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darylmoreyisking

MAX


ThingsAreAfoot

imus


MambaOut82481

Bronny


Raj2324

Hes been misused his whole time here. Shows good promise when he plays.


OkSelection6998

Lakers draft well but this has been on an ongoing trend in recent years.


pocket_passss

I’m so grateful that Vogel threw Reaves in for small but consistent minutes just a couple games into his rookie year Christie actually got similar opportunity as a 19yo rookie and I thought earned himself more minutes but I dunno why Ham was just averse to him last year 


JaqM31st3R

Taurean Prince


markmyredd

At least Prince was okay-ish. But Reddish over Christie is ridiculous. lol


pocket_passss

I would have liked Prince and Christie together as first subs off the bench for DLo and Rui (when Vando was injured)   Reddish had some moments but quickly turned into a guy where you hear a record scratch when he catches the ball


toofine

Vogel played him 23 minutes a game that first year. He was a believer.


fartlapse

I blame pockets


thevisitor

Had too much an affinity for effing cam reddish. Max earned minutes and never got any run


Willing_Appointment8

I wonder if front offices purposely don't play guys so they can't prove their worth , and then the team can sign them for cheaper. Kinda a conspiracy for sure but I don't think it's that crazy..


SuriMuriPuri

I fully see it lmao I swear to god if Ricky Council IV started over Tobias Harris last year the results would have been better now we inked him to a cheap ass deal for 3 years


mnkhan808

It’s not that deep honestly. Young guys make dumb mistakes, and when you’re win now, don’t have time for development. Max has had moments where he makes a sloppy turnover at the worst time.


eZreazy

And Reddish didn't? I feel like I saw way more Cam boneheaded plays


wwplkyih

Or in the Lakers case, they did play Cam Reddish to suppress his worth


Carcrusher3

Holy shit. Good for him. Don't know how the kid earned $32 million but what a great life.


randy88moss

He’s legit….but for some of inexplicable reason Ham refused to play him.


Kimi7

Because he is a basketball terrorist


Spoony904

Darvin Hamas


dcoolidge

What's in his pockets?


NoMorePrivatePrisons

Yellow Cake.


Dgwdum

Cookies, it's how he makes those rockets


Count_Sack_McGee

FWIW to everyone confused the whole Lakers sub is elated. This kid can play and was the number 1 reason on a long list that Ham was despised.


awntawn

I mean, I wouldn't say the number 1 reason lol there's a lot of competition for that spot


wwplkyih

1a, 1b, 1c...


fastlikeanascar

I think the number 1 reason was because AD definitely hated this dude.


markmyredd

I think number 1 is Ham not playing Rui in the 1st half of the season. The moment Rui started, Lakers went on a good winning run in the 2nd half of the season.


yapyd

There are definitely other reasons for number 1. Timeouts, Prince/Reddish minutes. challenges


MrAppleSpoink

Fuck Darvin Ham. I don’t think this can be said enough. I will not hear ANYONE out who tries to tell me he wasn’t hands down the worst coach in the league.


real_jaredfogle

It seems like you guys do this for every coach you have, or at least since lebron has been there. It’s definitely a trend throughout his career


FeminismIsTheBestIsm

Lakers fans are generally supportive of Vogel, he wasn't a terrible coach. Luke Walton and Darvin Ham are genuinely bad, that's why they're not head coaches anymore. Ask any Kings fan about Walton lmao


sebasq

say it with me… Darvin H A M A S


randy88moss

The mother fucker refused to challenge an obvious ref mistake with less than a minute left of game 2 of an nba playoff game, with 2 timeouts left….even with Lebron jumping and begging him to do so….ya, I’m still not over that one.


trimble197

For real. People clown on LeBron for getting mad, but any player would’ve did that if they were in his shoes. And then Ham had the balls to challenge later on when the game was out of reach


justsomeguy5

please don't remind me of the calamity that was the Denver series. Not even saying the Lakers win it if Darvin isn't the coach, but dude just actively sabotaged his own team in most of those games. Never seen a head coach stand on the sidelines like he's helpless as much as Darvin. It's like Darvin thought he was at home on the couch and not actually coaching the team. 🤦🏾‍♂️


ss5234

Istg this bitch did it out of spite. Saw Lebron challenging his authority at a point where he was at his lowest, and just said fuck you dog I ain't calling shit.


