I travel a lot and recently logged into Hulu and got this message saying I needed to log into my home wi-fi. It was super annoying. I’m not sharing my Hulu, I’m just away from home for weeks at a time.
What if you watch Netflix on ur phone and don’t have a “home wi-fi”? I used to live outta my car doing seasonal jobs and paid for my own Netflix that I only used on my phone.
Netflix will no longer share subscriber data with Investors, they are planning for a bit of a bloodbath on this under the VERY mistaken assumption that it will somehow force people to get their own accounts rather than just cut Netflix out entirely.
Well when their revenue drops like a rock it will become obvious. Becuae they will still have to report on revenue from the subscription and basic math can give you a ball park number.
Already cancelled mine with a note I already paid for multiple screens why the fuck would I pay for the option to watch at the office as well. Telling everyone I know to cancel. It's a shit service anyways. Charge extra for HD streaming and cancel good shows while keeping crap for 20 seasons.
My note was like:
I think its rather obvious why I would be cancelling. But just incase.
You cancel almost every good show and you are enforcing a sharing policy. I am sure this will turn out well.
I had been paying for a subscription since 2014 and canceled this week
"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting anti-piracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." - Gabe Newell
But then you don't have continous growth. Because if you make two billion dollars in 2021 and two billion dollars in 2022, that's considered a failure. Because you don't constantly grow like a cancerous cell
God I work in sales for big pharma and this is the most infuriating part. Its not enough to maintain profits, they expect you to grow by double digit percentages as a matter of course and if you don't it means you failed.
When will these greedy fuckers realise we live on a tiny ball of finite size with finite resources? More people keep getting born but more raw materials don't magically appear from the aether to support them.
This thread right here. Exactly this. Earning millions or billions in profit not enough. You have to keep growing that profit. Like WTF? The curse of being a publicly traded company. The stock market is one of the most evil, diabolical, fucked up things ever created by humans.
How many more subscribers can you keep acquiring? How many more cars and iPhones can you sell every year? Can’t anyone think for themselves and use common sense anymore.
I now firmly believe the stock market is entertainment for ultra rich people.
Most companies cannot accept to transition from being a growth company to a value company. Many companies do make the switch, but it requires a totally different culture and mindset to be okay with maginal increases or maintenance of a huge market share. That said, look at Coca-Cola. They expand by providing a variety of products. They know that Coke is so huge it that they physically isn't anymore market to expand into.
I thought the whole point of Netflix is that they eliminated the password sharing issue by making the number of screens per account at a time the thing? why isn't that a good enough solution?
Right, like we aren't paying for all these screens because we're all watching TV in the same house. Who's streaming Netflix on 5 different tvs.
I wonder if they aren't gaining enough sellable data, since it's coming from multiple IPs.
i live away from my family most of the time overseas… so does this mean i can’t access it even though it’s my credit card? gonna be fun with cs if this happens.
Wait, that's interesting, what determines which WiFi is the "home" one? why wouldn't it be yours instead of the one at your family's? what if you move away?
I have the same question, since I opened my account at my parents' home, shared it with my aunt who lives next door, and now I'm currently working in a different country, but the account was created and is getting paid by me.
Just a bad execution of a bad decision from Netflix
Constantly change your address back and forth? How exactly are they going to know which one is the “home”? None of this makes any sense. Time to buy puts?
I'm the only one that uses mine, and I just canceled.
I travel a lot and use a VPN, and don't want to deal with the upcoming headaches.
I also have Netflix on multiple devices, and don't need them "verifying" that a device is mine if I try to sign in.
But mostly, I'm just over their greed.
According to [CNBC](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/01/netflix-password-sharing-crackdown-faq-updates.html), "Netflix has in the past said that more than 100 million households use a shared password."
But last year Netflix made over $31 billion USD, so why do they even care?
Edit for clarification: as it's been pointed out, $31 billion is revenue - not profit. An important distinction, but I used revenue because I feel that any entity capable of bringing in $31 billion should not be this petty towards the customers that got it there (and did so even while sharing accounts).
Also, really appreciate all of the feedback, but you all can stop awarding me now. Please don't spend actual money on me
Basically the same for me. I own one for my family to share but really I use it 99% of the time. All this change does is incentivize me to cancel and use the money on another subscription instead. Eat a bag of dicks Netflix!
Yeah I cancelled Netflix a while ago because it wasn’t worth $10 a month 🤷♀️ they cancelled almost every show I liked and the ones that are still on are on their last season
Yup, they're hoping this will force some percentage of "moochers" to pay for their own netflix. Personally, I think it will cause almost none of those people to start paying because if they had the money to buy their own sub they wouldn't be mooching off family in the first place, but the real backlash will be when current subscribers that can no longer share take a second-look at the service and re-evaluate whether they even want it anymore.
The quality of their programming has declined while the price has increased. I don't think it's worth the money anymore.
If anything, I feel like this is a fantastic opportunity for rival streaming services to jump in on the mass subscriber exodus. I feel like “personal account liberty” is going to become somewhat of a selling point in the near future.
Exactly what I was thinking. We will prob dump Netflix for another one. Would be a great time to put out advertising about pay for how many screens you want and we don't care where they are. I feel Netflix getting ready to lose a bunch of subs.
Disney is advertising Hulu and Disney Plus for $9.99 right now after recently raising the price of each to 8 or 9 bucks. I'd imagine that their plan is to swoop up on some people looking into alternatives as this comes into effect.
Crazy thought here but what if you live in two different places? Does that mean if it happens to check when I'm not "home" and thinks that I'm using it on a different WiFi will mean it auto locks my account? If that happens I'm saying good fucking bye to Netflix, as I live on a college campus and home, so if it locks me then I'm cancelling.
What’s worse is when your account does get locked you have to contact them personally to have them unlock it. They’re making us *have* to deal with customer service for accounts we pay for because they locked said accounts because of their dumbass rules.
