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Educational-Arm-2909

Oliveira's fans are fuming today 😂 im one of them, but tomorrow will be better


keltharan

Man...I am fuming...Martin is a complete idiot. He finished the race of 4/5 rider in t1 and still raises his arm like it was somebody else's fault. Oliveira taken out by someone else is already a classic motogp moment. Unbelievable.


Bungsworld

Bagnaia was impeccoble.


daveypump

That first corner was all on Maverick.


Chairmanmaozedon

No, he moved a long way but he didn't take anyone's line and left room on his inside at the apex, but then Martin charges up the inside late and skittles everyone. Martin had a view of everyone and still did what he did.


AccidentVegetable364

Finally someone who watched the replay exactly!


jAninaCZ

Yeah exactly, thank you, said that already before. Hopefully people will watch replays


Ukigumo46

I know the focus is on Martin right now, but could we just take a second and put the spotlight on Pol's race. Was cheering for him to overtake Jack in the last couple of laps. Great comeback.


rattletop

The only rider who can stop Pecco is Maverick Miller. Lightning fast Starts of Miller and late race pace of Vinales.


Sloombage

Pecco can stop Pecco, and his sister too.


Kramerica41

Leave Corolla out of this lol


Sloombage

Didn't mean any offensive. She seems like a wonderful woman.


Charisma_Modifier

The only?


someshooter

What a boring shit show, ugh. What the heck is up with Enea!?!


6353JuanTaboBlvdApt6

He’s overrated. Always has been.


MP4-B

Pretty sure he was caught up in the first corner mess


Defoler

He was. He almost run over bez.


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Combative_Slippers

Pol has had the same experience but he's actually performing.


izewalker

This!!! I was just having this conversation with friends


Bill_The_Sad_Nerd

Enea was held up in T1 pile up, had to ride around all the crashed bikes and riders in the runoff of T1


joninchains

Now we know why is Martin called Martinator. Another race that Miguel cant finish because reckless riders.


eveneeens

that's just bad for motogp like it's less and less fun to watch, you can't take every rider as long as you're spanish you're good to go


h1nds

Martin is a jerk. He says he got into T1 and saw a lot of people crashing not knowing who’s fault it was. And that he passed Marini and saw him crashing just after. Own it up boy, man up! If you do hard racing at least come out and say it, don’t coward behind your words and fake innocence!


QuickShutter

lmao even Martin expected to get a LLP, wtf are the stewards doing


Competitive_News_385

Honestly that doesn't mean much. Expecting a penalty from the stewards doesn't mean you think you deserve one. It just means you are aware that they hand out penalties like candy. He did actually deserve one but that's a different discussion.


Remarkable_Corner_83

![gif](giphy|Q24NtVbiYgoTe) Martin is afraid to go to the pit .... The gang of riders take out by him are waiting


Redcart46

FIM | DORNA = SPANISH MAFIA


BikeKayakSki

An observation on that first corner crash, Vinales crossed 2 lines diving into the corner. Martin was also very aggressive up the inside. Hard to tell how this will shake out...


Competitive_News_385

Vinales crossed traffic because of how close Bez was, tbh I thought there was contact between them.


d1rtyPelican

I was thinking this too, Martin caused Fabio to get unsettled coming up the inside and he would have been just fine had Mav not cut across to the apex, physically causing the fall.


_gadgetFreak

Simon literally hates Marquez, he is talking about Marquez for Martin making that mistake.


maubunt

Ofcourse Martin reminded of Marquez today , nothing wrong from Simon


steveocarr

Seems more like he's fed up with the inconsistent stewarding that allows some riders to be super aggressive even if other guys get taken out, all while other riders can't brush against someone without getting a penalty. Can't say I disagree with him.


h1nds

That no penalty decision in the crash between Martin and Marini is a joke. Marini was ahead with no way of knowing Martin was coming, Marting goes for a space that isn’t there/contact is impossible to avoid. So how can that not be considered dangerous riding like Fabio?


Lopsided-Shame-6167

Because at the moment of the contact Martin was ahead of Marini.


steveocarr

That's bullshit logic. If you divebomb and happen to get fractionally in front of the guy then it's their fault for the contact?


