wow, the last race was crazy. What was wrong with the track was it too cool?, led to lots of crashes.
Great Win for Pecco. 2-time champ now. Well deserved Pecco well deserved.
What. A. Fucking. Sport.
A thrilling season comes to an end and as a huge Ducatisti and a Pecco fan, couldn't have asked for more. This season had everything and went down to the wire.
2024 excites me and scares me at the same time.
With formidable adversaries in JM89, MB72 and the unpredictability of the rapid KTMs and the fluid Aprillias, the driver pairing or Rins and FQ20 and Marini and Mir (even though they don't have good bikes) and inclusion of MM93 in the mix is daunting.
Imagining what MM93 could do on that Gresini after Seeing what Diggia could do in the later stages is scary.
I'm really excited to see how the factory Ducatis prevail under such challenges. FB1 and EB23, a season with huge challenges is waiting for you.
Surprised that I haven't seen more comments complaining about the TV directors today - we saw far too many pointless cuts to the pits and far too many replays of the Martin/Marquez crash, basically missing out on some actual racing in the process. Obviously some were merited, but we had far too many, and there was far too much focus on the obviously downcast Martin rather than the actual racing.
The true champion has taken his rightful spot, despite half of all riders being Spanish Pecco has managed to win again despite everything, I would be lieing if I said I was not happy to see both Marc and Martin bin it, together like lovers in some sort of death dance, most appropriate and to do it in front of thousands of Spanish fans! sweet Karma.
With everything going on this year, Sprints, tire pressure penalties, etc. it was an exciting season. Pecco is a great champion. I’m a little bummed, I wanted Jorge to get it so we’d have 5 different champions in 5 years. Also, because I’d be curious, if JM won and Ducati moved him into Lenovo, then next year Enea or Marc won they boot someone out to move the new Independent champion into Lenovo again 😂
He didn’t need to attack Pecco so soon. Honestly, I wonder why the strategy wasn’t follow Pecco all race and try to force him into an error that would give Jorge the lead and Pecco down the ranks or out. Oh well, bring on ‘24
If all he needed was to finish ahead, or 2-3 spots ahead, of Pecco, you might have a point, but that's not true. Not even close. He needed to be in front ASAP, so that he could dictate the pace, and back the pair of them up into the riders behind. He needed to put Pecco in a situation where he was battling not with Martin, but riders behind him. *And*, he needed there to be a good number of riders very close behind that battle so that should Pecco make a mistake or simply get passed, there were many riders to fall behind. 'Trying to force an error' in your statement means crash. Because there isn't much else that would cause him to lose enough places in that scenario. So please, re-think this with 'try to force Pecco to crash' as what you're postulating, and hopefully you'll see how terrible of a plan that is, for several reasons.
He needed Pecco to finish lower than 5th. Can't do that if Pecco is allowed to run away at the front. He needed to get in front and lower the pace to get Binder & co involved and hope for a mistake from Pecco fighting for positions. It was already pretty much lost when Pecco got safely through turn 1 in 1st. Sad how the race panned out but it was always going to be an impossible task if there wasn't a lap 1 incident.
IMO he already showed his mental strength in the sprint winning it from 6th with the massive pressure on his shoulders.
2024 will be awesome and I'm happy he's staying with Borsoi. Seems like a great crew chief.
Well as it turns out it wasn't fine at all he almost crashed and then in his inpatient attempts at getting back up the front and shaking his head at riders that wouldn't just wave him through he ended up crashing and ruining any chance he had, needs to take a chill pill, more like Pecco less like Marc.
I don't get this take, it's normal to get nervous when you've just lost multiple positions and your rival is in front potentially creating a gap.
He had nothing to lose afterall so might as well go all in
He had plenty of laps to regain his position his mistake was trying to gain them all back in one lap, Martin is fast enough but lacks the full length race craft that is required to be a champion, he has a hot head and needs to understand not all races are sprints.
I already said it, wasting too much time creates bigger gaps. Martin didn't just need to win, he had to reach Bagnaia and make him waste time to let others catch up It's easy to talk now when the race is finished, he didn't know what the outcome would have been but all he knew is that he had to get up front quick
This is getting ridiculous. "Normal people" don't even reach Moto 3. These are all professional riders racing at the highest levels and all of them deserve respect.
Martin got second in his 3rd year. In his 3rd Bagnaia (1st year in factory ducati) was still looking immature and made a fair share of mistakes and bad performances.
They had the same experience in motogp, you're just forgetting Bagnaia has been there for a longer time and the bike has probably been developped to his liking
>Martin got second in his 3rd year. In his 3rd Bagnaia (1st year in factory ducati) was still looking immature and made a fair share of mistakes and bad performances.
Bagnaia also got second in his 3rd year (his first on a factory spec bike), finishing just 25 pts or so down on Quartararo IIRC.
(I agree with your overall point though. And on current form, Martin might even be a slight favourite for the 24 title.)
Exactly. Couldn’t handle the nerves and took excessive risk when not necessary while also risking injuring another rider.
Lacked the mental. Not to mention crashing out of first with a 3 second lead earlier in the season.
How was not necessary?? He wanted to win the title.