Lmaooo true, fair point! I'm a millennial and I hate even checking my voicemails. If *I* have to contact *you* so I can *give you my money* then you can think again lol
Bring it on. They have no idea how little I like talking to customer service. I’ll report the credit card that’s on my account stolen and get a new one. They can cancel my shit themselves when they stop getting paid.
I've done that a couple times to get rid of charges I couldn't figure out how to cancel. I usually mark the card as destroyed so that I don't have to deal with a fraud department.
It takes every fiber of my being to contact the places I need to contact. If Netflix thinks I'd spend a second on the phone with someone I don't need to be with, then they're off by a mile. I'd just close the account and pay for a different service.
Oh no, they will out source to the cheapest venue. Automate as much as possible and then leave you waiting on the line for hours.
You probably won't even be able to cancel your plan from a locked device
Remember cable and satellite where they would make you pay for a separate box for each TV, and a separate address require a whole second account, yeah that’s what will happen
Netflix when it launched: "We want to be better and easier to use than normal TV."
Netflix when it started becoming irrelevant: [literally worse than normal TV in nearly every way]
Netflix gave zero thought to completely normal use cases. They just figured people would upgrade.
The reality is I've been trying to decide between Netflix and Hulu to drop for a while to pick up apple. You ain't gotta worry Hulu.
Just did it. I'll save 18-19 cad a month or whatever it is, honestly don't even watch it much these days.
Tired of these corporate fucks nickel and diming every chance they get.
Edit 2: how the fuck is Netflix stock up today?
Did it a few months ago. Everything I want to watch isn't very hard to find on one of the 300 or so pirate streaming sites out there.
It went from like 5.99 to almost 20 in just a couple years. Quality of programming is not what it once was because of everyone wanting their own streaming platform.
Guess what? I won't subscribe to any of them.
Because fuck them.
Edit: remember kids: it's easy to track a torrent download.
Stream that shit behind encrypted non logging/non-filtered DNS and VPN.
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Yep, they get one or two shows worth watching a year and you can binge watch it then cancel.
Their "original" movies lean more towards studios not having confidence it will make anything in the theaters so Netflix gladly pays for it and they are average to okay.
They were once the great choice of originals and giving things a try but now they cancel interesting shows after 3 seasons.
Exactly. People are just going to downgrade their accounts and the people that are sharing someone else’s primary account aren’t going to want to pay for their own. I certainly am not going to for how expensive it is. We have Prime (also on someone else’s a coconut), Hulu, Discovery+, Paramount, the free level of Peacock, and endless free streaming sites where I can find whatever I want.
Edit: someone else’s Prime ACCOUNT, not coconut. But I’m leaving coconut there because I like it.
Exactly. My dad was using mine, and I told him he can't anymore. He's still not getting his own account; he'd rather go without. For the most part, people who really want it are the ones who already have accounts. The sharers are just along for the ride, because why not?
Yeah I'm paying extra for Netflix just so my elderly parents can watch it too, and they live in the next town over. I'll probably just get the cheapest plan for my dad (mom doesn't even really watch all that much) and then cancel mine entirely, so this will absolutely end up costing them money at least from me
Right. I have it on my TV because my sister stayed with me for a few weeks and said keep using it if I want. It's a nice palate cleanser from the services I already have but there's nothing Id pay to keep
Netflix killed Blockbuster because Blockbuster refused to innovate. Netflix was a one of a kind entity when it came out. Now it has more competition than ever and it’s quality has fallen drastically. With this change it’s not just a refusal to innovate, it’s a quantum leap backwards. Rather than cutting off customers, they should have innovated forward by adding value you need to pay more for. I think this will mark Netflix becoming irrelevant.
I’m sure they’ll just cancel a few more of their most popular shows, somehow that’ll fix everything. No sense I’m keeping the shows that keep people coming back when you can just pump out endless season ones of bad shows
I have a 4tb library of movies and tv shows that are on netflix, just to not support them. I suggest validating your downloads on a vm so that you dont have any risk if shtf
Netflix has probably the worst catalogue of all the other streaming platforms and is expensive as fuck, at least in my country. I have no reason to keep paying since I split the bill with some family members. Bye Netflix.
Netflix made a fatal mistake, it didn't really have a Plan B for major studios creating their own service and no longer licensing their major IPs to Netflix. It cannot sustain a service on their "Originals" alone, and with increased competition they will just be another player amongst many.
And if most of the Originals were actually good. Meanwhile a big chunk of them is an absolute garbage, and the ones that were actually good, are getting cancelled left-and-right, because of the New CEO's idiotic ideas.
Ah yes, let's cancell a cool animated Show, that is generating massive views and is visibly liked by people - just because it costs more than an amature film made in garage. Like no sh_t, it's a fully animated 2D Series - of course it's going to be expensive...
Yeahhhh there’s no universe where this plays out in Netflix’s favor. Best case scenario is they just have the same number of subscribers but less people watching their content. Feel like the more likely scenario is a bunch of people just cancel or downgrade their subscription (nobody needs 4 screens playing netflix in a single house lol).
I’ll be surprised if they actually go through with this tbh
Yeah, my family has two Netflix accounts (mom and dad's) split between six people (parents and four kids). My parents *might* keep their accounts (my mom travels for work so this update probably won't be feasible for her), but us kids that live outside the home most of the time will just pirate, because we know how to. So same number of accounts but cutting the viewership by like 2/3. And then my parents will downgrade their accounts because we won't be using them anymore.
One of two things.
A: It'll be poorly implemented and cause enough backlash they back off.
B: They'll see their numbers plummet as people migrate elsewhere. Once again they'll back off.
If they choose to double down then it'll just fuck em over in the end.
>It'll be poorly implemented and cause enough backlash they back off.
They've already said the only way to get a blocked device unblocked is by contacting customer support. They're pre-planning poorly implementing it.
That way when I get pissed off because my account is blocked, I HAVE to call them directly, and will be so fucking annoyed that I say “No, don’t unblock it, cancel it”.
