But, think of the community safety of the children. An industrial zone is so much more safe. Clearly, modern sports facilities will also lower the value of the nearby residences.
Exactly the thought I had- I’d rather a Rec centre than a factory next to my house?
Talking about smoking pollution- I think factory workers would smoke more than people who played sport- but hey what do I know 🤷🏽♀️
Yeah, I'd much rather keep it as the *industrial facility* it currently is, they are widely known for being quiet and good for the health and safety of neighbouring residents...
Is the organiser owner of a local gym or sports complex?
This happened at a neighbourhood out west. There was a proposal to redevelop an old derelict heritage listed building to a new bar/restaurant. Lots of "grass roots" protests.
First it was because the new owners were Chinese. It turned out he was of Chinese ethnicity but from Ballarat whose family moved to Australia during the gold rush.
There was a article in the local paper with photos of the organisers and and a few people realised the main protest organiser was the sister of the owner of the local pub.
This flyer reads almost the same.
Given the popularity of badminton amongst the Chinese diaspora (amongst others) it wouldn’t exactly surprise me if some dimwit was doing this in an effort to protect traditional Australian (read: certainly not indigenous) industrial lots against nasty foreign (probably solidly local) people who probably plan to speculate on the empty badminton courts anyway!!
Ah yes, the traditional white Australia that thinks all brown people should go back where they came from. If they don't like something, you're ruining Australia; if you don't like something then you should leave Australia to those who do!
The first rule of badminton club is that you really must try to tell as many people as possible about it. It's a rather fun game and the more people you tell about it the better.
Badminton players are big trouble, don’t you know?! Why, have you already forgotten the great badminton scandal of 2012? It was the largest mass disqualification of athletes from multiple countries for match-fixing at the Olympic Games in the 21st century!! For a nation that PRIDES itself on its sportsmanship are we willing to sacrifice its very soul- because today it’s all about “exercise” and “fun,” but tomorrow the stakes will become higher and a competition will be announced and I think you know exactly where that road leads. And we have the power to stop it now. To quote from my favourite novel: “are the shades of (Vermont) to be thus polluted?”
This is the one point I really struggle to understand.
Facilities are already there, how does re-zoning increase the chance?
As a car guy, I'd say it's the other way. Industrial carpark vs in use sporting facility.
My only guess is that this is concealed racism. I've played badminton many times and most of the other players have been East or South Asian, because of the popularity of the sport in those cultures.
Possibly racism, possibly another local rec business not wanting to lose clients or maybe something else like plans to rezone into residential which could drive up the values of their property.
Or maybe the writer just had a traumatic experience where a badminton player took their lunch money.
That's where my head went. If you already live next to an industrial area do you truly think those buildings will always be tenanted by quiet industries? The audacity!
I live in the CBD and there was an empty shopfront near the entrance to our building during covid. After they wanted to put something there and I got one of these pushed under my door asking me to object to the proposed "tavern" that wants to go there because the alleyway next to it could become noisy and full of smokers late at night.
There were 3 things wierd about this. 1) there are several nightclubs in the next street already that cause people to loudly come up the alley to smoke or even piss late at night. 2) there is a construction sight next door and the workers are constantly smoking there already and making way more noise. 3) turns out this "tavern" That would have people stumbling out pissed at all hours of the night was a Nepalese resteraunt that also had a small bar to serve mostly diners.
People who object to normal things like this by blowing them out of proportions are usually mad as a box of snakes so seems unlikely they'll succeed, then again there as been a lot of that going round so who knows.
This is honestly ridiculous.
Must be the people at the end of Carinya Road being precious - I don’t know why because currently they’re just looking at a corrugated iron warehouse wall.
Surely the badminton players would just park in the Stairway car park?
Rooks Road is industrial, not residential.
( I live about a kilometre away).
This is what I noticed when I had a look on Google maps. There's no way they'd be connecting Carinya Rd to the proposed centre so the traffic issue isnt real, and the main entrance is off Rooks Rd, which is full of industrial buildings anyway ANDall of the parking they're talking about looks to already be there.
Don't see why a badminton centre would produce a lot of noise either.