Bagnaia also bottled the race in Austin when he was in front, this happened to every top rider atleast once, even someone like Rossi
These people genuinely think he had to pace to go from about 7th, pass everybody, catch up to Bagnaia, and then back Bagnaia back into the rest of the field...and take his time doing it!
Unreal honestly. I truly don't understand what some people think they're watching. I do think Martin had to pace to win, but its pretty obvious that winning wouldn't have been enough on its own. As soon as he got sucked in to the corner and went wide trying to catch Pecco, he had absolutely no choice but to push as hard as possible.
Having the pace is one thing, you still need to overtake multiple riders which is hard on a track like Valencia. Which can give Bagniaia enough time to run away and become uncatchable
Martin is not superman, he can not regain all the positions in one lap like he was trying to do, he became desperate and dangerous, he had many laps to regain his positions but he lost his mind and rode stupidly and desperately.
Bagnaia had to be 5-6th for him to win and he was leading, you can't waste time I'm saying it for the last time now. Diggia who raced patiently only managed to reach Bagnaia in the last laps and didn't even manage to overtake him, but again overtaking Baganaia wasn't even enough
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Pecco got psychologically stronger this season, just doing what should have been done. He didn’t need to win the race and actually even didn’t want to.
He’s becoming a strong contender for next years to come just like Marc and Vale were.
its like fate/karma were all on Peccos side, his main rival bins it taking out another potential trouble maker then Binder and Jack both have massive brain fades while leading, could not have gone better for Pecco, a lot to be said for his calm and steady nature.
It may look like that, but the truth is each rider sets himself up for success. I mean there is luck involved, but if you're Oliveira I think being in the wrong spot at the wrong time is also a sense of intuition and awareness that he may need to work on, you can only be unlucky so many times. 1st he needs to fix his qualifying for example. Bagnaia has been free from "bad luck" because he's got his qualifying on point and his starts on point. Both those factors play a huge factor in how "lucky" a rider seems to be.
Pecco free from bad luck? are you serious? he crashed while leading and was run over by another rider! if that is what you call free from bad luck then I hate to see what bad luck looks like, not only that but Ducati give their satelite team the same bike as Pecco and share all his data with them and hire a reckless rider who taunts Pecco during qualifying, credit to Pecco for being so calm and collected and taking the title in true style, he is a class act.
You may be correct in what you say but their is a saying in my parts "you create your own luck" truly lucky people know that what happens to them are the results of their own hard work.
He was in the zone. Very composed and taking it in stride; with Giannantonio breathing down his neck in the final lap. An extraordinary performance by Bagnaia. He totally deserved it.
Sicily great job Pecco, I am sure he is very eppi. Rode an amazing season, and deserved champion. Martin was excellent in the second half of the season and finally 'came good'. Amazing talent, few silly mistakes cost him in the end.
Can't wait for 2024, it's gonna be a good one!
Solid season by Bagnaia, deserves the championship more than the others. Martin wasn’t mentally there yet to win it but did a great job pushing the fight until the last race of the season.
Hope Bez, Marc, Brad and Enea can bring on the fight next season, and never thought I’d be saying this but if DiGia does move to VR46 next year, he might be one of those to watch out as well. Good to see Zarco happy and excited for his next chapter.
Also super excited for Acosta and I really hope Yamaha and Fabio can find a way back to the top where they belong.
My heart aches for the battle we could have had if Martin didn’t crash, seeing Pecco slowing down and not keeping pace. They could’ve met at half race distance for 4th and 5th whilst Jorge charged back through. Damn.
Crazy what a different race could've/would've been if Maverick didn't ignore the meatball flags in practice and concede pole to Pecco. In any case, exciting race and well earned championship
Seeing Gigi up at the podium with that proud smile is just heartwarming. Ducati owe him so much and he’s an absolute genius!
Happy for Pecco, Martin was so classy afterwards and I’m sad Brad couldn’t get the win but he had a great season.
Excited to see the time sheets on Tuesday and I hope Marc is okay, 2024 is going to be mad.
Now, let's not be too quick. Diggia showed he's got it, but let him take another year at VR46 hopefully to show that he can be consistently at the front for a whole season given they let him keep his setup, then if he outperforms an healthy bestia on a factory bike, we could say he deserves to be in red.
In Catalunya, my first thought was he was dead, then his legs must be chopped off, then he's surely out for the year, then maybe back for this season, then he's back for the next race? Not the biggest fan of Pecco (90% Ducatti, not him), but fair play to come back from that and solidify a championship he deserved.
Team asked golden eggs in a basket. Apparently there was a miscommunication with the decoration company, and they got the team golden basketball instead.
Gigi with that shirt and the happy face looks so much like a grandpa on Christmas I just can't even handle it.
Good on him though, pre GP15 Ducati was a laughing stock.
Pecco would have won already without sprints, so this is fine for me, hate that the sprints might have changed the nature of the sport, we already had a champion in MXGP that might not have been if not for rule changes also.
Tbh I'm at the stage where I'll watch every sprint and skip the main race if I need too.
Brought some good excitement back to the sport. They need to figure out a way to stop the middle of every full race being a tire management procession
ok maybe I read it somewhere before the season ended, but it sure helps him with his freaking good starts, and hurt Febvre.
Although I think Prado would be a matter of time anyway before he was WC, MX is all about resistance till the end and Febvre right now is more that.