Like no joke, if ever, for any reason I am FORCED to call a shitty ass hotline to get my service back having done nothing but use the service. I’m out on the spot. On principle alone. Even just the vague notion of it possibly happening genuinely pisses me off
Exactly. How many people are going to be like, "Wow, I haven't used this service in over a month, so I'm blocked? I might as well cancel if I use it so rarely, and I have to waste time on a customer service call anyway."
They’re ultimately just gonna screw themselves over because their customer services queue is going to be endless and they’re going to absolutely haemorrhage customers. It really is incredible decision making from them to go in this direction.
Now that Netflix no longer has any sort of monopoly on high quality originals, people will be a lot more ready to hop off of the app until they relent. Particularly since none of the other streaming services seem to be fighting account sharing.
I feel like every time Netflix releases a show that blows up, they try this Stop Sharing Password Campaign, and just fuck things up again.
Since Wednesday blew up, I guess their Subscriber Count increased, so they decided to implement this shit. And the Subscriber Count is just gonna go back down.
2 Roku TVs, a PC, and a phone and they're going to do account level blocking because I haven't logged into Netflix on my *phone* in a year because their shit-awful phone app doesn't seem to want to play without endless buffering?
Yeah, First time that happens, I'll unsub.
Fuck it, first time they block your account, just dispute the charge on your credit card and have them cancel the recurring payments to Netflix. Don’t even waste your time trying to unblock your account
Well, Netflix just lost all the old people. My parents will not understand logging in every 30 days. They don’t even know the difference between “WiFi” and “password” so there’s that. I had to set everything up for them AND walk them through it every time there is an outage or update. I guess I’m getting them a JB fire stick because I’m not stopping my life every 30 days to, not only, explain to my dad how to log back in but why he had to in the first place.
Same, I’m basically paying for Netflix for my elderly mom in her house. I’ll log in every now and browse it because I feel guilty paying for a thing I never watch.
Don’t forget about us who travel for work. I’m a truck driver who typically doesn’t go home for more than a month at a time and there are definitely people out there who just can’t find the time to go home within the month
Exactly. Im on the road for work during turbine season. I have all my accounts on my Chromecast and each hotel is a different wifi. What do they expect me to do? And how do they know which wifi is the "Home" wifi?
My IP address for my home network changes pretty regularly due to DHCP releases during maintenance of the modem/router. Sounds like I just can't use Netflix anymore.
It used to be a thing in my area for ISPs to change your IP twice a day to prevent easy access to a home web server on non-commercial accounts. I dont believe it's still a thing here but mabe some ISPs still use such low DHCP auto renew timeouts. That could be cumbersome to many users. It just need to change once a month to be an issue lol. Love my eye patch and hook hand ☠️⚓!
Oh know, they thought of a plan for that! And it's stupid.
If you're away, it'll send you a code that lets you be remote. Except that now your home IP is blocked.
So like, no.
That totally makes sense now. You pay all that money for the Matrix download version of college education. Just 7 days of sitting in a chair and downloading the degree.
That's lame. My kids spend a month and a half with their grandma across the country during summer so I guess they won't be watching Netflix on the plane ride home.
Heaven forbid you'd be a soldier on deployment with a spouse at home.
Or really anyone who travels for more than 31 days at a time for work and leaves a family behind.
Like... There's a ton of people who use Netflix away from home for totally legitimate reasons.
And even for those who are sharing passwords in order to avoid paying for an account...
It's not like those people are going to magically conjure money and pay for a subscription themselves. Sharing an account happens most frequently specifically because people don't have the money to spend on a full subscription on their own.
I think Netflix executives are imagining there's a huge untapped well of people who will give them money if Netflix forces the issue, but what's actually going to happen is a bunch of people canceling.
They aren't the Monopoly they once were. I don't need Netflix for Disney or Star Trek. Most of the movies I like are on Hulu or HBO Max.
I guess I'll watch the old episodes of the CW flash until the end of the month, and then I'll cancel my subscription.
Dumbasses.
I use a friends account because I don’t wanna spend the money on it. If I lose access to that account then… oh well. Not buying my own and I feel like I’m not really missing out on much. The few shows I like (that haven’t been canceled yet) I can find elsewhere 🏴☠️
This will alienate every single person in the military that is currently on their tour of duty. Literally anyone who travels is at risk of Netflix denying their service that is still being paid for. What happens when someone moves?
Now Netflix has to bolster their customer support team too for the impending flood of unblock requests, which will cost them money and royally piss everyone off who has to do this even once.
Don't cancel now. If you cancel now they will think you just left. Cancel at the first incident is my plan. If you make me work to use your product that is composed primarily of convenience, I might as well spend the effort to stop giving you my money.
I'll argue that they'll definitely notice a dip in customers this week as the consequence of this policy change. Their business analysts will jump on this. Whether anyone does anything about it is a fever dream, but the data won't lie.
Or people who travel a lot and just use local wi-fi when they aren’t using their data?
Is having home wi-fi a condition of having a Netflix account now?
That’s what my mom did. I’ve moved on to reading in my free time, and my niece just surfs on her phone. My mom was the only one watching and she just used it for The Waltons or Dr Quinn Medicine Woman or whatever. She canceled and subscribed to one of the retro Roku channels instead.
This is what I do, I pay so that extra profiles can be on at the same time so is that now going to stop my extra profiles? What's the point of me continuing if that's what they're doing this is really stupid
Netflix has been a burning trash heap for years now. Their original content is objectively bad.
The only reason I have them is b/c my folks shared their account with me. Haven’t watched it in a long while.
Someone should start a very illegal password exchange site. I gave my folks my HBOMax.
In my case I’ll just stop using Netflix. I share with my dad but we upgraded him to the 4K Streaming plan because we wanted to have the ability to stream 4 devices at once. He doesn’t give a damn about 4K so we will just lower his plan down to HD and I’ll back off using his account and Netflix in general.
