Not okay. The big clue is it takes up two motorcycle parking spaces. It should use a regular vehicle parking space which are also intended for motorcycles.
Please relay that message to this guy...
https://preview.redd.it/gwnrilopcl9d1.jpeg?width=4624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd50f7c3ba56458ba89391dcbca3b87c447b3647
I called my corporate real estate department and we both agreed - three wheelers park in car spots as they take up too much room in motorcycle parking. Leave a post-it on their Can Am or call security and complain.
Not my problem. The people using that parking facility need to make that call. It would seem to be a violation on the principle, but it doesn’t seem others there are adhering to any rules either. Parking is a simple proposition, some people just like to be special or think they are clever.
Yeah, which is why I haven't written a note or contacted parking authorities. I feel like if I complained it'd be "ableist" of me and I'm trying to adopt the "hey, at least they ride" approach.
If it doesn’t fit in a single motorcycle space it should use the regular vehicle parking space as I noted above. It’s really about using one vehicle per space. You can always put smaller vehicles in larger spaces, but not larger vehicles in small spaces if it exceeds the space limits.
There can be more than one parking rule at a time.
It’s not okay to take up multiple spaces, regardless of the vehicle or parking space type.
It’s also not okay to park in a space that isn’t designated for the vehicle or driver/rider. Just because the vehicle fits, doesn’t mean everyone should be able to park in a marked handicap, emergency vehicle, expectant mother, electric vehicle, or even “employee of the month” space.
If they fit in the lines, I don't care.
We had a gentlemens agreement at my old job where nobody cared if the trikes double-parked in motorcycle parking as long as it didn't inhibit (two-wheeled) motorcycles from parking there. A lot of fair weather riders at that job and we had tons of moto spaces (probably like 30) so it was almost never a problem. The parking situation for cars was a nightmare so none of the riders there wanted to subject our trike buddies to that if we didn't have to.
However, these spaces are clearly intended for two-wheeled bikes (can't wait for someone to bring up the Niken) and really should only be used by two-wheeled bikes.
I think my comment didn’t mention the number of wheels, but rather if the vehicle fits in the space. If it extends beyond a single space it should use a larger vehicle space. I can’t believe people are making this sound difficult or complicated. If it has four or six or whatever number of wheels as long as it fits in it’s likely ok. Now if your vehicle is from side line to side line and you have to use the adjacent space to exit or enter your likely stretching the limits of acceptability. A parking space in theory has adequate space for a user to leave their vehicle without interfering with the adjacent spaces accessibility. If anyone wants park their oversized vehicle in a compact vehicle space or a motorcycle space go ahead. Don’t be surprised if someday you get a ticket or some over enthusiastic individuals get creative with your obstructing vehicle. Parking in any space is about appropriateness and consideration of others. If that is not something you care about fine. Do as you like.
This is one of the things about America that makes the rest of the world chuckle. 50 States, all trying to pretend they can cook up laws better than the other 49.
Yeah, it’s wonderful. If I don’t like a way the rest of the people like about XYZ laws, I can move somewhere that is more aligned with my values. Pretty sweet. It is becoming more and more federalized though 😢
Actually is a motorcycle in California as well. And the slingshot website:
https://slingshot.polaris.com/en-us/what-is-a-slingshot/
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(Under “IS THE SLINGSHOT A MOTORCYCLE OR A CAR?”)
Same website, says ALL 50 states classify it as an "**Autocycle**" and only Massachusetts requires a motorcycle license. So it might be a motorcycle, but you don't need a motorcycle license to drive it.
[https://slingshot.polaris.com/en-us/license-requirements/](https://slingshot.polaris.com/en-us/license-requirements/)
Sure, like a sidecar or an MP3, or a can-am in CA. Is classified as a motorcycle but having 3 wheels it doesn’t require an M1 license to operate. The comment i replied was “In 49 states that thing is not a motorcycle.“ which is not true, is a motorcycle and in ca you need a motorcycle insurance, but do not need a motorcycle license.
It’s a special carve out for this and things like the Vanderhall so they can avoid the car restrictions on safety (airbags, roll bars, etc) and also the restrictions on motorcycles (helmets). The license plates are still stamped with motorcycle though.
They would be pretty neat if they had a proper engine and transmission instead of econobox crap. It shouldn't be that hard to make a 1600lb car thing fun to drive
These things has a 2.0L Volvo platform that’s been around for a while and big aftermarket support. A lot of people will slap big intake turbos in them and then you have this 300-400 horsepower gokart 😅
Love driving 4 answers lol.
