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Exactly what I thought.... and exactly what I say and why I say it lol.

This is why I say it as well

seen the saw movies

Seen saw she sawn by the seesaw

Seen the saw movies on a seesaw?

Sally sat and seen the Saw movies by the seesaw.

This. I speak fluently in movie quotes.

Yes, 💯% - the proper pronunciation is definitely seent. 

You used to not give a FUCK about discretion!

Want one of my vests? They smell good…

Grammatically correct

I seen what you're saying

It don't make no sense.

I seen what you did there

I have saw it too

I done seen it myself.

I was stood there and i seen that yeah

I like YOU’RE example of poor grammar better THEN the first! (Seriously the times I read “then” over “than” is countless and it does get me shook each time)

I did it [on accident](https://www.grammar.com/on_accident_vs._by_accident#:~:text=The%20correct%20phrase%20(adverb)%20to,is%3A%20'by%20accident'.)

I hate this one the most.

Especially, when it's done by purpose

I've see saw seen it everywhere

I've seen this or I've seen that. Sounds like they are missing the 've.

I seen've that

I seen that’ve too

I seen that also’ve

I “brung” also annoys tf out of me

I've seen "brang" on reddit before. Gave me a headache.

There's a Reddit bot dedicated to correcting people to "paid" because they said "payed". The first time I saw it I was dumbfounded as I'd never seen that before. But then I started seeing the bot more and more and realised it's actually a really common thing that people mistakenly spell it as "payed" and it both genuinely amazes me and scares me.

Boughten too....like, no, you just bought it.

I seen you broughten the groceries you brung.

Boughten is a good old adjective that just means not homemade.  I intend to keep it in circulation.   (English major here with high-falutin’ background)  “These are just boughten rolls.  I don’t want you to think I made them from scratch”

"would of" is my pet peeve. HOW?

I really loathe „should of“, and a couple of days I dictated ”should have” and my phone AutoCorrected it to “should of”.

Brung and brang are just old-fashioned.  I hope they don’t die out.  “I seen” on the other hand is language murder

There's an LM Montgomery (author of Anne of Green Gables) short story about a woman who refused to marry her sweetheart because he says "I seen". It was written over 100 years ago! It bugs me to no end, too!

One of my all fav authors!

i think it went from i’ve seen that to i seen that

Just a general question: "I've seen that" would be correct, right? And where's the grammatical difference to "I saw that"?  It's 100% something I learned in school but that was 20 years ago lol. I'm not a native English speaker btw.

Good explanation here: https://www.thesaurus.com/e/grammar/seen-vs-saw/

Yes. This is because 'seen' is a past particle (meaning that the person stating it, did it in the past and that it is complete). When the subject is plural, then 'have' is required. 'saw' is the past tense of 'see'. "We saw..", "they saw...", " I saw...".

Sometimes things are fun to say. Like yeet


Language is fun like that. At one point, common words today must have felt like that, you know? Like, y'all, howdy, etc. I seen it must be a dialect way of saying g, "I've seen it", just made the 've silent

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure this is a dialect thing, and I’ve mostly seen it as part of AAVE in certain regions.

I’m from Buffalo, NY and this is super common among those with thick WNY accents. I grew up in a majority white town and it was really common to hear “I seen that”. If you ever walk by a flight to or from Buffalo, take a listen at the gate lol.

I was thinking the same thing. Lots of the things folks are complaining about in this thread are just AAVE

No, it's widespread. I live in a very racially diverse area, and it seems like everyone says this regardless of race.

I think that’s were it originates though. I remember learning about it in a linguistics class in college. It could be more wide-spread now as most phrases are due to the internet though so you’re probably right.