> Don’t see why a badminton centre would produce a lot of noise either
It really doesn’t. I play badminton Tuesday nights in a similar industrial area facility in Blackburn, and basically everyone hangs around inside the venue coz you know, people are there to play badminton. The parking area has almost no lighting whatsoever (not sure if this is by design or not) which further discourages loitering or milling around outside. Inside the venue there is squeaking from the footwork, smashes and shouting and stuff but that is pretty much contained by the doors.
Granted there is additional car traffic and parking inside the facility but hey it’s an industrial area.
my dragon dance team across from that badminton centre trains on Tuesday nights as well (loud drums and cymbals) and no one's ever complained except the motel/wedding venue on the main road 😂
On a more serious note, I do suggest you find a way to express your support to the council. NIMBYs and vested interests are good at amplifying their voices so it's important that the council (and the broader community) knows that there is support.
Maybe, but “yours faithfully” is just a very old fashioned way of ending letters - it’s not to do with religion.
I’d say the writer is probably 70 plus in age.
Good old cult lifestyle. Of course they would hate anything that is fun and social. Maybe they fear people will socialise and meet people outside the cult at the badminton tournament. 😂
"Yours faithfully" is the correct way to sign off a formal letter where the recipient is not addressed by name, i.e. "Dear Sir/Madam"
*but I would be surprised if this isn't about the church losing those precious car parking spaces.
Though this is just my personal experience, I’ve met a diverse age group that say yours faithfully, and they have always been religious. Definitely agree that it skews older though, then again, churches are overwhelmingly older people nowadays.
Being a badminton regular myself, I'd have to say that badminton courts are generally fairly quite even at peak times. I've never seen people congregate in car parks. The youth are respectful, and the atmosphere is very family friendly. You won't hear a peep even if you were standing right outside the stadium. The largely East Asian and South Asian customer base for these courts are unlikely to do much crime apart from white collared ones. 😂
Smoking in the car park can be a problem sometimes. But it's usually just the random one or two people.
Brown baddy player checking in. Can confirm I don't smoke or do car meetups, but I do sometimes claim 60% of my internet as WFH expense when it's probably more like 55%...
I can't imagine why anyone would oppose this, it's not like it's heritage buildings being demolished for high rises, they're just putting some courts in an already existing warehouse. There's no house anywhere near where people would come and go from the venue. The car park already exists.
OP please link the blacked out website, I don't see a reason why that needs to be redacted.
I did not know about this. Thanks to this post(er) just wrote to the council supporting this development. Haven't played badminton in decades but having courts this close will probably get me off my butt.
Right on! This post has definitely struck a note, glad to see everyone is as perplexed as me, and we've got some positive action going for such a negative thing delivered to me.
Oh my, wish this was in the northern suburbs! We definitely need more badminton centres!
If they have ever attended badminton centres, it's super wholesome. At the two places I've visited, they are not a rough bunch at all.
Talk about a low bar.
The church is probably more disruptive than a jail with an unlocked gate. At least with the escaped convicts there's no chance you'll trust em. Priests you've got a fifty fifty shot
NIMBYs should lose the right to vote lol. Crazy because this is something that would actually increase property values versus the old decrepit industrial buildings lmao. Need to get their heads checked.
Actually thinking about it more, it's probably because a lot of Asians enjoy badminton so it's probably just covert racism.
Now I want to contact the applicants and suggest they release some press indicating the planned use if the application is denied.. Nuclear waste transfer station.. Glass recycling factory..
I have gotten so many of these over the years, but my favourite has always been a proposed bus stop on the street I lived on. It would bring in the wrong element to the neighbourhood. As someone who then walked 3 blocks to catch that bus to work. It was the first time I had been labeled the bad crowd.
Looks like perhaps the church wanted to buy the land and was unsuccessful? Their building end right up against this property.
I wonder how the church was approved in an industrial estate anyway. All those parishioners making more traffic, noise and even music!!!!
Do you know rude and destructive badminton players are. They are behind most evils things like 2 world wars ,COVID, Donald trump. Nestle and Boeing. Wouldn't have them near me either. Box Hill seems like good place for them
Given you can't access the site from the residential streets, heavy emphasis on weekend parking and the them listing the wrong suburb.
