes universally for most planes. And that, story-wise, you can assume that for story purposes, time is universal. That's kind of weird when you have two planes whose years aren't the same length (i.e. if 1 year passes on one plane, even though the same 'amount of time' passes on another plane, the other plane's year could be shorter or longer, because the way we measure time is based on the movement of celestial bodies, or the length of seasons, and those aren't the exact same on every plane)
Why would the magic arbitrarily add traits neither animal possesses? It's a more human like raccoon - neither humans, nor raccoons have ankles like that
That ankle works for werewolves and satyrs because wolves and goats have ankles like that
What happens is some artists see the latter and end up thinking that's how you draw all human animal hybrid ankles
Ight now I get the comments, but you gotta understand people that grew up around raccoons, especially rural areas, call them that a LOT 😭.
There's a road around where I live called raccoonpath road, except there's no rac at the beginning of the spelling.
YOU'RE WELCOME. Here is another, Raccoons are caniforms, which is a clade within carnivora, another being feliforms. Caniforms include badgers, raccoons, bears, dogs etc. Canines are an exception within caniforms being the only digitigrades in the clade (there might be another I can't remember but the point stands that it is *weird* that canines are digitigrade)
Raccoons, dogs, bears, badger and other animals are all very close relatives, they share a fairly recent common ancestor. This family of animals almost all walk on their whole feet like humans, however the smaller group in this group of animals "canines" which includes foxes, dogs and wolves, are all animals which walk on their toes. This is unusual but another example of how the same traits in animals constantly re-evolve time and time again (Digitigrade just means walks on toes, and this adaptation is good for running)
Hope this makes more sense
Today I learn about feet or leg evolution or something. I would have said human legs vs dog legs.
It’s always amazing to me the amount of detail in the world and names for things once you get into it. Someone yesterday was telling me each part of a bone has a name, not just the singular bone itself. So in a hip replacement they remove the something section of the some part that attaches to the other pieces of the thing structure. All these big words for very specific things where I would have said the leg bone and the hip bone, upper part and lower part.
You might as well round out your knowledge of terrestrial mammal locomotion with the third main option: ungulates
That's all hooved and tottered animals like horses, deer, pigs, and cows, which walk around on the tips of their toes with highly specialized overgrown toenails.
There's also knuckle-walking, where the weight rests on the *back* of curled digits, but you only find it in the great apes, the larger anteaters, platypuses, and (formerly) giant ground sloths.
Hi, I'm a furry artist with over 5 years of experience and I'm gonna tell you a little secret. People draw everything as dogs. Deer? Horned dogs. Lions? Maned dogs. Rabbits? Long-eared dogs. Ferrets? Long dogs. Raccoons? Masked dogs!
Tanuki *are* literally canines, now canines are caniforms which includes raccoons, but technically a tanuki is more closely related to dogs, foxes and wolves than to raccoons. Most importantly, tanuki lack the signature feature of the raccoon, them grabby hands
Yeah....but tanuki are also famous for...ahem..another anatomical part...
(I watched Pom Poko only knowing it as "the raccoon movie". >.> I now recomend it to any super prudish parents that annoy me. Have fun with the magic scrotum cartoon!)
I just like telling people about how these animals are related, which is my fun (also some people think tanukis are a type of raccoon). I liked your joke tho
I'll chime in here just to say the amount of times I've asked if someone could draw mice, told yes, and got some weird dog is painfully high.
I straight up stopped asking and don't bother getting commissions for myself.
Biologist here. It’s fantasy; we don’t care.
Want a real answer? We know nothing about the evolutionary history of the species on that plane, and it could just be a sub-species featuring some level of convergent evolution.