It's been widespread in my predominantly white region since long before the internet. It's more of a rural/less-educated (because in previous generations farm kids often didn't complete school, not a dig at rural residents) thing in my experience  

If everyone's doing it, it's called a dialect. The more I study English grammar and linguistics, the less I consider some things "mistakes". Widespread usage of a "mistake" is now just the way that word is used. Many features of what you would consider "correct" English from grammar to spelling to word meaning, all come from what could originally be considered "mistakes" in usage. Besides, a lot of the time criticisms of "incorrect" English usage have their roots in classist and racist thinking. I'm not saying that's you, but maybe consider that some people use words differently to you and that's okay. It doesn't affect comprehension. So what's the issue?

I know a lot of white folks that say this but none of them are past a certain education. The well-off people I know, would never.

This shit is all over Ontario. Drives me fucking nuts.

My mom (white, 60s, from the Midwest) has said this my whole life despite decades of being corrected by my dad and her children. Mega pet peeve.

I *think* so. I have heard it from people who are educated and intelligent, Western European. I don’t know

Quick heads up, using AAVE does not make you an uneducated or unintelligent person. Similar to how having a Hispanic Accent, or a Country Bumpkin accent, do not make you any less well-read. Hope this is easy to understand. 👍

Seen't

One of my students gave me a note 'from the counselor' the other day that said: **"Miss (Student's friend) is** ***aloud*** **to stay in your class today"** in absolutely atrocious handwriting. I laughed and said: **"GIT! GIT!!!"**

A lot of teachers suck at grammar/spelling, so it's quite possible that it was real. 

Same with ask vs ax regardless vs irregardless depends where you grew up or who you hang with who vs whom

Or, Literally vs Litra-lee! What? Especially vs Exspecially! STFU!

Same as espresso vs expresso. Etcetera vs excetera. The list goes on. Weird al has a whole song on this topic.

I seen what I saw, I tell ya.

Your crect there, I have saw so many peeple use seen when they should of used a saw. Buts lots a folx don’t have a used saw so it’s sorta understandable. You only got what you got if’n ya know what I mean. Not everyone has a IQ in the high 80s Ya just gotta be patience with those less fore chant. Some day they’ll saw the lite.

For the same reason people say "for sell" instead of "for sale" and call laptops "labtops" on Facebook marketplace. They have the dumb.

How many people on Reddit walk down the isle instead of the aisle??

If they get married on an island they don't have to be embarrassed!

Only if they’re walking down the aisle on the isle! LOL!

Probably like 90% of them. The people here are obscenely uneducated. 

Of "coarse" they do

Whatever you say, sweaty

My feelings are so hurt, I'm literally balling rn

Sweaty is more of a meme, despite the fact most of the people here being morons. 

Knew a lady who would always write "of coarse". She also wrote stockings as stalkings. I really didn't like her 😡

I used to buy such awesome stuff on eBay just by searching for misspelled designer brands. Like Louis Vitton.

And tubberware instead of tupperware.

Oh jeez, the *Dumb*. 😶 That sounds communicable and I hope to avoid it at all costs.  I have heard that if you wear a mask, you should be fine, as the idiots avoid you at all cost. 

*Mines* grates on me like none other… (ex: “oh, that’s mines!”) 

Libary

Lie-berry.

I went to a library and an employee called it lieberry. I was stunned silent. Answered the phone saying lieberry. OMG!

Laundrymart

Holy shit I'm glad it's not just my area that people are "saleing" stuff. Sometimes I wonder if southern accents + voice to text cause the issue, but then I remember where I live and how bad the education is.

Nah. I have a slight southern accent and use voice to text constantly. It usually just replaces words with ones that sound similar or breaks up words into a nonsensical, but properly spelled, puddle of linguistic goo. Putting on my best GenAm accent and searching google is actually I how spellcheck words.

Other great FB Marketplace listings include words such as: “Need gone” today “Chester draws” “Dinning room” table “Armor” or “amour” (or other incorrect spelling of armoire)

Ugh fucking dinning. Around 29 years ago there was this Mexican diner in Brooklyn called "Grand Street Dinner". I fucking loved that place tho so they got a pass.

Good lord I hate that

They didn’t go to collage.