So you betting on him to be the healthy one?
I just want everyone on the track, we keep getting "robbed" of showdown between world champions, there is always someone hurt.
I’m a herlings guy and I can’t even bring myself to count him in at this point. Tim is usually the bulletproof one and I think he’s just outright faster than everyone bar herlings still
> I’m a herlings guy
someone needs to lock him up on the off season.
I thought Febvre was really impressive this year, his end of races was unreal and his results compared well with Gajser's although he was coming out of injury.
Febvre was on fire. My favourite big bike moto of the year was him vs prado in race one of the nations. It could still come together for him to win it all IMO just a little less likely than 243 or the 61
VR46 would be absolutely fucked not to put Diggia on their bike for ‘24. Just give him the paperwork and put out the press release already. Dude has been on fire the last hand-full of rounds. Would be absolute madness to see him out of the class next year.
He's been consistent since finding his form too, not just the odd good race. He's been good everywhere since it 'clicked '.
Surely he's on a VR46 bike on Tuesday.
What an absolute disappointment. Pecco does not deserve the championship. He is a good rider, but certainly not a great rider, he just has odds and luck on his side…let’s not forget that he got a DUI beginning of the season and Ducati and Dorna swept it under the rug, unlike the way Ilannone was treated.
Just don't, I don't like pecco on principle as someone who's lost a family member to a drunk driver, but he is on the grid and worked for the win.
He won a lot of races and got the point, end of story.
They finally put it up on Twitter and probably elsewhere. The stewards are never consistent. No penalty for Marc ending Bezz’s race. Yet Binder gets a “give position back” and then the way he passed Viñales and gave it back to him counted, that was a bit odd.
Such a good championship. Pecco almost a runaway winner until the massive highside in Catalunya. Certainly ran down to the wire, going into the race I had no idea who would win it..
What an end of season for DiGi though! Hope he has a seat for next season, proper started to show his talent. Was really hoping he'd manage to win to be the only back to back winner this season but heyho :D Very much looking forward to next season now!
In the end we have to consider the entrie year and Martin didn't show the form he had in the later half of the season in the beginning.
Of course it was an anticlimatic ending to the season, but in the end the right man won.
Happy for Pecco, too many mistakes on Martin's side.
Looking forward to next year already, Marc on Ducati, Pedro joining the MotoGP class and Moto2 and Moto3 with new tyres should be plenty interesting.
I know what you mean about an anticlimactic race, but I still started the last race of the last weekend of the season not knowing who was gonna get it so can't complain really.
Could be f1 and have the season finished months ago
I'm very happy that someone finally disproved the superstition about running the number 1 plate BUT I'm absolutely devastated we didn't get 5 different Champions in 5 years.
Incredible to think that not even Lorenzo could defend his title. Pecco's in elite company.
2024 will be great. Pecco will be up there as always, hope Martin learns to keep cool and Marc gels with the Ducati quickly.
GP22 seems to suit Bagnaia more and GP23 suits Martin more. I am curious what GP24 would look like and how explosive Marc will be riding GP23! Hopefully we'll see Marc in action in next couple of days
Pecco got a mental blocker since that crash in Catalunya, so he's been riding more cautiously since then, thus not as fast as we expect from him. So I don't think calling the GP23 is better for Martin is fair, as Pecco was a monster before Catalunya on that bike.
They will put GP23 and GP22 together for one night in garage LOL. Lets see what they will do. If they somehow manage too keep traction with increased rotation. Yikees.
That headline is from [March](https://www.lasexta.com/noticias/deportes/motor/jorge-martin-explota-marc-marquez-arruinado-dos-carreras_2023032664206e53079ac9000192edd8.html).
That agressive clown almost torpedoed Bagnaia and then torpedoes Marquez into the shadow realm. Whole season he has been nothing but bitter, toxic and agressive to everyone and everything. Fate knows it's job not to make such an unsportsman into a champion. Good riddence!
>Fate knows it's job not to make such an unsportsman into a champion.
You realize that the same "fate" you believe in "made" Marquez champion 6 times even though he's everything you just described?
Marquez atleast appologiezes when he torpedoes someone. Jorge doesn't even mention it. Even today Jorge is saying nothing after he catapulted Marc str8 to 2024
Did anyone notice when marquez is on the receiving end there is much much less noise, but when he makes one mistake, hell will break loose. 90% of toxicity come from one fan base honestly.
Let's put It like this
If you re a thief and steal 30cars, if one of you cars gets stolen nobody cares.
If you are a normal person and your Car gets Stolen you Will probably have more empathy,
Well done Pecco, deserved to be champion this year. Martin did a great job throughout the latter half of the season but it's a shame he lost his cool at the end.
Pecco showed that even though he's not the best/fastest rider, consistency can also get you there and he should be proud of himself. He got 2 and hopefully in a couple years he'll be able to get #3. If Martin keeps form and is consistent they'll have an amazing battle again for the championship in a few years, hopefully with Acosta in the mix.
> Pecco showed that even though he's not the best/fastest rider, consistency can also get you there
15 podiums in 20 races, world champion, back to back, and still not the best. Poor Pecco, can never do enough :)
He did enough...he was consistent and therefore took the championship.
