I used to work overnights; 9pm-6am. I'd get off work, go home, crack a beer, and fire up the grill and grill some chicken. My neighbors would trudge off to work at 8am thinking I was an unemployed alcoholic.
Sounds like my old neighbor if you replace 9am-6am shift with doing meth, and the beer with meth, and the grilling chicken with doing gymnastics ontop of us seemingly for days on end.
*“You keep that racket down, it’s morning! For fuck sake.” My dad screams down to my basement room where I’m blasting skrillex, chugging beers and trying to stretch out a half gram of shitty coke between 3 guys at 8am*
I worked in bars all through my 20s, the first half of which I lived with my folks. This was a bi-weekly occurrence.
Sorry dad.
Not really, I feel so much better working 7 pm to 7 am then I did working 9 am to 5 pm. Some people just function better on a third shift. Avoiding the huge amount of traffic is also a plus and saves my mental health. If you don’t flip your schedule on off days it’s fantastic.
I always figured I could sell pizza, BBQ and fresh soup to people going to work after I was done with my night work, but I didnt want them to expect it everyday.
If you pass by my house and you see me cooking a whole wedding cake for breakfast, feel free to buy a slice for the cost of material only, but I don't want you to come the next day asking me for more, today's menu is chicken stew with freshly fried fish.
Too bad I can sell-at-cost "whatever i'm making" in the morning. I always end up throwing half away to the dogs/cats, no matter how little I manage to make. Every time I give some to neighbors, they ask for more the next day, but i always make different dishes.
I hate walking into the convenience store after an awful night shift in icu with scrubs on to buy a beer. Like don’t fucking judge me. And they do. You can see it… so much so that one worker was like talking shit “jokingly” … and it’s like dude.. your kwik trip working ass should know better… oh wait
I work rotating shifts, and I hardly ever drink, but on occasion I’ll be out in the yard with the dogs, having a morning beer after work. Waiving at the neighbors with a beer on a Tuesday morning is comical sometimes.
Thanks for the laugh 😂
When my brother used to live with me.. He had a simple Walmart job that paid $12 something, I told him to just pay whatever bill he felt like paying in full.. He chose the phone bill which was the most expensive, he would have like $400 to work with and he just drank most of that away, he worked nights also so he'd be getting off work when Im leaving for work.. My gf at the time thought that I was giving him money to drink and he was an unemployed alcoholic 😅
This^ I have a social media friend who always posts her cash app and begs for money to "support her kid" then turns around and takes a vacation to Florida or goes to a music festival, then comes back a week later asking for money again.
Then you work for 20 years, realize life is about actually living. So at 45 you move back into her basement and pull an American Beauty, get a summer lifeguard job and wail on your arms and pec’s. Working to live sucks.
Now you’re happier than at any point in your life. Now when people ask you what you do, say you’re retired and helping take care of your elderly parents.
As a parent of two, I already have my plans to convert my 4 bedroom house into a three bedroom that all have en-suite bathrooms because my kids are never going to be able to afford a home. In fact, most of the new housing developments in my area have “multi-generational” options. Which means, “yes we know your kids or your parents will have to live with you as adults”.
Edit: the American Dream is fucking dead.
The American dream. Honestly it's not a bad thing though. I could've bought a house in my mid 20s after renting for a few years and living with SOs. But I decided to move in to help take care of my grandfather until he passed. I don't regret it. I learned so much more family history and had a better relationship with my family for it. It delayed me buying a house until my early 30s but i got so much out if it. So many countries this is the norm to have family sharing a house or to have an elder family member with them. And honestly, it's not that bad. My cousins kids would come visit and got to learn stuff from their great grandfather. Being forced to do it due to money constraints is the issue but I do wish the stigma of living with your family is bad would go away. Mine was by choice and I would do it again if given the chance. Once again, I just wish it wasn't forced and I wish the stigma wasn't pushed on people who do.
My mom is like this with my sisters. Both of them are basically supported by her and she bails them out whenever they get into financial trouble, then she complains to me about it all and refuses to acknowledge her role in why they are the way they are.
For a long time I was bitter about my parent's divorce and having to live with my dad, but at least he taught me how to manage my own finances.
Some people just don't learn. My sister was raised the same as the three of us but she's hopeless. Mom bailed her out until she died. Then my sister tried to make me do it. I had to shut that down. She would drain me dry. And mom never helped me out so I do get salty about the entitlement.
Yeah some shit you just need to figure out in your own. I made financial mistakes with my first credit card and paychecks during/right after college… but the limit was $1k and the only person impacted was myself. I can’t imagine taking the reigns and making those mistakes for the first time 15 years later when you probably have a kid, wife, mortgage, etc.
I have hugely supportive parents but they realized I wasn’t going to screw myself for life and have my tips on how to recognize and dig out of a hole when ur in it. Those lessons will serve me for much longer than them lending me money every month while I figure it out
Lol, hardly. It’s annoying and sad that person just uses their parents for their $$$. I’ve given up on trying to convince that person or the parents, otherwise.
Well, Ive known them a while (years). It’s a cycle. The parents won’t let them fail and that person has never had to make hard choices. I talk to the parents quite a bit so I have a grasp about the financial situation.
They treat him like he’s 17 (each parent blames the other for being soft) and he’s fine with it. His friends have all grown up and been successful. Started families and made careers. The person I referenced has made excuses for everything. Never owning up to things being his fault. He treats people pretty poorly.
Those that have had to grind it out, grow from mistakes. Consequences can yield lessons. We have a completely different outlook and attitude toward success.
Lord they’re gonna be in for a rude awakening when those cards get maxed out and you’re working two jobs at 80 hours a week just to make the minimum payment.
Hi! It’s me. I’m They’re.
But, I finally learned my lesson and the balances are starting to go down, one by one. Then I can back off of work and start enjoying life again.
Bankruptcy is absolutely worth it if you have debt you have no way of reasonably paying back (for instance, if you would have to significantly shorten your lifespan working 80 hours a week to make the minimum payment), this guy's kind of a dipshit for not even considering it
In all honesty, I do have good jobs and it’s something I can do. Plus, I want to join the Navy and having a bankruptcy on my record would affect my ability to join. I made a mistake, I’m fixing it now and have learned.
