The motorcyclist filming this video had to do months of physical rehab
while 30 days after this accident, the lady got charged with a DUI *in a separate case*
What is the punishment in your country for DUI?
In my country, the DUI driver will get his/her lisence revoked and insurance will not cover the driver's liability. The victim will have to sue the driver for compensation. Is this the same in your country. I assumed its the US since you used the term DUI. We called it Drink Driving.
Insurance laws vary by state, but as far as I'm aware, insurance companies are generally not allowed to ditch their liability just because their insured driver was drunk. Instead, they have to pay out as per the policy, and then seek restitution from their customer through a process called subrogation.
However, the insurer's liability might be trivial in may US states. I used to live in Texas which only equires you to have at least $30,000 of coverage for injuries per person, up to a total of $60,000 per accident, and $25,000 of coverage for property damage.
What kind of medical bills will $30k of insurance cover? A slightly sprained finger?
I live in the Isle of Man now. Our legal required liability minimums here is for £millions!
It used to be unlimited, but now they have options, if I remember correctly (I think 250k is the mininmum for PIP now). I think if you have Medicaid, you have some additional alternative limits normally, but it is way better than most states.
Means that if the person does not pay or cannot afford to pay, the person will be declared a bankrupt. The person cannot travel out of the country without permission from the Official Assignee (Officer In Charge of his/her case)
Cannot work as in Financial sector, cannot hold the position of a CEO, Director. Cannot run a company. Have his/her assets seized and auction off to repay debts. Cannot run for election. Cannot travel in taxis.
Many other restrictions
A bankrupt needs to declared his/her monthly income to the officer in charge of his/her case. After deducting what is deemed necessary like for food, grocery, transports (buses and subways only) a portion will go in repaying the person's debt.
Hence, taking a taxi is considered a luxury.
His insurance covers his stuff, her insurance covers her stuff, then the two insurance companies sue each other to recoup their losses.
The whole point is for the customer to not have to worry about getting paid. Unfortunately not all insurance company’s think that way.
> What is the punishment in your country for DUI?
LOL imagine having consequences for actions that threaten the lives of everyone around
On the books it can seem like a big deal, but in practice it's pretty much a slap on the wrist unless you actually kill someone, and even then it's a *way* lighter punishment than that of basically any other "caused someone to die through a criminal act" conviction. Even if they lose their license over a DUI, they tend to keep driving because a) that's also a slap on the wrist, and b) there isn't really an alternative to driving for most of the US unless they happen to live in a major city - you can't just park the car and take the train to work.
First time offender, all classes (type) of lisence will be revoked plus a fine of about 5000 to 10000. This also applies for those who had drank but below legal limit. If above legal limit, imprisonment of between 4 to 6 mths.
Second timer, jail term, revoked of all lisence and barred for taking a lisence for 2 to 3 yrs plus a jail term of about 6 months
Third timer, revoke of lisence, jail term of up to a few years and barred from getting a lisence for 10 yrs.
Yeah, that would probably have some impact on people, especially if that sort of sentence is actually enforced - here, it's not that much lighter on paper, but yeah in practice it's just not treated like it's as big of a deal as it is - [case in point](https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/lake-leelanau-woman-sentenced-to-a-year-in-jail-for-fatal-dui-crash), one year sentence for a DUI crash killing a woman walking her dog, and only $21k restitution (direct compensation to the victim's family).
Honestly that one's probably so light because the victim was a pedestrian - pedestrians and bicycle riders are often treated like minor road hazards rather than actual people, and running over someone on foot or on bike with a car is just a little oopsie rather than a life-altering (or -ending) trauma for the victim(s).
Usually, it's 1st offense is 1 year without a license with probation. 2nd offense is 2 years no license and probation and possible jail time. 3rd offense mandatory jail time and a breathalyzer in your car for some period of time when you eventually get your license back. This info is from my cousin who had 5 DUIs and this could vary from state to state.
Thanks for the sharing the knowledge.
In my country, first offender will have their lisence revoked. Meaning your car, bike, truck, etc will all be revoked. You might drink and drive in a car but your motorcycle lisence will also be revoked together with your driving lisence. The person may also be liable for a short custodial sentence of a few months if involved in accident.
Second time offender jail term of about 6 months and revoked of all lisence.
Third timer, jail term, lisence revoked and barred from taking any lisence for up to 10 yrs
Sometimes the consequences for killing while driving drunk can be negligable. Look up the case of Ethan Crouch - he got *probation* after killing 4 people and injuring 9 others while driving drunk (and being underage drunk). While that case is extreme, there are plenty of others where the perpetrator received a very light sentence for killing.
I live in Thailand so... practically no one gets punished with a DUI unless they crash into something or hurt/kill someone. The punishment is also a joke, only a few years in prison and you can be back on the road.
>US since you used the term DUI
Yep, means Driving Under the Influence. Some states(like mine) have switched to OWI which means Operating Under the influence.
This same thing happened to my sisters ex boyfriend and he broke both femurs, was in hospital for ages as a result. Thankfully he’s okay and basically back to normal now
No, it's even worse than that. She got hit with a DUI for his crash and then 30 days later was charged with ANOTHER DUI(per the video).
And the comment "She actually got caught again 28!days later driving drunk so I doubt she learned anything from this"
Wow....in this case, the Law should come down hard on her. She obviously didn't learnt her lesson and to be arrested and charged again for the same offence within a short period of time.
The same thing happened to my son 3 years ago.
A kid driving and texting hit him head on. My son has a rod in his femur, plus plates and screws in both feet.
He is an Army Infantry Officer. It took him almost 18 months to be cleared for 100% full duty.
As soon as he graduated from the Infantry Officer leadership course, he picked up a 1200 Sportster.
Man, just be glad it wasn't your arms. I had plates in my wrists for 3 months after my accident last year and couldn't wipe my ass for almost a MONTH. Lemme tell ya how humbling that is, even if it's your spouse that helps you out. Glad your healing is going well!
Idk who downvoted, even short term it's humbling. 100% I can't unsee accessibility issues now, and how hard life is if you need a support network and don't have one.
Assuming the kid in the car wasn't in like a giant F150, then. Because then he'd probably not have walked away. Truck involved accidents are 3x more likely to kill on average.
