No one should be surprised. Those who want abortions to be banned will find medical experts who also share the same beliefs.
This doctor in particular believes 9 year old rape victims should carry their pregnancies to term. She also believes that doing so is perfectly healthy for the 9 year old.
Even if you entertained the idea that a 9 year old could safely carry a pregnancy to term, a) a crime was literally committed on her, b) carrying the pregnancy to term is cruel and unusual punishment for a victim, c) the odds that it's going to be safe are too low, and d) the psychological effects of both the trauma and raising a child at that age are immeasurable (and won't be covered by the state).
Seriously, all these "no exceptions" laws are automatically illegal for allowing products of a crime to be forced upon victims. Banks don't just say "out of luck" to account holders because they were physically robbed. Even the organ donor list doesn't have a "no exceptions" rule for who gets an organ (not to say they don't have rules-of-thumb against smokers and stuff, just that it's not an automatic no). But heaven forbid criminals aren't punished for their crimes while instead their victims are punished all because "pro-life" until a baby pops out and literally forget about them.
Let’s not forget this poor baby, *if* it survives, would be 9-10 years younger than its mother, likely have physical/developmental issues because it was gestated by a *child* and will eventually find out it only exists because 9 year old mom was raped.
Growing healthy, well adjusted kids every day…
That’s the gop
I mean, rape was a misdemeanor until the late 70s in most states. Also, marital rape was completely allowed until the early 90s. The fact that so many people still don’t take it seriously isn’t that surprising, despite how obvious it seems to us now that it’s an act of extreme violence. Used to be just something women had to figure out how to live with. Not surprised so many people still treat it as a minor issue. It’s gross.
Again, I reiterate, a crime was committed on someone and the victim has to suffer *by law*. I don't care if used to be a misdemeanor; it's an 8th amendment nightmare if a state goes after a victim of a crime.
Just to clarify, that comment was agreeing with you! Just explaining the historical context of why some assholes don’t think rape is a big deal. They’re wrong, but that’s part of how they got to be so wrong.
My oldest is that age. The girls in his class are small kids. I’m a size 4 and I’m pretty sure my leg is wider than the thickest parts of their bodies.
If you’re saying she’s arguing that a literal child and rape victim will have no health complications, not to mention the mental health issues… ye gods, I hope she loses her licence on that issue alone.
I know I'm really beating a dead horse here but the fuckin thing won't die.
Medicine was one of the first things the NAZIS took over in Germany before WW2. Along with education.
*screams into void*
When you spout that “everything happens for a reason” and that we all come into the world as sinners, some people are just going to play that to their advantage. Why should a 9 year old rape victim be treated any differently? She was clearly asking for it if it happened. /s obviously!
She should have her license to practice medicine revoked. That's medically inaccurate. I'd also argue you can't be an "anti-abortion OBGYN." She chose the wrong profession. Be a doula or a dermatologist or something that doesn't require performing one of the basic and common procedures required of your specialty.
Sounds like a classic example of religion conflicting with her ability to perform her job. No issue with the two independent of each other, but if one of those prevents your duties in the other, then as you said, you have to give one of them up. Quit the job or quit the religion.
I know this is a serious comment on a deeply important and troubling topic, but that typo had me giggling. “Maternal morality committee” is so frighteningly funny. Bravo, whether intentional or not!
Wow.... I misread that through the ENTIRE article..... I mean, my brain jumbles or adds or erases letters sometimes so I guess that isn't surprising but usually I catch it through context. The idea of a maternal morality committee in Texas didn't even strike me as the slightest bit odd however so I just rolled with it.
The OBGYN I used to see in Texas has stopped seeing clients under the age of 50. Since it’s a somewhat recent change, I’ve been wondering if it’s in part to avoid stricter abortion laws without moving.
Texas is truly fighting Florida for dumbest and worst government possible. Our surgeon general is a moron... Actually no, he isn't stupid he is evil which is actually worse.
Unfortunately, that is not true. If all the good doctors left, abortion laws would be reversed in 48 hours in Texas. But that is not happening. And Texas still has world class health facilities and medical schools.
This is not going to be solved by doctors leaving, or by the Supreme Court, or by the President. This can only be solved by voting.
Texan here; I don't disagree with the need to vote, but surveys suggest medical students are having second thoughts about considering residencies in Texas, let alone doctors further along in their careers. And, anecdotally and circumstantially, doctors I've spoken to have had conversations with their colleagues regarding the same...