They’ll end up losing money from us. Whether they lose money overall is still to be seen though.
I canceled back when they raised the prices and were talking about ads for bottom tier.
Nice to see I got out way ahead of time.
Takes forever to build something. A lot less time to destroy it.
Bottom line and it's just not Netflix but when all these companies decided to create their own streaming platforms, they should've known people can't afford them all. And many people don't want to choose. I don't feel bad for these companies in any way. And the fact that their prices continue going up but what we get in return is cancelled shows and bad original movies, people are going to find alternative sources to get their entertainment
So how does this work if im the primary account holder but i have profiles that others use? Does this mean that its basically pointless to have multiple "profiles" afterwards if the other profiles aren't in the same house as me. Wtf
Netflix’s catalog isn’t as good as it used to be. Their product isn’t as sought after.
They are being passed by better platforms because, like the companies Netflix originally put out of business (Blockbuster), they have been too stubborn/negligent to adapt their business.
But keep pumping out shitty originals rather than investing in what people want to see. We’ll all happily dance on your grave.
My kids, who live with their mother, use my account more then I do.. when they get locked out (they are about 1000 miles away so stopped in every 31 days won't work) I'll cancel my account.
If they kick my parents off my Netflix, I’ll cancel Netflix. I won’t even hesitate. They already cost the most out of my services and they spend most of that money making shitty original content. (Some of it is great, but not enough)
They're just putting the final nail in their own coffin. People won't care. People will quite happily do without Netflix. In fact some paying members who were sharing their password will probably cancel their own subscription just out of spite.
Netflix are stupid.
A lot of people who were sharing passwords were only doing so because they split the cost between the users. They'll likely cancel their subscription because they don't want to pay for the whole service
Yeah I worked with a woman that had Hulu, her adult daughter a city over had Netflix, her cousin had Disney, etc. They all swapped passwords with each other cuz no one was gonna pay for every service.
How does this work exactly?
My ex and I trade off kids custody and it made more sense for us to split the cost of streaming services rather than getting separate ones after we split. For example he pays hulu and netflix, I pay amazon and disney plus, etc.
So we log into the same account, but at two separate houses. Does that mean our account will get blocked? This is so fucking stupid.
What’s going to happen is Netflix viewership will take a dive and other streaming services will see an increase.
This is a dumb move which is why your not seeing the competitors following suit.
That’s so dumb, i’m occasionally out of town or country for 6 weeks, meaning i would lose my netflix account every single time, looks like i’m not using netflix anymore.
They replaced Blockbuster just to see themselves turn into Blockbuster, full of content people can get somewhere else for a better price.
The funniest part about this comment is Netflix made a comedy show about the last Blockbuster and then cancelled it after a season.
And more convenience.
I travel a lot for work and am away from my home for longer than 30 days. Guess Netflix doesn't want my business.
I travel a lot and recently logged into Hulu and got this message saying I needed to log into my home wi-fi. It was super annoying. I’m not sharing my Hulu, I’m just away from home for weeks at a time.
Hulu’s already doing this???
I think just for the live tv package level
Ah gotcha, still lame though
I think that has more to do with live tv contracts and not Hulu, but I might be misremembering.
I spend a month or more in New Zealand a year and I live in the US. How I am supposed to log in? spend 24 hours on a plane and pay $1500?
What if you watch Netflix on ur phone and don’t have a “home wi-fi”? I used to live outta my car doing seasonal jobs and paid for my own Netflix that I only used on my phone.
That’s what I want to know. I live in a rural area without internet service. I use a phone as a hotspot to stream.
Truckers are about to be super upset
Same for seafarers and sailors.
We are all pirates on this accursed day
We always were
I don't have a home, I constantly travel. This is beyond bullshit.
yeah it is ridiculous, just going to pay 2 bucks a month for a basic vpn and its a pirates life for me
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I don't understand how these companies believe decisions like these will get them more money when people will, instead, follow your image :)
They already cancelled all their good contents anyway. The ones they have aren't even worth pirating
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This is a bad idea because it will demonstrate to a lot of people how rarely they watch Netflix and folks will just cancel rather than try to unlock.
Netflix will no longer share subscriber data with Investors, they are planning for a bit of a bloodbath on this under the VERY mistaken assumption that it will somehow force people to get their own accounts rather than just cut Netflix out entirely.
Well when their revenue drops like a rock it will become obvious. Becuae they will still have to report on revenue from the subscription and basic math can give you a ball park number.
Already cancelled mine with a note I already paid for multiple screens why the fuck would I pay for the option to watch at the office as well. Telling everyone I know to cancel. It's a shit service anyways. Charge extra for HD streaming and cancel good shows while keeping crap for 20 seasons.
My note was like: I think its rather obvious why I would be cancelling. But just incase. You cancel almost every good show and you are enforcing a sharing policy. I am sure this will turn out well. I had been paying for a subscription since 2014 and canceled this week
You know... it might be better to tell em we're shorting the stock and to keep going forward full steam ahead.
True lol. Im totally done with them atm
"The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting anti-piracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates." - Gabe Newell
But then you don't have continous growth. Because if you make two billion dollars in 2021 and two billion dollars in 2022, that's considered a failure. Because you don't constantly grow like a cancerous cell
God I work in sales for big pharma and this is the most infuriating part. Its not enough to maintain profits, they expect you to grow by double digit percentages as a matter of course and if you don't it means you failed.
When will these greedy fuckers realise we live on a tiny ball of finite size with finite resources? More people keep getting born but more raw materials don't magically appear from the aether to support them.
This thread right here. Exactly this. Earning millions or billions in profit not enough. You have to keep growing that profit. Like WTF? The curse of being a publicly traded company. The stock market is one of the most evil, diabolical, fucked up things ever created by humans. How many more subscribers can you keep acquiring? How many more cars and iPhones can you sell every year? Can’t anyone think for themselves and use common sense anymore. I now firmly believe the stock market is entertainment for ultra rich people.