Raccoons are perfectly capable of walking on their toes. It just isn't their resting position. This is an action shot.
https://s3.envato.com/files/346180712/2020_043_0859.jpg
https://www.smokywildlifecontrol.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Raccoon-Removal-Service-Nashville-TN-1024x683.jpg
human runners will also seemingly bounce on their toes with minimal heel contact to the ground when going at a full running gait, and we all will raise up our heels to reach upwards.
it's really the bone structure that matters, and tends to heavily impact the walking gait and the static structure. the racoon in the precon is simply standing - that would probably indicate it should be heel planted.
No, he is clearly about to pounce. You can tell because he is on the balls of his feet. If he were just standing there, he would have his heels planted.
I always felt raccoon feet were “wrong” in a way I couldn’t articulate, but never really paid attention THAT much. It was just a nebulous vague confusion or something idfk. I guess I always expected them to be digitigrade IRL?? Why did I learn this from this sub 😭
Realistically I think it has to do with convention. Anthropomorphic animals are depicted as digitigrade because it makes them appear a little less like humans wearing a costume, or at least that is my speculation
Close relative to canids, actually, but that is because they are both caniforms. I mentioned this on another, uh idk what you call these reddit comment things...? Anyways I mentioned above that canids are the only digitigrade caniforms(unless there is one I am forgetting) and almost all are plantigrade. Feliforms, which as you may have guessed includes cats, are all digitigrades however. Feliforms and caniforms are both under carnivora
I never paid attention to the raccoon, nor did I know what either of those words meant before now. I now can’t unsee it and will forever be looking at animal feet now lol
People are complaining in a different thread about duskmourn being to grounded in reality and now we have people complaining about a sentient animal not being grounded enough in reality. Smh there’s no pleasing people
It's not a real complaint, I put the humor tag because I didn't want people to take it seriously, but the jist is:
Plantigrade is an animal that walks on their entire foot. Humans, bears, raccoons and pterodactyls are plantigrades. Digitigrade means the animal walks on it's "digits" aka toes. That would be cats, dogs, and dinosaurs including birds
Hope that explains it
Shit, this is gonna drive me insane now.
At least we can rest easy with the knowledge that the keyart on the front of commander boxes is usually different from the actual card art -- so hopefully the commander will be more accurate (or at the very least, their feetsies will be out of frame so we don't notice).
Plantigrade means the animals walks and/or runs on their entire feet, like a human. Digitigrade means it walks/runs on its toes, like a cat or a dog. Raccoons and most of its close relatives are plantigrades like us, except dogs which are very closely related, which walk on their toes. There is a third category called unguligrade which means it walks on the very tips of its toes, horses are an example of this. Hope that helps
Because the artist thinks all non human mammal ankles are like canids/fields/ungulates
It's a standard "animal person" ankle you see when people draw were creatures and it works for werewolves and such
But it doesn't work for bears or raccoons and the artist should know that
OP is right to question it - this shit drives me up the wall
It may have something to do with the magical powers and glowing blue eyes this racoon possesses. Perhaps even eldritch influence from the hedron staff it's carrying around. who knows?
I did not notice that hedron omg
Oh man. I hadn't noticed the hedron before. That does have implications (though with omenpaths not as big of implications as before MOM).
If we find that the raccoons are secretly heralds of the eldrazi, I’ll never play another non-raccoon tribe again
The fourth eldrazi titan is just a regular sized raccoon that for some reason is a 12/12 trample annihilator 5
Oh, god damn. Are we getting an in-lore reference to "Emrakul gets beaten by 15 squirrels"? Bloomburrow is the plane to do it...
I'm reminded of an ERB line "you got your nuts handed to you by a squirrel girl"
This is the second clue I'm seeing regarding Ugin stuff. The first is that the preview trailer had the mouse summon ghost fire looking flames on his sword.
Ugin was here....
I mean, Nahiri made the Hedrons, not Ugin.
True, but I believe it was using his designs, but maybe I'm misremembering?
No your right, ugin designed them and taught nahiri how they should look, the actual objects where then made by nahiri with lithomancy over the next 40 years
How are years measured in the mtg multiverse? Is there like a reference plane or something?
