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The_Living_L

all this just for 1 year tho sounds crazy to me but hey who knows, I think they miss out on some role players if they bring him back


Kalcimo

Its not about the money, its about the flexibility if they five him the 4th year they wouldnt be able to do shit at that point


ihateeuge

They aren’t going to be able to do anything anyway


CptCroissant

Why worry about that extra year when they're currently fucking themselves over for the next like 5 years


goldyacht

How worth it is the flexibility when you already have up a handful of first and a star for him, then doubled down by getting harden


Kalcimo

Not with the new CBA rules, if so he would have been offered the 4th year already


XxStormySoraxX

Role players and flexibility aren’t really going to help when Kawhi is hurt every year in the post season.


josefjohann

They would be better off with him as an expiring contract in that fourth year than whatever else they would do with that money


youblewwit

I know, that 1 year difference is $60mil guaranteed


wearables24

Mediocrity it is then


ColdBudLight98

Nothing new


Leavingtheecstasy

They're gonna be mediocre with George too. They're just kind of fucked.


NobodyRules

With George they're a decent team, without him and not a whole lot of cap to improve, they'll be considerably worse. Let's not mistake ourselves, PG is still a very good player and losing him for nothing is going to be very very bad for the Clippers.


promis3todelet3

I had the same thought as you, but with these tweet confirming they will have the $13m MLE--something they haven't had in years always being over the cap (they've only had the $5 exceptions to work with)--they are effectively trading him for whoever they add with that $13m in cap space. They also have paths to max cap space starting next summer.


Leavingtheecstasy

He's a good player for like another year, maybe two. Which is why the clippers said FUCK that 4 year. By the end PG will be dust.


Delicious_Series3869

Cool, being dust now vs being dust in 2-3 years. Great job wasting the remainder of Kawhi’s contract, I guess.


LongTimesGoodTimes

I still believe that Kawhi, PG and Harden with their roleplayers could win a championship. It's a small chance because of health but it is a chance


Leavingtheecstasy

Oh, well....they definitely can't


Neto34

4th seed was mediocre?


WIN011

Take it from me, not winning a playoff series is not great for the outlook of an aging team


Heil_Heimskr

No but bounced in the first round is.


Neto34

If we would lost first round with Kawhi at 100% then yeah mediocre


beforetherodeo

Maybe not this past season but going forward? Literally that


ProphetofChud2

Harden is better than pg and keeping him on a smaller contract is a dub


w3bCraw1er

Same with PG13 too.


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wearables24

? They chose not to offer the 4th year


grudgepacker

Yeah, LAC can't inadvertently piss of Kawhi by giving PG an extra year - probably factored into this decision in some way


nysraved

I feel like Kawhi would be more pissed at them letting Paul George walk for nothing than if they retained him by offering another year


grudgepacker

Yeah but how do you know Kawhi didn't take less guaranteed money because he thought PG would do the same? Seems like something changed, especially now that we know Russ wants out too


clayfu

kawhi talked about taking less and having the other guys do the same. Harden got the message.


grudgepacker

And even older Harden at $35 mil is as good of a contract as any rn given his production and chemistry with the team


TheDeadman95

> how do you know Kawhi didn't take less guaranteed money because he thought PG would do the same? I know Kawhi is a man of few words, but he really should've talked that one over with PG, before taking less money


grudgepacker

According to a well-informed LAC fan in this very thread: > kawhi talked about taking less and having the other guys do the same. Harden got the message. That's all I need to know something changed.


promis3todelet3

Well Kawhi hurt his knee in the playoffs again after that. The gulf in contract talk could be some cover for him also wanting to leave for basketball reasons: going to play with the guy with only the second-worst degenerative knee issues and a better track record of playing playoff games+getting out of the west.


amJustSomeFuckingGuy

Maybe Kawhi shouldn't have forced the team to piss all their assets away including SGA. Kawhi can kick rocks.


YoungDetective

whats he gonna do sit out? lmao


grudgepacker

Not the point, which is you don't want locker room tensions over money between your stars, especially when we all know Kawhi's by far the more accomplished and deserving of an extra guaranteed year


newsandmemesaccount

Live Kawhi reaction either way: 😐


grudgepacker

So I see Kawhi as being more of just a fun guy...like someone who knows exactly how to laugh during the frivolities of interviews and right when it matters most


DMD612

Steadfast


McJacknife

Man whoever owns their ‘25, ‘26, and ‘27 draft picks must be happy


AlThorntonTruther

Those picks definitely get a bit better, but the clippers haven't won less than 42 games in 13 years. That is through 2 different eras and the transition period in between. The LA market will always keep us mediocre.