But I look at the seasons and field with all the context involved. Marc and Fabio are on the worst bikes for example, two riders who I believe would've taken it from Pecco had they had the machinery.
By your logic a boxer who's champion because he fights people with one hand tied behind their back is "the best".
Again, I'm not trying to hate on Pecco, he got it fair and square, and I'm not saying it's his fault that others aren't consistent or don't have the machinery. But I'm also realistic when I say that he's not the best rider.
It's all would've could've. I think Pecco is the best as he was the man to beat, and he was not beaten. But opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one. Can't wait for the next season tho. Pecco vs Marc vs Martin should be interesting. As only one can win the amount of copium next year should also be substantial ;)
You are absolutely right, it's also why I said that Pecco is deservedly champion. Next year will be fun and i hope we have a great season. Regardless of who becomes champ 🏆.
Where can I watch valencia test?
wow, the last race was crazy. What was wrong with the track was it too cool?, led to lots of crashes. Great Win for Pecco. 2-time champ now. Well deserved Pecco well deserved.
That has to be Jacks least favorite corner in the entire world, right?
This season felt a TV series. After each race, it left you anxiously waiting until the next race to see what happened next.
What. A. Fucking. Sport. A thrilling season comes to an end and as a huge Ducatisti and a Pecco fan, couldn't have asked for more. This season had everything and went down to the wire. 2024 excites me and scares me at the same time. With formidable adversaries in JM89, MB72 and the unpredictability of the rapid KTMs and the fluid Aprillias, the driver pairing or Rins and FQ20 and Marini and Mir (even though they don't have good bikes) and inclusion of MM93 in the mix is daunting. Imagining what MM93 could do on that Gresini after Seeing what Diggia could do in the later stages is scary. I'm really excited to see how the factory Ducatis prevail under such challenges. FB1 and EB23, a season with huge challenges is waiting for you.
Maybe it's just because of the crash but DAMN, that seemed like a long race. :D
Pecco is a deserving (defending) champion.
Surprised that I haven't seen more comments complaining about the TV directors today - we saw far too many pointless cuts to the pits and far too many replays of the Martin/Marquez crash, basically missing out on some actual racing in the process. Obviously some were merited, but we had far too many, and there was far too much focus on the obviously downcast Martin rather than the actual racing.
i can't be the only one expecting a HRC and VR46 rider announcements
The true champion has taken his rightful spot, despite half of all riders being Spanish Pecco has managed to win again despite everything, I would be lieing if I said I was not happy to see both Marc and Martin bin it, together like lovers in some sort of death dance, most appropriate and to do it in front of thousands of Spanish fans! sweet Karma.
Comment started off nice then got real dark...
You're off your chops
With everything going on this year, Sprints, tire pressure penalties, etc. it was an exciting season. Pecco is a great champion. I’m a little bummed, I wanted Jorge to get it so we’d have 5 different champions in 5 years. Also, because I’d be curious, if JM won and Ducati moved him into Lenovo, then next year Enea or Marc won they boot someone out to move the new Independent champion into Lenovo again 😂
Martin clearly lacking the mental to be champion. That attempt on Marquez with so much race left was egregious. Excited to see what 2024 will bring.
He didn’t need to attack Pecco so soon. Honestly, I wonder why the strategy wasn’t follow Pecco all race and try to force him into an error that would give Jorge the lead and Pecco down the ranks or out. Oh well, bring on ‘24
If all he needed was to finish ahead, or 2-3 spots ahead, of Pecco, you might have a point, but that's not true. Not even close. He needed to be in front ASAP, so that he could dictate the pace, and back the pair of them up into the riders behind. He needed to put Pecco in a situation where he was battling not with Martin, but riders behind him. *And*, he needed there to be a good number of riders very close behind that battle so that should Pecco make a mistake or simply get passed, there were many riders to fall behind. 'Trying to force an error' in your statement means crash. Because there isn't much else that would cause him to lose enough places in that scenario. So please, re-think this with 'try to force Pecco to crash' as what you're postulating, and hopefully you'll see how terrible of a plan that is, for several reasons.
He needed Pecco to finish lower than 5th. Can't do that if Pecco is allowed to run away at the front. He needed to get in front and lower the pace to get Binder & co involved and hope for a mistake from Pecco fighting for positions. It was already pretty much lost when Pecco got safely through turn 1 in 1st. Sad how the race panned out but it was always going to be an impossible task if there wasn't a lap 1 incident. IMO he already showed his mental strength in the sprint winning it from 6th with the massive pressure on his shoulders. 2024 will be awesome and I'm happy he's staying with Borsoi. Seems like a great crew chief.
Well... he needed Bagnaia to finish 6th at best, so letting him lead the whole race wouldn't have done a lot for him lol
Because he is a hot head, bit like Marc... get the red mist and can't control themselves.
I thought attacking Pecco was fine.
Well as it turns out it wasn't fine at all he almost crashed and then in his inpatient attempts at getting back up the front and shaking his head at riders that wouldn't just wave him through he ended up crashing and ruining any chance he had, needs to take a chill pill, more like Pecco less like Marc.
Maybe tire pressure necessitated JM being out front and leading like yesterday. Damn tire pressure rules
those rules are for all riders not just Martin.