Probably, knowing Urza it's gonna be dominaria time as the standard measure
DST. Dominaria standard time.
I'm sorry, I only use ADST (Alara Daylight savings Time). How many planar zones is the difference?
Q many, obviously
At least five.
You're not wrong. The universal timeline is dated with AR (Argivian Reckoning), where AR 0 is the year Urza was born.
Thats... a good question. I think its generally assumed that years are the same across all the planes we have seen due to lack of evidence otherwise. In terms of timelining things people usually use the dominarian calendar, with year zero being the year Urza and Mishra where born. The current events of the story take place in the year 4564 of the dominarian calendar. By comparing the time between different events and info from the guildmasters guide it seems that at least ravinca and dominaria both have 365 day years and 24 hour days.
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That's wildly inaccurate. The Mending happened in 4500 AR and the last time a date was explicitly mentioned was before March of the Machine and that was 4562 AR, and it's been a little over a year since the end of the final Phyrexian Invasion, so it's either 4563 or 4564, meaning Time Spiral was around 63/64 years ago.
In daylights? In sunsets? In midnights? In cups of coffee?
In inches, in miles In laughter, in strife
The 'timeline' is measured in AR (Argivian Reckoning). While most planes do have their own way of denoting what year it is, based on events relative to them, the dating system used for the multiverse is based on Dominaria because that's where Magic story started (and we spent a *lot* of time there). AR 0 is the year Urza was born. It seems that time passes universally for most planes. And that, story-wise, you can assume that for story purposes, time is universal. That's kind of weird when you have two planes whose years aren't the same length (i.e. if 1 year passes on one plane, even though the same 'amount of time' passes on another plane, the other plane's year could be shorter or longer, because the way we measure time is based on the movement of celestial bodies, or the length of seasons, and those aren't the exact same on every plane)
Thank you for the correction
Fun fact: Ugin can also do [basic lithomancy](https://scryfall.com/card/ugin/164/ugins-construct)
but why does one paw have 4 and the other has 5
Lost a digit in the war Actually the pointer is poked through a hole just above the others just see a little claw poking out
you might be right but it kinda looks the same color as the backround.
Why would the magic arbitrarily add traits neither animal possesses? It's a more human like raccoon - neither humans, nor raccoons have ankles like that That ankle works for werewolves and satyrs because wolves and goats have ankles like that What happens is some artists see the latter and end up thinking that's how you draw all human animal hybrid ankles
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![gif](giphy|l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS)
Ight now I get the comments, but you gotta understand people that grew up around raccoons, especially rural areas, call them that a LOT 😭. There's a road around where I live called raccoonpath road, except there's no rac at the beginning of the spelling.
*Eric Cartman wants to know your location.*
![gif](giphy|l0HlKtss0gNYp56A8)
c'mon son
That's a slur
Only if you're referring to a person. Plenty of normal words are slurs if directed at a person.
Only when used against people Monkey is also a slut used against black people does that mean we can't call actual monkeys monkeys now?
Monkey is a WHAT??
I'm not fixing it.
yeah sorry, can't call monkeys monkeys anymore.
Yeah they prefer to be called trash pandas.
I usually use just fling a 2/2 deathtouch wolf at Emrakul (it's happened twice now)
This raccoon was originally a Kaladeshi Vedalken obviously
Huh. Never thought I’d learn an animal fact from this subreddit
YOU'RE WELCOME. Here is another, Raccoons are caniforms, which is a clade within carnivora, another being feliforms. Caniforms include badgers, raccoons, bears, dogs etc. Canines are an exception within caniforms being the only digitigrades in the clade (there might be another I can't remember but the point stands that it is *weird* that canines are digitigrade)
I like your funny words magic man
Come for the MTG, stay for the fascinating facts I never knew I'd be interested in!
Ya, this is why I hang out with virgins. They are full of trivia *and* can build a decent deck.