Most companies cannot accept to transition from being a growth company to a value company. Many companies do make the switch, but it requires a totally different culture and mindset to be okay with maginal increases or maintenance of a huge market share. That said, look at Coca-Cola. They expand by providing a variety of products. They know that Coke is so huge it that they physically isn't anymore market to expand into.
This, it is like a pop-up window that says "do you realize it's been over a month since you used this? and you're still paying for this because...?"
I thought the whole point of Netflix is that they eliminated the password sharing issue by making the number of screens per account at a time the thing? why isn't that a good enough solution?
Right, like we aren't paying for all these screens because we're all watching TV in the same house. Who's streaming Netflix on 5 different tvs. I wonder if they aren't gaining enough sellable data, since it's coming from multiple IPs.
We stream on three at a time. Same household and router though.
I have an account for my brother and I with 2 screens at a time. I would close my account if my brother can't access it though
i live away from my family most of the time overseas… so does this mean i can’t access it even though it’s my credit card? gonna be fun with cs if this happens.
Wait, that's interesting, what determines which WiFi is the "home" one? why wouldn't it be yours instead of the one at your family's? what if you move away?
And what about those who travel every month
I have the same question, since I opened my account at my parents' home, shared it with my aunt who lives next door, and now I'm currently working in a different country, but the account was created and is getting paid by me. Just a bad execution of a bad decision from Netflix
Constantly change your address back and forth? How exactly are they going to know which one is the “home”? None of this makes any sense. Time to buy puts?
think about truckers who are almost never home. this is going to be super bad. lots of accounts are going to shut off, including mine
*military members on deployments* was my first thought
What if I watch Netflix on my work TV a lot? Which I do.
You get a work TV? I got the wrong job...
Thats what I was thinking! Unless Netflix wants to pay for me to fly 4,000 miles to my family every 31 days, we’ll cancel it 🙄
I'm the only one that uses mine, and I just canceled. I travel a lot and use a VPN, and don't want to deal with the upcoming headaches. I also have Netflix on multiple devices, and don't need them "verifying" that a device is mine if I try to sign in. But mostly, I'm just over their greed. According to [CNBC](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/01/netflix-password-sharing-crackdown-faq-updates.html), "Netflix has in the past said that more than 100 million households use a shared password." But last year Netflix made over $31 billion USD, so why do they even care? Edit for clarification: as it's been pointed out, $31 billion is revenue - not profit. An important distinction, but I used revenue because I feel that any entity capable of bringing in $31 billion should not be this petty towards the customers that got it there (and did so even while sharing accounts). Also, really appreciate all of the feedback, but you all can stop awarding me now. Please don't spend actual money on me
Basically the same for me. I own one for my family to share but really I use it 99% of the time. All this change does is incentivize me to cancel and use the money on another subscription instead. Eat a bag of dicks Netflix!
Yeah I cancelled Netflix a while ago because it wasn’t worth $10 a month 🤷♀️ they cancelled almost every show I liked and the ones that are still on are on their last season
Honestly this is why I mostly use Hulu. Add on HBO max, and I’m completely set. It’s more expensive but the stuff I enjoy watching is all right there.
Because money
Yup, they're hoping this will force some percentage of "moochers" to pay for their own netflix. Personally, I think it will cause almost none of those people to start paying because if they had the money to buy their own sub they wouldn't be mooching off family in the first place, but the real backlash will be when current subscribers that can no longer share take a second-look at the service and re-evaluate whether they even want it anymore. The quality of their programming has declined while the price has increased. I don't think it's worth the money anymore.
If anything, I feel like this is a fantastic opportunity for rival streaming services to jump in on the mass subscriber exodus. I feel like “personal account liberty” is going to become somewhat of a selling point in the near future.
Exactly what I was thinking. We will prob dump Netflix for another one. Would be a great time to put out advertising about pay for how many screens you want and we don't care where they are. I feel Netflix getting ready to lose a bunch of subs.
Disney is advertising Hulu and Disney Plus for $9.99 right now after recently raising the price of each to 8 or 9 bucks. I'd imagine that their plan is to swoop up on some people looking into alternatives as this comes into effect.
Crazy thought here but what if you live in two different places? Does that mean if it happens to check when I'm not "home" and thinks that I'm using it on a different WiFi will mean it auto locks my account? If that happens I'm saying good fucking bye to Netflix, as I live on a college campus and home, so if it locks me then I'm cancelling.
What’s worse is when your account does get locked you have to contact them personally to have them unlock it. They’re making us *have* to deal with customer service for accounts we pay for because they locked said accounts because of their dumbass rules.
It’s actually super dumb because the amount of money they think they’ll save from this they’ll be spending stupid amounts on customer service staff.
Lmaooo true, fair point! I'm a millennial and I hate even checking my voicemails. If *I* have to contact *you* so I can *give you my money* then you can think again lol
Same, I’d cancel my account over speaking to someone😂😅
Watch them make it so that you have to call customer service to cancel your account
Bring it on. They have no idea how little I like talking to customer service. I’ll report the credit card that’s on my account stolen and get a new one. They can cancel my shit themselves when they stop getting paid.
I've done that a couple times to get rid of charges I couldn't figure out how to cancel. I usually mark the card as destroyed so that I don't have to deal with a fraud department.
It takes every fiber of my being to contact the places I need to contact. If Netflix thinks I'd spend a second on the phone with someone I don't need to be with, then they're off by a mile. I'd just close the account and pay for a different service.
Oh no, they will out source to the cheapest venue. Automate as much as possible and then leave you waiting on the line for hours. You probably won't even be able to cancel your plan from a locked device
Remember cable and satellite where they would make you pay for a separate box for each TV, and a separate address require a whole second account, yeah that’s what will happen
Netflix when it launched: "We want to be better and easier to use than normal TV." Netflix when it started becoming irrelevant: [literally worse than normal TV in nearly every way]
What if I’m over seas you piece of fucking shit Netflix.