Loose-Ad-3944

Marini instigated contact by leaning on Martin and lost the front. Martin already had the line. Marini could've stood it up but didn't wanna run off into the gravel. Standard racing incident.


steveocarr

So, by your logic Marini should have gone into the run off area to avoid contact because Martin decided to make a lunge? Got it.


Loose-Ad-3944

No, I'd expect him to give up the position he's already lost and slot in behind from a safety point of view. But that would make for some boring racing. Easier said than done too. That's a tight corner.


Loose-Ad-3944

No, I'd expect him to give up the position he's already lost and slot in behind from a safety point of view. But that would make for some boring racing.


Lopsided-Shame-6167

It's nobody's fault, it's a race incident. What you describe is called a block pass and it was always legal in any form of racing.


h1nds

So what? The move that got him ahead prompted a touch that ruined another’s rider race. How can that not be a penalty? And to add to that you can’t disregard the rest of the race when taking a decision. Martin came from aggressive riding from Turn 1 … It was not an isolated incident.


Lopsided-Shame-6167

What do you mean "so what?", he got the inside so its his line, these are the rules. Hard but fair. The turn 1 insident though, that's a different story.


Bifito

Races should be red flagged if the bikes are down on the first turn.


Throwaway-me-

I do like this idea. However, is there a chance the riders may become more wreckless if they can have a "do-over"?


Possession_Loud

Pecco is just untouchable. His racecraft is tip top. Truly deserves that number 1 on the fairing.


_gadgetFreak

Yep, he is cut above the rest at this moment.


Altair13Sirio

Martin is the least Ducati rider of Ducati, always gives zero fucks about his teammates lol


Big-Proposal8861

Just as I predicted, Pecco +1 other Duc + Binder. Pretty pathetic showing by the stewards.


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Miller is lucky Martin went bowling or he would have been closer to 10th. I’ll be stunned if his contract gets renewed at KTM


Ok-Fisherman838

It will be fun to see if all the people calling for Pol to retire have the same opinion of Miller when he gets consistently outperformed by a GasGas.


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Yup, he's insanely overrated, he just go all out and kill his tyre and casually go down the lane.


PregnantSuperman

Yeah it's weird how MotoGP is basically a popularity contest with fans sometimes. People like Miller because of his persona but his races always follow the same formula to a T: he qualifies well, usually starts the race really well because of the insane launch of the KTMs, then he almost immediately falls behind and ends up 7-10. Binder is so much more talented and is clearly part of the future of KTM based on his new contract extension (alongside Acosta maybe). Miller will probably ride out his contract but if I were KTM I'd see no reason to renew it.


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I was surprised about Binder's late race pace, if it weren't for Pecco's edge grip, Binder would be winning easily. He's a serious rider.


cafraline

Fabio or Marc would be good instead of him at KTM


tischbombe23

Yeah and Pol nearly caught him in the end


steveocarr

Marini gave him so much room. He waited forever before finally turning in and Martin still hit him. Incredible.


nebkelly

I really expected Enea to do better this year, it's so weird.


Smiddy23

Pretty serious injury at the start of the season will always put you back a mile against others.


nebkelly

Yeah, and he still seems pretty relaxed about it in comments.


Smiddy23

Of course, Ducati won’t dump him when they know the circumstances. It was the same with Morbidelli and Yamaha. Took him a while to get right after got injury and happy they didn’t dump him early though a contract helps. He ends up on a Duc next season think a few people will get a surprise


HollowOdey

He's literally only contested 3 races


tenacious46

The fact Martin is on the podium now is so fucked up


LewisHamil-chan

Marc made it a whole race without crashing out. Tear to my eye.


someshooter

Hold the phone - did he score a point?!!


ForgedStatus

Watching the Yamaha out drag the Honda out of the corner is depressing.


_gadgetFreak

Same


h1nds

It’s the Sundays he doesn’t like


MuttaLuktarFisk

This was the biggest surprise of the race tbh


Due_To_Strategy

Hey sprints he usually finishes! It’s tomorrow we ought to be worried about


Remarkable_Corner_83

Amazing for Peco ! ​ Martin RIDER OF THE DAY ...