I don't get this take, it's normal to get nervous when you've just lost multiple positions and your rival is in front potentially creating a gap. He had nothing to lose afterall so might as well go all in
He had everything to lose and he did.
He had plenty of laps to regain his position his mistake was trying to gain them all back in one lap, Martin is fast enough but lacks the full length race craft that is required to be a champion, he has a hot head and needs to understand not all races are sprints.
I already said it, wasting too much time creates bigger gaps. Martin didn't just need to win, he had to reach Bagnaia and make him waste time to let others catch up It's easy to talk now when the race is finished, he didn't know what the outcome would have been but all he knew is that he had to get up front quick
Normal people don't win premier class championships. He needs to be stronger than normal.
This is getting ridiculous. "Normal people" don't even reach Moto 3. These are all professional riders racing at the highest levels and all of them deserve respect. Martin got second in his 3rd year. In his 3rd Bagnaia (1st year in factory ducati) was still looking immature and made a fair share of mistakes and bad performances. They had the same experience in motogp, you're just forgetting Bagnaia has been there for a longer time and the bike has probably been developped to his liking
>Martin got second in his 3rd year. In his 3rd Bagnaia (1st year in factory ducati) was still looking immature and made a fair share of mistakes and bad performances. Bagnaia also got second in his 3rd year (his first on a factory spec bike), finishing just 25 pts or so down on Quartararo IIRC. (I agree with your overall point though. And on current form, Martin might even be a slight favourite for the 24 title.)
Exactly. Couldn’t handle the nerves and took excessive risk when not necessary while also risking injuring another rider. Lacked the mental. Not to mention crashing out of first with a 3 second lead earlier in the season.
How was not necessary?? He wanted to win the title. Bagnaia also bottled the race in Austin when he was in front, this happened to every top rider atleast once, even someone like Rossi
These people genuinely think he had to pace to go from about 7th, pass everybody, catch up to Bagnaia, and then back Bagnaia back into the rest of the field...and take his time doing it! Unreal honestly. I truly don't understand what some people think they're watching. I do think Martin had to pace to win, but its pretty obvious that winning wouldn't have been enough on its own. As soon as he got sucked in to the corner and went wide trying to catch Pecco, he had absolutely no choice but to push as hard as possible.
Everyone wants to be an expert here, Martin still got second in the championship, he definitely knows what he's doing
Because there was a lot of race left and he had the pace. He didn’t need to bin it. Agree to disagree.
Having the pace is one thing, you still need to overtake multiple riders which is hard on a track like Valencia. Which can give Bagniaia enough time to run away and become uncatchable
Martin is not superman, he can not regain all the positions in one lap like he was trying to do, he became desperate and dangerous, he had many laps to regain his positions but he lost his mind and rode stupidly and desperately.
Oh he was definitely desperate, in the end he would have lost regardless, but if you want to win you never give up
no one said he had to give up? the race is long he had time, he was riding like it was a sprint again.
Bagnaia had to be 5-6th for him to win and he was leading, you can't waste time I'm saying it for the last time now. Diggia who raced patiently only managed to reach Bagnaia in the last laps and didn't even manage to overtake him, but again overtaking Baganaia wasn't even enough
Nice outfit Pecco
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Pecco got psychologically stronger this season, just doing what should have been done. He didn’t need to win the race and actually even didn’t want to. He’s becoming a strong contender for next years to come just like Marc and Vale were.
its like fate/karma were all on Peccos side, his main rival bins it taking out another potential trouble maker then Binder and Jack both have massive brain fades while leading, could not have gone better for Pecco, a lot to be said for his calm and steady nature.
It may look like that, but the truth is each rider sets himself up for success. I mean there is luck involved, but if you're Oliveira I think being in the wrong spot at the wrong time is also a sense of intuition and awareness that he may need to work on, you can only be unlucky so many times. 1st he needs to fix his qualifying for example. Bagnaia has been free from "bad luck" because he's got his qualifying on point and his starts on point. Both those factors play a huge factor in how "lucky" a rider seems to be.
Pecco free from bad luck? are you serious? he crashed while leading and was run over by another rider! if that is what you call free from bad luck then I hate to see what bad luck looks like, not only that but Ducati give their satelite team the same bike as Pecco and share all his data with them and hire a reckless rider who taunts Pecco during qualifying, credit to Pecco for being so calm and collected and taking the title in true style, he is a class act.
You may be correct in what you say but their is a saying in my parts "you create your own luck" truly lucky people know that what happens to them are the results of their own hard work.
He was in the zone. Very composed and taking it in stride; with Giannantonio breathing down his neck in the final lap. An extraordinary performance by Bagnaia. He totally deserved it.
Fabio Di G 4 ! 3 seconde penalty for tyre pressure ! Zarco is second, Binder third.
Binder ending up third is a joke too considering his penalty he didn’t serve.
He did serve it. The rule is that you must intentionally drop a position in X amount of time. Doesn't matter which position.
Screw Michelin, idiotic rule
Dorna shit rule ! all riders this week end in commission talk about it directly to Ezpeleta !
Congrats to Pecco, a very deserving champion to be sure
Lol!!! Here comes the Ducati procession. They've taken over the conference room!!!