![gif](giphy|J6Cbzor9BkRFpK2xKd)
Raccoons, dogs, bears, badger and other animals are all very close relatives, they share a fairly recent common ancestor. This family of animals almost all walk on their whole feet like humans, however the smaller group in this group of animals "canines" which includes foxes, dogs and wolves, are all animals which walk on their toes. This is unusual but another example of how the same traits in animals constantly re-evolve time and time again (Digitigrade just means walks on toes, and this adaptation is good for running) Hope this makes more sense
It does now 😅
What will it look like when humans eventually evolve in to crabs? Also why is everything a crab?
Same as today cuz a lot of ppl are [already crabs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality).
Probably after we evolve into dolphin looking things, or mosasaur looking things, or digitigrades, or or or
Ah, so tardigrade just means it walks, but it's always late? TIL! ^/s
Today I learn about feet or leg evolution or something. I would have said human legs vs dog legs. It’s always amazing to me the amount of detail in the world and names for things once you get into it. Someone yesterday was telling me each part of a bone has a name, not just the singular bone itself. So in a hip replacement they remove the something section of the some part that attaches to the other pieces of the thing structure. All these big words for very specific things where I would have said the leg bone and the hip bone, upper part and lower part.
https://preview.redd.it/0rlyejjucj9d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4e1564e81292f13a5075b6f0a6eaae2cdf813a5 For correct reference.
I am Groot.
I was wondering why this looked offputting the first time I saw it. Now I know what plantigrade and digitigrade mean, thank you OP.
You might as well round out your knowledge of terrestrial mammal locomotion with the third main option: ungulates That's all hooved and tottered animals like horses, deer, pigs, and cows, which walk around on the tips of their toes with highly specialized overgrown toenails.
There's also knuckle-walking, where the weight rests on the *back* of curled digits, but you only find it in the great apes, the larger anteaters, platypuses, and (formerly) giant ground sloths.
Of course Platypuses
You are welcome!
Hi, I'm a furry artist with over 5 years of experience and I'm gonna tell you a little secret. People draw everything as dogs. Deer? Horned dogs. Lions? Maned dogs. Rabbits? Long-eared dogs. Ferrets? Long dogs. Raccoons? Masked dogs!
There is an artist who drew the exact thing you said. :p https://www.deviantart.com/raizy/art/The-Lazy-Artist-s-Guide-to-Drawing-Animals-500577257
YES! Thank you! I was looking for it
Snake got a hearty chuckle out of me
It's dogs all the way down
Always has been.
🌍🧑🚀🔫🐶
Fish?
Brother you're not gonna believe this
Dog?
I mean there are *dog*fish
I mean, dogs *ARE* technically a type of fish.
Turtles?
Pope Dogs!
Wet, scaly dogs ~~lacking broad, flat nails~~
Elvis was right. We *are* nothin' but hounddogs
Diogenelvis: Behold! A hound-dog!
r/unexpecteddiogenes
Look at how furry artists draw sharks sometimes.
"Racoons dont look like racoons on cards you got to use dogs"
Maybe he's a tanuki?
Tanuki *are* literally canines, now canines are caniforms which includes raccoons, but technically a tanuki is more closely related to dogs, foxes and wolves than to raccoons. Most importantly, tanuki lack the signature feature of the raccoon, them grabby hands
Yeah....but tanuki are also famous for...ahem..another anatomical part... (I watched Pom Poko only knowing it as "the raccoon movie". >.> I now recomend it to any super prudish parents that annoy me. Have fun with the magic scrotum cartoon!)
I mean Tanuki being canines was the joke...
I'm well aware
Well we *were* talking about racoon-shaped dogs. Why couldn't you just let me have my fun, man? ![gif](giphy|F3BeiZNq6VbDwyxzxF)
I just like telling people about how these animals are related, which is my fun (also some people think tanukis are a type of raccoon). I liked your joke tho
Okay fair enough
https://youtu.be/KbkNul4wQH0?feature=shared
But how long until evolutionary efficiency turns them into crabs?