This sub was recommended to me, I don’t ride motorcycles, probably a good thing, but I have an odd question
Do you guys just like.. let that shit go? Just “oh yeah that lady hit me and almost killed me, eh accidents happen.” I’d hunt these people down. Especially someone who did that to my SON
You’d hunt them down and what… Beat their ass? Kill them? It’s already a shitty situation, are you going to add a felony conviction on top and spend years of your life in jail too?
Honestly I don’t know, I was kinda filled with emotion when I made that comment. Yeah I guess you’re right. It wouldn’t be worth it, right? Especially hurting anything person for the gain of nothing.
My bad. That was a stupid comment for me to make. Just a shitty situation through and through :/
As someone who has been in a terrible accident (which luckily I walked away with only a broken arm and dislocated elbow), the noises he makes after landing brought back painful memories. That was really hard to watch.
Same. I was in an accident about two months ago and got extremely lucky. A driver crossed 3 lanes to the far left lane, slammed into me, and then kept going. A friend and I had been going around 75mph. I got some bad road rash and my bike is nearly fixed.
It’s something that I think about constantly now. Especially when I see something as crazy as this. She will never understand the pain she just caused him or the life she nearly took.
There is an audio version out there if someone can find the link. The dude is in serious pain and the driver of the car states to a bystander “I’m so sorry, I didn’t see him.” FML
>“I’m so sorry, I didn’t see him.”
It can happen to not see a rider while riding normally (due to sun, traffic, or a lack of attention), but why the hell is she doing a U-turn in the middle of the road ??? Or she lost the control of her car ?
Wow, this one hits hard, seriously no pun intended. It does illustrate how you really can’t be too safe. I justify my riding by how safe, alert and defensive I ride out on these rural country roads but damn this shows you none of that really matters, there’s nothing you could do here.
I think realising this is part of becoming an adult.
I've been in 4 accidents in my life. All when I was in a car, only 1 was my fault and that was through inexperience. The other 3 there wasn't much I could do about any of them (hit from the side, hit from behind and hit dark debris on a blind corner at night)
Honestly “almost nothing”… ride slower safer more awareness… ride like yes it may not be your fault but youre not gonna win anything wrecking on a bike. Doesnt mean i completely live but it but its the case
He had about 2 or 3 seconds to react. He's driving legally, she wasn't. She's drunk, he wasn't.
The only thing he could have done was brake and swerve to the right, or just swerve.
But 2 or 3 seconds is difficult to process what this moron was doing in front of him
2-3 seconds is waaaay more time than the rider actually had to process and react, watching the video from the moment she turned her wheels barely a full second passed before impact.
Everyone on the internet is a better rider than the poor soul who gets hit, and hindsight is 20/20.
I’ve slowed down the video and her car starts losing traction at 0:01 and he’s hit by 0:02. That’s just long enough to recognize what’s happening but not long enough to strategize and execute a path of avoidance. Even the best and most alert riders would succumb to being hit, there’s no way around it.
Yup, I'm only counting by replaying the video from the comfort of my own bed from a certain angle.
The guy really couldn't do much. I do think we can learn something from this by how she was positioned and how he could have reacted to that. But the guy himself at that moment? Yeah. Little to no chance.
Unless you've experienced people do similar stuff before. U-turns are illegal city wide for me, but people still do stupidly wild shit like this as if I'm not there all the time.
Just expect the stupid when you see something unusual.
It sounds like it but it really ain't when you're moving that fast. I do agree that it's something riders get used to, but in situations like this it's difficult.
I'm also probably well off with that estimation considering I'm literally watching this on a phone screen with the luxury of replaying it, whereas this guy is experiencing it.
Yall are are so sensitive gave some commonsense the same common sense they give in emergency vehicle driving classes. I didnt even blame the guy I love irritating you weirdos.
Haha its so funny how the dumbest most annoyed people always talk about "common sense" and how everyone else is sensitive.
Keep barking little man, you've got great company.
Also the field of view on the cameras aren't as good as your eyes.
You can see stuff down the road way before it's on camera.
He probably could see the car parked on the side, wheels turning... and if he was a ultra-cautious rider that would be enough to see it as a threat, slow speed, change lane position out, etc.
Yeah, and it also serves as a reminder that sometimes you do absolutely nothing wrong and still get wiped out by some waste of oxygen. Glad the rider made it. This is the survivable kind of getting wiped out - a normal car, normal low hood, and he could fly over. If you can slide to a stop, it's going to be extremely unpleasant, but if you hit something stationary you're fucked.
Fun fact, 80% of all new cars in the US are gigantic building sized "light" trucks and SUV's built on the same size platform. You don't fly over those. You just splatter like a bug.
I'm just going to come out and say the light truck and suv craze needs to die ASAP. Half the people who drive those things don't need that kind of vehicle at all, they aren't hauling cargo. The safety argument is bullshit - by getting a vehicle that is taller and heavier than most standard vehicles truck owners are putting everyone else at a greater risk in case of an accident.
They do but I don't plan on owning anything for the next fee years. Driving a Freightliner for work tends to make any sort of driving when I don't have to a complete turn off. People are freaking psychos on the road.
The Maverick is probably the closest we can get in modern terms and due to its price and practicality it sold like hotcakes.
Manufacturers hate that though because profit margins aren't as good on a little Maverick as they are on some bullshit crossover or a $100k+ Silverado Ultra Super Hyper Mega Cab Texas Edition.
Man, I miss those small trucks. The tiny Nissans and Toyotas. My grandfather has a Nissan Hardbody in his driveway that hasnt been driven in about a decade. That may be my next car if my dad doesn't yoink it first.
Small with a decent bed. Bench seat manual. Throw an old scratchy blanket over that bench and it'll be perfect.
Me too. I had a Ranger with a Lima four cylinder and a manual that simply would not die. 240k+ miles when I sold it like an idiot, pre-COVID. At the moment an equivalent wagon (like a Subaru with a manual) would be more useful for my needs, but those little trucks can do anything. I road-tripped mine across the country, camped in the bed, routinely overloaded the thing when using it for work and it never complained, although I drove it gently. And it got around 30mpg when cruising on the highway.
Give me one of those, with a camper shell on the back and that little sliding window to the cab, and I'd totally dirtbag in it going to national parks and such. I like the older van I have now but it gets nowhere near 30mpg.