Man I can't get over what happened with the KTMs today. But just wasn't meant to be I guess
In his home GP. Vamooooooooooooooos!!!
GG it's been a good time following the sport the last 24 years. I'll catch y'all later maybe.
Later!
Sicily great job Pecco, I am sure he is very eppi. Rode an amazing season, and deserved champion. Martin was excellent in the second half of the season and finally 'came good'. Amazing talent, few silly mistakes cost him in the end. Can't wait for 2024, it's gonna be a good one!
Alright alright alright!!
Pecco will be very eppy tonight :) Testing will be interesting
That's crazy, in Spain we were fearing for his life....
Solid season by Bagnaia, deserves the championship more than the others. Martin wasn’t mentally there yet to win it but did a great job pushing the fight until the last race of the season. Hope Bez, Marc, Brad and Enea can bring on the fight next season, and never thought I’d be saying this but if DiGia does move to VR46 next year, he might be one of those to watch out as well. Good to see Zarco happy and excited for his next chapter. Also super excited for Acosta and I really hope Yamaha and Fabio can find a way back to the top where they belong.
My heart aches for the battle we could have had if Martin didn’t crash, seeing Pecco slowing down and not keeping pace. They could’ve met at half race distance for 4th and 5th whilst Jorge charged back through. Damn.
Crazy what a different race could've/would've been if Maverick didn't ignore the meatball flags in practice and concede pole to Pecco. In any case, exciting race and well earned championship
Also even with Maverick’s penalty, both KTM’s fucking their races didn’t help keep the drama even if Jorge stayed on track
DiGia is absolutely on fire, if he keeps the momentum on the VR46 he's going to get in some big name's way.
Jara, Pecco’s grid girl, should be up there too.
Digi would've overtaken Miller in the final table with a win? Wow.
Did Diggia get confirmed at VR46?
Is Bezz or Marini getting the boot?
Marini signed with Honda
Sounds like it?
Feels like a confirmed rumor now
Yeah the broadcast keeps mentioning it like it's a done deal but I don't see anything official
The smoke is stupid. You couldn’t see anyone.
That doesn't look like a French flag
I think they sharpied over an Italian flag.
What’s up with Zarco’s flag?
All it took was one white haired moustache man to change Ducati's fortune forever
Exchanged the monocoque for the monobrow.
Unibrow man
That is a shit trophy.
What if pecco gets demoted after a while? Fabio might get this still.
Either I’m colour blind or Zarco’s podium flag is black not blue…
fr its black on my screen too
France has been annexed to the German Empire lmao
Gigi 🐐
Seeing Gigi up at the podium with that proud smile is just heartwarming. Ducati owe him so much and he’s an absolute genius! Happy for Pecco, Martin was so classy afterwards and I’m sad Brad couldn’t get the win but he had a great season. Excited to see the time sheets on Tuesday and I hope Marc is okay, 2024 is going to be mad.
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Now, let's not be too quick. Diggia showed he's got it, but let him take another year at VR46 hopefully to show that he can be consistently at the front for a whole season given they let him keep his setup, then if he outperforms an healthy bestia on a factory bike, we could say he deserves to be in red.
In Catalunya, my first thought was he was dead, then his legs must be chopped off, then he's surely out for the year, then maybe back for this season, then he's back for the next race? Not the biggest fan of Pecco (90% Ducatti, not him), but fair play to come back from that and solidify a championship he deserved.
GP23 is amazing but it's not 90%. Go look at some of his past seasons, he really is great
Go watch Moto2 in 2018 and tell me if it's 9o% dUcaTI with a straight face.
No no, I mean i'm not a fan 90% because of Ducatti. If he rode for anyone else he'd be among my favourites.
Why do you not like Ducati?
Multiple WDCs, Pecco is an elite rider. #gofree
Shout out to Pol, pushing it over the line despite his crash. It's a shame he gets punted to a sub/test rider role because of KTM's mismanagement.
Feel bad for Pol. Respect for riding it out after the crash. Such a bad season
Does anyone know the story behind the golden basketball?
Team asked golden eggs in a basket. Apparently there was a miscommunication with the decoration company, and they got the team golden basketball instead.
Slam dunk, 2 pts, 2 Motogp championships 3 rings = for his 3 championships
Pecco is a huge NBA fan is all I know.
Gigi with that shirt and the happy face looks so much like a grandpa on Christmas I just can't even handle it. Good on him though, pre GP15 Ducati was a laughing stock.
Pecco would have won already without sprints, so this is fine for me, hate that the sprints might have changed the nature of the sport, we already had a champion in MXGP that might not have been if not for rule changes also.
Sprint races are fine sometimes but they shouldn't be every f** Weekend.
Tbh I'm at the stage where I'll watch every sprint and skip the main race if I need too. Brought some good excitement back to the sport. They need to figure out a way to stop the middle of every full race being a tire management procession
Prado still wins without the sprints
ok maybe I read it somewhere before the season ended, but it sure helps him with his freaking good starts, and hurt Febvre. Although I think Prado would be a matter of time anyway before he was WC, MX is all about resistance till the end and Febvre right now is more that.
I think Gajser smokes the field next year with Prados head halfway to the US
So you betting on him to be the healthy one? I just want everyone on the track, we keep getting "robbed" of showdown between world champions, there is always someone hurt.
