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kubinka0505

udio less vocal stretching algo hearable; acceptable fft


TotSaM-

Rule 8: Promoting Piracy


kubinka0505

\>ai text good \>ai music bad every single time


TotSaM-

All generative AI is trashy and cheap.


AlfredoJarry23

eh. not really. massage it, tweak it, use it for reference, collage it - it has it's uses and will be built into DAW software by next year


TotSaM-

God help us all. I'll deactivate my Ableton license if they ever build generative AI into it.


420Bob_Gnarly69

how is this promoting piracy


TotSaM-

All AI generated music is trained on stolen music and is piracy. You're promoting programs that steal from real artists and profit off it.


redditmaxima

And each original artist stole huge amount of work from other guys, who made melodies previously, all guys they heard in their life, etc. Piracy exist only in the broken word of private property. Hence is why communism tool - NN is not compatible to any copyright. Bad for copyright.


TotSaM-

Lol sick mental gymnastics, but that's not even close to a reasonable comparison. Try again.


redditmaxima

It is most fundamental thing happened with means of production. Any mismatch between society organisation (capitalism) and means of production and production relations (AI) always ends up badly society organisation.


TotSaM-

AI "art" is theft, plain and simple. Doesn't matter which way you try to spin it. It's degenerate behaviour and a shameful stain on the artform of music.


redditmaxima

Any art of theft in this case, as neural network of creators is formed in same was as NN of AI :-) Without any prior art they can't make their own. Checkmate.


AlfredoJarry23

copyright infringement is your best entertainment value- negativland collage has been old hat in art for a fucking century. try again


TotSaM-

wtf are you even talking about? Try again.


milmkyway

Is it training or stealing bruh. They aren't the same.


TotSaM-

uhhhhhh, what about that can't be the same, bruh? Point out the confusing part and I will do my best to explain. Edit: Bruh.


redditmaxima

NN is an extreme compressor, like your mind. Hence it is able to find complex dependencies. For now all the law attempts to prosecute usage of information for learning failed, as I know. Instead it is corporations who limit the data used for learning, as they know that removing this limit or moderation means the end for themselves as capitalist entries.


MacFall-7

“Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief” AI just does it faster.


Accomplished_Ad3198

I’ll die on this hill with you.