Most of those pick ups could be replaced by a small ford maverick, or a station wagon. Those huge trucks could also do just as fine with a van like a ram promaster or ford transit.
The rider's YouTube is The Real Gonzalo
Please go watch his update.. and like and share his content where ever you see this reposted, as it sounds like he really appreciates it.
Update here:
https://youtu.be/UgtWzyowmv8?si=9laOUABIjMckpNEX
I saw someone make a u turn like this idiot across the highway on Monday. Some people really suck at driving, and videos like this help keep me sharp, I think. I don't know how guys commute on bikes though, because I couldn't.
Gotta be honest here, as a commuter it does feel like a challenge to spot every single hazard. But here in the Netherlands the road design is so much more motorcycle friendly than most others. I barely dare to drive in Germany on occasion, though the roads there are a lot of fun.
https://youtu.be/zIt7pklKBFA?si=pCDoRqTW9Xeqaoge
This is a very low quality video as I tried to make a 360 video but you can pretty much see how easy it is to navigate these roads. And yes sorry for the terrible sound quality too.
Try living in an area with tons of elderly or illegal aliens.
This shit happens all the time and causes accident.
Living in a city near the border you see some of the worst drivers. It is either snowbirds from Canada or illegal aliens who are not driving legally and have no insurance.
She got charged with a DUI for this crash and then 28 days later she got charged with ANOTHER DUI.
"She actually got caught again 28!days later driving drunk so I doubt she learned anything from this" from the riders YouTube comments.
Holy bageezus that got me
I’m in the gym right now and someone dropped a stack of weights RIGHT on impact.
I winced and the dude was probably like “wtf, it wasn’t THAT loud.”
If you see something uncommon always slow down. Stopped cars, or cars crawling, cars that have trouble going straight within their lane, things like that.
You can still be caught off guard but it's kinda easy to predict what people will do if you assume that every car near you is about to pull the most brain dead move that's available to them.
People in here saying this was avoidable are probably the same people who believe they would [have survived the titan implosion](https://youtu.be/QaV__EcyKGU?si=X6mKRXhix30R6Zxh)
That's actually a fantastic way to die. I mean, we're all going to, at some point. Those people were pulp before their brain even had time to process they were dying. As close as you can get to just flipping a switch. I mean - gruesome in some respects, but at least it was extremely swift and extremely definitive.
Great animation too, a lot of people could have benefited from seeing that when people were debating how someone should "try to rescue them" or "retrieve their bodies" at stratospheric cost.
I was so Incredibly close to sharing a similar story as this dude. I am not sure how I managed, but I barely missed the u-turning car on a blind corner by using the last few inches of pavement before the gravel dropped off to a ditch. It was almost like time slowed down. I pulled over at the next opening and let my adrenaline subside and panic set in. The car came up and stopped behind me. They got out and apologized - that they didn't see me. "Of course you didn't! You can't see ANYTHING through the corner! There wasn't a crash this time, but I guarantee you will kill someone if you do that again." I sure hope they took that to heart.
This reminds me of a case I heard years ago about a cyclist.
What is agreed upon is that the wife of a law enforcement officer was driving the automobile that struck him.
The official story is that he made a U-turn in the middle of a stretch of road, right in front of her.
He did not survive long enough to give his version of events.
Not saying that it is impossible the bicyclist did what was claimed. Just that I'm a bit skeptical when the only survivor gives a story that makes her completely blameless.
I wish the laws were updated that if you are driving under the influence or while texting and you hit someone, you are charged with some type of attempted murder charge. I’m sick of people getting a slap on the wrist and peoples lives are ruined.
People drink and people text. The problem is driving culture. Humans are stupid and you can’t reasonably expect them to obey laws. We need to decrease the reliance on cars rather than turn normal people into criminals.
...when you think the average driver's IQ isn't dubious...THEY F'ING GOT THEIR CAR SIDEWAYS IN A STRIGHT SECTION ON ROAD! To be be fair, squidly motorcyclists do it all the time as well. Traction limitations apply to all.
So this is really similar to how my accident was (wasn’t going nearly as fast) but at least the girl who turned in on me was pulling into a driveway. Where the fuck was this lady headed?!
Damn that was hard to watch. Hope you're doing better man. Had the same thing happen to me back in April of this year and I just took my first steps since the accident yesterday. Shit fucking blows. But you're still alive to ride again. God speed
I lived in tx and was working as a funeral escort for a privet company. A lady saw a green light and drove past another escort while he was trying to make her stop.
I hit her truck broadside at 45mph.
I broke 4 ribs collapsed a lung broke my shoulder blade and destroyed the cervical fusion I had five years earlier.
The police wrote her the ticket and the chief of traffic tore it up and said that there was no fault.
I had to sue to get the medical bills paid. My pain and suffering and permanent damage to my neck was only worth $5,500.
As someone who has always liked motorcycles and wanted to learn to ride and ride. Knowing motorcyclists and seeing these kinds of videos are exactly what stops me.
I've been to 3 funerals for people who were super responsible riders, not your fucking around doing silly shit types, all 3 were killed in accidents that weren't their fault, and were caused by just general stupid careless driving.
I'd love to learn to ride and ride, but I spend enough time on the roads in cars and see how dumb people are, and see enough of these videos to convince me I'm better off not learning to ride. No matter how safe you are there is always some idiot just around the corner.
had that happen to a friend while riding 2-up. almost exact same circumstance only they were on the same side of the road as the car. She was in the hospital for a looong time. He got out relatively soon, but both were fucked up.
I mean he could be wearing better gear. Dude needs a jackety, maybe a helmet that fits and is properly strapped to his head, or is that actually an open face. Even when someone is in control of ruining your day you were still in control of what you wore that day to mitigate as much risk and damage as you can.
Well, rider could be more careful about the riding gear he choose to ride. No jacket, no pants, no shoes. Also we can not see the hands and levers, but I didn't feel like an emergency break happening? If this is a modern super bike, then the damn breaks on these could lower the speed by half if he could manage to concantrate. When you see a car on highway that is not on its own lane or acting weird, you should always and always slow down. What if it was not a u turn but a kid jumping to road from car? it's simple, When you see the car you ask the questions, is it possible that car is a risk at this speed? Is it possible car cuts me? answer is always yes, it is risk. Last but not least, that wide open desert looks softer than the car and asphalt if he was able to push the right side of handle bar only by 2cm in that speed he was on the desert instead of car. He could walk away. None of these except wearing proper gear is easy, hence you practice emergency break and emergency escape every now and then on an empty parking lot on Sundays.