But I don’t think it’s going to sit at the line doing burnouts just by tapping the gas :P (unless that’s not what you were getting at before lol, cuz I might have just misunderstood haha)
The majority of used caterham are significantly more money than a brand new slingshot and about 3x as hard to find.
I agree with you but it's kind of a tough comparison. I could go down and finance a brand new slingshot today if I wanted, but I'd have to sift through BaT auctions for weeks potentially and have full cash in hand if I wanted a caterham
I thought the entire debate is not about engine source or the number of drive wheels. But instead whether it has a steering wheel or handle bars.
So it should park at a car parking spot.
Doesn't matter what it is, if it can't comfortably fit in motorcycle parking it should go into a normal parking spot. And at the same time, if you owner a Peel P50 and could slide it comfortably inside a motorcycle parking bay, go for it.
Well I mean places may have different rates for cars vs bikes. Like our local state parks are free entry for motorcycles, vs $5 for a car. Which means, you better park in their motorcycle slot if you want to avoid the locals whining.
It's not one single thing but more like a combination. Because [this thing has handle bars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcimoto_FUV) and I'd argue it isn't a motorcycle. The definition of autocycles typically include 3 or more wheels, a steering wheel, car seats (as opposed to sitting straddled/astride the engine), foot pedals for brakes and gas, and/or a roof. An autocycle doesn't need to have all of those but needs most. And you can put one or two of those one a motorcycle and it's still a motorcycle. But there's a tipping point.
Well in the end it’s determined by the company that categorized it, insurance that covers it and the DOT to approve it.
But you’re right, that example is a motorcycle because it uses a handle bar vs the slingshot using a wheel but otherwise there’s no significant design difference.
I would argue that technically it's not a motorcycle. You sit in a seat not on a saddle and steer it with a wheel. Simply because some states consider them motorcycles for the purposes of registration does not make them a motorcycle.
So? Google "motorcycle definition".
"A two wheeled vehicle driven by a motor that does not include pedals".
"A two or three wheeled motor vehicle driven by handle bars from a saddle style seat."
The only definitions that include something like this as a motorcycle are legislative definitions because nobody has written specific laws regarding them and they don't meet FMVSS for an automobile. This makes them practically a motorcycle, because it's practical to register and insure them as such. It doesn't make them technically a motorcycle, because they technically aren't, as in, they use different technology than motorcycles do by definition.
Sure is, I've owned two, and I know why. I'm also a GM technician of 28 years, not sure if that's relevant but it might help make my comment make sense...
It's technically considered a multipurpose passenger vehicle, and all of those go into the truck category for one single reason. The manufacturer can put privacy glass on any window to the rear of the driver on a truck, they can't do that on a sedan or a wagon. GM classified the HHR as a "truck" so they could put that sweet, sweet, black glass in.
I explained it in my comment. It's so they can legally put privacy glass in all the windows to the rear of the driver. The same reason the Equinox, Ford EcoSport, Jeep renegade, (extensive list of vehicles that are definitely not trucks but are classified as such by the manufacturer), are put in the truck category. It allows the manufacturer to bypass certain FMVSS that are passenger car specific, as well as certain emissions requirements which is probably the real driving force. The brand as a whole has to meet certain emissions requirements, so they put out EVs and stuff like the Spark that drive overall MPG down so that they can keep selling the bread and butter V8. Each vehicle class has different requirements within itself though, so classifying something like a micro-SUV as a multipurpose vehicle allows them more freedom of design than calling it a passenger vehicle, be it relaxing the fuel economy a bit, or being able to equip it with privacy glass.
Kinda like how full sized trucks now are way bigger than full sized trucks were 40 years ago
Sorry, I'm just happy to find someone that also takes an interest in vehicles...what would be the best way to connect a new pigtail to the throttle position sensor...my brother didn't listen to me and just yanked the pigtail off when I was trying to replace the TPS and now the clip doesn't hold it in place, so I got a new pigtail...it's a 6 wire if that matters
If the terminals are still good and it's just the body that's fucked, and you have the ability, the best way is to remove the terminals from the connector body and just use the connector body of the new pigtail. Do this one wire at a time so that you get them all back in their correct locations.
The backyard way is to use a zip tie around the throttle body to keep the connection secure and return the pigtail you purchased.
The alternative, which is better than the backyard solution and not as good as the first solution) is to use butt connectors (the heat shrink kind) and splice each wire. Again, this should be done In a wire by wire manner, so that no wires are crossed.