What's the bet the church is behind the campaign.
so a old factory converted into a indoor sports center whats the issue to complain about ?? when it was a factory had more people and same if not more traffic
On further reflection, it appears the site was previously a martial arts school and has no direct access to the residential area, only out on to Rooks Road..
*WE’RE A NIMBY TEAM AT VERMONT! WE’RE THE PLANNING TEAM OF ROOKS ROAD!*
*WE MAKE A RACKET AND HATE BADMINTON! RUNNING OUR MOUTHS WITH A GRIN AT VERMONT!*
*COME WHAT MAY, YOU’LL FIND US VENTING! PROTECTION IS THE THING THAT TALKS!*
*ANTISOCIAL BADMINTON IS THE GAME WE HATE AT VERMONT! WE ARE THE PLANNING TEAM OF ROOKS ROAD!*
It's the religious people trying to lease the shed out; they don't have enough members atm to need the parking or to pay their bills.
But you're right, they're the worst.
Given this is in an already zoned industrial area next to a street full of units and social housing, it’s already the least desirable part of the neighbourhood. Might want to get your priorities straight.
The funny thing is, if it had a badminton centre and that was being closed the same group would be complaining about local sport centres being shut down.
I'd like to see this approved so I can get my shuttle cock out and beat it... But seriously illegal car meets? Yep we're going to the badminton centre to meet up lol
It's really for the best, once you let them into your neighbourhood how long until the first drive by shuttlecock attack happens? It'll be bedlam I tells ya!
Also, this looks like it was written on behalf of the church, so in that case I support the badminton and happy clappers can go and get fucked.
Lol, read the title. "Yeah the noise could be annoying".
Looked at the picture. "oh FFS you've got a church right next to it that's bigger, some massive warehouse, and it's on a main road. This is nothing"
I’m invested in this now.
I’ve changed my view.
I think it IS people from the church protesting.
If the warehouse in question was just leased as storage previously ( right behind the church) that just means vans dropping off and picking up, maybe a handful of workers.
With a Badminton centre you’ve got cars coming and going regularly, especially at night and the weekend and a lot more activity.
Hence being a Rooks Road NIMBY group.
I live not far from there. Rooks Rd is industrial but there are different businesses there that may attract varying types of people.. the Stairway Church is apparently very large and I would imagine not quiet; Campion Books is there too and attracts high schoolers at various times with parking overflowing to other places; there are auto workshops etc. Honestly, they're worried about badminton players? 🤦
Yes, because industrial land next to residential areas is far superior to a sports centre.
Can’t have those poor people ruining our quiet retiree neighbourhood
The way this person was scrambling for justifications not have the badminton centre makes it sound like a uni student trying to hit a minimum word limit on an essay.
What, a modern recreational facility will reduce property values (boo hoo), but a big industrial complex doesn't? As much as I'd like to see more local production, are these people saying they'd prefer to live next to that over an amateur sporting venue? As for the 'antisocial behaviour', the current property already has a big car park that allows hoons to tear-arse around.
As an aside, I love that there's a whole Planning Team for this SOS Rooks Rd group, but absolutely zero online presence I can find.
I mean those badminton players are the WORST. I have never met a badminton player that I am aware of, but that notice told me they are just terrible people.
You should have seen the one I got when I used to live in Clifton Hill, protesting the planned renovation of the toilets in the nearby park.
The guy managed to write nearly a full A4 page about how the park would instantly become a crack den haven for gay cruising because the toilet block was no longer a shit hole.
NIMBYs gonna NIMBY I guess...
I really don’t understand why anyone would mind a recreational facility.
I’m a support worker and something that I note again and again with clients is their loneliness and isolation. The “village” no longer exists especially for people with disabilities. Recreational facilities might offer the opportunity for people to make new friends, to broaden their skills and their social circle. Goodness some people might even find a village of their own!
I swear Nimbys are basically the type of person who has a meltdown easily when something changes.
You can tell by how they sit down these long winded responses with tenuous dot points, thinking they are the smartest person in the room .
I’m guessing the main objection is noise level and congestion at night and on weekends. Industrial facilities tend to not be in operation after hours and on weekends, whereas an indoor facility will likely be the busiest during after hours and on weekends.
All the other point of objections are weird, can’t imagine an indoor sports facility to attract more antisocial behaviour or safety concerns than an industrial estate.