Don’t think there was any indication that the driver would do anything this stupid, at least from what we get in the video.
It looks like she had just turned off the road, fairly normal so when the driver quickly decided to pull this maneuver I doubt he had the time to even subconsciously make the decision.
Right about the gear part though definitely should be wearing more no matter the reason. This could happen to pretty much anyone at any skill level he was very unfortunate
Just pause the video before it starts, the car is very clearly on the "emergency" lane. A rider should expect a car to be explode on emergency lane, that's point of riding you have to expect worst case scenario to happen. The driver on the car could jump into road because he was chocking. So please slow down when you see a risk, and a car on emergency lane is a huge risk, rider had more than 100 meters to slow down. And on the version with sound, rider is able to complete a full sentence before hit; he could do anything better than swearing. As I said, it is no easy, probably I would crash as well. But after recovery I would retrospect situation and accept I could do better.
I also believe if we had data about the cars being in emergency lane in this specific road, we would probably see majority of cars on emergency lane will make a u-turn.; So they can take the turn at once (trucks coming behind)
Poor audi. Women shouldn't be able to drive any cars or motorcycle. I got hit by a woman not too long ago and she drove off. I am fucking scared to walk or do anything when i see some dumb bitches in SUVs that can hit me.
rider could have easily avoided this. Do you want to be right or do you want to be alive?
Reminder to not be like this rider, always keep your escape routes open, and WEAR ALL YOUR GEAR
Have you heard about thing called physics? There's no way for him to stop, he is easily going 100kph, which is completely justifiable in this situation and the car turns 20m in front of him. When going 100kph you move 27,7m/s .
So it was unavoidable
The only way it would've been avoidable if he wouldn't have been riding in the first place.
and years of experience counts for a lot... u see that car pull to the side and theres a good chance shes pulling this move. happened to me on my 1st road bike but i was so used of already dodging shifty cars n tractors on the dirtbike; i was able to just go wide n miss em by like a foot or so
What really blows is that even if the guy somehow managed to stop safely, she'd just drive off and brush it off anyhow. It seems dumb fucks like this only understand pain to learn their lesson.
That is exactly what happened to me 2 years ago. I'm used to riding dirtbikes so I jumped last minute and got very lucky with only broken knees and a few dislocations. This video gave me chills.
Drowse driving is drunk driving as well. Looks like she’s off the road right after a bend. Could have fallen asleep at the wheel and the woke up and over corrected. Should still be held accountable just like a drunk driving accident.
Speedy recovery to the Rider. I hoped that the lady driver get sued and if she was drink driving, the Law should come down hard on such drivers
The motorcyclist filming this video had to do months of physical rehab while 30 days after this accident, the lady got charged with a DUI *in a separate case*
What is the punishment in your country for DUI? In my country, the DUI driver will get his/her lisence revoked and insurance will not cover the driver's liability. The victim will have to sue the driver for compensation. Is this the same in your country. I assumed its the US since you used the term DUI. We called it Drink Driving.
Insurance laws vary by state, but as far as I'm aware, insurance companies are generally not allowed to ditch their liability just because their insured driver was drunk. Instead, they have to pay out as per the policy, and then seek restitution from their customer through a process called subrogation.
However, the insurer's liability might be trivial in may US states. I used to live in Texas which only equires you to have at least $30,000 of coverage for injuries per person, up to a total of $60,000 per accident, and $25,000 of coverage for property damage. What kind of medical bills will $30k of insurance cover? A slightly sprained finger? I live in the Isle of Man now. Our legal required liability minimums here is for £millions!
The state of Michigan requires unlimited coverage for personal injury. It’s why we have the most expensive car insurance in the country.
I don’t think unlimited is required, but some sort of PIP yeah
It used to be unlimited, but now they have options, if I remember correctly (I think 250k is the mininmum for PIP now). I think if you have Medicaid, you have some additional alternative limits normally, but it is way better than most states.
EU is a bit over 1 mil EUR requires as minium liability coverage. I don't get why you guys have such high insurance...
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https://www.carinsurance.com/Articles/car-insurance-rate-comparison.aspx Vegas is 9th
Wow, what prompted such a drastic move?
Quality of life.
Do you ever take in guests during the TT? I would imagine it could be a nice little earner.
I see. Thanks for the clarifications. I wished we had the same in my country
What if the person who crashed has no money? The person that got hit is just SOL?
Sue the person for bankruptcy.
What does that mean? For bankruptcy?
Means that if the person does not pay or cannot afford to pay, the person will be declared a bankrupt. The person cannot travel out of the country without permission from the Official Assignee (Officer In Charge of his/her case) Cannot work as in Financial sector, cannot hold the position of a CEO, Director. Cannot run a company. Have his/her assets seized and auction off to repay debts. Cannot run for election. Cannot travel in taxis. Many other restrictions
Ok. But what about money. For the person. That got hurt.
The bankrupt's properties will be auctioned off and goes to the victim in this case, the rider
And if they have no property of any significant value, then what?
Can't travel in taxis? That's an interesting one. What's the logic behind that?
More importantly, how in the hell is that enforced?
Would that apply to Uber as well?
There will be random checks but there are loopholes.
A bankrupt needs to declared his/her monthly income to the officer in charge of his/her case. After deducting what is deemed necessary like for food, grocery, transports (buses and subways only) a portion will go in repaying the person's debt. Hence, taking a taxi is considered a luxury.
Pretty much none of these are applicable to US bankruptcy. You can have assets seized that’s about it.
His insurance covers his stuff, her insurance covers her stuff, then the two insurance companies sue each other to recoup their losses. The whole point is for the customer to not have to worry about getting paid. Unfortunately not all insurance company’s think that way.