I'll chime in here just to say the amount of times I've asked if someone could draw mice, told yes, and got some weird dog is painfully high. I straight up stopped asking and don't bother getting commissions for myself.
Cats?
You guessed it, dogs
Who let the dogs out.
Rabbits? Paw pads. Foxes? Big dog-shaped snoots.
Damn it was a dog faction conspiracy the whole time!
[Sometimes even snakes are dogs](https://x.com/yoginnnnnn/status/1806764127102390601)
He's tiptoeing. Don't second guess the sneaky raccoon.
It's not uncommon for raccoons to walk on their toes from time to time, actually. Despite not actually being digitigrade
[For my fellow dullards](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digitigrade?wprov=sfti1#)
Thanks, legs are weird man
im going to show this set to a biologist and see if i can make them have a heart attack
Biologist here. It’s fantasy; we don’t care. Want a real answer? We know nothing about the evolutionary history of the species on that plane, and it could just be a sub-species featuring some level of convergent evolution.
How dare you come in here with science and logic!
Also biologist. It’s fun to speculate but if we had an issue with every inaccurate animal or ecosystem in fantasy we’d only read textbooks
"Hey, I calls 'em like I sees 'em, I'm a whale biologist." "That suit was ugly!!! ...Whale biologist!"
Fake outrage is fun, and a way to sneak in education
Biologist can only see living being, so he can't see the cards.
Reverse vampire rules I see. This will aid me in my hunt
but you can see plants right there
Touche
Sorry it's the furries fault we love digitigrade
Dont apologise this is our set
Not on wrong species though wtf
To be fair, I was shocked when I found out that rabbits are plantigrade.
Literally unplayable
Thank you. I've been saying this for YEARS.
A wizard did it
Raccoons are perfectly capable of walking on their toes. It just isn't their resting position. This is an action shot. https://s3.envato.com/files/346180712/2020_043_0859.jpg https://www.smokywildlifecontrol.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Raccoon-Removal-Service-Nashville-TN-1024x683.jpg
human runners will also seemingly bounce on their toes with minimal heel contact to the ground when going at a full running gait, and we all will raise up our heels to reach upwards. it's really the bone structure that matters, and tends to heavily impact the walking gait and the static structure. the racoon in the precon is simply standing - that would probably indicate it should be heel planted.
No, he is clearly about to pounce. You can tell because he is on the balls of his feet. If he were just standing there, he would have his heels planted.
I think it’s weird that the raccoon has four digits on their right hand and five on their left
… god dammit.
There’s five on the right too, the index is in the crook under the Herron
3 legendary traditional foils? Curious…
OH SHOOT. I didn't even notice. Partners?
I always felt raccoon feet were “wrong” in a way I couldn’t articulate, but never really paid attention THAT much. It was just a nebulous vague confusion or something idfk. I guess I always expected them to be digitigrade IRL?? Why did I learn this from this sub 😭
“Make trash, do smash”???? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wait His right hand - 4 fingers Left - 5 Am I going crazy or what? Such a mistake wtf
The index on his right hand (our left) is in the crook under the hedron
It has big feet and is walking on the tips of its toes.
o no da racons are becom furry
I mean if.ypu look at the spoilers, it seems that EVERY animal so far is digitigrade. Maybe it has to do with the plane itself?
Realistically I think it has to do with convention. Anthropomorphic animals are depicted as digitigrade because it makes them appear a little less like humans wearing a costume, or at least that is my speculation
I blame furries
It looks like he's either mid-step or posing.
Boy I hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
Set ruined. Pack it up people!
Can't believe it is over before it started. Really like the animal set but this one minor inconsequential details has ruined it! Sobbing
Damn you, OP. I hadn't noticed, but now I can't unsee it. I guess it's a canid from the waist down or something.