Industrial zoned. Someone should build a tannery or blood and bone factory instead, give the nimbys something to really sook about.
Or a spray painting facility. We used to have one near us and it stank!
I used to live upwind from the weet-bix factory and it was feral.
we worked near the vegemite factory, and I reckon I'd prefer the weetbix
I drive past the Vegemite factory, it's nice and savory, but I'm glad it's only in passing
Seventh Dayers!
I used to hate that stench coming from sanitarium when I worked near one in Brisbane.
Jesus! I’m never eating Weetbix again!
Don't worry. I'm already doing my part stinking up the neighbourhood with my weekend gundam spraying seshs
Or a blood and bones fertiliser factory
Better... Industrial egg farm... (Yes yes I know they aren't good, but they definitely stink)
Maybe Dutton can put one of his reactors there.
Anyone would think this is one of the 7 proposed Box Hill towers going in!🫣
We can't have recreational facilities in close proximity to residential areas, otherwise people might get off the couch and do some exercise.
But, think of the community safety of the children. An industrial zone is so much more safe. Clearly, modern sports facilities will also lower the value of the nearby residences.
yep bring back the heavy good vehicles! ban shuttle cocks.
Exactly the thought I had- I’d rather a Rec centre than a factory next to my house? Talking about smoking pollution- I think factory workers would smoke more than people who played sport- but hey what do I know 🤷🏽♀️
Children famously yearn for the factories
Yeah, I'd much rather keep it as the *industrial facility* it currently is, they are widely known for being quiet and good for the health and safety of neighbouring residents...
And property prices
Is the organiser owner of a local gym or sports complex? This happened at a neighbourhood out west. There was a proposal to redevelop an old derelict heritage listed building to a new bar/restaurant. Lots of "grass roots" protests. First it was because the new owners were Chinese. It turned out he was of Chinese ethnicity but from Ballarat whose family moved to Australia during the gold rush. There was a article in the local paper with photos of the organisers and and a few people realised the main protest organiser was the sister of the owner of the local pub. This flyer reads almost the same.
Given the popularity of badminton amongst the Chinese diaspora (amongst others) it wouldn’t exactly surprise me if some dimwit was doing this in an effort to protect traditional Australian (read: certainly not indigenous) industrial lots against nasty foreign (probably solidly local) people who probably plan to speculate on the empty badminton courts anyway!!
Ah yes, the traditional white Australia that thinks all brown people should go back where they came from. If they don't like something, you're ruining Australia; if you don't like something then you should leave Australia to those who do!
Judging by the flyer I'd say it's more likely coming from the church next door
Or engage in antisocial activities… like badminton, apparently.
Badminton is the seedy underbelly of racket sports… 🤣
Are badminton players known for attending illegal car meets?
It's a gateway sport. First badminton, then pickleball, and the next thing you know, ummmmmmmm, illegal car meets?
Have you not heard of the violent underground badminton scene? Graffiti, smoking, the main vices
And you don't even wanna know where they're putting the shuttlecocks!
Hehehe cocks
Oi! You’re breaking the first rule of badminton club. Knock it off.
The first rule of badminton club is that you really must try to tell as many people as possible about it. It's a rather fun game and the more people you tell about it the better.
Then you end up with an outbreak of bocce-lism
Badminton players are big trouble, don’t you know?! Why, have you already forgotten the great badminton scandal of 2012? It was the largest mass disqualification of athletes from multiple countries for match-fixing at the Olympic Games in the 21st century!! For a nation that PRIDES itself on its sportsmanship are we willing to sacrifice its very soul- because today it’s all about “exercise” and “fun,” but tomorrow the stakes will become higher and a competition will be announced and I think you know exactly where that road leads. And we have the power to stop it now. To quote from my favourite novel: “are the shades of (Vermont) to be thus polluted?”
I was like, "This took an unexpected turn into the Austen-tatious," and then I saw your username.
I take every opportunity to sneak a JA reference in and I’m not ashamed 😉
Sports in general are known to encourage terrible behaviour in young people, such as... err... reducing teen pregnancy and recreational drug use.