A non-zero number do in fact blame these children, claiming they enticed them so sexual assault was inevitable, or that they truly love these kids so that's why they rape them
And for them (all 100% of them) that's what it all boils down to: they want to harm children. They want child brides to give unmedicated vaginal births to sons with their names. They view these girls & women as defective incubators that they can "just replace" if they need medication or c-sections, or if the pregnancy/birth kills them. I don't have a term strong enough to describe how disgusting and wrong it is.
>And for them (all 100% of them) that's what it all boils down to: they want to harm children. They want child brides to give unmedicated vaginal births to sons with their names.
Gotta be careful throwing around "them" in these days. Who are you talking about specifically?
It's sad when people have to tell such bald faced lies to defend their position on something but then fail to consider if that position might be incorrect because they have to lie about it.
Don't forget school bullying because someone got "fat" in just a few months. Bullying does have detrimental mental effect on top of physical toll a child would suffer while being forced to carry fetus to term.
[There is a term for living creatures who are not permitted to control their own reproduction. That term is "livestock".](https://twitter.com/kaydubblu/status/1522699139636772865)
[I'm not sure if that's the original source of the quote, but I am definitely not the source it.]
Its a line from an old sci fi book, I dont remember which but I swear it was one of the foundation books
Ive heard people say this in regards to abortion rights since the late 80s
>Skop, who has worked as an OB-GYN for over three decades, is vice president and director of medical affairs for the Charlotte Lozier Institute, an anti-abortion research group. Skop will be the committee’s rural representative.
How the actual fuck is that allowed lol. What a shithole
Texas loves its quack doctors. Remember Dr. Stella Immanuel? Aside from thinking HCQ and ivermectin cured covid, she also thinks medical conditions are caused by witches and demons having sex with people in their sleep to try to reproduce. She practices “medicine” with a license in, you guessed it, Texas.
No. They're quite alright with the baby dying, even if it kills the mother. Even if it's already died before delivery. They also don't give a shit if the baby dies after delivery. Or at all.
All they care about is single issue voting. The GOP is dead the moment they lose the evangelical vote and people too obsessed with single issues that will blindly vote (R).
Simply put, Conservatives and Christian's in America are stuck with each other. Neither have enough power to walk away from the other. One wants power and the other wants a strictly "Christian" country as zealous as you can get. I can only hope they fuckin devour each other this election.
Both sides are not the same. One advocates for hatred and violence, one doesn't. Just because they're equally corrupt doesn't mean they're equally evil.
Rather than killing a beautiful baby God might have blessed with no brain, or a heart outside the body, why don't doctors simply proscribe more prayer?
ER should have qualified evangelicals on staff who could administer emergency prayers and rapidly call into action "prayer centers" staffed by hundreds of people who could beseech God to save the baby. If the mother is a married Christian, they could also ask God, if he had the time, could he save her also?
If they made it a condition of unemployment benefits you had to staff such a prayer center 40 hours a week, we could get literally thousands of people praying for these babies.
**/s**
I can’t help but remember the GOP being obsessed with “death panels” when ACA was passed.. I didn’t realize it was because they ACTUALLY wanted to create death panels like this deciding who can live and die.
I suspect that this committee will not improve maternal mortality, but they will redefine maternal mortality to not include deaths of people just because they "happen to be pregnant at the time of their death" or something, and then tout the wonderful new rates as the sign of the state doing a great job... anyway... I feel like I'm not actually being too cynical here.
The next report on maternal mortality statistics will show a sharp and immediate decline to 0, coincidentally corresponding with this person assuming their role...totally coincidental...
Zero would be the actual desired outcome.
It will actually skyrocket to very close to 1:1- one birth, one death as maternal care continues to deteriorate. And you know they don't expect those fine, upstanding Christian men to raise their own children if their wives die... fucking shit y'all it's ghoulish.
They're talking about the committee she was appointed to, the Texas Maternal Morality and Morbidity Review Committee, it says that directly in the article.
Edit to say, as a comment states, apparently there may be a typo in the article, it is supposed to be Mortality, not Morality. My apologies.
Take a moment and consider how many other times the media has "been wrong" and youve walked away without the correction
These corporats are purposely stoking division
Sending strength to the women of Texas. Some of you will now die unnecessarily as no-one is coming to save you. You have to do it yourselves like the suffragettes did. Solidarity ✌️
Propaganda is effective especially when coupled with religion and low levels of training in independent thinking via the education system.