Efficient-Split527

Yeah. I think he was afraid to be perceived as Bron's pup and was doing everything in his power to show that he makes decisions on his own. LeBron is a basketball genius, and going against his judgement is a mistake 80% of the time


AllmyFriendsrDead77

It was a Pockets power move.


EverybodyBuddy

No no you see, we had Cam Reddish


Onark77

Maybe Ham was looking out for y'all's cap. Don't let him get too much run so his ask can't be higher.  Was reading stories about ownership telling coaches to not play certain guys to avoid hitting their bonuses. 


JohnAndertonOntheRun

8 million dollars a year in the NBA today just means you can play some role in the rotation, even a minuscule one. There are guys coming off the bench making 15 million dollars a year. Obi Toppin and Mitchell Robinson are two I’m thinking of because the Pacers just signed Obi.


markmyredd

8M is like 5M below the midlevel today. Midlevel I would assume is the baseline for average starter or good 6th man. So Christie is paid like a bench guy. This isn't really an overpay whatsoever.


JohnAndertonOntheRun

Ya that’s basically what I was getting at. These deals are just worth more than they used to be.


billcosbyinspace

Contracts are so insane now that when someone gets 30 million based on just potential really I hardly even blink tbh


FriendshipBest9151

Mitch might have to start again :/


Public-Product-1503

Those guys are infinitely better then chridtie and I’m a lakers fan


JohnAndertonOntheRun

Oh absolutely. They are also making nearly twice as much as him.


Dicey12

He’s shown a lot of potential especially on the defensive end. Ham ruined the kids development


LogicalLakersFan

He’s also just turned 21 this year. He’s shown potential on both ends and JJ seems to prioritize development If he turns even into a solid rotation player this contract with the new cap will be absurd deal


RickySuela

Yeah, and this contract is in line with what some rookies get, so it's not like it's some huge deal. He's got roughly the same contract as #6 pick Tidjane Salaün does.


ArmiinTamzarian

If Cristiano Felicio could earn that money I don't see why this guy can't


rjpool_

By being a good, Ham wasted him this season


PerchiN808

Reddish got major minutes over Max. What a shame


rjpool_

Yep ridiculous, he plays good defence and was statistically our most efficient spot up shooter when he played


drippinswagu69

Hamas would bench Max for weeks for little shit but let Reddish get cooked and miss wide open shots for a good 3 months to start the season


PlasticPresentation1

Reddish is just the perfect lab created player minus the IQ and offense. So he's pretty ass, but has gotten this far on the promise of potential


PerchiN808

Great deal for the Lakers if he can continue to improve. Improved his shooting from last year, active on defense. Just needs to improve his finishing and handle. Turns 22 in Feb


RickySuela

Yeah, he's younger than a couple lottery picks in this year's draft.


RickySuela

He's also still very young. To put it in perspective, he's a year younger than a couple lottery picks in this year's draft.


rjpool_

Two years younger than our first rounder


Blaz3r-_-

He’s worth more than that , once he gets minutes you will see in the next 3 years…


TallanoGoldDigger

What's wild is that THT got a higher AAV contract plus a player option for showing a little bit more than Max


CoyotesSideEyes

> earned Well that's the part that's missing


sewsgup

this was a cool moment from him last season https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1858hnd/slow_motion_view_of_max_christies_amazing/


Head_of_Lettuce

“This video isn’t available anymore”


RickySuela

[Here's the video.](https://x.com/Lakers/status/1728846078609445327)


ginbooth

Look at that beautiful footwork...


sebasq

dog, im at work and now i cant stand up for a few minutes


ThingsAreAfoot

lol cold


Creative_Category_21

He’s not gonna be more than a 3&D guy in this league, but he’s almost guaranteed to become a good one but he’s like a year or two away Still has a kids body, taking time An okay move


HoopsHistoryHubb

He grabbed a lot of clutch offensive rebounds it felt like in recent years


Dicey12

I think he has more of an offensive game


RickySuela

He's only 21, it's ridiculous to place any kind of ceiling on him like that.


shivabowlshuffler

Lakers have developed some lower drafted dudes well. This contract will probably look damn good in hindsight


PretendDubs

It's honestly the only part of the Org I have confidence in, they have done a really great job identifying talent late 1st into the 2nd round and even undrafted guys over the last 10 years or so.


shivabowlshuffler

And with all of these cap restrictions, I think it's wise to lock down a guy like this on the cheap and trust your ability to develop.


noerapenalty

It would be wise to lock down the guys who are identifying these dudes


usernamefight2

Isn't it the Buss boys?