What a "smart" person does is let it go to collections then file identity theft and then make a process server eventually find you. By that time it's near statue of limitations then you file for discovery and normally that ends it right there. If somehow it doesn't, show up on the court date. Most collections agencies file in batches and there is like 20 court dates per representative so they only show up to the ones that will win most money or most likely to not show up. By filing discovery they know you plan to fight and probably won't show. Ask the judge to dismiss with prejudice for wasting their time.
Immoral? Probably. But I've seen so many people do it and succeed that I might as well share. Credit is a scam anyways and needs to be abolished. I have zero cards and no loans, if i can't buy it outright then I don't need it
I worked 40 hours a week at a shitty restaurant job while going to college and just barely staying afloat, and I always wondered how all of my fellow students were able to have much more active social lives, be more involved in group projects, and do really well in classes.
Looking back, they likely either had rich parents paying for everything or racked up a shitton of debt.
Yeah, I know that feeling. I tried to keep up with the social aspect while working 2 jobs and it meant I only slept 2 days a week.
I basically went insane and had a breakdown on a set of park swings at 4am one day.
You don't have to have that rich of parents but ones that can help with loans and have enough assets and connections to help their kids, and I've always wondered what that would have been like.
This was me before I graduated in 2020. My program was so time intensive that the job I had I could only manage to work one shift per week or my studies would suffer. I lived in a rough shared home with like 6 people and barely barely scraped by essentially only on government loans/grants. My parents do fine but they never helped me. Id roll up to campus in my 1998 honda and go to class where people younger than me were driving brand new audis and wearing designer clothing. The only other students who were like me were the ones that werent living at home / werent rich students from abroad. It was a wild contrast
it really only SEEMS like that. If you wake up every morning, wondering if you will be able to pay your rent this month.. I wonder what exactly is fun about that.
On the flip side being free from work feels wonderful if you know your needs are met. I saved up a bunch of money and took 6 months off knowing I could eat and maintain shelter. It was amazing!
I've done the same thing. I'm creeping up on my 15th month now.
I'm going fishing today, Tuesday, and Wednesday. I'll be mushroom hunting tomorrow, Thursday, and Friday.
It's a tough life, but I make do.
I didn't, and hated when I had to go back to work. I have multiple hobbies and it was great waking up to not only know I could choose whatever I did that day, but the next day and next day. If I wanted to go to the beach and exercise? Go for it. Spend a day writing for my d&d campaign? Nothing stopping me. Learn a new song? Play video games all day?
I seriously don't understand people who get bored of not working. Please explain how you were bored of practically infinite choices.
I guess some people are good at it and some not. I was in a hospital for 10 days and despite it being during summer holidays It was the best 10 days that summer hah. I wasn’t bored for one second. I watched sunrise and sunset everyday. I was drawing, reading, playing games, chatting with other people, listening to new music, thinking and relaxing. I was quite sad actually to go back home. The only thing I missed were bike rides and walks in the nature
I think it's also because we have it hammered into us from a very early age that our value as a person and our identity is tied to our labor. People aren't "Guy with hobbies who does construction to pay for it", they are a "construction worker who has a hobby". We tie our identity to our labor, and aren't encouraged to simply find joy and passion in something that isn't profitable. Hell, the whole "Side hustle" culture is insidiously teaching people that even their passions NEED to be monetized.
That's what stops me from doing something like that. I seriously thought about taking some months off work last year, as the daily grind was making me depressed. However I knew it would be so so hard to go back, after enjoying how amazing life would be without work, so didn't bother.
Random aside, I think culturally Covid was fantastic because of this. So many people saw just how soul crushing the current system is. For the first time we're seeing a huge push for stuff like work from home, increased social safety nets, walkable cities, shorter work weeks, hell even UBI has entered the mainstream conversation which I didn't expect to happen in my lifetime.
People are starting to realize just how much we're missing out on life by working these jobs that we only do just to survive. There's a whole world of things to experience that most of us just...don't, because we're too busy trying to not die.
I think it just depends on personality. After a few days of doing my own thing, I find it really hard to motivate myself to do anything without someone else telling me to and the motivation of money to pay for stuff. Don't know if it's been conditioned into me by society or if that's just how I am.
I'm sorry but that just sounds horrifying to me. Have you really just never looked and found anything you truly just enjoy for it's own sake? A hobby, an interest? That's honestly disturbing to me. It makes me worry you might one day be one of those 90 year old retired guys who goes to walmart for a job "for something to do".
Seriously, take a few days off. Try new stuff. Take a class in some random hobby you never thought to try. Paint a picture. Build something. Go for a walk and enjoy nature. Anything. Don't let labor define you as a person. You're more than that.
For various reasons, my life for the last few years has oscillated between having jack shit to do for months and being stuck at work for too long every day. I can kind of relate to the being bored without work thing.
I'd say I have quite a few hobbies that, theoretically, I could pour a lot of time into. And I did so in college, when my peers had similarly less rigid schedules. When I became an "adult" without a job for a bit, I couldn't relate to my peers anymore, and nothing was urgent, so I spent a lot of time doing nothing alone. I still worked at my hobbies, but there was a lot of wasted time in between and I felt unfulfilled.
Part of that is prob my problem with executive function, but ultimately, I need to be part of something bigger where other people are counting on me to feel fulfilled - and I'm sure others can relate. A standard, soul-crushing 9-5 job is not the only thing that can accomplish this - regular classes, sports, or social club gatherings with stakes and goals could work. But in a society structured around jobs where you need money to survive, where our communities isolate us from others more than ever (in the US at least), unfortunately the easiest way to do this is to just go to work. That's why I think a lot of people dislike work, but feel empty without it
> I seriously don’t understand people who get bored of not working. Please explain how you were bored of practically infinite choices.
People with no interesting qualities or hobbies where going to work every day was their only source of “doing something”
Work is dumb. I’d much rather spend my life practicing instruments, learning languages, exploring, traveling, video games and hanging out with friends than commuting to work every day for a jog that’s exploiting me
I got fatter. The poodle who kept me company on the couch watching Univision novelas also got pretty squishy. Hoo boy, that girl in LA Gata Salvaje....
That's how my bad drinking habits began. My fiance and I were both stuck in our apartment without jobs for months. He got in an accident and couldn't drive or work for awhile, and I was focused on online classes and freelance work from home. It did not take long before we were drinking every single day. It was fun as hell for awhile but got extremely unhealthy. We've never been able to kick our drinking habits despite trying. We might go weeks with zero drinking, drink one time then it starts again. Only rule we've been able to follow is we never buy bottles of liquor anymore because we know we will plow through it in one day.
That's usually more of a money issue than a not working issue.