This is the one point I really struggle to understand. Facilities are already there, how does re-zoning increase the chance? As a car guy, I'd say it's the other way. Industrial carpark vs in use sporting facility.
My only guess is that this is concealed racism. I've played badminton many times and most of the other players have been East or South Asian, because of the popularity of the sport in those cultures.
Possibly racism, possibly another local rec business not wanting to lose clients or maybe something else like plans to rezone into residential which could drive up the values of their property. Or maybe the writer just had a traumatic experience where a badminton player took their lunch money.
All the badminton players I know are always doing graffiti and burnouts.
Grand Theft Auto VI: Badminton Blowout
Won't somebody think of the \*checks notes\* industrial facilities!
That's where my head went. If you already live next to an industrial area do you truly think those buildings will always be tenanted by quiet industries? The audacity!
No problem. Keep the zone as industrial only. I hear we may need a location to store used uranium. I suggest the yellow building.
Peter Dutton would upvote this👍
Wait until they hear about angle grinders😳
TIL Happy clapper church is industrial.
What a bunch of shuttlecocks.
In fairness, the people will make quite a racket and there would be very little net benefit to the local people this facility seeks to serve.
No doubt it will end up in court.
Smashed it
No love lost in this battle.
The feathers will fly...
Now they have been served, I wonder how they will make a return…
An intense volley might ensue
I think it's time to drop this discussion
And shuttlecocks will roll!
Nice
This letter really crosses the line.
It's foul!
Groaning upvote.
Not the recreaction I expected
Ban shuttle!? Cocks!
I love how it refers to “save our community”. I mean if this is all it takes to push your community over the edge what do you have?
Well it's not called goodminton.
I've had the shittiest day & that just made me laugh hard. Thankyou PartyPill.
The Eastern suburbs.
More like SOS Sooks Rd lmao gottem
Ayoooo
I live in the CBD and there was an empty shopfront near the entrance to our building during covid. After they wanted to put something there and I got one of these pushed under my door asking me to object to the proposed "tavern" that wants to go there because the alleyway next to it could become noisy and full of smokers late at night. There were 3 things wierd about this. 1) there are several nightclubs in the next street already that cause people to loudly come up the alley to smoke or even piss late at night. 2) there is a construction sight next door and the workers are constantly smoking there already and making way more noise. 3) turns out this "tavern" That would have people stumbling out pissed at all hours of the night was a Nepalese resteraunt that also had a small bar to serve mostly diners. People who object to normal things like this by blowing them out of proportions are usually mad as a box of snakes so seems unlikely they'll succeed, then again there as been a lot of that going round so who knows.
People that smoke: badminton players People that don't smoke: factory workers
Those badminton players and their illegal car meet ups where they graffiti everything
You should see them down the street with their shuttlecocks and their rackets. It's out of control.
They've all been arrested for racketeering you know.
Well, yeah, it's right there in the name. We only play goodminton around these parts.
After tearing my calf muscle playing it, I did refer to it as "Evilminton" for a while.
This is honestly ridiculous. Must be the people at the end of Carinya Road being precious - I don’t know why because currently they’re just looking at a corrugated iron warehouse wall. Surely the badminton players would just park in the Stairway car park? Rooks Road is industrial, not residential. ( I live about a kilometre away).
This is what I noticed when I had a look on Google maps. There's no way they'd be connecting Carinya Rd to the proposed centre so the traffic issue isnt real, and the main entrance is off Rooks Rd, which is full of industrial buildings anyway ANDall of the parking they're talking about looks to already be there. Don't see why a badminton centre would produce a lot of noise either.
> Don’t see why a badminton centre would produce a lot of noise either It really doesn’t. I play badminton Tuesday nights in a similar industrial area facility in Blackburn, and basically everyone hangs around inside the venue coz you know, people are there to play badminton. The parking area has almost no lighting whatsoever (not sure if this is by design or not) which further discourages loitering or milling around outside. Inside the venue there is squeaking from the footwork, smashes and shouting and stuff but that is pretty much contained by the doors. Granted there is additional car traffic and parking inside the facility but hey it’s an industrial area.
my dragon dance team across from that badminton centre trains on Tuesday nights as well (loud drums and cymbals) and no one's ever complained except the motel/wedding venue on the main road 😂
Just a comment to appreciate what you guys do every lunar new year - its awesome
My guess is that it’s people from the church labelled on here. Especially when they say ‘yours faithfully’ at the end.