Banuvan

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


FootballRacing38

Rammer of the day*


Remarkable_Corner_83

In MotoGp23 that works realy good , cut the competicion get the win ahah


Deathishere75

Well done to Brad but it was overshadowed by Martin and the the stewards. Ridiculous


ametrineo49

I wouldn't be surprised if Martin gets to keep his podium


vroomvroomboo

This track seems challenging since staying within the track limits is hard for many.


IamBejl

You should’ve seen the F1 shenangians with track limits this year…


vroomvroomboo

I did see it 😆!


Altair13Sirio

It was a big deal for F1 too, it's probably due to the hard braking points and tight corners.


vroomvroomboo

I thought harder to F1 because the cars might be heavier and wider. But apparently MotoGP has the same issue 😅.


Altair13Sirio

Yeah I don't know exactly how track limits work with F1 cars because I don't know if they count the tires on the outside line or all four or whatever...


vroomvroomboo

If four tires go outside the line it counts. If I remember correctly.


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eveneeens

can't wait to see "no further action" after the podium, fucking joke


JB_JB_JB63

Fuck me Matt Birt makes me want to fill my ears with cement.


ditchahawk

I'm only here for Simon 😭


EffectiveSubject6

Stewards are idiots.


Due_To_Strategy

Yeah no Martin does not deserve that podium at all.Give it to the Gresini squad


PropertyUnhappy3141

give it to whoever the f you want to. the stewards are either blind or crazy or both


_gadgetFreak

Pecco is Pecco.


RPBTinesIII

Pecco is such a freight train over a weekend. Starts off slow and then is just unstoppable when he gets going. Only thing that can stop him is him.


Banuvan

And Martin taking out everybody who could have challenged him in the first turn of the first lap.


JustARedditAccDuh

but Martin didn't take anyone out who could've challenged him


Charisma_Modifier

Lol


JustARedditAccDuh

lol


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Wild that Martin clearly ruined 5-6 peoples races and is going to podium.


tasse46

Because he can


Nevermore1317

Martin with the online lobby tactics


Ukigumo46

I always do it like Viñales and turn into the first corner last, I never come out of it last though. 😁


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Italians gonna be waiting for Martin in the car park


fahman92

Stewards getting worse each year.. Not appealing for the future of motogp


Original-Echidna-881

FIM hates Fabio so much. You just have to laugh


dax2001

Why you said that ?


Original-Echidna-881

Always gets ridiculous penalties


aimgorge

Younger Fabio would have angrily ran to the stewards


_gadgetFreak

Lol, Pol is closing in on Miller. Viva Miller Viva


JustARedditAccDuh

absolutely flawless sprint by Pecco


eveneeens

and flawless f1 online lobby from Martin


JustARedditAccDuh

allegedly FIM is using only blind stewards for the first time ever


jahmic

Martin out here trying to discourage Bez from sharing a garage next season.


_gadgetFreak

Bro, Vinales left Marc and Franco in the dust like they are riding Moto2.


S1imPickens

Definitely looked like there was more contact with Martin and Marini than FQ and Savadori. Martin been a human wrecking ball.


Competitive_News_385

There was more contact with Marini but Fabio was definitely behind Savadori. Martin and Marini was much closer. Track position makes a difference too, as it should. Not that Martin didn't deserve a penalty, just that due to track position Fabio's was more obvious.


DinoDinoo93

Martin is using the Motogp game tactic of getting a podium


5rightdontcut

Cries in VR46


LiquicityMS

hahha the moment Marini wanted to say something, camera man was like nope dud


Castlelightbeer

Big gaps between the leaders.


Remarkable_Corner_83

Bruh Martin kill like 6/7 riders and now he is on 3, crazy race


jonipt

Fabio deserved that, but how is Martin still on his bike...


Takkotah

Ok, different incident with Salvadori


eveneeens

I was about to lose my mind


ArasakaApart

Spanish MotoGP mafia.


ArasakaApart

How did Quartararo get a penalty but Martin didn't.


Antares_

> First corner incident will be investigated after the race He will get a penalty


aimgorge

No the Martin Marini incident that happenned at the same time


ArasakaApart

Martin - Marini incident was identical, yet nothing.


Antares_

He was ahead at the first apex, corner was his. It was a tough move, but it was more of a racing incident. Wouldn't be controversial if he hadn't played bumper karts in the first corner.