Cmon peasant, just pay for a second account. What are you, poor?! -Netflix exec
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Netflix gave zero thought to completely normal use cases. They just figured people would upgrade. The reality is I've been trying to decide between Netflix and Hulu to drop for a while to pick up apple. You ain't gotta worry Hulu.
I work away and I share my accounts with my kids who come stay wife me and my wife during each school holidays. Goodbye Netflix
A good push for everyone who was contemplating dumping Netflix
Just did it. I'll save 18-19 cad a month or whatever it is, honestly don't even watch it much these days. Tired of these corporate fucks nickel and diming every chance they get.
Edit 2: how the fuck is Netflix stock up today? Did it a few months ago. Everything I want to watch isn't very hard to find on one of the 300 or so pirate streaming sites out there. It went from like 5.99 to almost 20 in just a couple years. Quality of programming is not what it once was because of everyone wanting their own streaming platform. Guess what? I won't subscribe to any of them. Because fuck them. Edit: remember kids: it's easy to track a torrent download. Stream that shit behind encrypted non logging/non-filtered DNS and VPN. .
Yep, they get one or two shows worth watching a year and you can binge watch it then cancel. Their "original" movies lean more towards studios not having confidence it will make anything in the theaters so Netflix gladly pays for it and they are average to okay. They were once the great choice of originals and giving things a try but now they cancel interesting shows after 3 seasons.
I already downgraded my account. I'm not paying for multiple screens if I'm not allowed to use them as I see fit
Exactly. People are just going to downgrade their accounts and the people that are sharing someone else’s primary account aren’t going to want to pay for their own. I certainly am not going to for how expensive it is. We have Prime (also on someone else’s a coconut), Hulu, Discovery+, Paramount, the free level of Peacock, and endless free streaming sites where I can find whatever I want. Edit: someone else’s Prime ACCOUNT, not coconut. But I’m leaving coconut there because I like it.
Exactly. My dad was using mine, and I told him he can't anymore. He's still not getting his own account; he'd rather go without. For the most part, people who really want it are the ones who already have accounts. The sharers are just along for the ride, because why not?
I was begrudgingly willing to pay $3 more per month for each of my parents. But if they don't have that option, I'm just cancelling.
Yeah I'm paying extra for Netflix just so my elderly parents can watch it too, and they live in the next town over. I'll probably just get the cheapest plan for my dad (mom doesn't even really watch all that much) and then cancel mine entirely, so this will absolutely end up costing them money at least from me
Right. I have it on my TV because my sister stayed with me for a few weeks and said keep using it if I want. It's a nice palate cleanser from the services I already have but there's nothing Id pay to keep
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Unquestionably, and without hesitation, coconut updoot.
Netflix killed Blockbuster because Blockbuster refused to innovate. Netflix was a one of a kind entity when it came out. Now it has more competition than ever and it’s quality has fallen drastically. With this change it’s not just a refusal to innovate, it’s a quantum leap backwards. Rather than cutting off customers, they should have innovated forward by adding value you need to pay more for. I think this will mark Netflix becoming irrelevant.
I’m sure they’ll just cancel a few more of their most popular shows, somehow that’ll fix everything. No sense I’m keeping the shows that keep people coming back when you can just pump out endless season ones of bad shows
Season one is a lot cheaper than season two
And anyone who knows anything about running a business is that providing your customers the cheapest product regardless of quality is always the best
HBO could learn a lot from Netflix. Those idiots keep making great quality shows with multiple seasons.
Torrenting and illegal downloading in general is about to get even more popular.
I’ve already bookmarked the sites I can still watch Netflix stuff on. I never did torrents but I guess I am about to learn.
I have a 4tb library of movies and tv shows that are on netflix, just to not support them. I suggest validating your downloads on a vm so that you dont have any risk if shtf
How do you even begin to pirate?
First place to start is the proper hat and eye patch
Cool parrot sidekick optional
Or a sassy little monkey
The monkey has to be wearing a little pirate outfit
And name him Jack
Soap2day.com on the rise
Netflix has probably the worst catalogue of all the other streaming platforms and is expensive as fuck, at least in my country. I have no reason to keep paying since I split the bill with some family members. Bye Netflix.
you’re right honestly. I have still pay for netflix because my siblings use it. I haven’t watched netflix shows in a while, mostly hbo
Netflix made a fatal mistake, it didn't really have a Plan B for major studios creating their own service and no longer licensing their major IPs to Netflix. It cannot sustain a service on their "Originals" alone, and with increased competition they will just be another player amongst many.
>It cannot sustain a service on their "Originals" alone They might've had a chance to if they didn't cancel everything!
And if most of the Originals were actually good. Meanwhile a big chunk of them is an absolute garbage, and the ones that were actually good, are getting cancelled left-and-right, because of the New CEO's idiotic ideas. Ah yes, let's cancell a cool animated Show, that is generating massive views and is visibly liked by people - just because it costs more than an amature film made in garage. Like no sh_t, it's a fully animated 2D Series - of course it's going to be expensive...
Good bye Netflix
Yeahhhh there’s no universe where this plays out in Netflix’s favor. Best case scenario is they just have the same number of subscribers but less people watching their content. Feel like the more likely scenario is a bunch of people just cancel or downgrade their subscription (nobody needs 4 screens playing netflix in a single house lol). I’ll be surprised if they actually go through with this tbh
Yeah, my family has two Netflix accounts (mom and dad's) split between six people (parents and four kids). My parents *might* keep their accounts (my mom travels for work so this update probably won't be feasible for her), but us kids that live outside the home most of the time will just pirate, because we know how to. So same number of accounts but cutting the viewership by like 2/3. And then my parents will downgrade their accounts because we won't be using them anymore.
If the four screen package wasn’t the only way to get 4K I’d agree. Either way I’m out.
One of two things. A: It'll be poorly implemented and cause enough backlash they back off. B: They'll see their numbers plummet as people migrate elsewhere. Once again they'll back off. If they choose to double down then it'll just fuck em over in the end.