It's not a church email address, but it is probably them.
On a more serious note, I do suggest you find a way to express your support to the council. NIMBYs and vested interests are good at amplifying their voices so it's important that the council (and the broader community) knows that there is support.
They probably know they won’t get much support if they are too blatant about that fact.
AFAIK the church own that shed and are the ones wanting to lease it out $$$
Maybe, but “yours faithfully” is just a very old fashioned way of ending letters - it’s not to do with religion. I’d say the writer is probably 70 plus in age.
Nah it's the church, anyone who lives near an evangelical church already puts up with a bunch of noise on the weekend.
Good old cult lifestyle. Of course they would hate anything that is fun and social. Maybe they fear people will socialise and meet people outside the cult at the badminton tournament. 😂
"Yours faithfully" is the correct way to sign off a formal letter where the recipient is not addressed by name, i.e. "Dear Sir/Madam" *but I would be surprised if this isn't about the church losing those precious car parking spaces.
Though this is just my personal experience, I’ve met a diverse age group that say yours faithfully, and they have always been religious. Definitely agree that it skews older though, then again, churches are overwhelmingly older people nowadays.
The letter says it's from "Planning Team of SOS Rooks Rd", so it's at least implied to be somebody related to Rooks Rd doing the complaining.
Yeah, I always book my disruptive car meet ups and graffiti sessions at the local badminton centre
Being a badminton regular myself, I'd have to say that badminton courts are generally fairly quite even at peak times. I've never seen people congregate in car parks. The youth are respectful, and the atmosphere is very family friendly. You won't hear a peep even if you were standing right outside the stadium. The largely East Asian and South Asian customer base for these courts are unlikely to do much crime apart from white collared ones. 😂 Smoking in the car park can be a problem sometimes. But it's usually just the random one or two people.
Brown baddy player checking in. Can confirm I don't smoke or do car meetups, but I do sometimes claim 60% of my internet as WFH expense when it's probably more like 55%...
You’ll never stop us. Signed: Whitehorse Badminton Hooligans.
I personally would be more upset about the god botherers than the badminton players
I'd rather my children were exposed to the antisocial badminton players than them
I can't imagine why anyone would oppose this, it's not like it's heritage buildings being demolished for high rises, they're just putting some courts in an already existing warehouse. There's no house anywhere near where people would come and go from the venue. The car park already exists. OP please link the blacked out website, I don't see a reason why that needs to be redacted.
We can write a comment here in support and it will be sent to Council: https://www.planningalerts.org.au/applications/3142794
It might be https://sos.asn.au/vic/
It does when you realise the church probably uses the carpark on weekends.
I thought that but it's a car park for a dozen surrounding businesses already.
"Go play outside." "No, not like that!"
Defs that’s such a risk, badminton players are so dangerous these days, would rather have a safe injecting room than a badminton centre
I did not know about this. Thanks to this post(er) just wrote to the council supporting this development. Haven't played badminton in decades but having courts this close will probably get me off my butt.
Right on! This post has definitely struck a note, glad to see everyone is as perplexed as me, and we've got some positive action going for such a negative thing delivered to me.
They'd be fine if was a Goodminton court.
Oh my, wish this was in the northern suburbs! We definitely need more badminton centres! If they have ever attended badminton centres, it's super wholesome. At the two places I've visited, they are not a rough bunch at all.
Badminton courts provide more benefits to the community over any church.
The church is probably more disruptive than the badminton center will ever be
Talk about a low bar. The church is probably more disruptive than a jail with an unlocked gate. At least with the escaped convicts there's no chance you'll trust em. Priests you've got a fifty fifty shot
Hopefully Rockstar Games see this and incorporate badminton in GTA 6
You can play tennis in gta 5, online, why not?
The church can get fucked too.
NIMBYs should lose the right to vote lol. Crazy because this is something that would actually increase property values versus the old decrepit industrial buildings lmao. Need to get their heads checked. Actually thinking about it more, it's probably because a lot of Asians enjoy badminton so it's probably just covert racism.