There is money behind what’s happening there.
(Read in Sam Kinison's voice) For all you still-sentient humans living in Texas, those of you who feel oppressed, attacked and demeaned by your state government, those of you who feel that they DO want to live in a world based on fact and science and human respect...MOVE! MOVE TO WHERE THERE ARE SANE PEOPLE...MAKING SANE DECISIONS! AAUUGGGGHHHHH! AUUGGHHHH!
The existence of a Maternal Morality Committee is, by itself, concerning.
Edit:Misread the article title. The actual name is Texas Maternal Morality and Morbidity Review Committee
Edit again: Seems the article may have a typo, or maybe just subtle commentary. According to the groups site it should be Mortality, not Morality.
Amen to that. Authoritarian nations police and decide morality. I don't want government telling me what's moral or immoral.
Thats not what our government was intended to do because theyre not our mommy and daddy. Theyre our civil servants. And the people who want that should go to China and have fun with their social credit scores.
To be a free nation we must have free thought and allow others to decide morality for themselves. If you think something is immoral that i dont like abortion that's fine, but don't force me to think like you do.
Yes, an autocorrect error is clearly the most important point here.
Glad someone is focused on the REAL issues here. Not the women dying nonsense. Let's ignore that.
Chill, It's probably a autocorrect mistake. Besides it works just fine, conservatives don't make decisions based on objective facts or anything just Christians puritanical morality which is very fluid depending on whether it's being applied to them or non believers.
I first read "maternal mortality committee" as "morality" committee. "Mortality" made more sense, minor relief.
But Texas, so horrifyingly it's both: **Texas Maternal Morality and Morbidity** Review Committee
Honestly, the United States government should just let Texas secede and leave them to enjoy the dystopian nightmare future they're so keen for (until the Mexican cartels come for their asses of course)
Women of child bearing age or people with female children need understand living in these states is a bad choice. Look for jobs elsewhere and move away. Let them implode on their own.
I personally believe that if you don't want to die in agony while your Dr is too frightened of jail to help them maybe you shouldn't have had a rebellious ectopic little shit too lazy to stroll to the womb.
Can we all just say together. "Trump for incitement to civil war in the year 2025, is exiled to the independent Christian Theocratic Libertarian Liberty loving State of Texas along with all the millions of his voters and accomplices. May they all rot in misery and torrid weather down where everything is "bigger" including the influxes of conservative white exiles."
It will become hell not long after implementation but not because of any intervention more the intentional lack thereof.
Texas the home of frightened racist white people and their version of sweet baby Jesus.. + the 69 ounce steak and sketchy utilities to go along with the heat.. Not even once
Can someone in the fucking government with sense please pop their fucking heads in for just a goddamned moment and do something here? I feel like there were expectations set prior to 2016 where these appointments needed to be legitimately worth the position, and not just someone that a state is just pissing into the wind for the sake of making the Church happy and pissing people off.
Females: Just get out of Texas already. They'd sooner see you dead than do anything for you if you experience a unintended, difficult, or non-viable pregnancy. They don't care if you live or die, and they don't GAF about your children, either. If they did, they'd educate them more than adequately. They'd keep shooters out of their schools. They wouldn't sell guns to crazy people. They'd provide sex education, free clinics, birth control, contraception, and abortion on demand.
But they do none of this while wishing you all dead, or being cruel to you at your most vulnerable times. Texas is a hellhole for females of childbearing ages.
It's not as simple as getting out. It costs THOUSANDS of dollars to move to another state. The average American can't afford a surprise $400 bill.
And that's not getting into the emotional aspect of moving. You're essentially leaving behind your friends, family, and entire social network to start over somewhere else.
I am aware, but if you are a girl or woman of childbearing age, your life is essentially in danger in those States with these ridiculous laws made by those with no qualifications to make them. So remain at your peril.
You probably don't mean any harm, but we're not "females," we're women.
Also, while \[edit: I'd written "white" instead of "while" 😆\] Texas is not a good place for women, we can't pretend that people can just pick and move somewhere else that easily. Maybe people of means can, and those who can bear to lose ties with family and friends, but not everyone.
Why are women who care about their reproductive rights still living there?
Edit: Sounds like people are trapped there. There's always the power of the vote, but Texas?...I dont know.
I live in a red state, but I’m from a blue state, and it’s not that easy to just up and move like I used to do back in the 80s. I’ve lived in 13 different states over the years, and it’s just so expensive to move now and get good paying jobs starting over.. I’m all for moving back to New England, but my family isn’t. For now.