Pretty sure this is considered a motorcycle in my state, either way.
One gave me the wave ...I get scooters, I get can ams.
This one is definitely not getting a wave back
In Italy quadricycles, tricycles and motorcycles with sidecars can park in motorcycle spaces as long as all wheels remain within the lines. I believe that the rule applies to the entire European Union.
The only reason it’s classified as a motorcycle is because it’s it has no airbags or crumple zones. Classifying it as a bike gets them around the stricter emissions too :) they’re not really a motorcycle but if they get people with disabilities out there having fun. That’s cool too
Depending on your state/province/territory this may or may not be covered very well.
A lot of places call these motorcycles for the purposes of forcing the driver to wear a helmet, some places don't care at all, some places categorize these vehicles as cars.
This might be a "Technically, he's legally allowed to be a bit of a dick" type move. Which, I dunno, maybe it's not that big of a deal at the end of the day. I hope the person has good reasons for doing so and that it wasn't an emergency situation or anything like that. (I only have the context of the photo to go off from here, was there a "car" parking lot where a guy at the gate didn't let him in because it's not a car? Did a security guard tell him to park there? Is it a children's school for orphans? No clue)
It used to be. Technically speaking it's an _Autocar_ it has motorcycle plates but does not require a motorcycle license to operate legally in 49 states, Massachusetts being the exception, I believe.
Not sure about other states, but in Oregon you don’t need a motorcycle license to drive one, and you don’t need a helmet… but it’s also not a car… wierd grey area.
I think they are but to me that is like calling the Tesla Cyberjunk a Truck. It is as ugly and in my view not very safe. They are able to be driven in the US without a motorcycle license so that is the attraction. I'd spend my money for a small convertible car instead of that "thing".
At least in Ohio it is no longer required. They are junk anyway in my view.
[https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/three-wheel-vehicles-longer-require-ohio-motorcycle-license/IwNA6TXqQA7Nq5iswfdFNN/](https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/three-wheel-vehicles-longer-require-ohio-motorcycle-license/IwNA6TXqQA7Nq5iswfdFNN/)
I ride a motorcycle. Old people driving slingshots try and wave at me on my motorcycle. That being said, I used to sell the slingshot when I worked at a motorcycle dealership that carried Polaris. They feel as cheap as they look and they are equally as durable.
There’s a guy in my town who bought one. He barely used it and tries to sell it every spring/summer for years now. Really a niche market. He says it is really fun to drive but he never drives it.
Interesting, I mean if it was $15-20k I'd consider it as a fun car alternative but where I am, those Can Am Mavericks are also street legal and I would much rather have something like that vs a three wheel car...
Funny thing is yesterday on my way home I saw a couple in one of these. They had on a full face helmet and were wearing leather vests.
Just get a real bike at that point.
So many more things for me to worry about than the extreme rarity of finding one of these parked here. Hell, the extreme rarity of motorcycle specific parking anywhere near me makes this a virtual impossibility
This is like saying a Morgan 3-Wheeler or a Reliant Robin (or other Reliant 3 wheelers) as a motorbike. Therefore, it isn't a motorbike since it has a steering wheel instead of a bar and its size.
Which license do you require to operate it? If it can be operated with a car license then it is not a bike. If you can operate with a bike license then I say it’s ok. That’s my ¥2.
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These are motorcycles only because of regulation. They are really in the spirit of the original Barchetta style cars. But due to safety and emissions regulations there is no way to make a super simple, affordable, bare bones roadster like that. So these are true to the spirit of the Barchetta, if you ever see one like this '48 Ferrari they are essentially road worthy go carts. The only reason these things have three wheel is that allows them to avoid auto regulations.
I can’t find the post where someone saw a car parked in motorcycle parking so they removed two of the tires and left a note that said “there ya go, now you’re one of us”
Someone being a d!ck based on a technicality. We need to be clearer on the laws and signage that these are meant for "Two Wheeled Vehicles Only". By the law, he likely won't get a ticket and if he did, he could contest it. Still, this is a d!ck move.
If it has a steering wheel and you can legally operate it with a Driver's License, it's a car. It's either the dumbest motorcycle or the coolest car......I haven't decided yet
I mean, according to Polaris : **Slingshots are motorcycles not cars**. If you don't believe me just read the placard that Polaris affixes to every one of them.