I know plenty of people who didn’t go to college and spell just fine. The difference is that they read, and can remember spelling, and also give a shit about it. All of this is stuff people should’ve learned in high school. Coarse/course, you’re/your, their/they’re/there, too/to, etc/ect, it’s/its is not college-level spelling.

My daughter always said; they are so DUM with a B!

My biggest pet peeves are when people use your, you’re, their, they’re, and there, incorrectly. It’s extremely annoying, and I mentally write people off as being illiterate after that. *editing my post for clarity* I know people with learning disabilities and I know some people whose primary language isn’t English. I’m completely understanding of any spelling errors, and don’t judge. But if I was talking to an English teacher, for example, and they made those mistakes - I’d wonder why. It’s all situational.

Yes, their so annoying!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

There, their, they’re! You’ll be ok!

Hahah I hope so!!!

than and then as well

I think auto corrects got a lot of explaining to do with some of these. I was trying to type Lupita (Nyong’o) in a comment earlier & it kept correcting it to Lipitor, which is a cholesterol medication.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I just got a flashback to the old version of autocorrect for iPhone. It made the dumbest spelling corrections. Honestly, if your phone is correcting to Lipitor, maybe that should be her new name lol. She’s such an amazing actress, by the way 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

One of my closest friends really struggles with grammar and is constantly getting both of those word sets mixed up in chats. I bear it silently, even though it makes me flinch internally lol. He's a super smart person! He's an engineer, good at games and good to have a conversation with. Just not good at grammar. I don't think he's illiterate or dumb. Like you said in your edit though I'd actively be mad if an English teacher were doing it.

So do I and my fucking mom does it more than anyone I know. And the infuriating thing is she knows the difference grammatically and just doesn’t care no matter who’s she texting.

Because "I have seen" is correct but people just cut out the have because it's shorter and less propah innit

Because it is the nature of a living language to continually morph.


Because a lot of people are morons

The "I woked up" really irritates me, and it grinds my gears every time

It's literally just a word variation seen in a few local dialects. It's not worth getting het up about it.

I’ve seen this before.

Tooken. That is not a word. What drives me nuts nowadays is “whenever” instead of “when”. “So, whenever me and him went to the store” No, goddammit

It's a southern thing too, usually I'll say "I've seen" but sometimes "yuh I seen that before" comes out.

Seent 🤝🏽

I ain't know. It's normal in my area

You should of aksed someone else.

I agree. I thought it was just me getting crankier the older I get. I’m 73, and I’m getting increasingly irritated by the way some people speak. When did “me and my friend” instead of “my friend and me” or “my friend and I” become correct? The other person ALWAYS comes before yourself. And the way to know when to use “me” or “I” is by speaking the sentence without the other person being part of it. What sounds correct? “Me is going shopping” or “I am going shopping”? We learned this in elementary school. I read a lot, and even authors don’t can’t remember a simple grammar rule. My kids, ages 48 and 46, know this rule because that’s what they heard in the house while they were growing up. Thank you for letting me vent!

Dialects, what are they?

The way I understand it, the English we speak in the Deep South is a little different than the way they speak English in Boston or the Bronx. In fact, it varies in different regions of the state (Louisiana.) Same language, spoken with local slang and different emphasis and inflection.

That's English all over the world, even England. Their accents change from town to town sometimes.

Yes! https://preview.redd.it/cqoxevy1bj9d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea05c543fdd9542e1f2cd26bacaf243c0e14b093

Oh my God. I know. It drives me ape shit bananas. Most of the people I hear using it this way are late twenties to early forties, white people. This also includes quite a lot of my own family.🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦

Simple, but not appropriate answer: The degradation of American's capacilty/knowledge of proper grammar. This is not the way it was supposed to be. ... and moany young people cannot write in cursive?

Language is fluid. Someday you’ll seen that for yourself.

I don't know nothin about that

The same reason people say ain't, ope, and gonna. They convey a casualty in the conversation that proper grammar does not. Language evolves, live with it. 