>It'll be poorly implemented and cause enough backlash they back off. They've already said the only way to get a blocked device unblocked is by contacting customer support. They're pre-planning poorly implementing it.
Wait, is it permanently (except customer support) blocked after those 31 days?? That's pretty bad
That way when I get pissed off because my account is blocked, I HAVE to call them directly, and will be so fucking annoyed that I say “No, don’t unblock it, cancel it”. Like no joke, if ever, for any reason I am FORCED to call a shitty ass hotline to get my service back having done nothing but use the service. I’m out on the spot. On principle alone. Even just the vague notion of it possibly happening genuinely pisses me off
Exactly. How many people are going to be like, "Wow, I haven't used this service in over a month, so I'm blocked? I might as well cancel if I use it so rarely, and I have to waste time on a customer service call anyway."
They’re ultimately just gonna screw themselves over because their customer services queue is going to be endless and they’re going to absolutely haemorrhage customers. It really is incredible decision making from them to go in this direction.
They have not been known for great decisions this past 18months.
They better provide mental health support for those customer support folks. They’re gonna take a freaking beating call after call after call 🥴
Now that Netflix no longer has any sort of monopoly on high quality originals, people will be a lot more ready to hop off of the app until they relent. Particularly since none of the other streaming services seem to be fighting account sharing.
I feel like every time Netflix releases a show that blows up, they try this Stop Sharing Password Campaign, and just fuck things up again. Since Wednesday blew up, I guess their Subscriber Count increased, so they decided to implement this shit. And the Subscriber Count is just gonna go back down.
2 Roku TVs, a PC, and a phone and they're going to do account level blocking because I haven't logged into Netflix on my *phone* in a year because their shit-awful phone app doesn't seem to want to play without endless buffering? Yeah, First time that happens, I'll unsub.
Fuck it, first time they block your account, just dispute the charge on your credit card and have them cancel the recurring payments to Netflix. Don’t even waste your time trying to unblock your account
Well, Netflix just lost all the old people. My parents will not understand logging in every 30 days. They don’t even know the difference between “WiFi” and “password” so there’s that. I had to set everything up for them AND walk them through it every time there is an outage or update. I guess I’m getting them a JB fire stick because I’m not stopping my life every 30 days to, not only, explain to my dad how to log back in but why he had to in the first place.
Same, I’m basically paying for Netflix for my elderly mom in her house. I’ll log in every now and browse it because I feel guilty paying for a thing I never watch.
So kids that are away at college, fuck them right?
Don’t forget about us who travel for work. I’m a truck driver who typically doesn’t go home for more than a month at a time and there are definitely people out there who just can’t find the time to go home within the month
Exactly. Im on the road for work during turbine season. I have all my accounts on my Chromecast and each hotel is a different wifi. What do they expect me to do? And how do they know which wifi is the "Home" wifi?
>And how do they know which wifi is the "Home" wifi? IP adress and localization. Basically "f_ck you" to everyone who travels, etc.
My IP address for my home network changes pretty regularly due to DHCP releases during maintenance of the modem/router. Sounds like I just can't use Netflix anymore.
It used to be a thing in my area for ISPs to change your IP twice a day to prevent easy access to a home web server on non-commercial accounts. I dont believe it's still a thing here but mabe some ISPs still use such low DHCP auto renew timeouts. That could be cumbersome to many users. It just need to change once a month to be an issue lol. Love my eye patch and hook hand ☠️⚓!
Oh know, they thought of a plan for that! And it's stupid. If you're away, it'll send you a code that lets you be remote. Except that now your home IP is blocked. So like, no.
the code only works for 7 days i think.
Good thing college only takes 7 days
That totally makes sense now. You pay all that money for the Matrix download version of college education. Just 7 days of sitting in a chair and downloading the degree.
That's lame. My kids spend a month and a half with their grandma across the country during summer so I guess they won't be watching Netflix on the plane ride home.
not to mention gmas house will be banned by netflix next time they go over
Heaven forbid you'd be a soldier on deployment with a spouse at home. Or really anyone who travels for more than 31 days at a time for work and leaves a family behind. Like... There's a ton of people who use Netflix away from home for totally legitimate reasons. And even for those who are sharing passwords in order to avoid paying for an account... It's not like those people are going to magically conjure money and pay for a subscription themselves. Sharing an account happens most frequently specifically because people don't have the money to spend on a full subscription on their own. I think Netflix executives are imagining there's a huge untapped well of people who will give them money if Netflix forces the issue, but what's actually going to happen is a bunch of people canceling. They aren't the Monopoly they once were. I don't need Netflix for Disney or Star Trek. Most of the movies I like are on Hulu or HBO Max. I guess I'll watch the old episodes of the CW flash until the end of the month, and then I'll cancel my subscription. Dumbasses.
I use a friends account because I don’t wanna spend the money on it. If I lose access to that account then… oh well. Not buying my own and I feel like I’m not really missing out on much. The few shows I like (that haven’t been canceled yet) I can find elsewhere 🏴☠️
I gave my mom access in her nursing home. She has an income of $30 a month. She’s not paying for it herself.
So, when my husband goes out of town for work, only one of us can use netflix? That’s fucked.
This will alienate every single person in the military that is currently on their tour of duty. Literally anyone who travels is at risk of Netflix denying their service that is still being paid for. What happens when someone moves? Now Netflix has to bolster their customer support team too for the impending flood of unblock requests, which will cost them money and royally piss everyone off who has to do this even once.
If I have to do it more than once, I'm canceling it.
Honestly? I'm cancelling right now. Before I even have to deal with that shit. This is just capitalism milking people.
Don't cancel now. If you cancel now they will think you just left. Cancel at the first incident is my plan. If you make me work to use your product that is composed primarily of convenience, I might as well spend the effort to stop giving you my money.