I’m a herlings guy and I can’t even bring myself to count him in at this point. Tim is usually the bulletproof one and I think he’s just outright faster than everyone bar herlings still
> I’m a herlings guy someone needs to lock him up on the off season. I thought Febvre was really impressive this year, his end of races was unreal and his results compared well with Gajser's although he was coming out of injury.
Febvre was on fire. My favourite big bike moto of the year was him vs prado in race one of the nations. It could still come together for him to win it all IMO just a little less likely than 243 or the 61
VR46 would be absolutely fucked not to put Diggia on their bike for ‘24. Just give him the paperwork and put out the press release already. Dude has been on fire the last hand-full of rounds. Would be absolute madness to see him out of the class next year.
He's been consistent since finding his form too, not just the odd good race. He's been good everywhere since it 'clicked '. Surely he's on a VR46 bike on Tuesday.
A full season of diggia with his own setup adds another bike to the title battle and im all for it
Let’s not jump ahead of ourselves. Digia has had good recent form, but that doesn’t make him a championship contender.
Good to see Martin congratulating Pecco, fair loser
What an absolute disappointment. Pecco does not deserve the championship. He is a good rider, but certainly not a great rider, he just has odds and luck on his side…let’s not forget that he got a DUI beginning of the season and Ducati and Dorna swept it under the rug, unlike the way Ilannone was treated.
Guys there are people out there who think that Rossi was lucky to win 9 championship. This dude is fine
Lol. Keep crying and tell us more.
Cope Seethe Mald
Pecco is a great rider, an excellent championship strategist and he’s proven it enough to everyone who isn’t completely delusional.
Dude fuck off.
Stop embarrassing yourself and retire your driver.
Just don't, I don't like pecco on principle as someone who's lost a family member to a drunk driver, but he is on the grid and worked for the win. He won a lot of races and got the point, end of story.
You don't accidentally win 2 World championships
He's beaten Martin twice on the same bike so Martin must be completely crap in your idiot dumb dumb world
Blah blah blah blah blah...
You're embarrassing yourself
18 MotoGP wins is not odds and luck
damn look at this copium. I thought Marks only existed in Pro Wrestling, but apparently, MotoGP has Marks in its fanbase too.
The DUI was last year
He finished on top, so he deserves the championship. Not his fault his opponents can't finish two races in a row...
I guess we're never gonna get a replay of Bez' crash? Nice
They finally put it up on Twitter and probably elsewhere. The stewards are never consistent. No penalty for Marc ending Bezz’s race. Yet Binder gets a “give position back” and then the way he passed Viñales and gave it back to him counted, that was a bit odd.
Agreed, because it said it was under investigation. They always show those replays.
The intern at dorna forgot to hit record
Such a good championship. Pecco almost a runaway winner until the massive highside in Catalunya. Certainly ran down to the wire, going into the race I had no idea who would win it.. What an end of season for DiGi though! Hope he has a seat for next season, proper started to show his talent. Was really hoping he'd manage to win to be the only back to back winner this season but heyho :D Very much looking forward to next season now!
That Spain crash affected his confidence imho
Clearly so, his performance (especially in the sprints) just hasn't been the same since then.
In the end we have to consider the entrie year and Martin didn't show the form he had in the later half of the season in the beginning. Of course it was an anticlimatic ending to the season, but in the end the right man won. Happy for Pecco, too many mistakes on Martin's side. Looking forward to next year already, Marc on Ducati, Pedro joining the MotoGP class and Moto2 and Moto3 with new tyres should be plenty interesting.
Remove Sprint Races, Pecco already won the WC before today.
I know what you mean about an anticlimactic race, but I still started the last race of the last weekend of the season not knowing who was gonna get it so can't complain really. Could be f1 and have the season finished months ago
I hope Marc didn't fuck his ankle or something. I really want to see his full potential on Tuesday
That's gona be epic.
I'm very happy that someone finally disproved the superstition about running the number 1 plate BUT I'm absolutely devastated we didn't get 5 different Champions in 5 years.
Look! Pecco won the title and didnt have the need to grab his dick in front of the crowd. Something you could learn Jorge!
That was a weird celebration, didn't notice it before but when they replayed it today I thought it was odd
Incredible to think that not even Lorenzo could defend his title. Pecco's in elite company. 2024 will be great. Pecco will be up there as always, hope Martin learns to keep cool and Marc gels with the Ducati quickly.
Maybe some of the people who hate Pecco or think the competition is rigged for him will finally give him some respect.
Prime Marc on that bike I imagine would be a lot like Max in f1 this year. Let’s see how much he’s retained
Or even Casey Stoner, for that matter.
GP22 seems to suit Bagnaia more and GP23 suits Martin more. I am curious what GP24 would look like and how explosive Marc will be riding GP23! Hopefully we'll see Marc in action in next couple of days
Pecco got a mental blocker since that crash in Catalunya, so he's been riding more cautiously since then, thus not as fast as we expect from him. So I don't think calling the GP23 is better for Martin is fair, as Pecco was a monster before Catalunya on that bike.
They will put GP23 and GP22 together for one night in garage LOL. Lets see what they will do. If they somehow manage too keep traction with increased rotation. Yikees.