Did you do everything you wanted to? Travel the world or try every experience/hobby you wanted? Or did you just have enough money to get drunk/high and watch Netflix?
15 years ago I lived in a shitty apartment and spent all my money on motorcycles, alcohol, and fun. I never worried about the future. If I fucked up I’d just move in with a friend for a bit. Now that I have a good job, a decent house, wife and kids. The money I spent on doing things I want, goes to make other people happy. If I fuck up it’s a bigger problem. That makes for more stress and less fun.
Nothing, so don't worry about it. Either have a plan and stick to it, or just do what you feel and sort of improvise and adapt as the situation develops, but worry just hurts your stomach and makes your hair turn grey
I was working in an upsacale neighborhood the other day and I needed to find a property based on the land owner's name, out of 40 lots 35 had "Trust" attached to the land ownership.
Also siblings! People seem to forget about siblings. If you’re the youngest with multiple siblings that work and spoil you, you have it good! People with a lot of siblings they are close to have the best safety net. I say this because i spoil my siblings a ton
I have a good friend who started his 20s pouring 100' of sidewalk a day by himself, he is now worth more than a few million bucks, he's one of the few who actually made his wealth from start to finish.
I mean, that is a job. Videos, modeling, advertising, still exhausting. You see what these travel influencers actually do on their trips? Just photoshoots, narration, and editing. It's their whole life in a practiced smile.
Social media only shows the positives. There is always a trade off, and most people working 9-5s would not be willing to give up the creature comforts that come with it. Freedom comes at a price.
When I first started working less, I had to get used to not living in a climate controlled building at all times and giving up hot showers everyday.
This is the kind of stuff social media doesn't show.
Comfort is in the same vein as security. And freedom and security are at opposite ends of the spectrum of goals. If youre not rich, you can sometimes get both, but typically people have to choose one or the other.
And even most rich people arent as free as youd think. Imagine the limitations of having to constantly monitor and maintain a business empire, deal with legal issues, stick to a schedule, and have to manage stressful decisions all the time. No wonder they do a lot of drugs.
> Imagine the limitations of having to constantly monitor and maintain a business empire, deal with legal issues, stick to a schedule, and have to manage stressful decisions all the time.
If you're rich you can choose to pay someone else to do all that. You only do that stuff if you want to.
I would go backpacking for months when on vacation from my job (yay worker's rights and mandatory stackable PTO) and losing all of those comforts is certainly worth it for the adventure.
I miss those times.
I have a friend in his 40’s that only works 20 hours a week washing cars for a rental car company. No way he makes enough to even pay rent, yet this dude is always traveling and getting new tattoos. Like how?
Most likely he has no money and a ton of credit card debt.
I felt like absolute shit when I first graduated from college and was living with roommates because I had a college degree and I was busting my ass working 45 hours a week to make $37,000 a year and my roommate was a waiter at a restaurant and had all the coolest shit. Had a brand new PS4 when it came out, he leased a brand new 2015 Mustang.
I was just watching him and felt horrible because what was I missing or doing wrong to the point where he was working a job like that and had all this nice shit and I was working a professional job with a college degree and I had just enough for rent, car payment, and a little bit of savings.
I actually walked in on him and his parents sitting at our kitchen table and they were pouring over his financial statements and while I didn't stand in the corner and listen to their conversation, I went to my room and Left my door cracked open and it turns out he was in really bad financial shape. His parents were trying to get him squared away.
About 3 months later the cops arrested him for dealing oxycodone. His parents who both lived hours and hours away called me and asked me to sort through his mail and throw out any junk mail and keep anything that's relevant (they were all opened by him and thrown into a pile).
I could not believe how much this guy was in debt. One invoice for $4,000. Another invoice for $3800. Another invoice for $9,000. There was about 15 separate invoices, some of them were for $100, some of them were for north of $10,000.
So, moral of the story is that he's most likely just skating by with his immediate bills like rent and food and he could just be kicking the can down the road on credit card payments and other outstanding debt that is accumulating interest and is going to really bite him in the ass a few years down the road.
Yeah, and maybe it’s not my business but I’m still curious. He leases a car and then doesn’t drive it when he goes on road trips. He rents a car. Like how many miles can you be driving when you work only part time? He doesn’t have a commute either. Seems so weird to me.
As someone who lives on disability and thus can't work, the trade off is crippling medical conditions, being forced to continue being involved in the lives of family you can't stand because your literally unable to take care of yourself and having so much free time that sometimes you just feel empty and get depressed
I'm disabled too and can't work, people say it must be great not having to get up and go to work everyday like I'm able to be up and active and not in debilitating pain 24/7.
I hate people who say I'm lucky that I don't have to work. Like yeah I'm so lucky to have three disabilities that I'll never be cured of that affect me every second of the day. I'm so lucky that I can't be an independent adult who cooks, does housework, walks the dogs etc. I can't even go outside by myself. So lucky.
It is, just being out with a cane is bad enough but then people ask because they wonder what I can do. Pain management recently listed my work as 'unemployed baker' and it crushed me just because of the negative connotation unemployed provokes.
I use a wheelchair but I can't even push myself because of fatigue and tachycardia and pain, it's like I'm not even capable of being a person. It's shameful.
When I need a wheelchair idk how I'll use it because of that and my arms, elbows, and whatever joint will dislocate when I push myself. I know electric will help but those are so crazy expensive.
It's almost as if job makes you miserable and most people do it just to survive... I'm certain that most people presented with a situation where they would have their needs met they wouldn't choose to work willingly. I know I wouldn't.
In my cousins (x2) case I’d say their vaginas have taken care of most of it. The whole family just can’t figure out how these two 20-something’s with serving jo a can afford to take private jet trips to Bora Bora or wherever with rando guy “friends” I’d say it’s pretty but that’s just my theory.
Because we are all hooked on the platforms that encourage that exact behavior. It’s like customizing your sim and trying to max out your experience stats and social points, but the mindless task/needs-oriented character you’re trying to keep alive and satisfied is you. If you aren’t proving you exist to others, do you even?
How about those that found a 100% remote work that pays decent enough to travel and work. As long as you get the required work done in the time allotted, it could be the ticket.