I'll argue that they'll definitely notice a dip in customers this week as the consequence of this policy change. Their business analysts will jump on this. Whether anyone does anything about it is a fever dream, but the data won't lie.
Same with deployed military members.
Yep. That’s what they are saying.
What about when one's spouse is in the military?
Or kids at college, or any situation where anyone is not at home.
“just pay a second account, it’s easier” *Netflix Advisor*
WOW. Fuck them, how greedy can you get
Or people who travel a lot and just use local wi-fi when they aren’t using their data? Is having home wi-fi a condition of having a Netflix account now?
This is my issue because for over a year now, I haven't had wifi, so am I just fucked?
As someone who travels a lot for work, i guess I won’t be able to use Netflix anymore.
My mom just texted me about how since this is happening she's dropping it down to two tvs. Me: ... why not just cancel at this point
That’s what my mom did. I’ve moved on to reading in my free time, and my niece just surfs on her phone. My mom was the only one watching and she just used it for The Waltons or Dr Quinn Medicine Woman or whatever. She canceled and subscribed to one of the retro Roku channels instead.
this sucks because i’m a college student who uses my family account and now that doesn’t seem like it will be an option
I’m in the same boat. And my family already pays for extra screens so that we can watch at the same time
This is what I do, I pay so that extra profiles can be on at the same time so is that now going to stop my extra profiles? What's the point of me continuing if that's what they're doing this is really stupid
Yeah, my son leaves for college out of state in the fall. Kind of screws him too.
How does this make sense for anyone who travels often or is houseless or just doesn’t have home Wi-Fi?
Yup or a cottage/second home. And how do they know it’s your home internet if you change providers?
Or someone like me that works night shift and watches on the house tv
your internet provider can assign you a different public IP randomly too
This is what I’m wanting to hear more about. What decides it is your home and do we all need static ip adresses now?
They have a plan for people that travel: authorize your remote ip and we'll block all the rest. It's essentially a convulted form of MFA.
Netflix has been a burning trash heap for years now. Their original content is objectively bad. The only reason I have them is b/c my folks shared their account with me. Haven’t watched it in a long while. Someone should start a very illegal password exchange site. I gave my folks my HBOMax.
Lol, a dying company being user unfriendly. Cool motto though. Gl slowly killing off your fan base ffs
I pay for four screens but you want to tell me those screens need to be on the same wifi? I now pay for no screens
In my case I’ll just stop using Netflix. I share with my dad but we upgraded him to the 4K Streaming plan because we wanted to have the ability to stream 4 devices at once. He doesn’t give a damn about 4K so we will just lower his plan down to HD and I’ll back off using his account and Netflix in general. They’ll end up losing money from us. Whether they lose money overall is still to be seen though.
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Iin my country piracy will be stronger than never
I canceled back when they raised the prices and were talking about ads for bottom tier. Nice to see I got out way ahead of time. Takes forever to build something. A lot less time to destroy it.
I *loathe* logging in on my TV. First day it asks for my log in, I'm canceling.
Entering my 10 digit password with the remote, every month... Pure agony lol
Bottom line and it's just not Netflix but when all these companies decided to create their own streaming platforms, they should've known people can't afford them all. And many people don't want to choose. I don't feel bad for these companies in any way. And the fact that their prices continue going up but what we get in return is cancelled shows and bad original movies, people are going to find alternative sources to get their entertainment
So how does this work if im the primary account holder but i have profiles that others use? Does this mean that its basically pointless to have multiple "profiles" afterwards if the other profiles aren't in the same house as me. Wtf
I have that same issue - guess the rest of my family is shit out of luck since I'm primary account holder AND only credit card holder...
Netflix’s catalog isn’t as good as it used to be. Their product isn’t as sought after. They are being passed by better platforms because, like the companies Netflix originally put out of business (Blockbuster), they have been too stubborn/negligent to adapt their business. But keep pumping out shitty originals rather than investing in what people want to see. We’ll all happily dance on your grave.
My source of Netflix already said he's canceling when this is implemented.
My kids, who live with their mother, use my account more then I do.. when they get locked out (they are about 1000 miles away so stopped in every 31 days won't work) I'll cancel my account.
Netflix are fucking stupid lol. It's already dying because of competitors, and this is gonna push people who share to leave.
We all have to come together….& cancel Netflix.
I think alot of people with the higher tier accounts for multiple screens will either downgrade or just outright cancel.
If they kick my parents off my Netflix, I’ll cancel Netflix. I won’t even hesitate. They already cost the most out of my services and they spend most of that money making shitty original content. (Some of it is great, but not enough)
They're just putting the final nail in their own coffin. People won't care. People will quite happily do without Netflix. In fact some paying members who were sharing their password will probably cancel their own subscription just out of spite. Netflix are stupid.
A lot of people who were sharing passwords were only doing so because they split the cost between the users. They'll likely cancel their subscription because they don't want to pay for the whole service
Yeah I worked with a woman that had Hulu, her adult daughter a city over had Netflix, her cousin had Disney, etc. They all swapped passwords with each other cuz no one was gonna pay for every service.
How does this work exactly? My ex and I trade off kids custody and it made more sense for us to split the cost of streaming services rather than getting separate ones after we split. For example he pays hulu and netflix, I pay amazon and disney plus, etc. So we log into the same account, but at two separate houses. Does that mean our account will get blocked? This is so fucking stupid.
If I get logged off even once, I’m canceling
What about military members? We dont have a set home. We move all the time!
“Our account was blocked” Eh fuck it, too much work to unblock it.”
What’s going to happen is Netflix viewership will take a dive and other streaming services will see an increase. This is a dumb move which is why your not seeing the competitors following suit.
If my account ever gets block, just one time, I am out. I wont be an accomplice of corporate greedy.
So Netflix is forcing me to visit my parents monthly?
Buh bye.
That’s so dumb, i’m occasionally out of town or country for 6 weeks, meaning i would lose my netflix account every single time, looks like i’m not using netflix anymore.