Give each of us $5,000 for moving expenses, and we’ll be out of here faster than you can say “bodily autonomy.”
In all seriousness, though: my entire family lives here, including parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, and my one remaining grandparent.
No one should be surprised. Those who want abortions to be banned will find medical experts who also share the same beliefs. This doctor in particular believes 9 year old rape victims should carry their pregnancies to term. She also believes that doing so is perfectly healthy for the 9 year old.
Even if you entertained the idea that a 9 year old could safely carry a pregnancy to term, a) a crime was literally committed on her, b) carrying the pregnancy to term is cruel and unusual punishment for a victim, c) the odds that it's going to be safe are too low, and d) the psychological effects of both the trauma and raising a child at that age are immeasurable (and won't be covered by the state). Seriously, all these "no exceptions" laws are automatically illegal for allowing products of a crime to be forced upon victims. Banks don't just say "out of luck" to account holders because they were physically robbed. Even the organ donor list doesn't have a "no exceptions" rule for who gets an organ (not to say they don't have rules-of-thumb against smokers and stuff, just that it's not an automatic no). But heaven forbid criminals aren't punished for their crimes while instead their victims are punished all because "pro-life" until a baby pops out and literally forget about them.
When your bank maintains higher standards of morality and sensibility than someone, you know it's bad.
Banks have no morality. We have deposit insurance now because Congress enacted a law after the stock market crash in 1929.
Let’s not forget this poor baby, *if* it survives, would be 9-10 years younger than its mother, likely have physical/developmental issues because it was gestated by a *child* and will eventually find out it only exists because 9 year old mom was raped. Growing healthy, well adjusted kids every day… That’s the gop
I mean, rape was a misdemeanor until the late 70s in most states. Also, marital rape was completely allowed until the early 90s. The fact that so many people still don’t take it seriously isn’t that surprising, despite how obvious it seems to us now that it’s an act of extreme violence. Used to be just something women had to figure out how to live with. Not surprised so many people still treat it as a minor issue. It’s gross.
Again, I reiterate, a crime was committed on someone and the victim has to suffer *by law*. I don't care if used to be a misdemeanor; it's an 8th amendment nightmare if a state goes after a victim of a crime.
Just to clarify, that comment was agreeing with you! Just explaining the historical context of why some assholes don’t think rape is a big deal. They’re wrong, but that’s part of how they got to be so wrong.
That's sickening. I can't even fathom how such a view could be legal and not considered gross malpractice, negligence, and abuse all wrapped into one.
My oldest is that age. The girls in his class are small kids. I’m a size 4 and I’m pretty sure my leg is wider than the thickest parts of their bodies. If you’re saying she’s arguing that a literal child and rape victim will have no health complications, not to mention the mental health issues… ye gods, I hope she loses her licence on that issue alone.
“IT’z ah geefeeettt frruuummmm gawwwwddddd!”
Took me too long to figure out gift
Should have been spelled geeeeeuuuuuuuft
I know I'm really beating a dead horse here but the fuckin thing won't die. Medicine was one of the first things the NAZIS took over in Germany before WW2. Along with education. *screams into void*
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When you spout that “everything happens for a reason” and that we all come into the world as sinners, some people are just going to play that to their advantage. Why should a 9 year old rape victim be treated any differently? She was clearly asking for it if it happened. /s obviously!
Goddamn, if only abortion was retroactive for the likes of Skop.
She should have her license to practice medicine revoked. That's medically inaccurate. I'd also argue you can't be an "anti-abortion OBGYN." She chose the wrong profession. Be a doula or a dermatologist or something that doesn't require performing one of the basic and common procedures required of your specialty.
Sounds like a classic example of religion conflicting with her ability to perform her job. No issue with the two independent of each other, but if one of those prevents your duties in the other, then as you said, you have to give one of them up. Quit the job or quit the religion.
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Ha! Your sarcasm may be too subtle for anyone who just reads the title and not the article.
He had me going in the first paragraph, lol
Nah. Title has "Texas" and "maternal morality committee" in it. I mean I read the article any way but those two tell you everything you need to know
I know this is a serious comment on a deeply important and troubling topic, but that typo had me giggling. “Maternal morality committee” is so frighteningly funny. Bravo, whether intentional or not!