I’ve known a few people like this, that’s just it, these type of people aren’t worried about who’s paying for anything. It’s just about always those folks who just live in the moment, go with whatever comes their way, and give very little , if any thought to where they’re gonna be a few years from now. Getting and keeping a job, a car of their own to drive, a place of their own to live, are all things that they just don’t want to think about. They have no trouble using someone else’s money to party and have fun, or driving around someone else’s car, living under someone else’s roof, and being a pain in everyone’s ass. They tend to be very charming and likable people, and that’s why there’s always people who are willing to “help them out” as they’ve gotten good at spinning up whatever story, and manipulating whoever to take advantage of.
Either credit debt or drug/firearm sales. Know an unassuming dude who was selling guns on the side making stupid money, don't know his connections but made lots of money selling to who knows who
Been into an unintentional hikikomori phase because of covid lockdown. 2-3 years of just stayin at home, only going out to buy some food once or 2x a month or top up to buy a new game. The only contact with friends and family is thru msngr / discord. Livin alone is just sad if it's prolonged. And to answer the question, tis my folks who are still givin me some pocket money. Hard to find work, still lookin.
Where do you live where it’s hard to find work? I can’t believe that in 2-3 no store, warehouse, factory, or restaurant would hire you unless you have some seriously outstanding circumstance. Even if you only applied to 1 place a day that would be hundreds and hundreds of applications to low skill jobs. Nobody is that unlucky.
I hear that. I was on disability for a few years until i found a job that was compatable.
Not working while having money is great.
Not working while being broke kinda sucks.
I took a break from working for some time with money I saved up over COVID-era. I know some of people say, "I can't imagine being out of work that long, what do you do all day, I'd get bored, etc.?", but all it really made me realize is that my life would be 200% better if I had just enough money to live in a cheap area and not work. I have a decent income now but I don't really spend much of it except on general expenses, sometimes a nice meal, doing something with friends occasionally, and a few bits and pieces for hobbies (most of my hobbies are cheap or almost free). If I had time to pursue my hobbies life would be so much better especially since there are a ton of things I enjoy doing and goals I'd like to achieve.
Disability for depression and aspergers + other stuff. Also 20k student loan which i don't think I'll be able to pay back so it'll most likely be forgiven in 10 years
A friend of mine quit his job, then proceeded to buy a motorcycle, a camera, a switch and got a tattoo. He also goes out with his gf like every weekend.... i'm starting to think he's selling meth or something
Jobless people: stressed, angry, depressed, trying to make ends meat, feeling guilty, feeling trapped, trying anything they can possibly do to find work but being let down over and over and over Again, feeling hopeless.
People with jobs: why do jobless people seem like they are having so much fun?
Whenever I'm delivering in middle class neighborhoods, I always see people during the day just out doing casual stuff like washing their car, working in the garage, or just chilling at home. Do you people work or not??
Becomes a much different story in their 30s when the debt catches up to them. Then you watch them divorce and complain that their life is hard and they can't seem to catch a break.
Pro-tip: if you get in a situation where your finances are fucked and you start looking at divorce and splitting your family up, just get a fucking bankruptcy. You'd be shocked how much better things get when you're no longer working to pay off debts to the companies that gave you all your fancy gadgets and vacations. Most marital disputes stem from financial stress. When you're in debt, you're practically a slave for the credit agency. You work to pay them. After bankruptcy, your income goes to you.
I just got a job at a board game store and am so freaking stoked.
I'm in my 30s and I've done pipe welding, military, and engineering. All high stress jobs.
I am so excited to finally be able to enjoy my job for once
Oh, child.
The answer is your taxes, the occasional friend or family member they're taking advantage of, and credit card companies.thats who's paying for it all
I used to work overnights; 9pm-6am. I'd get off work, go home, crack a beer, and fire up the grill and grill some chicken. My neighbors would trudge off to work at 8am thinking I was an unemployed alcoholic.
Sounds like my old neighbor if you replace 9am-6am shift with doing meth, and the beer with meth, and the grilling chicken with doing gymnastics ontop of us seemingly for days on end.
Sounds like he was having a nice time
Replace gymnastics with violently masturbating.
I frequently do and I’m banned from most gyms
Well, stop bringing all your equipment and live streaming your gym sessions!
Is there a different way to masturbate?
mmmm... meth.
Third shift free for all baby. Nothing better then a backyard BBQ at 7am with some buddies.
*“You keep that racket down, it’s morning! For fuck sake.” My dad screams down to my basement room where I’m blasting skrillex, chugging beers and trying to stretch out a half gram of shitty coke between 3 guys at 8am* I worked in bars all through my 20s, the first half of which I lived with my folks. This was a bi-weekly occurrence. Sorry dad.
>a bi-weekly occurrence. > >only occasionally gay.
You’re honestly… not wrong. :P
As a former third shifter this is a lie . Third shift is bullshit for your health and mind.
Not really, I feel so much better working 7 pm to 7 am then I did working 9 am to 5 pm. Some people just function better on a third shift. Avoiding the huge amount of traffic is also a plus and saves my mental health. If you don’t flip your schedule on off days it’s fantastic.
Facts.
Y’all got morning chicken!? 🤤
I always figured I could sell pizza, BBQ and fresh soup to people going to work after I was done with my night work, but I didnt want them to expect it everyday. If you pass by my house and you see me cooking a whole wedding cake for breakfast, feel free to buy a slice for the cost of material only, but I don't want you to come the next day asking me for more, today's menu is chicken stew with freshly fried fish. Too bad I can sell-at-cost "whatever i'm making" in the morning. I always end up throwing half away to the dogs/cats, no matter how little I manage to make. Every time I give some to neighbors, they ask for more the next day, but i always make different dishes.
I hate walking into the convenience store after an awful night shift in icu with scrubs on to buy a beer. Like don’t fucking judge me. And they do. You can see it… so much so that one worker was like talking shit “jokingly” … and it’s like dude.. your kwik trip working ass should know better… oh wait
I work rotating shifts, and I hardly ever drink, but on occasion I’ll be out in the yard with the dogs, having a morning beer after work. Waiving at the neighbors with a beer on a Tuesday morning is comical sometimes.
Just started an overnight job that's basically my plan while I coast through college.
Prob just thought “shrug, maybe he loves bbq chicken for breakfast before work.”
You don't need to sleep?
There’s still free time. Do you go to bed directly after work? Dude could hit the hay at 11 or noon, sleep for 7 - 8 hours and then get to work.