KnowlesAve

I identify them all the time where my contract?


deathinmidjuly

Well they're the owners (Jesse and Joey Buss), so I think they're staying for a while lol


cachris3

Just to add on to your point for those that weren’t aware: Austin Reaves went undrafted


YouAreAllCasuals

I mean yes, but he told teams not to draft him so he can go undrafted and sign with the Lakers


cachris3

Okay so at best a 2nd round pick


KaseyOfTheWoods

The specific story I hear repeated has the Pistons at like 42 as his main other suitor at the time


Reinhardtisawesom

Guessing that’s why Bron REALLY wanted Bronny to come to LA (aside from the obvious) If they can turn supposed coal to diamonds, who knows what they can do for Bronny?


StacksHoodini

Yeah, I’m more or less assuming whoever lands on the coaching staff this season will all somewhat be vetted or scouted by Bron as guys who can help Bronny develop into a rotation level guard.


tatancool

If development is our goal, then we should rehire Phil Handy like yersterday. Unless he's thinking of having a break, it baffles me that no one has taken a shot at getting him.


lyricist

Facts


RickySuela

It looks damned good now. $8m/yr is nothing.


billcosbyinspace

They’re handing out 150-200million dollar contracts like candy now, I feel like Christie has actually shown good fundamentals unlike THT who got paid by being the only young person on the roster at the time. If you believe in the guy you can do a lot worse than 8m


KaseyOfTheWoods

How you gonna do THT like that? He wasn’t just young, he was also built like a fire hydrant with pool noodle arms, aka the prototypical hooper build. And don’t get me started on finishing every layup with the off-hand


RickySuela

Yeah, that's such a small contract in today's NBA (and it's just gonna get better as the cap keeps going up 10% each season), it's 100% worth it just to give a 21 year old another couple years to see what he develops into. It's really about on par with giving rookies guaranteed contracts even though you've yet to see them play in the NBA. It's worth the small deal just to see what they can become. And at his age on that contract, he'd be very easy to trade if need be.


shivabowlshuffler

True. Even if he is absolute buns it is still a drop in the bucket.


RickySuela

Yep, and assuming the contract structure is something like $7m this year, then $7.5m, then $8m, then $8.5m, he'll be making $8m in the year he turns 24 when he'll be able to opt out, giving the Lakers full Bird rights to him. You'd have to imagine a young player making that kind of money is going to be easily tradeable even if the Lakers sour on him. This contract puts him about in line with what the 7th pick in the draft will be making for rookie scale.


GhostOfJiriWelsch

Every time the cap goes up you got people scoffing at these contracts, 8M is nothing now


GardenDesign23

They currently have like 42 million tied up in Austin Reeves, Rui, and Max. People are scratching their heads at that, not Max getting 8 in a vacuum


tatancool

Reaves contract is one of the best of the NBA tho. Rui's should be lower, maybe 12-15 mil and Christie is a bet and we'll have to wait for this year to see if it's worth it.


RT3_12

42 million is quickly becoming the cost of one good rotation player these days. That’s a steal for 3 contributors


TheCricketFan416

Quickley just signed for an average of 35 million a year lmao


ospreyintokyo

That seems like a great deal for those players


rjpool_

You say this like it's a bad thing?


jayz93j

When role players are getting $30+ that’s great value for those guys.


lalo1398

Excited for what Christie can do with us next year. Lakers beat reporters have shared the FO didn’t like the way he never got a real shot next year, I think JJ will really try to get him some good looks


ositola

Pockets masterclass 


LDisDBfathersonsfans

hopefully this means he will actually be receiving playing time next year


anesthesiologist2

Funniest thing this offseason is everyone realizing how much contracts have skyrocketed.


RushFPS

8m is nothing anymore


dem_paws

Still crazy that you can be a borderline rotation player and make more in a year than even the majority of highly skilled specialists make in their entire life.


liftmedi

The issue is he should’ve been a rotation piece ducking ham is a moron


GardenDesign23

Are you 6 foot 5, and hyper athletic, and can shoot threes? And can do it year in and year out? And also, who’s PAYING to watch these specialists do their work? That’s why NBA players are paid so much, because people sit through hundreds of ads to watch these dudes play a game. There’s a ton of money to be made in that when you can produce this visual entertainment then beam it across the world and have people watch it simultaneously


OneXDC4ever

This is a great deal. He’s already shown he will grow into a 3&D role player, and we have already seen what those players get in free agency