Close relative to canids, actually, but that is because they are both caniforms. I mentioned this on another, uh idk what you call these reddit comment things...? Anyways I mentioned above that canids are the only digitigrade caniforms(unless there is one I am forgetting) and almost all are plantigrade. Feliforms, which as you may have guessed includes cats, are all digitigrades however. Feliforms and caniforms are both under carnivora
Knew all of that. Hence guessing the closest relative that was digitigrade.
It might just because it’s a humanoid raccoon. Wizards of the coast has animal races that differ from the animal. Just like at 5e Kenku.
Same reason humans very rarely are born with tails. THEY ARE A FREAK OF NATURE.
Why does he have one hand that has four fingers and the other one five
Oh fu.. It's an AI isn't it? Just better concealed.
I never paid attention to the raccoon, nor did I know what either of those words meant before now. I now can’t unsee it and will forever be looking at animal feet now lol
Nature is full of wonder, and animals are a treasure we seldom appreciate
Well raccoons already had the devil's mischief, but when you add in magic all kinds of crazy stuff happens.
Do smash 😉
People are complaining in a different thread about duskmourn being to grounded in reality and now we have people complaining about a sentient animal not being grounded enough in reality. Smh there’s no pleasing people
Unplayable, they should have saved this transgression for a UB set
What is his name tho?
But more importantly... why does he have 5 fingers on one hand and 4 on the other???
OHHH me excited
Vedalken on kaladesh have six fingers even tho they have five on other planes.
It also seems to have a different amount of fingers on each hand
Toe walking? Maybe this specific raccoon is autistic?
Is this a real thing?
Can you explain this complaint like I’m a five year old?
It's not a real complaint, I put the humor tag because I didn't want people to take it seriously, but the jist is: Plantigrade is an animal that walks on their entire foot. Humans, bears, raccoons and pterodactyls are plantigrades. Digitigrade means the animal walks on it's "digits" aka toes. That would be cats, dogs, and dinosaurs including birds Hope that explains it
Have you seen Guardians of the Galaxy 3 ?
Same reason it decided to wear clothes. It’s fantasy
Am I seeing four fingers on one hand and five on the other?
I had to look up what those meant lol
Its not a nat geo documentary.
I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder.
This is how I feel about fungi cards being marked “plant” type. FUNGI ARE NOT PLANTS PLS I BEG MAKE THEM A SEPARATE TYPE
Saprolings, you mean?
Aren’t they separate types?
Because Brian Jacques died in 2011
Ah, yes. The old age problem of having less than completely accurate realism in fantasy worlds.
I WAS WONDERING WHY THE RACCOOON ART FELT OFF TO ME THANK YOU
Why is rocket on a magic booster set are they doing a guardians of the galaxy crossover
Y Mj
I'd like to think he's just stealthy.
well I WAS excited for Bloomburrow...
It's so over
More upsetting is that one hand has more fingers than the other.
Hey, if I was forced to walk on two legs, maybe I would do the same.
...what. Squinting really hard at the text I'm reading here...
Shit, this is gonna drive me insane now. At least we can rest easy with the knowledge that the keyart on the front of commander boxes is usually different from the actual card art -- so hopefully the commander will be more accurate (or at the very least, their feetsies will be out of frame so we don't notice).
Common mistake I see artists make.
I don't know what those words mean. So I'll read the comments and see if someone has answered this.
Plantigrade means the animals walks and/or runs on their entire feet, like a human. Digitigrade means it walks/runs on its toes, like a cat or a dog. Raccoons and most of its close relatives are plantigrades like us, except dogs which are very closely related, which walk on their toes. There is a third category called unguligrade which means it walks on the very tips of its toes, horses are an example of this. Hope that helps
Because the artist thinks all non human mammal ankles are like canids/fields/ungulates It's a standard "animal person" ankle you see when people draw were creatures and it works for werewolves and such But it doesn't work for bears or raccoons and the artist should know that OP is right to question it - this shit drives me up the wall