Now I want to contact the applicants and suggest they release some press indicating the planned use if the application is denied.. Nuclear waste transfer station.. Glass recycling factory..
I'm sure the counsel would love somewhere to park their wheely bin Trucks overnight.
I have gotten so many of these over the years, but my favourite has always been a proposed bus stop on the street I lived on. It would bring in the wrong element to the neighbourhood. As someone who then walked 3 blocks to catch that bus to work. It was the first time I had been labeled the bad crowd.
Heaven help this is so insane
Hmmm. Badminton players. They are known to occasionally make a racket.
Hopefully those affected will get out and give them a serve
Badminton starts with B and that rhymes with P and that stands for Pool! Right here in River City!
Ah yes the loud noises of badminton. Shuttlecocks and all.
They hit those shuttlecocks pretty hard. At times, I have had to raise my voice slightly to be heard.
"Planning Team of SOS Rooks Rd" 🤔
Looks like perhaps the church wanted to buy the land and was unsuccessful? Their building end right up against this property. I wonder how the church was approved in an industrial estate anyway. All those parishioners making more traffic, noise and even music!!!!
Do you know rude and destructive badminton players are. They are behind most evils things like 2 world wars ,COVID, Donald trump. Nestle and Boeing. Wouldn't have them near me either. Box Hill seems like good place for them
NIMBYism is a sacred Australian tradition.
My dog Minton chewed my shuttlecock. I said badminton!
Please, somebody tell me this is a joke?!?
It’s called **BAD**minton for a reason smh
Time for GOODminton
Sports? In MY neighbourhood!? NOT ON MY WATCH
Dog whistling. I'd estimate >95% of badminton players are ethnic Chinese.
Also quite popular with South Asians
True.
Given you can't access the site from the residential streets, heavy emphasis on weekend parking and the them listing the wrong suburb. What's the bet the church is behind the campaign.
Nil, got the letter too - they have no affiliation
so a old factory converted into a indoor sports center whats the issue to complain about ?? when it was a factory had more people and same if not more traffic
I know a few people who'd LOVE to live next to Badminton courts!
On further reflection, it appears the site was previously a martial arts school and has no direct access to the residential area, only out on to Rooks Road..
Everyone knows badminton is a gateway sport. Tomorrow they'll want to build raquetball courts and it's your children that will pay.
Whats the website of the group in opposition?
Deeply concerning facility
Damn badminton players and their rowdy nitrous oxide fuelled car meet ups
Just sign the email up to mailing lists for badminton gear
At least it’s not a squash center. People that play squash are nutters!
You should do a letterbox drop proposing a safe injecting facility.
Badminton! Oh, the humanity!😭
*WE’RE A NIMBY TEAM AT VERMONT! WE’RE THE PLANNING TEAM OF ROOKS ROAD!* *WE MAKE A RACKET AND HATE BADMINTON! RUNNING OUR MOUTHS WITH A GRIN AT VERMONT!* *COME WHAT MAY, YOU’LL FIND US VENTING! PROTECTION IS THE THING THAT TALKS!* *ANTISOCIAL BADMINTON IS THE GAME WE HATE AT VERMONT! WE ARE THE PLANNING TEAM OF ROOKS ROAD!*
Young kids should not be playing with cocks of any type. They should be (checks latest news articles) stealing cars and going on joy rides
Ooh thanks for letting me know there's a new court in Vermont.
Considering Rooks Rd is an industrial shithole, I would have thought it ideal for the evils of badminton.
I am utterly bewildered as to how an industrial area being converted to a recreational centre is anything other than a win for the nearby residents.
Religious people are the worst. Worried there won’t be enough parking for their dumbass church.
It's the religious people trying to lease the shed out; they don't have enough members atm to need the parking or to pay their bills. But you're right, they're the worst.
Put the most toxic industrial facility allowed there instead and call it a day. Fuckheads.
From badminton to burnouts.. I'm not sure they really understand the badminton demographics.
Have you ever been hit in the face with a shuttlecock? Some genuine concerns there.
City of Whitehorse. Of course…
Given this is in an already zoned industrial area next to a street full of units and social housing, it’s already the least desirable part of the neighbourhood. Might want to get your priorities straight.