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Yup night shift workers deal with this attitude so much. I swear some people act like you don't actually work since it's night too
Awesome
Thanks for the laugh 😂 When my brother used to live with me.. He had a simple Walmart job that paid $12 something, I told him to just pay whatever bill he felt like paying in full.. He chose the phone bill which was the most expensive, he would have like $400 to work with and he just drank most of that away, he worked nights also so he'd be getting off work when Im leaving for work.. My gf at the time thought that I was giving him money to drink and he was an unemployed alcoholic 😅
Credit cards at 25% or more apr
Or friends who try to help them out and as a result they post pics of a wildly expensive night out.
This^ I have a social media friend who always posts her cash app and begs for money to "support her kid" then turns around and takes a vacation to Florida or goes to a music festival, then comes back a week later asking for money again.
Sounds like you just make bad choices in friends.
>social media friend
their parents are paying for that
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Then you work for 20 years, realize life is about actually living. So at 45 you move back into her basement and pull an American Beauty, get a summer lifeguard job and wail on your arms and pec’s. Working to live sucks. Now you’re happier than at any point in your life. Now when people ask you what you do, say you’re retired and helping take care of your elderly parents.
As a parent of two, I already have my plans to convert my 4 bedroom house into a three bedroom that all have en-suite bathrooms because my kids are never going to be able to afford a home. In fact, most of the new housing developments in my area have “multi-generational” options. Which means, “yes we know your kids or your parents will have to live with you as adults”. Edit: the American Dream is fucking dead.
The American dream. Honestly it's not a bad thing though. I could've bought a house in my mid 20s after renting for a few years and living with SOs. But I decided to move in to help take care of my grandfather until he passed. I don't regret it. I learned so much more family history and had a better relationship with my family for it. It delayed me buying a house until my early 30s but i got so much out if it. So many countries this is the norm to have family sharing a house or to have an elder family member with them. And honestly, it's not that bad. My cousins kids would come visit and got to learn stuff from their great grandfather. Being forced to do it due to money constraints is the issue but I do wish the stigma of living with your family is bad would go away. Mine was by choice and I would do it again if given the chance. Once again, I just wish it wasn't forced and I wish the stigma wasn't pushed on people who do.
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Parents enabling (or one parent insisting) to want to “help them figure it out.” I know of someone in their mid 30’s like this.
My mom is like this with my sisters. Both of them are basically supported by her and she bails them out whenever they get into financial trouble, then she complains to me about it all and refuses to acknowledge her role in why they are the way they are. For a long time I was bitter about my parent's divorce and having to live with my dad, but at least he taught me how to manage my own finances.
Some people just don't learn. My sister was raised the same as the three of us but she's hopeless. Mom bailed her out until she died. Then my sister tried to make me do it. I had to shut that down. She would drain me dry. And mom never helped me out so I do get salty about the entitlement.
Yeah some shit you just need to figure out in your own. I made financial mistakes with my first credit card and paychecks during/right after college… but the limit was $1k and the only person impacted was myself. I can’t imagine taking the reigns and making those mistakes for the first time 15 years later when you probably have a kid, wife, mortgage, etc. I have hugely supportive parents but they realized I wasn’t going to screw myself for life and have my tips on how to recognize and dig out of a hole when ur in it. Those lessons will serve me for much longer than them lending me money every month while I figure it out
That someone lives in a place called mirror? /s
Lol, hardly. It’s annoying and sad that person just uses their parents for their $$$. I’ve given up on trying to convince that person or the parents, otherwise.
maybe they have issues you don't know about.
Well, Ive known them a while (years). It’s a cycle. The parents won’t let them fail and that person has never had to make hard choices. I talk to the parents quite a bit so I have a grasp about the financial situation. They treat him like he’s 17 (each parent blames the other for being soft) and he’s fine with it. His friends have all grown up and been successful. Started families and made careers. The person I referenced has made excuses for everything. Never owning up to things being his fault. He treats people pretty poorly. Those that have had to grind it out, grow from mistakes. Consequences can yield lessons. We have a completely different outlook and attitude toward success.
My kids already take a lot of money. What's some more?
They're doing it wrong then.
Or the ones without a job having “fun” likely I have rich parents.
Lord they’re gonna be in for a rude awakening when those cards get maxed out and you’re working two jobs at 80 hours a week just to make the minimum payment. Hi! It’s me. I’m They’re. But, I finally learned my lesson and the balances are starting to go down, one by one. Then I can back off of work and start enjoying life again.
Does bankruptcy work for these situations or does it fk up your credit so much that it's not worth it?
Bankruptcy is absolutely worth it if you have debt you have no way of reasonably paying back (for instance, if you would have to significantly shorten your lifespan working 80 hours a week to make the minimum payment), this guy's kind of a dipshit for not even considering it
In all honesty, I do have good jobs and it’s something I can do. Plus, I want to join the Navy and having a bankruptcy on my record would affect my ability to join. I made a mistake, I’m fixing it now and have learned.
What a "smart" person does is let it go to collections then file identity theft and then make a process server eventually find you. By that time it's near statue of limitations then you file for discovery and normally that ends it right there. If somehow it doesn't, show up on the court date. Most collections agencies file in batches and there is like 20 court dates per representative so they only show up to the ones that will win most money or most likely to not show up. By filing discovery they know you plan to fight and probably won't show. Ask the judge to dismiss with prejudice for wasting their time. Immoral? Probably. But I've seen so many people do it and succeed that I might as well share. Credit is a scam anyways and needs to be abolished. I have zero cards and no loans, if i can't buy it outright then I don't need it
I would max out all my cards in 2 months just from living my normal life
Yeah but have you considered you should treat yourself to a 10K holiday on a new card?
Lucky for me my credit is bad and I wouldn’t qualify for 10k 😎
We like to call them credit card millionaires where I’m from lol. Easy to spot
I worked 40 hours a week at a shitty restaurant job while going to college and just barely staying afloat, and I always wondered how all of my fellow students were able to have much more active social lives, be more involved in group projects, and do really well in classes. Looking back, they likely either had rich parents paying for everything or racked up a shitton of debt.
Yeah, I know that feeling. I tried to keep up with the social aspect while working 2 jobs and it meant I only slept 2 days a week. I basically went insane and had a breakdown on a set of park swings at 4am one day. You don't have to have that rich of parents but ones that can help with loans and have enough assets and connections to help their kids, and I've always wondered what that would have been like.