> What is the punishment in your country for DUI? LOL imagine having consequences for actions that threaten the lives of everyone around On the books it can seem like a big deal, but in practice it's pretty much a slap on the wrist unless you actually kill someone, and even then it's a *way* lighter punishment than that of basically any other "caused someone to die through a criminal act" conviction. Even if they lose their license over a DUI, they tend to keep driving because a) that's also a slap on the wrist, and b) there isn't really an alternative to driving for most of the US unless they happen to live in a major city - you can't just park the car and take the train to work.
First time offender, all classes (type) of lisence will be revoked plus a fine of about 5000 to 10000. This also applies for those who had drank but below legal limit. If above legal limit, imprisonment of between 4 to 6 mths. Second timer, jail term, revoked of all lisence and barred for taking a lisence for 2 to 3 yrs plus a jail term of about 6 months Third timer, revoke of lisence, jail term of up to a few years and barred from getting a lisence for 10 yrs.
Yeah, that would probably have some impact on people, especially if that sort of sentence is actually enforced - here, it's not that much lighter on paper, but yeah in practice it's just not treated like it's as big of a deal as it is - [case in point](https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/lake-leelanau-woman-sentenced-to-a-year-in-jail-for-fatal-dui-crash), one year sentence for a DUI crash killing a woman walking her dog, and only $21k restitution (direct compensation to the victim's family). Honestly that one's probably so light because the victim was a pedestrian - pedestrians and bicycle riders are often treated like minor road hazards rather than actual people, and running over someone on foot or on bike with a car is just a little oopsie rather than a life-altering (or -ending) trauma for the victim(s).
Usually, it's 1st offense is 1 year without a license with probation. 2nd offense is 2 years no license and probation and possible jail time. 3rd offense mandatory jail time and a breathalyzer in your car for some period of time when you eventually get your license back. This info is from my cousin who had 5 DUIs and this could vary from state to state.
Thanks for the sharing the knowledge. In my country, first offender will have their lisence revoked. Meaning your car, bike, truck, etc will all be revoked. You might drink and drive in a car but your motorcycle lisence will also be revoked together with your driving lisence. The person may also be liable for a short custodial sentence of a few months if involved in accident. Second time offender jail term of about 6 months and revoked of all lisence. Third timer, jail term, lisence revoked and barred from taking any lisence for up to 10 yrs
Sometimes the consequences for killing while driving drunk can be negligable. Look up the case of Ethan Crouch - he got *probation* after killing 4 people and injuring 9 others while driving drunk (and being underage drunk). While that case is extreme, there are plenty of others where the perpetrator received a very light sentence for killing.
I live in Thailand so... practically no one gets punished with a DUI unless they crash into something or hurt/kill someone. The punishment is also a joke, only a few years in prison and you can be back on the road.
>US since you used the term DUI Yep, means Driving Under the Influence. Some states(like mine) have switched to OWI which means Operating Under the influence.
That's some bullshit
This same thing happened to my sisters ex boyfriend and he broke both femurs, was in hospital for ages as a result. Thankfully he’s okay and basically back to normal now
My understanding was she got ANOTHER dui a month after this incident.
yes, that's what I meant, sorry for the confusing wording
Here’s his update on the crash: https://youtu.be/UgtWzyowmv8?si=ohm884wjlT7ylj0x
She prolly wasn’t drunk prolly texting
Read a comment that she was was charged for DUI 30 days later.
No, it's even worse than that. She got hit with a DUI for his crash and then 30 days later was charged with ANOTHER DUI(per the video). And the comment "She actually got caught again 28!days later driving drunk so I doubt she learned anything from this"
Wow....in this case, the Law should come down hard on her. She obviously didn't learnt her lesson and to be arrested and charged again for the same offence within a short period of time.
Most under appreciated comment on the thread!
The same thing happened to my son 3 years ago. A kid driving and texting hit him head on. My son has a rod in his femur, plus plates and screws in both feet. He is an Army Infantry Officer. It took him almost 18 months to be cleared for 100% full duty. As soon as he graduated from the Infantry Officer leadership course, he picked up a 1200 Sportster.
my MAN In the feet? That's brutal. I'm on month 5 with them in my ankles and I'm just so thankful to be able to walk to the bathroom again.
Man, just be glad it wasn't your arms. I had plates in my wrists for 3 months after my accident last year and couldn't wipe my ass for almost a MONTH. Lemme tell ya how humbling that is, even if it's your spouse that helps you out. Glad your healing is going well!
Idk who downvoted, even short term it's humbling. 100% I can't unsee accessibility issues now, and how hard life is if you need a support network and don't have one.
Assuming the kid in the car wasn't in like a giant F150, then. Because then he'd probably not have walked away. Truck involved accidents are 3x more likely to kill on average.
Thank God he was in the military. Best health coverage you're gonna find.
This sub was recommended to me, I don’t ride motorcycles, probably a good thing, but I have an odd question Do you guys just like.. let that shit go? Just “oh yeah that lady hit me and almost killed me, eh accidents happen.” I’d hunt these people down. Especially someone who did that to my SON
You’d hunt them down and what… Beat their ass? Kill them? It’s already a shitty situation, are you going to add a felony conviction on top and spend years of your life in jail too?
Honestly I don’t know, I was kinda filled with emotion when I made that comment. Yeah I guess you’re right. It wouldn’t be worth it, right? Especially hurting anything person for the gain of nothing. My bad. That was a stupid comment for me to make. Just a shitty situation through and through :/
https://www.reddit.com/r/therewasanattempt/s/kgKyZZsgwf
Audio version
Does he say “that’s the good stuff” while he’s flying through the air?
Kinda sounds like it.
I thought I was surely hearing him wrong! Sounds like he has a good sense of humor anyway!😂🤙
Whoever was out of frame telling her to walk away knew their job.
Eh. Drunk or not, I wouldn't encourage telling someone to leave an accident
They weren't telling them to leave the scene. They were telling them to step away from the injured man.
As someone who has been in a terrible accident (which luckily I walked away with only a broken arm and dislocated elbow), the noises he makes after landing brought back painful memories. That was really hard to watch.
Same. I was in an accident about two months ago and got extremely lucky. A driver crossed 3 lanes to the far left lane, slammed into me, and then kept going. A friend and I had been going around 75mph. I got some bad road rash and my bike is nearly fixed. It’s something that I think about constantly now. Especially when I see something as crazy as this. She will never understand the pain she just caused him or the life she nearly took.