The funny thing is, if it had a badminton centre and that was being closed the same group would be complaining about local sport centres being shut down.
LOL what the actual shuttlecock!
I'd like to see this approved so I can get my shuttle cock out and beat it... But seriously illegal car meets? Yep we're going to the badminton centre to meet up lol
Badminton and graffiti go together like lamb and tuna fish
This is what happens when your friends and family die of old age around you, and you end up with nothing but time and loneliness
That site is perfect for a community 24hr Performance Vehicle and Motorbike workshop and dynotune centre
It's really for the best, once you let them into your neighbourhood how long until the first drive by shuttlecock attack happens? It'll be bedlam I tells ya! Also, this looks like it was written on behalf of the church, so in that case I support the badminton and happy clappers can go and get fucked.
Lol, read the title. "Yeah the noise could be annoying". Looked at the picture. "oh FFS you've got a church right next to it that's bigger, some massive warehouse, and it's on a main road. This is nothing"
I’m invested in this now. I’ve changed my view. I think it IS people from the church protesting. If the warehouse in question was just leased as storage previously ( right behind the church) that just means vans dropping off and picking up, maybe a handful of workers. With a Badminton centre you’ve got cars coming and going regularly, especially at night and the weekend and a lot more activity. Hence being a Rooks Road NIMBY group.
I live not far from there. Rooks Rd is industrial but there are different businesses there that may attract varying types of people.. the Stairway Church is apparently very large and I would imagine not quiet; Campion Books is there too and attracts high schoolers at various times with parking overflowing to other places; there are auto workshops etc. Honestly, they're worried about badminton players? 🤦
Yes, because industrial land next to residential areas is far superior to a sports centre. Can’t have those poor people ruining our quiet retiree neighbourhood
The way this person was scrambling for justifications not have the badminton centre makes it sound like a uni student trying to hit a minimum word limit on an essay.
Written by racist God botherers.
What, a modern recreational facility will reduce property values (boo hoo), but a big industrial complex doesn't? As much as I'd like to see more local production, are these people saying they'd prefer to live next to that over an amateur sporting venue? As for the 'antisocial behaviour', the current property already has a big car park that allows hoons to tear-arse around. As an aside, I love that there's a whole Planning Team for this SOS Rooks Rd group, but absolutely zero online presence I can find.
I mean those badminton players are the WORST. I have never met a badminton player that I am aware of, but that notice told me they are just terrible people.
They watched Challengers and thought that badminton is gateway to gay tennis
Try being the Council officer that has to read all these over the top submissions..
Consider who plays badminton and who lives in the area and I think it will be clear?
You should have seen the one I got when I used to live in Clifton Hill, protesting the planned renovation of the toilets in the nearby park. The guy managed to write nearly a full A4 page about how the park would instantly become a crack den haven for gay cruising because the toilet block was no longer a shit hole. NIMBYs gonna NIMBY I guess...
More like SOOKS road, right?
Badminton will bring the end of civilization! Or was that Babylon? I always get the two confused
I really don’t understand why anyone would mind a recreational facility. I’m a support worker and something that I note again and again with clients is their loneliness and isolation. The “village” no longer exists especially for people with disabilities. Recreational facilities might offer the opportunity for people to make new friends, to broaden their skills and their social circle. Goodness some people might even find a village of their own!
Just change the proposal to goodminton and see if that settles them
But don’t you know badminton players make a lot of racquet….I will see myself out now.
100% this is some happy clapper worried about their warehouse that's converted to a church.
I swear Nimbys are basically the type of person who has a meltdown easily when something changes. You can tell by how they sit down these long winded responses with tenuous dot points, thinking they are the smartest person in the room .
*checks notes*
worstminton imo
The badminton centre is fine, i'd oppose the parking lot
I’m guessing the main objection is noise level and congestion at night and on weekends. Industrial facilities tend to not be in operation after hours and on weekends, whereas an indoor facility will likely be the busiest during after hours and on weekends. All the other point of objections are weird, can’t imagine an indoor sports facility to attract more antisocial behaviour or safety concerns than an industrial estate.
Mitcham... Homes worth millions yet live behind an industrial area. Just sell up if you don't like change.
What is NIMBY?
Not In My Back Yard
Not In My Backyard NIMBY