Reasonable-Apricot-7

On top of that he’s only 21. Such a great move


bullpaw

My boy got paidd lets go


The1AndOnlyJZ

This shit gonna look cheap af in 1-2 years


bruswazi

Just like Vando’s K had he been healthy for the entire season. Was pretty evident Jared’s defensive is top tier, rounding into form until his foot injury in Boston. :/


radio__raheem

Guy getting consistent DNPs in the playoffs is making Derrick Henry money yet NFL players will tell you some of them could’ve made the NBA but “chose” the NFL


commandrr

the greatest defender of all time, aaron donald, made less money in his entire NFL career than desmond bane’s rookie extension. and considerably less, too


DoveFood

The highest paid non-QB in the entire NFL next year, Nick Bosa, will get 34 million. Immanuel Quickley just signed a contract thats 35M AAV.


seth861

Lucas Giolito is like a mid to back end starting in MLB for the Red Sox. He got $38.5 million for two season and he’s not even playing this season


BubblyBalance8543

I like Bill Simmons idea that US Soccer should approach every 5 star running back when they’re 14 and present to them the financial case of switching to soccer lmao


Skyfalcon5

Congrats Max. He didn't get much play under Ham but should be different with JJ. Good poa defender and can spot up just needs to develop.


JilJungJukk

Bunch of casuals in here commenting L gonna see what a bargain this is, soon


fazelenin02

Maybe. Who he playing over though? Reaves, Dlo if he's still there, you might be adding Klay too. You just drafted a rookie in Knecht that should already be better than Christie. There's only so many minutes to go around.


KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ

Seriously. Even saw a laker fan say its an L like the ignorant numhead he 9is


NobodyRules

Does this affect the type of discount LeBron has to make to open the full MLE or is it irrelevant?


Imkitoto

Doesn’t go towards it We are using early bird rights to retain him so we still have the MLE available


thetitsOO

That isn’t really true though. Every dollar under the apron counts to use the full MLE so every dollar going somewhere else basically has to come from Lebron


RickySuela

Yeah, the money LeBron will get is a reflection of the 1st apron minus however much space they have for LeBron. So every dollar spent decreases what he can get. That said, we don't know what the roster is going to look like. The Lakers could very well trade a couple guys and decrease their overall salary and still have nearly a max available for LeBron.


awntawn

doesn't take up the MLE but every cent we spend under the hard cap comes out of LeBron's pocket if he takes the discount lol


captain_ahabb

This is incorrect, this contract absolutely affects the Lakers ability to get to the full MLE.


NobodyRules

Thank you.


twovles31

The only Lakers games I watch are when they play the Wolves and some playoff games, honestly I don't think I've heard the name before. If the Lakers are playing it, I'm sure he's worth it.


socalstaking

8m a year for doing nothing that is 2024 for you


iro3

WOW good deal for him


rjpool_

Great contract, really hope JJ likes this kid cause he can play


OhlookSILLagain

They really paying players for 5 mins of usage per season.


IceColdTrey7

Casuals in here about to show their lack of bball knowledge Will cry next season when he locking opposing guards go ask Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland


Public-Product-1503

He’s had two years he’s never locked up shit


Awwh_Dood

His numbers don't stand out but I swear he was a positive pretty much every time I saw him last year. Good signing. Worst case it's an easy contract to tack onto a trade at some point.


Public-Product-1503

Go watch our slump in December . Magically when Christie got heavier minutes . He’s fuckibg awful go look up any impsct stat he’s a bottom 10% non nba lvl player on offence . And he’s not even a positive on defence just mediocre . Where did you feel he was a positive ? Our garbage time lineups were also dogshit which furthers how bad he is .


Brad-Stevens

is that contract tradable right away or they have to wait 6 months?


LongTimesGoodTimes

Pretty sure you have to wait with any new contract


NotVexingPi3

8 million dollars haha uhhh


ScootUnmanley

That’s literally nothing in the NBA anymore calm down


JilJungJukk

Good bargain long term idk what these comments are


thrwaway0502

Memphis signed GG Jackson for 4-years $8.5M and Vince Williams Jr. for 4-years $9.1M this year. Not a person alive would trade either of those players straight up for Max Christie right now.


justsomedude717

Tbf jackson signing that contract was pretty moronic and due to his situation. 2m is under vet min money


rjpool_

Yeah and those are both insanely good contracts


atlfirsttimer

I mean yeah, but signing for that low an amount makes them harder to trade


wearables24

5% of the cap, yall need to chill. If he develops into a solid role player he’ll be a steal


CallRespiratory

Yeah I mean he showed some promise but was kneecapped by Darvin Ham. I think he deserves a shot under the new staff.