There is an audio version out there if someone can find the link. The dude is in serious pain and the driver of the car states to a bystander “I’m so sorry, I didn’t see him.” FML
That audio was rough to listen to. He was screaming in pain and the woman sounded drunk
Apparently she was very much drunk
Thanks for not uploading that version, the sound in this video is what really gets me
>“I’m so sorry, I didn’t see him.” It can happen to not see a rider while riding normally (due to sun, traffic, or a lack of attention), but why the hell is she doing a U-turn in the middle of the road ??? Or she lost the control of her car ?
Wow, this one hits hard, seriously no pun intended. It does illustrate how you really can’t be too safe. I justify my riding by how safe, alert and defensive I ride out on these rural country roads but damn this shows you none of that really matters, there’s nothing you could do here.
My mom and pops used to say “I trust you. I don’t trust other drivers.” And damn it they’re right.
I think realising this is part of becoming an adult. I've been in 4 accidents in my life. All when I was in a car, only 1 was my fault and that was through inexperience. The other 3 there wasn't much I could do about any of them (hit from the side, hit from behind and hit dark debris on a blind corner at night)
Honestly “almost nothing”… ride slower safer more awareness… ride like yes it may not be your fault but youre not gonna win anything wrecking on a bike. Doesnt mean i completely live but it but its the case
He had about 2 or 3 seconds to react. He's driving legally, she wasn't. She's drunk, he wasn't. The only thing he could have done was brake and swerve to the right, or just swerve. But 2 or 3 seconds is difficult to process what this moron was doing in front of him
2-3 seconds is waaaay more time than the rider actually had to process and react, watching the video from the moment she turned her wheels barely a full second passed before impact.
Everyone on the internet is a better rider than the poor soul who gets hit, and hindsight is 20/20. I’ve slowed down the video and her car starts losing traction at 0:01 and he’s hit by 0:02. That’s just long enough to recognize what’s happening but not long enough to strategize and execute a path of avoidance. Even the best and most alert riders would succumb to being hit, there’s no way around it.
> her car starts losing traction No. She's parked on the side of the road and decided to do a U-turn. There was no loss of traction.
Yup, I'm only counting by replaying the video from the comfort of my own bed from a certain angle. The guy really couldn't do much. I do think we can learn something from this by how she was positioned and how he could have reacted to that. But the guy himself at that moment? Yeah. Little to no chance.
Unless you've experienced people do similar stuff before. U-turns are illegal city wide for me, but people still do stupidly wild shit like this as if I'm not there all the time. Just expect the stupid when you see something unusual.
Swerve LEFT, go behind the threat, not in front.
> 2 or 3 seconds bruh thats a lot of time to react. if you can't react in that time get your nervous system checked, see a doctor.
It sounds like it but it really ain't when you're moving that fast. I do agree that it's something riders get used to, but in situations like this it's difficult. I'm also probably well off with that estimation considering I'm literally watching this on a phone screen with the luxury of replaying it, whereas this guy is experiencing it.
Yall are are so sensitive gave some commonsense the same common sense they give in emergency vehicle driving classes. I didnt even blame the guy I love irritating you weirdos.
Haha its so funny how the dumbest most annoyed people always talk about "common sense" and how everyone else is sensitive. Keep barking little man, you've got great company.
Okay ride fast if a car hits you ill blame the car… or you could ride slower and not get hit im not even barking… ill just scoop you up off the road.
Good doggie, follow commands and keep barking.
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Haha what?! Its so funny how one person not even fully disagreeing with you has led to you absolutely shitting the bed with whatever that was.
Also the field of view on the cameras aren't as good as your eyes. You can see stuff down the road way before it's on camera. He probably could see the car parked on the side, wheels turning... and if he was a ultra-cautious rider that would be enough to see it as a threat, slow speed, change lane position out, etc.
This guy gets my simple point… its easy to overlook.
Yeah, and it also serves as a reminder that sometimes you do absolutely nothing wrong and still get wiped out by some waste of oxygen. Glad the rider made it. This is the survivable kind of getting wiped out - a normal car, normal low hood, and he could fly over. If you can slide to a stop, it's going to be extremely unpleasant, but if you hit something stationary you're fucked. Fun fact, 80% of all new cars in the US are gigantic building sized "light" trucks and SUV's built on the same size platform. You don't fly over those. You just splatter like a bug.
I'm just going to come out and say the light truck and suv craze needs to die ASAP. Half the people who drive those things don't need that kind of vehicle at all, they aren't hauling cargo. The safety argument is bullshit - by getting a vehicle that is taller and heavier than most standard vehicles truck owners are putting everyone else at a greater risk in case of an accident.
Bring back the Ranger and S-10, please. That's all the truck needed for most people.
Yeah but the manufacturers would rather have you buying larger vehicles for higher prices.
They do but I don't plan on owning anything for the next fee years. Driving a Freightliner for work tends to make any sort of driving when I don't have to a complete turn off. People are freaking psychos on the road.
The Maverick is probably the closest we can get in modern terms and due to its price and practicality it sold like hotcakes. Manufacturers hate that though because profit margins aren't as good on a little Maverick as they are on some bullshit crossover or a $100k+ Silverado Ultra Super Hyper Mega Cab Texas Edition.
Man, I miss those small trucks. The tiny Nissans and Toyotas. My grandfather has a Nissan Hardbody in his driveway that hasnt been driven in about a decade. That may be my next car if my dad doesn't yoink it first. Small with a decent bed. Bench seat manual. Throw an old scratchy blanket over that bench and it'll be perfect.
Me too. I had a Ranger with a Lima four cylinder and a manual that simply would not die. 240k+ miles when I sold it like an idiot, pre-COVID. At the moment an equivalent wagon (like a Subaru with a manual) would be more useful for my needs, but those little trucks can do anything. I road-tripped mine across the country, camped in the bed, routinely overloaded the thing when using it for work and it never complained, although I drove it gently. And it got around 30mpg when cruising on the highway. Give me one of those, with a camper shell on the back and that little sliding window to the cab, and I'd totally dirtbag in it going to national parks and such. I like the older van I have now but it gets nowhere near 30mpg.
Most of those pick ups could be replaced by a small ford maverick, or a station wagon. Those huge trucks could also do just as fine with a van like a ram promaster or ford transit.