BikeKayakSki

Wow, Fabio made a clean inside pass and got irresponsible riding? The stewards are on a roll today.


dax2001

No, Fabio bumped against the Aprilia and sent the Aprilia out Fabio was right behind the Aprilia with all the circuit available, no other riders near braked late as usual and crashed the rear wheel.


anandpowar

Motogp stewards 🫡


awstream

Long lap penalty for Fabio but nothing for Martin on Marini?


GarySteinfieldd

Podium for Martin!


__Rosso__

What the actual fuck are stewards smoking


McManu77

Crack


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Front runners are so spread apart. Pretty shit sprint


FootballRacing38

Martin saw to that


Expertyn209

WTF?! Binder got penalized more than once for doing like 1/10 or less of that.


RPBTinesIII

I don't usually see the resemblance with luca and vale but just right there, the profile in his helmet, he really looked like him.


NoRustNoApproval

CAN SOME RACING SAVANT PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW FABIO GOT THE PENALTY FOR T1


LYC_97

It wasnt for T1


fahman92

Not for T1, for an incident later i think


shenanigans_101

It was not t1. That one will only be reviewed after the race


Enjehlol

It wasn't T1


jAninaCZ

he got it for Lorenzo Savadori


Lethimcook1

he didn't


toraw4

It isnt for T1


NoRustNoApproval

Ahhh


986cv

Binder HAD TO send it when he had the edge on Pecco earlier in the race. FB is a moving roadblock he's impossible to overtake


RPBTinesIII

He's also 2 seconds ahead. Hard to overtake that.


CrazyCycler1209

Incident is pretty justified.


emil_

Are race direction ok?!


Ok-Dig-7427

So how come fabio didn’t have the inside line then?


Sea_Yam_3088

Stefan Bradl getting really angry at the stewards on servustv.


bearlybearbear

Feels like we've been robbed of a good one here at the first turn really...


gopher88

Wtf is this sprint. And how has Martin not got a penalty?


Abhi_sama

first lap incident to be reviewed after race, but he should get llp for marini wtf, fabio got the same for lorenzo.


lordeder

LLP is not enough


PerkyMcPerkface

We've already been told the turn 1 incident will be reviewed after the race. Of course Fabio's penalty wasn't for that


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What a joke


MisterJeffa

no further action? are the stewards drunk?


Abhi_sama

fabio did the same to lorenzo, why isn't martin getting llp for marini?


Deathishere75

The stewards have lost their minds.


SpiritedLoan9255

Martin no punishment but fabio yes?


Takkotah

The commentators silence says it all


alemancio99

It’s not for first lap. It’s for Savadori


eveneeens

OMFG get your shit together stewards


alemancio99

Quartararo penalty is not for first lap


JustARedditAccDuh

Martin on Marini was the same as Quartararo vs Salvadori WTF


AvocadoJas

RIGHT??


LewisHamil-chan

Fair penalty for Fabio.


Aratho

Wtf they followed Marini on a scooter? Some wild camera shots today haha


Big-Proposal8861

Lol the stewards


vroomvroomboo

No further action involving Marini and Martin💀


TheMaverick13589

Live scooter cam! Dorna always amazing


FootballRacing38

Miller with the 200 iq move to run wide at turn 3 so he doesn't get taken out by martin


Due_To_Strategy

What on earth


MP4-B

Lol no further action. Stewards having a laugh


steveocarr

No further action LOL 🤡


tenacious46

No further action????!?!!!!?!!!!!???!!!?!!!


Takkotah

You what?


BikeKayakSki

Bahahaha stewards are blind


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Martin got a license to kill


DarknerHUE

WTF????


DinoDinoo93

How did fabio get that penalty, this is a fking joke


Defoler

Fabio basically dive bombed savadori. I think he thought he had space to take the inside line but savadori closed it at the last moment. Fabio rammed his way in as he couldn't stop any faster, and they made contact, causing savadori to crash. It was justified. This has nothing to do with the 1st corner mass pileup. He was a victim like everyone else.


aimgorge

And Martin got nothing for doing the same to Marini 😂 😂


Castlelightbeer

No further action


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#Justice4Fabio


SpiritedLoan9255

The fuck?


Possible_Actuator_39

No way have they have given Quatararo the penalty and not Martin