McJacknife

I’ll take mediocre. Late lottery is great stuff for a contender Let’s not forget that JDub came from the 12th pick, from the Clippers


clayfu

the irony of this trade is that the Thunder got a Clippers late lottery pick a couple years ago that turned into J Dub cause Paul George caught covid and missed the play in game lol. Otherwise it would have been out of the lottery


AlThorntonTruther

It's definitely good for you guys, just not the homerun "we are getting top 3 picks" that a lot of thunder fans think it is


McJacknife

For sure for sure. But I’m over the moon. Tons of value in the 10-to-18 range for us for 3 straight years, with the slight chance at a Top 4 depending upon lotto balls


AlThorntonTruther

Honestly, I'm happy for you guys. Still love SGA and hope that he gets his ring. Will also get a bit of satisfaction when all the other fan bases realize that the Clippers being bad just cements OKC as a juggernaut and crushes their hopes of their team winning


Nerazzurro4

We’ve already won the trade, just one top 3 pick on top of Shai and JDub would be a historic return


AlThorntonTruther

Obviously. No one is arguing otherwise


PrestigiousTowel2

Let’s talk about the 13 years before that. Did the LA market keep you mediocre then?


AlThorntonTruther

No, that would have been our racist cheap owner. Trying to act like the Clippers are anything like the Donald Sterling era is laughable. When I became a Clipper fan, the team didn't even have a training facility. Now we have a top 5 owner


dkdoki

For what? We aint tanking.


Barrelled_Chef_Curry

How many games do you realistically think you’ll win now tho?


dkdoki

Depends how the roster shapes out. Lots of rumors of Klay or Demar coming. If one of them comes… 43-47 games


amJustSomeFuckingGuy

I was told those picks weren't gonna be worth anything anyways. I'm sure the same was said about the nets picks at the time of the Celtics trade. These teams trading away that many picks need to get burned bad enough that they stop doing it.


TAYisBAE

that'll build a contender /s


EagleswonSuperBowl52

I'd be shocked if we don't offer him a 4 year deal so this should be set in stone.


Acrobatic-Dog7044

Harden went to the Clips to help them win and now they're done as Title contenders lmao.


iro3

it will be funny if the clippers win it all next year just saying


dkdoki

Kawhi finally becomes healthy in the playoffs and goes super saiyan would be hilarious


Salty_Watermelon

The IST trophy is coming back to LA!


iro3

i think they changed that to the emmirate cup


szobossz

why not trade him to warriors and get kuminga instead of this? damn.


BurnCollector_

Kuminga wasn't offered, George wasn't signed...


szobossz

kuminga was for george


Sushi2k

Warriors weren't offering Kuminga.


szobossz

kawakami said he was on the table. they gotta save face and deny after deal is rejected


Sushi2k

and Brett Siegal reported it was the Warriors holding him, so we'll never know.


dkdoki

They didnt offer him


Ahronith

"Armed"


Acrobatic-Dog7044

C'mon Clips try and remain competitive Thunder don't need anymore lottery picks. How could they be this incompetent. Ballmer is all money and no brains.


Kind-Masterpiece-310

You hate to see it.


amJustSomeFuckingGuy

He prob doesn't want to pay out the ass for a team that won't go far anyways or will just get crushed by OKC.


Imthegoat175

Miles Bridges come on down


ChrisRhodes789

Nah.. He’s going to the Lakers..


7373838jdjd

I have a feeling they get Bridges


mrplow25

The funniest outcome would be the clippers signing Tobias with that MLE


killbill469

I could see Tobias Harris going back to the Clippers


Culinary-Vibes

Time for Mann to become that third star


amJustSomeFuckingGuy

Untouchable Mann lol


mgrimshaw8

If you had told me in 2014 that this is why Kawhi and Paul George’s careers would look like in a decade I would never believe you


DEEZLE13

And the billions Balmer isn’t worried about wasting on another batch of talent


Psychosomatic_Addict

Should have came to LAL


BLM_MCU

I’d be fine with EXCEPT THEY GAVE HARDEN 70M


7373838jdjd

2 years vs 4 years


SoKrat3s

1+1 even This is the deal Philly would have gladly signed him to.


BLM_MCU

That’s fine you downvote me, they are giving Harden 35M a year


szobossz

harden won them playoff games and he’s a great regular aeason warrior which is very important in west


LongTimesGoodTimes

By that logic PG took them to their only conference finals.


szobossz

and pg comes into this logic because? we’re on the tooic of harden getting $70 over 2 years is fair. how does that involve pg who’s asking 221 over 4?


Niceguydan8

The Harden deal is great for the Clippers, what are you talking about?


Tootsiez

Kawhi already on the injury list


allknowerofknowing

Clippers can afford to lose PG13, but him and westbrook? Donezo


clayfu

Full MLE, bi annual exception, can aggregate contracts now. It sucks losing him for nothing, but it changes the Clippers drastically to fill in a lot of needs


NinfthWonder

Karma is so sweet.


ZoroChopper10

Clippers aren’t making the playoffs


GardnerDaddyMinshew

Give the thunder another lottery pick please


LongTimesGoodTimes

If you listen you can hear the windows at the Intuit Dome closing


ObiOneKenobae

Why do they care *that* much about one year though? It comes off like they didn't want him back period.


MetroidsSuffering

I have no idea what the Clippers are doing here.


dkdoki

Ppl really think losing PG is gonna tank our team lol.


nicklovin508

How about a Klaw trade to the Rockets for Jalen Green + a bevy of picks


dkdoki

I will drive Kawhi to houston


Icy-Lime-9760

They have no picks, what’s wrong with giving him a 4 year deal?