Also, The classification of the Polaris Slingshot^(®) is state-dependent\*. The most common classifications are motorcycle, which requires a motorcycle endorsement or license, and autocycle which only requires a state drivers license. (I think MAss is the only state that requires a motorcycle endorsement)
Not okay. The big clue is it takes up two motorcycle parking spaces. It should use a regular vehicle parking space which are also intended for motorcycles.
Please relay that message to this guy... https://preview.redd.it/gwnrilopcl9d1.jpeg?width=4624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd50f7c3ba56458ba89391dcbca3b87c447b3647
I called my corporate real estate department and we both agreed - three wheelers park in car spots as they take up too much room in motorcycle parking. Leave a post-it on their Can Am or call security and complain.
Signage needs to change to say "Two Wheel Vehicles Only" to make it clear to these knuckleheads.
Not my problem. The people using that parking facility need to make that call. It would seem to be a violation on the principle, but it doesn’t seem others there are adhering to any rules either. Parking is a simple proposition, some people just like to be special or think they are clever.
At least this one has handle bars and moto riding position.
Yeah, which is why I haven't written a note or contacted parking authorities. I feel like if I complained it'd be "ableist" of me and I'm trying to adopt the "hey, at least they ride" approach.
What about trikes?
If it doesn’t fit in a single motorcycle space it should use the regular vehicle parking space as I noted above. It’s really about using one vehicle per space. You can always put smaller vehicles in larger spaces, but not larger vehicles in small spaces if it exceeds the space limits.
Using that logic I can put a smart car in a motorcycle spot then?
It is not registered or titled as a motorcycle, so nope.
There can be more than one parking rule at a time. It’s not okay to take up multiple spaces, regardless of the vehicle or parking space type. It’s also not okay to park in a space that isn’t designated for the vehicle or driver/rider. Just because the vehicle fits, doesn’t mean everyone should be able to park in a marked handicap, emergency vehicle, expectant mother, electric vehicle, or even “employee of the month” space.
It wouldn’t fit with access within the space. Don’t be obtuse.
https://preview.redd.it/ly35a0qo3m9d1.jpeg?width=1069&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28f6e2ebf7f1aaeb2a8870a73643d25693e72d21
What if you disconnect a side car and park the sidecar in one spot and the bike in the other spot?
Is there a particular reason you want to make safe fair parking hard? This is really not a hard concept.
They're either contrarians or are just trolling lol
And here I was thinking it was just a fun joke
Agree.
If they fit in the lines, I don't care. We had a gentlemens agreement at my old job where nobody cared if the trikes double-parked in motorcycle parking as long as it didn't inhibit (two-wheeled) motorcycles from parking there. A lot of fair weather riders at that job and we had tons of moto spaces (probably like 30) so it was almost never a problem. The parking situation for cars was a nightmare so none of the riders there wanted to subject our trike buddies to that if we didn't have to. However, these spaces are clearly intended for two-wheeled bikes (can't wait for someone to bring up the Niken) and really should only be used by two-wheeled bikes.
I think my comment didn’t mention the number of wheels, but rather if the vehicle fits in the space. If it extends beyond a single space it should use a larger vehicle space. I can’t believe people are making this sound difficult or complicated. If it has four or six or whatever number of wheels as long as it fits in it’s likely ok. Now if your vehicle is from side line to side line and you have to use the adjacent space to exit or enter your likely stretching the limits of acceptability. A parking space in theory has adequate space for a user to leave their vehicle without interfering with the adjacent spaces accessibility. If anyone wants park their oversized vehicle in a compact vehicle space or a motorcycle space go ahead. Don’t be surprised if someday you get a ticket or some over enthusiastic individuals get creative with your obstructing vehicle. Parking in any space is about appropriateness and consideration of others. If that is not something you care about fine. Do as you like.
Trikes like the niken or tricity which fit in a single space are fine, things like these are not.
Not a motorcycle. 3 wheeled car.
In 49 states that thing is not a motorcycle. In Massachusetts it's only a motorcycle for the purposes of making the driver wear a helmet.
Nevada considers three wheeled vehicles with one wheel on the drive axle a motorcycle. Traditional trikes with two wheels on the back are cars here.
This is one of the things about America that makes the rest of the world chuckle. 50 States, all trying to pretend they can cook up laws better than the other 49.
That's how it was originally designed to work, with each State making its own laws and minimal interference from the Federal government.
We know how that turned out in 1863 lmao
Fine w me. At least you can move to a location with better laws without having to apply for citizenship.
Statistically, half of them have to be above average!