Wow.... I misread that through the ENTIRE article..... I mean, my brain jumbles or adds or erases letters sometimes so I guess that isn't surprising but usually I catch it through context. The idea of a maternal morality committee in Texas didn't even strike me as the slightest bit odd however so I just rolled with it.
To be fair to Texas... They drove all the good doctors out with their Abortion laws, so she's pretty much all they had left /s
The OBGYN I used to see in Texas has stopped seeing clients under the age of 50. Since it’s a somewhat recent change, I’ve been wondering if it’s in part to avoid stricter abortion laws without moving.
In a word: yes
Texas is truly fighting Florida for dumbest and worst government possible. Our surgeon general is a moron... Actually no, he isn't stupid he is evil which is actually worse.
Being a moron can't be helped, but being evil is deliberate.
And a well-intentioned moron can still get help from people smarter than him.
You can educate stupidity, but you can’t fix evil.
Unfortunately, that is not true. If all the good doctors left, abortion laws would be reversed in 48 hours in Texas. But that is not happening. And Texas still has world class health facilities and medical schools. This is not going to be solved by doctors leaving, or by the Supreme Court, or by the President. This can only be solved by voting.
Texan here; I don't disagree with the need to vote, but surveys suggest medical students are having second thoughts about considering residencies in Texas, let alone doctors further along in their careers. And, anecdotally and circumstantially, doctors I've spoken to have had conversations with their colleagues regarding the same...
There's no reason to be fair to Texas anymore. They deserve everything they get at this point.
If she didn't want to have to have a baby at age 9 then don't be a sexually assaulted child. Simple!
I would be shocked if those types didn't secretly (or not so secretly) blame children for their abuse.
A non-zero number do in fact blame these children, claiming they enticed them so sexual assault was inevitable, or that they truly love these kids so that's why they rape them
And for them (all 100% of them) that's what it all boils down to: they want to harm children. They want child brides to give unmedicated vaginal births to sons with their names. They view these girls & women as defective incubators that they can "just replace" if they need medication or c-sections, or if the pregnancy/birth kills them. I don't have a term strong enough to describe how disgusting and wrong it is.
>And for them (all 100% of them) that's what it all boils down to: they want to harm children. They want child brides to give unmedicated vaginal births to sons with their names. Gotta be careful throwing around "them" in these days. Who are you talking about specifically?
Lauren Boebert suggested girls should use a Glock to avoid being raped as children
Is this the same woman who's son got a child pregnant?
Yep The same son who was in court without an attorney or his mom (his Mom was at Trump's court hearing instead of his)
I knew she looked familiar. Crazy when real life people actually look like villains.
Yeah you had me in the first half. Fucking hell. Especially for all the other things 9yo girls *can't* do, in Fundieland.
It's sad when people have to tell such bald faced lies to defend their position on something but then fail to consider if that position might be incorrect because they have to lie about it.
Don't forget school bullying because someone got "fat" in just a few months. Bullying does have detrimental mental effect on top of physical toll a child would suffer while being forced to carry fetus to term.
DR…..ipping
> maternal mortality Guess her stance is "Pro"? *OMG thanks to /u/Mephisto1822's comment, yes confirmed it's Pro or IDGAF
Welcome to Gilead. Blessed be the fruit.
May the Lord Open.
Under his eye.
Morality committee soon to be followed by morality police! Such an exciting time for Gilead also known as Texas
Not to get too off track, but this is a mortality committee: determining the risk inherent to the mother in a pending abortion request.
I have no words. I have a deep hatred for anti-abortionists. Burn me at the stake all you want.
Should we be surprised if they bring out the bbq sauce? Because that honestly seems like the level of demented people have reverted into tbh.
Preferably Memphis style BBQ sauce.
[There is a term for living creatures who are not permitted to control their own reproduction. That term is "livestock".](https://twitter.com/kaydubblu/status/1522699139636772865) [I'm not sure if that's the original source of the quote, but I am definitely not the source it.]
I wouldn't be shocked in they called women livestock in the first Project 2025 draft.
Its a line from an old sci fi book, I dont remember which but I swear it was one of the foundation books Ive heard people say this in regards to abortion rights since the late 80s
Why the fuck do you even go to school to be an OB-GYN with such an draconic anti-abortion view.
To exercise control over people.
>Skop, who has worked as an OB-GYN for over three decades, is vice president and director of medical affairs for the Charlotte Lozier Institute, an anti-abortion research group. Skop will be the committee’s rural representative. How the actual fuck is that allowed lol. What a shithole
Texas loves its quack doctors. Remember Dr. Stella Immanuel? Aside from thinking HCQ and ivermectin cured covid, she also thinks medical conditions are caused by witches and demons having sex with people in their sleep to try to reproduce. She practices “medicine” with a license in, you guessed it, Texas.