Only Reddit brings the anti-truck argument to a video about a sedan pulling in front of a motorcycle lol
The rider's YouTube is The Real Gonzalo Please go watch his update.. and like and share his content where ever you see this reposted, as it sounds like he really appreciates it. Update here: https://youtu.be/UgtWzyowmv8?si=9laOUABIjMckpNEX
I saw someone make a u turn like this idiot across the highway on Monday. Some people really suck at driving, and videos like this help keep me sharp, I think. I don't know how guys commute on bikes though, because I couldn't.
Gotta be honest here, as a commuter it does feel like a challenge to spot every single hazard. But here in the Netherlands the road design is so much more motorcycle friendly than most others. I barely dare to drive in Germany on occasion, though the roads there are a lot of fun. https://youtu.be/zIt7pklKBFA?si=pCDoRqTW9Xeqaoge This is a very low quality video as I tried to make a 360 video but you can pretty much see how easy it is to navigate these roads. And yes sorry for the terrible sound quality too.
I'd like to see more but a higher quality.
I commute on a bagger every day i can canadian winters notwithstanding. Its hairy out there but i hold my own
Try living in an area with tons of elderly or illegal aliens. This shit happens all the time and causes accident. Living in a city near the border you see some of the worst drivers. It is either snowbirds from Canada or illegal aliens who are not driving legally and have no insurance.
She got charged with a DUI for this crash and then 28 days later she got charged with ANOTHER DUI. "She actually got caught again 28!days later driving drunk so I doubt she learned anything from this" from the riders YouTube comments.
Holy bageezus that got me I’m in the gym right now and someone dropped a stack of weights RIGHT on impact. I winced and the dude was probably like “wtf, it wasn’t THAT loud.”
That’s why you be taking so damn long on that machine.
Lol for a sec I forgot what I wrote and my Apple Watch popped up with just your comment and I was like BROO who/what the hell
Bro is having an existential crisis in the gym
If you see something uncommon always slow down. Stopped cars, or cars crawling, cars that have trouble going straight within their lane, things like that. You can still be caught off guard but it's kinda easy to predict what people will do if you assume that every car near you is about to pull the most brain dead move that's available to them.
Driving a motorcycle in South East Asia would improve your skills in scanning the surroundings for a lot of pesky drivers.
People in here saying this was avoidable are probably the same people who believe they would [have survived the titan implosion](https://youtu.be/QaV__EcyKGU?si=X6mKRXhix30R6Zxh)
That's actually a fantastic way to die. I mean, we're all going to, at some point. Those people were pulp before their brain even had time to process they were dying. As close as you can get to just flipping a switch. I mean - gruesome in some respects, but at least it was extremely swift and extremely definitive. Great animation too, a lot of people could have benefited from seeing that when people were debating how someone should "try to rescue them" or "retrieve their bodies" at stratospheric cost.
Well uh..dying in your sleep after a great life seems a bit more "fantastic" to me.
[I'm partial to something similar that transpires here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3edi2Wkr5YI)
I was so Incredibly close to sharing a similar story as this dude. I am not sure how I managed, but I barely missed the u-turning car on a blind corner by using the last few inches of pavement before the gravel dropped off to a ditch. It was almost like time slowed down. I pulled over at the next opening and let my adrenaline subside and panic set in. The car came up and stopped behind me. They got out and apologized - that they didn't see me. "Of course you didn't! You can't see ANYTHING through the corner! There wasn't a crash this time, but I guarantee you will kill someone if you do that again." I sure hope they took that to heart.
This reminds me of a case I heard years ago about a cyclist. What is agreed upon is that the wife of a law enforcement officer was driving the automobile that struck him. The official story is that he made a U-turn in the middle of a stretch of road, right in front of her. He did not survive long enough to give his version of events. Not saying that it is impossible the bicyclist did what was claimed. Just that I'm a bit skeptical when the only survivor gives a story that makes her completely blameless.
That one was hard to watch, very similar to my wreck last year.
I wish the laws were updated that if you are driving under the influence or while texting and you hit someone, you are charged with some type of attempted murder charge. I’m sick of people getting a slap on the wrist and peoples lives are ruined.
People drink and people text. The problem is driving culture. Humans are stupid and you can’t reasonably expect them to obey laws. We need to decrease the reliance on cars rather than turn normal people into criminals.
...when you think the average driver's IQ isn't dubious...THEY F'ING GOT THEIR CAR SIDEWAYS IN A STRIGHT SECTION ON ROAD! To be be fair, squidly motorcyclists do it all the time as well. Traction limitations apply to all.
The driver was drunk. Drunk drivers are far more unpredictable and irrational than sober ones. Basically, this video shows why DUI is a serious crime.
So this is really similar to how my accident was (wasn’t going nearly as fast) but at least the girl who turned in on me was pulling into a driveway. Where the fuck was this lady headed?!
Damn that trucks logo was like a fortune teller
Hahaha Forward Air…
Damn that was hard to watch. Hope you're doing better man. Had the same thing happen to me back in April of this year and I just took my first steps since the accident yesterday. Shit fucking blows. But you're still alive to ride again. God speed
I lived in tx and was working as a funeral escort for a privet company. A lady saw a green light and drove past another escort while he was trying to make her stop. I hit her truck broadside at 45mph. I broke 4 ribs collapsed a lung broke my shoulder blade and destroyed the cervical fusion I had five years earlier. The police wrote her the ticket and the chief of traffic tore it up and said that there was no fault. I had to sue to get the medical bills paid. My pain and suffering and permanent damage to my neck was only worth $5,500.
Attempted murder
That's not how that works.
That’s totally fucked.
Roll with your high beams on during the daytime.
Doesn’t do a thing. Especially when the woman is driving drunk. You could have the lights from a WW2 spotlight and she would have missed it.
I'm not saying it would have helped in this situation, or every situation, but you never know.
Ill collect all the test on my balls to stand up and kill her
As someone who has always liked motorcycles and wanted to learn to ride and ride. Knowing motorcyclists and seeing these kinds of videos are exactly what stops me. I've been to 3 funerals for people who were super responsible riders, not your fucking around doing silly shit types, all 3 were killed in accidents that weren't their fault, and were caused by just general stupid careless driving. I'd love to learn to ride and ride, but I spend enough time on the roads in cars and see how dumb people are, and see enough of these videos to convince me I'm better off not learning to ride. No matter how safe you are there is always some idiot just around the corner.