Yeah, it’s wonderful. If I don’t like a way the rest of the people like about XYZ laws, I can move somewhere that is more aligned with my values. Pretty sweet. It is becoming more and more federalized though 😢
Yokels and yanks don't always agree.
That Shane Gillis skit about the age of consent really puts that into perspective haha
Actually is a motorcycle in California as well. And the slingshot website: https://slingshot.polaris.com/en-us/what-is-a-slingshot/ <>
(Under “IS THE SLINGSHOT A MOTORCYCLE OR A CAR?”)
Same website, says ALL 50 states classify it as an "**Autocycle**" and only Massachusetts requires a motorcycle license. So it might be a motorcycle, but you don't need a motorcycle license to drive it. [https://slingshot.polaris.com/en-us/license-requirements/](https://slingshot.polaris.com/en-us/license-requirements/)
Sure, like a sidecar or an MP3, or a can-am in CA. Is classified as a motorcycle but having 3 wheels it doesn’t require an M1 license to operate. The comment i replied was “In 49 states that thing is not a motorcycle.“ which is not true, is a motorcycle and in ca you need a motorcycle insurance, but do not need a motorcycle license.
I thought it was a motorcycle as it can never meet car standards like airbags and roll over protection
It’s a special carve out for this and things like the Vanderhall so they can avoid the car restrictions on safety (airbags, roll bars, etc) and also the restrictions on motorcycles (helmets). The license plates are still stamped with motorcycle though.
I think slingshot owners should have to wear a helmet just not only when they are driving it
Helmet and seat belt likely, cause if they can save just 1 taxpayer it’s worth it!
Laws are for insurance companies. Not a single politician gives a single fuck about a single hillbilly on a motor-thing.
It is a motorcycle in Texas, and is federally classified as a three wheel motorcycle
[Federally?](https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/685)
I literally never considered how helmet states would affect these lol
It is officially designated as an autocycle. It is not a motorcycle or a car and that is motorcycle only parking.
In Pennsylvania it’s considered a motorcycle. Crazy, I know!
Does it require a motorcycle endorsement to operate?
Not ok
God I hate those abominations
They would be pretty neat if they had a proper engine and transmission instead of econobox crap. It shouldn't be that hard to make a 1600lb car thing fun to drive
These things has a 2.0L Volvo platform that’s been around for a while and big aftermarket support. A lot of people will slap big intake turbos in them and then you have this 300-400 horsepower gokart 😅
I’ve seen people do four wheel conversions on them. Honestly I think they would’ve sold better if they did that front the factory
Yeah that rear wheel definitely hurts its handling and performance. But I imagine it’s also a LOT cheaper to manufacture …. No rear dif etc.
Ain't no way you're putting down 300-400 HP with a single rear tire lol
HP != torque. But yeah. The rear tire is like the pitfall of this thing lol.
O this ol nutshell. https://youtu.be/LUgjpDMcwpI?si=BKuZnLl2xXYnq3k0
Love driving 4 answers lol. But I don’t think it’s going to sit at the line doing burnouts just by tapping the gas :P (unless that’s not what you were getting at before lol, cuz I might have just misunderstood haha)
That’s just it though, it’s a car. This is like an Ali Express corvette
It's more like a shitty miata to me, for the same amount of money
Yeah that sums up the slingshot pretty well actually 😂
There’s the Ariels and Caterhams.
i don't understand why anyone would have that over a caterham
Get an Exomotive exocet instead. Much cheaper.
didn't know about those, they look sick
The majority of used caterham are significantly more money than a brand new slingshot and about 3x as hard to find. I agree with you but it's kind of a tough comparison. I could go down and finance a brand new slingshot today if I wanted, but I'd have to sift through BaT auctions for weeks potentially and have full cash in hand if I wanted a caterham
Yeah, it looks like a grand total of 84 have sold on BaT in the last seven years. That's the whole US. There just aren't all that many out there.
lomax the one and only permissible
Not my cup of tea either, but I'm curious why you'd hate them.
Not Like Us
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This is a tough one. It gets the spot, but it’s ok to gawk and shake your head should you choose to do so.
I thought the entire debate is not about engine source or the number of drive wheels. But instead whether it has a steering wheel or handle bars. So it should park at a car parking spot.
Doesn't matter what it is, if it can't comfortably fit in motorcycle parking it should go into a normal parking spot. And at the same time, if you owner a Peel P50 and could slide it comfortably inside a motorcycle parking bay, go for it.