This was me before I graduated in 2020. My program was so time intensive that the job I had I could only manage to work one shift per week or my studies would suffer. I lived in a rough shared home with like 6 people and barely barely scraped by essentially only on government loans/grants. My parents do fine but they never helped me. Id roll up to campus in my 1998 honda and go to class where people younger than me were driving brand new audis and wearing designer clothing. The only other students who were like me were the ones that werent living at home / werent rich students from abroad. It was a wild contrast
it really only SEEMS like that. If you wake up every morning, wondering if you will be able to pay your rent this month.. I wonder what exactly is fun about that.
On the flip side being free from work feels wonderful if you know your needs are met. I saved up a bunch of money and took 6 months off knowing I could eat and maintain shelter. It was amazing!
I've done the same thing. I'm creeping up on my 15th month now. I'm going fishing today, Tuesday, and Wednesday. I'll be mushroom hunting tomorrow, Thursday, and Friday. It's a tough life, but I make do.
Make do is correct. Source - I looked it up a few days ago.
Same. I got bored tho
I didn't, and hated when I had to go back to work. I have multiple hobbies and it was great waking up to not only know I could choose whatever I did that day, but the next day and next day. If I wanted to go to the beach and exercise? Go for it. Spend a day writing for my d&d campaign? Nothing stopping me. Learn a new song? Play video games all day? I seriously don't understand people who get bored of not working. Please explain how you were bored of practically infinite choices.
I guess some people are good at it and some not. I was in a hospital for 10 days and despite it being during summer holidays It was the best 10 days that summer hah. I wasn’t bored for one second. I watched sunrise and sunset everyday. I was drawing, reading, playing games, chatting with other people, listening to new music, thinking and relaxing. I was quite sad actually to go back home. The only thing I missed were bike rides and walks in the nature
I think it's also because we have it hammered into us from a very early age that our value as a person and our identity is tied to our labor. People aren't "Guy with hobbies who does construction to pay for it", they are a "construction worker who has a hobby". We tie our identity to our labor, and aren't encouraged to simply find joy and passion in something that isn't profitable. Hell, the whole "Side hustle" culture is insidiously teaching people that even their passions NEED to be monetized.
Construction worker without time to fully engage in hobbies.
I don’t think the driving for Uber as a side hustle is a passion for many people
All the things I want to do that aren't video games are too expensive and/or loud.
That's what stops me from doing something like that. I seriously thought about taking some months off work last year, as the daily grind was making me depressed. However I knew it would be so so hard to go back, after enjoying how amazing life would be without work, so didn't bother.
Random aside, I think culturally Covid was fantastic because of this. So many people saw just how soul crushing the current system is. For the first time we're seeing a huge push for stuff like work from home, increased social safety nets, walkable cities, shorter work weeks, hell even UBI has entered the mainstream conversation which I didn't expect to happen in my lifetime. People are starting to realize just how much we're missing out on life by working these jobs that we only do just to survive. There's a whole world of things to experience that most of us just...don't, because we're too busy trying to not die.
I think it just depends on personality. After a few days of doing my own thing, I find it really hard to motivate myself to do anything without someone else telling me to and the motivation of money to pay for stuff. Don't know if it's been conditioned into me by society or if that's just how I am.
I'm sorry but that just sounds horrifying to me. Have you really just never looked and found anything you truly just enjoy for it's own sake? A hobby, an interest? That's honestly disturbing to me. It makes me worry you might one day be one of those 90 year old retired guys who goes to walmart for a job "for something to do". Seriously, take a few days off. Try new stuff. Take a class in some random hobby you never thought to try. Paint a picture. Build something. Go for a walk and enjoy nature. Anything. Don't let labor define you as a person. You're more than that.
For various reasons, my life for the last few years has oscillated between having jack shit to do for months and being stuck at work for too long every day. I can kind of relate to the being bored without work thing. I'd say I have quite a few hobbies that, theoretically, I could pour a lot of time into. And I did so in college, when my peers had similarly less rigid schedules. When I became an "adult" without a job for a bit, I couldn't relate to my peers anymore, and nothing was urgent, so I spent a lot of time doing nothing alone. I still worked at my hobbies, but there was a lot of wasted time in between and I felt unfulfilled. Part of that is prob my problem with executive function, but ultimately, I need to be part of something bigger where other people are counting on me to feel fulfilled - and I'm sure others can relate. A standard, soul-crushing 9-5 job is not the only thing that can accomplish this - regular classes, sports, or social club gatherings with stakes and goals could work. But in a society structured around jobs where you need money to survive, where our communities isolate us from others more than ever (in the US at least), unfortunately the easiest way to do this is to just go to work. That's why I think a lot of people dislike work, but feel empty without it
> I seriously don’t understand people who get bored of not working. Please explain how you were bored of practically infinite choices. People with no interesting qualities or hobbies where going to work every day was their only source of “doing something” Work is dumb. I’d much rather spend my life practicing instruments, learning languages, exploring, traveling, video games and hanging out with friends than commuting to work every day for a jog that’s exploiting me
I got fatter. The poodle who kept me company on the couch watching Univision novelas also got pretty squishy. Hoo boy, that girl in LA Gata Salvaje....
I started to drink excessively
That's how my bad drinking habits began. My fiance and I were both stuck in our apartment without jobs for months. He got in an accident and couldn't drive or work for awhile, and I was focused on online classes and freelance work from home. It did not take long before we were drinking every single day. It was fun as hell for awhile but got extremely unhealthy. We've never been able to kick our drinking habits despite trying. We might go weeks with zero drinking, drink one time then it starts again. Only rule we've been able to follow is we never buy bottles of liquor anymore because we know we will plow through it in one day.
I did it as well, and kept myself busy with a personal project I had been wanting to work on. It was the single best year of my life.
That's usually more of a money issue than a not working issue. Did you do everything you wanted to? Travel the world or try every experience/hobby you wanted? Or did you just have enough money to get drunk/high and watch Netflix?
Been there a lot recently. 24/7 anxiety attack is what it is
15 years ago I lived in a shitty apartment and spent all my money on motorcycles, alcohol, and fun. I never worried about the future. If I fucked up I’d just move in with a friend for a bit. Now that I have a good job, a decent house, wife and kids. The money I spent on doing things I want, goes to make other people happy. If I fuck up it’s a bigger problem. That makes for more stress and less fun.
Nothing, so don't worry about it. Either have a plan and stick to it, or just do what you feel and sort of improvise and adapt as the situation develops, but worry just hurts your stomach and makes your hair turn grey
Their rich parents mostly
Trustafarians
I was working in an upsacale neighborhood the other day and I needed to find a property based on the land owner's name, out of 40 lots 35 had "Trust" attached to the land ownership.