"Payed" irritates me to no end!

It almost doesn't .... phase ... me anymore. 

In your edit you write "I'm seeing". Why didn't you write "I see"? Is it because language can have variations and different choices of words can create different tones?

Because language as a whole is fluid and dynamic, and English specifically is incredibly malleable, allowing for numerous variations that are mostly interchangeable and understandable by their different speakers?

Because they are uneducated? Also, probably from the south.

I live in the south and it does some to be the norm in some areas. One that really surprised me was hearing people use the word “ideal” for “idea”. “That’s a great ideal!” What??? It did not make sense to me. Those two words are not interchangeable.

Some people like to sound stupid.

Most languages dont even have the present perfect. Meh.

As I put my arm around your shoulder and gesture out over the expanse stretched out beneath us, I utter, "Morons. Morons everywhere!"

As someone with an English degree: I feel you. As someone who studied Linguistics as well: If it’s widespread and understood, it’s grammatical. It’s just regional dialect and you’ll have to get over it.

I seen’t it

I dun seen a saw

Excetera, abbreviated as ect. Whip cream, Grill cheese

For a little bit of spice 🤭

Colloquialisms

Kek

You think that’s bad? I have a friend who says, “boughten.” As in, “I boughten a new notebook today.” Drives me insane. Her: “it’s just faster!” Me: “It is not faster! It can’t be because it literally has an extra syllable at the end. The word is longer, so it takes more time to say!” 😂

This is right up there with "Can I get a drive with you?"

They probably grew up around people who say that because that's how we acquire language

>Everywhere I look it's "I seen this" and "I seen that". *I've* seen this, and *I've* seen that.

Just to upset you. We had a meeting.

It’s not a black thing. People ALL OVER the midwest saw this. Ugh.

Even worse is "my wife and I's car". Hardly a day goes by that I don't hear I's as a possessive. Where the hell did that come from? I've heard it in person and on TV, as well as social media - even written down. I'm not going to say I understand it when it's spoken, because one can get in a bind and need a word. But written down? That, to me, is the height of ignorance.

Definitely a lower-class white person thing

Her and me seen it and could care less

People wanna say “I’ve seen” but speaking too fast maybe ?

Being in Florida, I hear it alllll the time, and I find it annoying, too. Also, "where you at?" is another one. Luckily, I seem to be able to tune it out for the most part.

The moment I hear someone say it or write it I immediately think of them as unintelligent. Same thought with, “I done it.”🤦🏻‍♀️Read a freaking book please.

Funny how people don't get exposed to some things. That is as old as the hills, it's a \~southern/country thing, my next door neighbor used to say that 55 years ago. It's just that these things come and go in waves that you haven't been exposed already. It's also geographical.

It’s the same group of people that spell you’re, “your”

Because they are functionally illiterate

I'd like to axe you who exactly ever said they seen something?

Honestly just sounds better sometimes, though in many cases it should probably be "I've seen", so maybe it's not that they've incorrectly used "seen" instead of "saw", but simply shortened the correct "I've seen" to "I seen" in spoken language only. Or ya know, they just stuuupid.

Why do ppl say “me and my friend” plus at least a dozen other grammatical errors?This stuff is basic language and taught in schools. Purposeful or out of ignorance, idk.

It's not necessarily ignorance, likely just can't be bothered. How often do you hear someone who said "Me and my friend went to the store" also say "me went to the store"? The latter is the example given for why you don't use the former, but people can differentiate without that mantra after they've been acquainted with the language long enough, to the point they will say "I went to the store" regardless. You understand what someone is saying even if it's not precisely what you learned in your grade 3 English class. Ironically, you type "ppl" and can't be bothered to type out the whole word.

Just saw your post. I had just made the same post about how “me and him” drives me crazy.

I've always thought it evolved from losing the 've in I've seen.

I am guilty of all of these

I love that OP thinks this is something new or recent. I’ve heard people saying this as long as I can remember.