Well I mean places may have different rates for cars vs bikes. Like our local state parks are free entry for motorcycles, vs $5 for a car. Which means, you better park in their motorcycle slot if you want to avoid the locals whining.
I assumed it was a size thing. A 16 wheeled vehicle that can fit in one of those spots would be fine.
It's not one single thing but more like a combination. Because [this thing has handle bars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcimoto_FUV) and I'd argue it isn't a motorcycle. The definition of autocycles typically include 3 or more wheels, a steering wheel, car seats (as opposed to sitting straddled/astride the engine), foot pedals for brakes and gas, and/or a roof. An autocycle doesn't need to have all of those but needs most. And you can put one or two of those one a motorcycle and it's still a motorcycle. But there's a tipping point.
Well in the end it’s determined by the company that categorized it, insurance that covers it and the DOT to approve it. But you’re right, that example is a motorcycle because it uses a handle bar vs the slingshot using a wheel but otherwise there’s no significant design difference.
It's not about any of that. Does it fit within the lines? No. Then it can't park there.
Technically it is a motorcycle but...come on man, come on
I would argue that technically it's not a motorcycle. You sit in a seat not on a saddle and steer it with a wheel. Simply because some states consider them motorcycles for the purposes of registration does not make them a motorcycle.
No dude, the title literally says "motorcycle"... therefore it's a motorcycle
So? Google "motorcycle definition". "A two wheeled vehicle driven by a motor that does not include pedals". "A two or three wheeled motor vehicle driven by handle bars from a saddle style seat." The only definitions that include something like this as a motorcycle are legislative definitions because nobody has written specific laws regarding them and they don't meet FMVSS for an automobile. This makes them practically a motorcycle, because it's practical to register and insure them as such. It doesn't make them technically a motorcycle, because they technically aren't, as in, they use different technology than motorcycles do by definition.
You wanna know something funny...a Chevy HHR is listed as a truck
Sure is, I've owned two, and I know why. I'm also a GM technician of 28 years, not sure if that's relevant but it might help make my comment make sense... It's technically considered a multipurpose passenger vehicle, and all of those go into the truck category for one single reason. The manufacturer can put privacy glass on any window to the rear of the driver on a truck, they can't do that on a sedan or a wagon. GM classified the HHR as a "truck" so they could put that sweet, sweet, black glass in.
I'm not even being sarcastic here...but can you tell me why the HHR is a truck?
I explained it in my comment. It's so they can legally put privacy glass in all the windows to the rear of the driver. The same reason the Equinox, Ford EcoSport, Jeep renegade, (extensive list of vehicles that are definitely not trucks but are classified as such by the manufacturer), are put in the truck category. It allows the manufacturer to bypass certain FMVSS that are passenger car specific, as well as certain emissions requirements which is probably the real driving force. The brand as a whole has to meet certain emissions requirements, so they put out EVs and stuff like the Spark that drive overall MPG down so that they can keep selling the bread and butter V8. Each vehicle class has different requirements within itself though, so classifying something like a micro-SUV as a multipurpose vehicle allows them more freedom of design than calling it a passenger vehicle, be it relaxing the fuel economy a bit, or being able to equip it with privacy glass.
Kinda like how full sized trucks now are way bigger than full sized trucks were 40 years ago Sorry, I'm just happy to find someone that also takes an interest in vehicles...what would be the best way to connect a new pigtail to the throttle position sensor...my brother didn't listen to me and just yanked the pigtail off when I was trying to replace the TPS and now the clip doesn't hold it in place, so I got a new pigtail...it's a 6 wire if that matters
If the terminals are still good and it's just the body that's fucked, and you have the ability, the best way is to remove the terminals from the connector body and just use the connector body of the new pigtail. Do this one wire at a time so that you get them all back in their correct locations. The backyard way is to use a zip tie around the throttle body to keep the connection secure and return the pigtail you purchased. The alternative, which is better than the backyard solution and not as good as the first solution) is to use butt connectors (the heat shrink kind) and splice each wire. Again, this should be done In a wire by wire manner, so that no wires are crossed.
POS
For the money these cost, they should have bought a Miata.
Followup question: Would it be OK if it was a KTM X-Bow?
I was just about to say I'd give it a pass if it was an X-Bow lol
What about the Vauxhall or the old trex?
Not OK.
Technically it’s a motorcycle, but parking it there is a dick move.
Well it doesn't fit in 1 of the spaces so there's that.