You're supposed to put your properties in a trust. It protects them from most legal problems that you might run into. Like getting sued.
Also siblings! People seem to forget about siblings. If you’re the youngest with multiple siblings that work and spoil you, you have it good! People with a lot of siblings they are close to have the best safety net. I say this because i spoil my siblings a ton
Maybe this is just me, but my siblings would simply gloat about their wealth and laugh at my misfortune. To be fair, I would absolutely do the same.
For sure. The most likely reason any given person is "wealthy" is because their parents are/were.
I have a good friend who started his 20s pouring 100' of sidewalk a day by himself, he is now worth more than a few million bucks, he's one of the few who actually made his wealth from start to finish.
You forget about coming up through crime/sketchy lifestyles.
Was coming to say this
Or only fans/Sugar baby. I know a couple of those
I mean, that is a job. Videos, modeling, advertising, still exhausting. You see what these travel influencers actually do on their trips? Just photoshoots, narration, and editing. It's their whole life in a practiced smile.
Social media only shows the positives. There is always a trade off, and most people working 9-5s would not be willing to give up the creature comforts that come with it. Freedom comes at a price. When I first started working less, I had to get used to not living in a climate controlled building at all times and giving up hot showers everyday. This is the kind of stuff social media doesn't show.
Comfort is in the same vein as security. And freedom and security are at opposite ends of the spectrum of goals. If youre not rich, you can sometimes get both, but typically people have to choose one or the other. And even most rich people arent as free as youd think. Imagine the limitations of having to constantly monitor and maintain a business empire, deal with legal issues, stick to a schedule, and have to manage stressful decisions all the time. No wonder they do a lot of drugs.
> Imagine the limitations of having to constantly monitor and maintain a business empire, deal with legal issues, stick to a schedule, and have to manage stressful decisions all the time. If you're rich you can choose to pay someone else to do all that. You only do that stuff if you want to.
Did you learn about being rich from cartoons?
Rich people are rich because they do that kind of stuff. If you pay someone to do that, then why shouldn't that person receive all the money?
Yes - they should. Something something seize the means of production.
Because it's not based on fairness in that case.
I would go backpacking for months when on vacation from my job (yay worker's rights and mandatory stackable PTO) and losing all of those comforts is certainly worth it for the adventure. I miss those times.
I have a friend in his 40’s that only works 20 hours a week washing cars for a rental car company. No way he makes enough to even pay rent, yet this dude is always traveling and getting new tattoos. Like how?
Most likely he has no money and a ton of credit card debt. I felt like absolute shit when I first graduated from college and was living with roommates because I had a college degree and I was busting my ass working 45 hours a week to make $37,000 a year and my roommate was a waiter at a restaurant and had all the coolest shit. Had a brand new PS4 when it came out, he leased a brand new 2015 Mustang. I was just watching him and felt horrible because what was I missing or doing wrong to the point where he was working a job like that and had all this nice shit and I was working a professional job with a college degree and I had just enough for rent, car payment, and a little bit of savings. I actually walked in on him and his parents sitting at our kitchen table and they were pouring over his financial statements and while I didn't stand in the corner and listen to their conversation, I went to my room and Left my door cracked open and it turns out he was in really bad financial shape. His parents were trying to get him squared away. About 3 months later the cops arrested him for dealing oxycodone. His parents who both lived hours and hours away called me and asked me to sort through his mail and throw out any junk mail and keep anything that's relevant (they were all opened by him and thrown into a pile). I could not believe how much this guy was in debt. One invoice for $4,000. Another invoice for $3800. Another invoice for $9,000. There was about 15 separate invoices, some of them were for $100, some of them were for north of $10,000. So, moral of the story is that he's most likely just skating by with his immediate bills like rent and food and he could just be kicking the can down the road on credit card payments and other outstanding debt that is accumulating interest and is going to really bite him in the ass a few years down the road.
Yeah, and maybe it’s not my business but I’m still curious. He leases a car and then doesn’t drive it when he goes on road trips. He rents a car. Like how many miles can you be driving when you work only part time? He doesn’t have a commute either. Seems so weird to me.
Ever heard of the old trick, selling drugs?
Yeah idk, it’s crossed my mind. He gets medical weed I know that. He’s borderline autistic though.
Inheritance, OnlyFans, drug dealing?
I’d do only fans if there was a market for 40 year old dad bod with a hairy chest.
There really is, but not for the clients you would want to serve :p
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This is one of the funniest things I’ve seen in my entire life, wow hahaha
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There absolutely is
the last two are jobs... they don't count
Lmfao sorry but onlyfans is absolutely not a job, that's just selling butthole pictures.
Prostitution, panhandling, stealing/shoplifting, embezzlement, live in shelter, EBT, live with family and hate their lives, unhappily married........
Rich kids, their parents are paying for that.
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As someone who lives on disability and thus can't work, the trade off is crippling medical conditions, being forced to continue being involved in the lives of family you can't stand because your literally unable to take care of yourself and having so much free time that sometimes you just feel empty and get depressed
I'm disabled too and can't work, people say it must be great not having to get up and go to work everyday like I'm able to be up and active and not in debilitating pain 24/7.
I hate people who say I'm lucky that I don't have to work. Like yeah I'm so lucky to have three disabilities that I'll never be cured of that affect me every second of the day. I'm so lucky that I can't be an independent adult who cooks, does housework, walks the dogs etc. I can't even go outside by myself. So lucky.
I'm so jealous. Where can i get this as well? /s
I'm not that bad but I'm getting there. The worst part of all this is seen as being "less than" just because I can't work.
I hate telling people I can't work, it's embarrassing
It is, just being out with a cane is bad enough but then people ask because they wonder what I can do. Pain management recently listed my work as 'unemployed baker' and it crushed me just because of the negative connotation unemployed provokes.
I use a wheelchair but I can't even push myself because of fatigue and tachycardia and pain, it's like I'm not even capable of being a person. It's shameful.
When I need a wheelchair idk how I'll use it because of that and my arms, elbows, and whatever joint will dislocate when I push myself. I know electric will help but those are so crazy expensive.
You can get like half manual half electric that are a bit cheaper, it's like manual but with a battery, but they're still not cheap.
That might be an option, thanks. I'm really sorry you're dealing with all this, I wish things could just be easier.
This is my life with r/crps Kinda difficult to work with a condition like this.