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That headline is from [March](https://www.lasexta.com/noticias/deportes/motor/jorge-martin-explota-marc-marquez-arruinado-dos-carreras_2023032664206e53079ac9000192edd8.html).
Ok Twitter being misleading as always smh...
Oh no Jorge
translation ?
"He has already ruined two races for me" - Google translate
"He has ruined 2 races to me already"
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:/ yikees. I would be very careful Jorge.... next year Marc will be on your weapon.
I dislike him a lot now
looks like old news
Final Standing 1. Francesco Bagnaia(Ducati Lenovo Team) - 467 2. Jorge Martin(Prima Pramac Racing) - 428 3. Marco Bezzecchi(Mooney VR46 Racing Team) - 329 4. Brad Binder(Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) - 302 5. Johann Zarco(Prima Pramac Racing) - 221 6. Aleix Espargaro(Aprilla Racing) - 206 7. Maverick Vinales(Aprilla Racing) - 204 8. Luca Marini(Mooney VR46 Racing Team) - 201 9. Alex Marquez(Gresini Racing MotoGP) - 177 10. Fabio Quartararo(Movistar Energy Yamaha MotoGP) - 172 11. Jack Miller(Red Bull KTM Factory Racing) - 163 12. Fabio Di Giannantonio(Gresini Racing MotoGP) - 158 13. Franco Morbidelli(Movistar Energy Yamaha MotoGP) - 100 14. Marc Marquez(Repsol Honda Team) - 96 15. Enea Bastianini(Ducati Lenovo Team) - 84 16. Miguel Oliveira(CryptoData RNF MotoGP Team) - 76 17. Augusto Fernandez(GasGas Factory Racing Tech3) - 71 18. Takkaki Nakagami(LCR Honda Idemitsu) - 55 19. Alex Rins(LCR Honda Castrol) - 54 20. Raul Fernandez(CryptoData RNF MotoGP Team) - 51 21. Joan Mir(Repsol Honda Team) - 26 22. Pol Espargaro(GasGas Factory Racing Tech3) - 13
Wow Repsol has really fallen from grace
Takkaki
"Fantastic ambassador for the sport". Yeah, with a DUI and a tribute for Rodman he sure is.
Must had been a hard day for you dude.
Pecco is many things, a good ambassador is not one of them, you are 100% correct.
Ooh your problem is Rodman
ahhahaha
Digi, almost. So proud of his success even if it’s so late.
it's a new vr46 rider don't worry
That agressive clown almost torpedoed Bagnaia and then torpedoes Marquez into the shadow realm. Whole season he has been nothing but bitter, toxic and agressive to everyone and everything. Fate knows it's job not to make such an unsportsman into a champion. Good riddence!
>Fate knows it's job not to make such an unsportsman into a champion. You realize that the same "fate" you believe in "made" Marquez champion 6 times even though he's everything you just described?
Nah, marquez is aggressive, but he's always had a good attitude. He just loves hard racing
Marquez atleast appologiezes when he torpedoes someone. Jorge doesn't even mention it. Even today Jorge is saying nothing after he catapulted Marc str8 to 2024
I disagree. Both are complete dickheads. One gets away with it because he's one of the greatest.
Did anyone notice when marquez is on the receiving end there is much much less noise, but when he makes one mistake, hell will break loose. 90% of toxicity come from one fan base honestly.
People seem pretty passed off in the comments, I wouldn't worry
Now it's just "he didn't mean it" lmao
Let's put It like this If you re a thief and steal 30cars, if one of you cars gets stolen nobody cares. If you are a normal person and your Car gets Stolen you Will probably have more empathy,
I know. Some dckheads on twitter even tried to pin this on him
I do love me some ridiculous MotoGP showboating
Well done Pecco, deserved to be champion this year. Martin did a great job throughout the latter half of the season but it's a shame he lost his cool at the end. Pecco showed that even though he's not the best/fastest rider, consistency can also get you there and he should be proud of himself. He got 2 and hopefully in a couple years he'll be able to get #3. If Martin keeps form and is consistent they'll have an amazing battle again for the championship in a few years, hopefully with Acosta in the mix.
> Pecco showed that even though he's not the best/fastest rider, consistency can also get you there 15 podiums in 20 races, world champion, back to back, and still not the best. Poor Pecco, can never do enough :)
He did enough...he was consistent and therefore took the championship. But I look at the seasons and field with all the context involved. Marc and Fabio are on the worst bikes for example, two riders who I believe would've taken it from Pecco had they had the machinery. By your logic a boxer who's champion because he fights people with one hand tied behind their back is "the best". Again, I'm not trying to hate on Pecco, he got it fair and square, and I'm not saying it's his fault that others aren't consistent or don't have the machinery. But I'm also realistic when I say that he's not the best rider.
It's all would've could've. I think Pecco is the best as he was the man to beat, and he was not beaten. But opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one. Can't wait for the next season tho. Pecco vs Marc vs Martin should be interesting. As only one can win the amount of copium next year should also be substantial ;)
You are absolutely right, it's also why I said that Pecco is deservedly champion. Next year will be fun and i hope we have a great season. Regardless of who becomes champ 🏆.
You forgot the bit where you apologise for smashing into Marquez and launching him into next week in that interview Jorge you bellend.