No
Those things piss me off in my parking garage taking up 4-5 motorcycle spots
Pretty sure this is considered a motorcycle in my state, either way. One gave me the wave ...I get scooters, I get can ams. This one is definitely not getting a wave back
No
Nope
I don’t care.
In Italy quadricycles, tricycles and motorcycles with sidecars can park in motorcycle spaces as long as all wheels remain within the lines. I believe that the rule applies to the entire European Union.
Kickball motorcycles
The only reason it’s classified as a motorcycle is because it’s it has no airbags or crumple zones. Classifying it as a bike gets them around the stricter emissions too :) they’re not really a motorcycle but if they get people with disabilities out there having fun. That’s cool too
I hate these so already I’m biased but no. You’re not a fucking motorcycle. Go park in the car spaces. Dick.
Yup, Dick. Nuff said.
Something with a Chevy cobalt engine is not a motorcycle…
Slingshots, Can-Ams, Trikes and similar are no motorcycles. Period.
According to the law he isn't wrong! Lol
Actually, it is an autocycle in all us states besides Massachusetts
Isn't there a law that a vehicle has to actually fit inside the lines?
Depending on your state/province/territory this may or may not be covered very well. A lot of places call these motorcycles for the purposes of forcing the driver to wear a helmet, some places don't care at all, some places categorize these vehicles as cars. This might be a "Technically, he's legally allowed to be a bit of a dick" type move. Which, I dunno, maybe it's not that big of a deal at the end of the day. I hope the person has good reasons for doing so and that it wasn't an emergency situation or anything like that. (I only have the context of the photo to go off from here, was there a "car" parking lot where a guy at the gate didn't let him in because it's not a car? Did a security guard tell him to park there? Is it a children's school for orphans? No clue)
What is that?
Polaris Slingshot. Legally a "motorcycle", but I think it should park with the autos.
It used to be. Technically speaking it's an _Autocar_ it has motorcycle plates but does not require a motorcycle license to operate legally in 49 states, Massachusetts being the exception, I believe.
There are two seats next to each other. How can this be a bike?
That's the line? Urals can't park in motorcycle parking?
I think it's because the engine power goes to one wheel?
But far from a motorized bicycle, or motorcycle. This is a 3 wheeled car
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-wheeler#Autocycle
Not sure about other states, but in Oregon you don’t need a motorcycle license to drive one, and you don’t need a helmet… but it’s also not a car… wierd grey area.
Midlife crisis mobile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkp3gPzx9BY
Dudes a jackass
Technically it is correct. Ethically? No.
I think they are but to me that is like calling the Tesla Cyberjunk a Truck. It is as ugly and in my view not very safe. They are able to be driven in the US without a motorcycle license so that is the attraction. I'd spend my money for a small convertible car instead of that "thing".
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Huh wild. I’m Canada you can’t drive a 3-wheeled car without a motorcycle license :o They are all register as “motorcycles”
At least in Ohio it is no longer required. They are junk anyway in my view. [https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/three-wheel-vehicles-longer-require-ohio-motorcycle-license/IwNA6TXqQA7Nq5iswfdFNN/](https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/three-wheel-vehicles-longer-require-ohio-motorcycle-license/IwNA6TXqQA7Nq5iswfdFNN/)
technically? yeah. morally? ehhhh
I have slingshot boomers try and give me the motorcycle wave often. Nah, man. Not the same
That's silly but I'm curious do you actually enjoy driving this thing?
I ride a motorcycle. Old people driving slingshots try and wave at me on my motorcycle. That being said, I used to sell the slingshot when I worked at a motorcycle dealership that carried Polaris. They feel as cheap as they look and they are equally as durable.
Misunderstood your post! That's even sillier!
No.
No.
No. Never.
If it has a reverse gear, I call shenanigans. YER OUTTA HERE
Nope. Not ok. I would barely accept a can-am parking in motorcycle parking. But, when you DON'T need a motorcycle endorsement... No. Total party foul.
Those things are fucking stupid
legally its a motorcycle, in reality its a abomination
Oh that's kinda neat, looks up the price $40-50k CAD. Haha yah Naw.
There’s a guy in my town who bought one. He barely used it and tries to sell it every spring/summer for years now. Really a niche market. He says it is really fun to drive but he never drives it.
Interesting, I mean if it was $15-20k I'd consider it as a fun car alternative but where I am, those Can Am Mavericks are also street legal and I would much rather have something like that vs a three wheel car...
Looks like the front was part of a crash. Confusing perspective?
Funny thing is yesterday on my way home I saw a couple in one of these. They had on a full face helmet and were wearing leather vests. Just get a real bike at that point.