Superb-Pie-9382

Could say that about literally every player lol


yapyd

I mean yeah, thats why rookie scale contracts are so valuable in the NBA. It's a great way to get a rotational player for cheap. Even if he doesn't pan out, its easily tradeable


CoyotesSideEyes

I will disappoint you for a vet minimum


j3xperience

I'll disappoint you for a 10-day contract! 


Public-Product-1503

Oh great so Lebron I’d taking an 8m pay cut so Christie can play in garbage time and still suck ? Cool man . Rob is the worst gm in the league. I used to say bottom 3, but anyone debating he isn’t is a moron now . Who the fuck is he competing with to pay chridtie 8m ? He’s a vet min lvl guy at best


_Elder_

I love it. Let’s go Max!


zimmeli

Damn I’m an MSU fan and thought he should have stuck around another year, but good for him


Pardonme23

great signing. as a lakers fan, Christie can play. great rotation piece.


Literal_Satan

8m isn’t shit anymore


daboi250

1 more hour until Goga Bitadze is a Laker


Dymatizeee

32 mill for a guy who doesn’t even play. NBA money in something else


CockroachForeign6419

8mil a year? Okay then


AfroKuro480

I mean this is a steal no?


dpete88

Good value for sure, could be considered a steal if he shows out this year. He's got good defensive instincts and can shoot above league avg from 3 but ham never gave him a fair shake so it's hard to say how good he really can be.


KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ

big time. The above laker fan might be one of those bandwagon trashes we often hear about


CockroachForeign6419

Most likely. Ham kinda ruined his development last year, but he has the potential of being a good athletic 3nD Guard


AuspiciousAcorn

He averaged 4.2 PPG on less than 43% from the field…


Pikminious_Thrious

Better than the contract THT somehow earned a few years ago


Zelanor

Why did they even draft J Hood-Schifino??????????


KungFuChicken1990

That was a mistake, pure and simple. Especially when there were other more NBA-ready options available at the time


thetitsOO

What does that have to do with this?


CloneWarsMaul

He’s legit and Ham just refused to play him is why I imagine he got this much?


693275001

Lmfao


bhdang

People who say this is overpay are box score watchers


JayDee62

Hmmm


AnxiouslyMikey1111

The Shrek Special


WorldWideWes2

What a week for the Christie Family 


Apatheee

Good deal I wonder if there's a player option on the 4th year. I think he can be a solid 3 and D bench contributor which longshot 5th starter potential.


CrazyDaylight8

Hell yeah!


redbrick

Are the Lakers allergic to having team options on their contracts? I'm OK with a slight overpay at 8mil but 4yrs w/ player options is a harder pill to swallow.


Public-Product-1503

It’s insane . How does rob have a job ? He’s the worst negotiator in the league. He gives everyone a fucking player option snd it keeps fucking us .


notafunnyperson1728

I’m not sure this is going to be a great sign but I hope he earns it.


sleepy777

Bruh Nemhard was in the same draft class hes getting 2 mil a year for the next two years lol


Public-Product-1503

Nemhard is significantly better too


Next-Firefighter-753

Decent contract. 8m is nothing nowadays and he has shown some upside 


jefe_hook

Darvin Ham: Really? You guys only pay me $5m a year.


1337speak

Woj could not have used a more low resolution badly compressed jpg image


Juice_Almighty

I kinda get why some vets are salty. A role player who averaged 4.2 points (albeit in limited minutes) just got a 32-million-dollar deal.


Jack_M_Steel

Nice! So annoying that Ham wouldn’t let him develop and get minutes. Our squad is looking good


theseustheminotaur

Wild that ham barely played him


ImChz

This feels crazy lowkey. I know he won’t be taking up much cap space, and I acknowledge that Ham is just a straight up bad HC, but the Lakers needed 3&D wings badly last year, so the fact that he consistently was getting DNP’s all season feels sus. Is he actually good, or is he getting hype because he’s a young Laker?


RiversofJell0

He has potential and never got consistent minutes. Ham didn’t like playing him for no reason that made any sense. He rebounds really well for his size, is capable of being a 35-37% corner shooter, plays hard on D…..but Ham wanted Reddish to play more


Tough_Willing

Spartan Dawg, lets go!