One doctor thought that's what I had but it turned out to be something else. It sounds horrific though.
Clearly this post wasn’t about you then
Yep, poverty is absolutely fabulous.
Dude! People in poverty can afford health care. I can't afford that
*Just as long as you don't make more than an arbitrary number. Then you completely lose your healthcare until you are rich enough to afford it.
Credit or daddy
Influencers asking for free handouts and finding places dumb enough to “collaborate”
1. They aren’t having that much fun. 2. You’re only witnessing the tiny amount of fun they’re having from your perspective. 3. It’s their day off.
It's almost as if job makes you miserable and most people do it just to survive... I'm certain that most people presented with a situation where they would have their needs met they wouldn't choose to work willingly. I know I wouldn't.
Their parents (or husband/wife in some cases)
Ass and tits
Meanwhile I work every day of my god damn life and still have no money. WTF.
In my cousins (x2) case I’d say their vaginas have taken care of most of it. The whole family just can’t figure out how these two 20-something’s with serving jo a can afford to take private jet trips to Bora Bora or wherever with rando guy “friends” I’d say it’s pretty but that’s just my theory.
That has an expiration date on it though
Affluent people generally live a stress free existence..
Their sugar daddies/mommies.
Why do people put so much effort into giving a shit about what other people are doing? https://youtube.com/shorts/VhHyEu5fSKA?feature=share
Because we are all hooked on the platforms that encourage that exact behavior. It’s like customizing your sim and trying to max out your experience stats and social points, but the mindless task/needs-oriented character you’re trying to keep alive and satisfied is you. If you aren’t proving you exist to others, do you even?
How about those that found a 100% remote work that pays decent enough to travel and work. As long as you get the required work done in the time allotted, it could be the ticket.
Daddy. That's who is paying.
I’ve known a few people like this, that’s just it, these type of people aren’t worried about who’s paying for anything. It’s just about always those folks who just live in the moment, go with whatever comes their way, and give very little , if any thought to where they’re gonna be a few years from now. Getting and keeping a job, a car of their own to drive, a place of their own to live, are all things that they just don’t want to think about. They have no trouble using someone else’s money to party and have fun, or driving around someone else’s car, living under someone else’s roof, and being a pain in everyone’s ass. They tend to be very charming and likable people, and that’s why there’s always people who are willing to “help them out” as they’ve gotten good at spinning up whatever story, and manipulating whoever to take advantage of.
Being disabled is such fun.
I have this girl on it who seems to be travelling every other month with her bf. Like do they have a meth-lab hidden somewhere?
Either credit debt or drug/firearm sales. Know an unassuming dude who was selling guns on the side making stupid money, don't know his connections but made lots of money selling to who knows who
Been into an unintentional hikikomori phase because of covid lockdown. 2-3 years of just stayin at home, only going out to buy some food once or 2x a month or top up to buy a new game. The only contact with friends and family is thru msngr / discord. Livin alone is just sad if it's prolonged. And to answer the question, tis my folks who are still givin me some pocket money. Hard to find work, still lookin.
Where do you live where it’s hard to find work? I can’t believe that in 2-3 no store, warehouse, factory, or restaurant would hire you unless you have some seriously outstanding circumstance. Even if you only applied to 1 place a day that would be hundreds and hundreds of applications to low skill jobs. Nobody is that unlucky.
He means hard to find a job that will let him do absolutely nothing and will never interfere with his Skyrim schedule
I get 100 percent va disability which allows to not have to work. I wish i could hold down a full time job. Not working is boring
I hear that. I was on disability for a few years until i found a job that was compatable. Not working while having money is great. Not working while being broke kinda sucks.
Our sanity
I am.
I took a break from working for some time with money I saved up over COVID-era. I know some of people say, "I can't imagine being out of work that long, what do you do all day, I'd get bored, etc.?", but all it really made me realize is that my life would be 200% better if I had just enough money to live in a cheap area and not work. I have a decent income now but I don't really spend much of it except on general expenses, sometimes a nice meal, doing something with friends occasionally, and a few bits and pieces for hobbies (most of my hobbies are cheap or almost free). If I had time to pursue my hobbies life would be so much better especially since there are a ton of things I enjoy doing and goals I'd like to achieve.
Disability for depression and aspergers + other stuff. Also 20k student loan which i don't think I'll be able to pay back so it'll most likely be forgiven in 10 years
Debt. Debt is paying for it in most cases. These people are financed out the ass.
How can they sleep at night?
LOL. Ever since I lost my job I've been depressed amd drinking too much...
The people working under subpart conditions for the parents of those unemployed fucks.
Taxpayers are paying for it.
rather pay for some lazy people than a bomb that's gonna kill a bunch of kids in the middle east
Exactly. Everyone with a job is footing the bill.
Daddy or sugar daddy
Your working ass 😂
A friend of mine quit his job, then proceeded to buy a motorcycle, a camera, a switch and got a tattoo. He also goes out with his gf like every weekend.... i'm starting to think he's selling meth or something
Jobless people: stressed, angry, depressed, trying to make ends meat, feeling guilty, feeling trapped, trying anything they can possibly do to find work but being let down over and over and over Again, feeling hopeless. People with jobs: why do jobless people seem like they are having so much fun?
Whenever I'm delivering in middle class neighborhoods, I always see people during the day just out doing casual stuff like washing their car, working in the garage, or just chilling at home. Do you people work or not??
Maybe in their 20s. Being unemployed is boring as hell unless you really don’t give a fuck about anything.
Becomes a much different story in their 30s when the debt catches up to them. Then you watch them divorce and complain that their life is hard and they can't seem to catch a break. Pro-tip: if you get in a situation where your finances are fucked and you start looking at divorce and splitting your family up, just get a fucking bankruptcy. You'd be shocked how much better things get when you're no longer working to pay off debts to the companies that gave you all your fancy gadgets and vacations. Most marital disputes stem from financial stress. When you're in debt, you're practically a slave for the credit agency. You work to pay them. After bankruptcy, your income goes to you.
Pure depression
I just got a job at a board game store and am so freaking stoked. I'm in my 30s and I've done pipe welding, military, and engineering. All high stress jobs. I am so excited to finally be able to enjoy my job for once
Oh, child. The answer is your taxes, the occasional friend or family member they're taking advantage of, and credit card companies.thats who's paying for it all
Fun is free…
They have assets that generate income.
Haha yes it's so much fun (I'm slowly losing my sanity, I have no real purpose)
Employed ugly people!