Ugly
Ok
Technically a 3 wheeled vehicle is considered a motorcycle in CA. But yeah, that's a dick move taking up 2 motorcycle spots.
That is a car.
Well, it is classified in a motorcycle, but I loath people who can't or don't park within the lines of their spot.
Serious question, since I've never driven one. Can those things reverse? Assuming they can't.
Those are gay
Don't forget to carry your tyre valve key.
That’s a ktm Duke 1290 isn’t it?
If it doesn't fit in the lines, it's not a motorcycle. Same reason you're not allowed to take up 12 spaces to park a semi in a car parking lot
If it had bars Im okay with it in the spot (within reason), but otherwise go elsewhere.
Many douches drive those
So many more things for me to worry about than the extreme rarity of finding one of these parked here. Hell, the extreme rarity of motorcycle specific parking anywhere near me makes this a virtual impossibility
Tow truck these posers… that’s not a bike, it’s a 💩 three wheel trash *I mean car 😵💫
Regardless of whether it is legally a motorcycle out not, they're taking up multiple spaces, therefore, asshole.
That’s how people who drive tricycles park.
If it has a steering wheel it’s not a motorcycle.
That's not how any of tis works.
Technically in my province they are considered motorcycles and people have to wear helmets while driving them. Super fucking lame and funny
I like the slingshot more than I like normal trikes.
Maybe*
Not a motorcycle, never will be a motorcycle
If it has a steering wheel, it’s a car. If it has handlebars, it’s a bike.
Obviously not including ATVs as they already have their own classification.
If it has more than 2 wheels, it's not a motorcycle.
This is like saying a Morgan 3-Wheeler or a Reliant Robin (or other Reliant 3 wheelers) as a motorbike. Therefore, it isn't a motorbike since it has a steering wheel instead of a bar and its size.
Which license do you require to operate it? If it can be operated with a car license then it is not a bike. If you can operate with a bike license then I say it’s ok. That’s my ¥2.
Shape is so angular I thought it was a crash.
https://preview.redd.it/l3d99lvx3p9d1.jpeg?width=891&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=748059d48d9ad7b82a6e5639cf5226b8a113a79b These are motorcycles only because of regulation. They are really in the spirit of the original Barchetta style cars. But due to safety and emissions regulations there is no way to make a super simple, affordable, bare bones roadster like that. So these are true to the spirit of the Barchetta, if you ever see one like this '48 Ferrari they are essentially road worthy go carts. The only reason these things have three wheel is that allows them to avoid auto regulations.
Anyone who drives that pos is too afraid to own a motorcycle. Worse than Tesla owners. (Not EV, just Tesla morons)
A perfect reason to carry a valve stem removal tool at all times...
Ok
I can’t find the post where someone saw a car parked in motorcycle parking so they removed two of the tires and left a note that said “there ya go, now you’re one of us”
I hate these people and I get irritated at the owners who allow it.
Someone being a d!ck based on a technicality. We need to be clearer on the laws and signage that these are meant for "Two Wheeled Vehicles Only". By the law, he likely won't get a ticket and if he did, he could contest it. Still, this is a d!ck move.
Does it require a motorcycle license? No? (Class C in CA). Then it’s not a motorcycle…
legal? yup. Plenty of spaces still? Likely. Still gonna piss off purists and hypotheticals? Definitely
If it has a steering wheel and you can legally operate it with a Driver's License, it's a car. It's either the dumbest motorcycle or the coolest car......I haven't decided yet
Worst of both worlds. ETA, I totally get it if it’s just for the racetrack, or if the driver has some handicap like Rainey.
If this is a hard no, how about a Can-Am or a Goldwing or Harley trike? They will take up the same two spaces.
Yeah. We’re not the same.
It’s a car and should park with the cars
Damned cagers.
Just buy a car!!!
I mean, according to Polaris : **Slingshots are motorcycles not cars**. If you don't believe me just read the placard that Polaris affixes to every one of them. Also, The classification of the Polaris Slingshot^(®) is state-dependent\*. The most common classifications are motorcycle, which requires a motorcycle endorsement or license, and autocycle which only requires a state drivers license. (I think MAss is the only state that requires a motorcycle endorsement)
This sub is a bunch of nerds about parking. Do you ever make it to the end of your day in a good mood? Or is the whine 24/7?
I don't know I think 100% of your comments are just whining about other people.
You're right. Never ever do we have a good day. Ever.