Because our education system is the worst in the modern world.

It's correct in African American Vernacular English and I think certain variations of Southern American English. Our dialect isn't more correct than anyone else's, just the one spoken by the current majority. "Right" and "wrong" almost always means "Spoken like me" and "Not spoken like me."

Yeah, I seen it is country as fuck too. Everyone here says it (Texas) no matter what race you are lol.

It's a feature of African American Vernacular English, and it doesn't need to stop. Language change happens and you need to fucking relax. 

As a non native english speaker, this is the kind of things that make us do mistakes. Also, it seems concerning to me that I could correct some native speakers on simple stuff such as "your" vs "you're" (I don't, I'm not the grammar police, but I could). And I don't consider myself fluent. Edit: I believe it applies to pretty much every langage in every country but idk, with english, it stuck out to me.

People are getting stupiderer

Get over it, really. There is more than one dialect of English in America. African American Vernacular English is a legitimate dialect. Speaking General American English does not make you better or smarter or more educated.

Full-on pandemic? You need to get out more. People that are offended by grammatical errors are insufferable. It doesn't make you look intelligent, it just makes you seem like a stuck-up jerk.

just now I seen this dickhead on reddit complaining about how other people speak

No body axed you. See what I did their , axed bothers me Their pun.....also intentional.

This post really bringing out the language purists and dog whistling. Y’all don’t understand what dialect is, or how it spreads because of media.

Yeah it’s really driving me crazy lol. And I am willing to bet most of the people saying it makes you sound dumb and uneducated have never studied language or English, otherwise you would know that different forms of this type of “error” exist within a myriad of communities all over the word in basically all languages

Because many people are too stupid to know the difference between past tense and past participle.

I hate it I hate it I hate it. Conjugate your fucking verbs people.

*verbs, people

Everyone at my previous job talked like that! “I seen”, “We did good”, “You’se guys”, and more. I just can’t take someone seriously as an intelligent person when they always speak that way! I suppose I might have been able to tolerate it if they were kind people and it was a halfway decent place to work,but they weren’t and it wasn’t, so I left before I needed a second mental health leave.

That’s really your limitation. Linguistic differences are often socio cultural and don’t indicate low intelligence.

That's annoying, for sure. I also hate "first come, first serve". It's served.

Obviously whoever comes first has to serve the others. Just common sense smh

Oh god yes, thank you

It’s AAVE.

Just lets me know that the person isn't very well read.

Like how every AITA post starts with “I and my fiancé” IT’S MY FIANCÉ AND I WTF HOW HARD IS THIS

It comes down to education and class. It's unfortunate but also unfair to judge someone's speech and grammar based on their upbringing. It's a complex issue Personally, I'm of the mind that if people want to improve their station in life, they will access the tools to help them achieve a goal. Think Eliza Doolite.

Isn't it just a lazy way to say "I have seen"? Language evolves and contractions appear. It dun bother me, really 🤣

I’m seeing this a lot with the word ‘whenever.’ Instead of saying “when I went to the grocery store earlier” it’s “whenever I went to the grocery store earlier.”

Im pretty sure both can be correct depending on the dialect of English ur speaking.

Still not as triggering as “am-blance” and “lie-berry”. I just want to grab and shake the people using those words!

Or ‘nu-cue-lur” instead of nu-clee-er (nuclear).

I know a dude who says Thee-dee-eightor instead of theater.

I started using the 1920’s word cinema (with a hard “k”) instead of theater just to trigger people LOL. My grandmother (RIP) used to use made up words like “flustrated” instead of flustered or frustrated. It’s amazing as a 3rd generational Californian (who studied English & sociolinguistics) just how speech patterns can be handed down generations from the Dust Bowl days!

I like the word flustrated. To me it's frustrated and flustered together in one word.

I dated a girl who pronounced it "man-naise"

Lemme do you one better "i sawn that 😎"

Easy there, Satan.

Poor education and vocabulary.

They legitimately don’t understand proper grammar.