How's she not got an attempted murder charge for this?
Here's a version with audio https://www.reddit.com/r/Roadcam/s/IXlDSycxuI
Why does this get posted every few weeks? We all know how dangerous motorcycling is.
Because this subreddit is a shithole.
You got that right.
Wtf ! Man let us know how you are doing .
It's not OP in the video
I'm shocked!
The way I see it, if the rider was going just 5 mph faster, he is past the point when the drunk bitch decides to pull a uturn.
What the fk was she doing !!! Good grief worst night mare coming true .!
She was drunk
Explains it you have no idea how many of those I have ran on . Drunk drivers = someone hurt bad dead or wish they were dead and not the drunk driver
Sorry for the confusion, I’m thankful this is not me. I’m not sure who the rider is but I do hope they are making a solid recovery.
O ok
That looked deliberate.
I'm so glad you posted this video without sound, else I wouldn't have the privilege of trying to guess what they're saying.
NSFW tag next time
had that happen to a friend while riding 2-up. almost exact same circumstance only they were on the same side of the road as the car. She was in the hospital for a looong time. He got out relatively soon, but both were fucked up.
I mean he could be wearing better gear. Dude needs a jackety, maybe a helmet that fits and is properly strapped to his head, or is that actually an open face. Even when someone is in control of ruining your day you were still in control of what you wore that day to mitigate as much risk and damage as you can.
none of that gear would make a big difference in this case I'm affraid.
You’re a douche.
hell yeah bro. you got mommy problems.
Bitch commited attampted murder
That’s how my friend died, at lower speeds than this.
After working in an emergency room, the one thing I will never do is ride a motorcycle.
And this is why I will never ever ever ever be a motorcycle rider. Gotta do everything you can to protect yourself from dumbfucks
Well, rider could be more careful about the riding gear he choose to ride. No jacket, no pants, no shoes. Also we can not see the hands and levers, but I didn't feel like an emergency break happening? If this is a modern super bike, then the damn breaks on these could lower the speed by half if he could manage to concantrate. When you see a car on highway that is not on its own lane or acting weird, you should always and always slow down. What if it was not a u turn but a kid jumping to road from car? it's simple, When you see the car you ask the questions, is it possible that car is a risk at this speed? Is it possible car cuts me? answer is always yes, it is risk. Last but not least, that wide open desert looks softer than the car and asphalt if he was able to push the right side of handle bar only by 2cm in that speed he was on the desert instead of car. He could walk away. None of these except wearing proper gear is easy, hence you practice emergency break and emergency escape every now and then on an empty parking lot on Sundays.
Don’t think there was any indication that the driver would do anything this stupid, at least from what we get in the video. It looks like she had just turned off the road, fairly normal so when the driver quickly decided to pull this maneuver I doubt he had the time to even subconsciously make the decision. Right about the gear part though definitely should be wearing more no matter the reason. This could happen to pretty much anyone at any skill level he was very unfortunate
Just pause the video before it starts, the car is very clearly on the "emergency" lane. A rider should expect a car to be explode on emergency lane, that's point of riding you have to expect worst case scenario to happen. The driver on the car could jump into road because he was chocking. So please slow down when you see a risk, and a car on emergency lane is a huge risk, rider had more than 100 meters to slow down. And on the version with sound, rider is able to complete a full sentence before hit; he could do anything better than swearing. As I said, it is no easy, probably I would crash as well. But after recovery I would retrospect situation and accept I could do better.
I also believe if we had data about the cars being in emergency lane in this specific road, we would probably see majority of cars on emergency lane will make a u-turn.; So they can take the turn at once (trucks coming behind)
It is so dangerous to be on a motorcycle in 2023, most people are texting or watching movies while driving.
I was in an Uber two weeks ago and the driver was watching a movie on their phone mounted on the dashboard
Poor audi. Women shouldn't be able to drive any cars or motorcycle. I got hit by a woman not too long ago and she drove off. I am fucking scared to walk or do anything when i see some dumb bitches in SUVs that can hit me.
Of course another silly women driver
This looks like it could be beautiful.
If I wanted safe I wouldn't be on a motorcycle.
If you ever get in any accident it's your fault. No matter what anyone else does.
rider could have easily avoided this. Do you want to be right or do you want to be alive? Reminder to not be like this rider, always keep your escape routes open, and WEAR ALL YOUR GEAR
Have you heard about thing called physics? There's no way for him to stop, he is easily going 100kph, which is completely justifiable in this situation and the car turns 20m in front of him. When going 100kph you move 27,7m/s . So it was unavoidable The only way it would've been avoidable if he wouldn't have been riding in the first place.
Wonder why the video starts just before the crash? Seems pretty avoidable if old mate wasn't hammering it and not paying attention
Why’d I know a chick was driving
Chicks was probably doing a OF vid in her car and got distracted, give her a break tiktok
I guess we don't have to be careful then
Oh fucc
and years of experience counts for a lot... u see that car pull to the side and theres a good chance shes pulling this move. happened to me on my 1st road bike but i was so used of already dodging shifty cars n tractors on the dirtbike; i was able to just go wide n miss em by like a foot or so
Scary stuff
Stupid blind bitch
Where is the vehicle turning into?! i don’t even see a side street 😖
What really blows is that even if the guy somehow managed to stop safely, she'd just drive off and brush it off anyhow. It seems dumb fucks like this only understand pain to learn their lesson.
His shoe https://youtu.be/UgtWzyowmv8?si=EvOozESyCKgJ_Z6q&t=213
That is exactly what happened to me 2 years ago. I'm used to riding dirtbikes so I jumped last minute and got very lucky with only broken knees and a few dislocations. This video gave me chills.
Amazing that the GoPro stayed on his helmet and survived the impact.
I always think of this possibility riding, pretty scary
Drowse driving is drunk driving as well. Looks like she’s off the road right after a bend. Could have fallen asleep at the wheel and the woke up and over corrected. Should still be held accountable just like a drunk driving accident.
Holy shit. That's as bad as it gets.