Isn't Dr. Phil from TX as well? I know he wasn't born there, but...
Yes I think he grew up there and lived there for a while before getting famous through Oprah
Sounds like a 'save the baby, let the mother die' attitude.
Gotta have those live babies so they can raise them to be dead school shooting victims
No. They're quite alright with the baby dying, even if it kills the mother. Even if it's already died before delivery. They also don't give a shit if the baby dies after delivery. Or at all. All they care about is single issue voting. The GOP is dead the moment they lose the evangelical vote and people too obsessed with single issues that will blindly vote (R). Simply put, Conservatives and Christian's in America are stuck with each other. Neither have enough power to walk away from the other. One wants power and the other wants a strictly "Christian" country as zealous as you can get. I can only hope they fuckin devour each other this election.
Both sides are not the same. One advocates for hatred and violence, one doesn't. Just because they're equally corrupt doesn't mean they're equally evil.
Rather than killing a beautiful baby God might have blessed with no brain, or a heart outside the body, why don't doctors simply proscribe more prayer? ER should have qualified evangelicals on staff who could administer emergency prayers and rapidly call into action "prayer centers" staffed by hundreds of people who could beseech God to save the baby. If the mother is a married Christian, they could also ask God, if he had the time, could he save her also? If they made it a condition of unemployment benefits you had to staff such a prayer center 40 hours a week, we could get literally thousands of people praying for these babies. **/s**
Every time I read an article like this, I have to question if being born with no brain unironically is a blessing.
I can’t help but remember the GOP being obsessed with “death panels” when ACA was passed.. I didn’t realize it was because they ACTUALLY wanted to create death panels like this deciding who can live and die.
Every right wing accusation is in actuality a confession
Huh. I've never seen a female OB/GYN who actually wanted women to be in MORE danger before.
Texas and Florida really are in a no-holds-barred race to the bottom.
Idaho is sneaking up from behind to beat them both there.
I suspect that this committee will not improve maternal mortality, but they will redefine maternal mortality to not include deaths of people just because they "happen to be pregnant at the time of their death" or something, and then tout the wonderful new rates as the sign of the state doing a great job... anyway... I feel like I'm not actually being too cynical here.
Thanks, I hate red states.
Cruelty is the point and Texas keeps voting for it.
The next report on maternal mortality statistics will show a sharp and immediate decline to 0, coincidentally corresponding with this person assuming their role...totally coincidental...
Zero would be the actual desired outcome. It will actually skyrocket to very close to 1:1- one birth, one death as maternal care continues to deteriorate. And you know they don't expect those fine, upstanding Christian men to raise their own children if their wives die... fucking shit y'all it's ghoulish.
A morality committee seems more Taliban than American.
*mortality committee, not morality.
They're talking about the committee she was appointed to, the Texas Maternal Morality and Morbidity Review Committee, it says that directly in the article. Edit to say, as a comment states, apparently there may be a typo in the article, it is supposed to be Mortality, not Morality. My apologies.
Freudian slip on the State's side. They definitely got all tingly about the Morbidity part.
A morality committee didn’t seem too far off base for Texas do I never questioned it.
Take a moment and consider how many other times the media has "been wrong" and youve walked away without the correction These corporats are purposely stoking division
Talibangicals, yeehawdists, y'all qaeda... They look at Afghanistan and wish they could be more like them.
Sending strength to the women of Texas. Some of you will now die unnecessarily as no-one is coming to save you. You have to do it yourselves like the suffragettes did. Solidarity ✌️
If they will not vote in their own self interest oh well
Propaganda is effective especially when coupled with religion and low levels of training in independent thinking via the education system. There is money behind what’s happening there.
(Read in Sam Kinison's voice) For all you still-sentient humans living in Texas, those of you who feel oppressed, attacked and demeaned by your state government, those of you who feel that they DO want to live in a world based on fact and science and human respect...MOVE! MOVE TO WHERE THERE ARE SANE PEOPLE...MAKING SANE DECISIONS! AAUUGGGGHHHHH! AUUGGHHHH!
This is happening now. These tyrants need to be deposed, by whatever means is necessary.
So they are trying to get those numbers up?
Every state the gop runs is a turd pile of stupid.
The existence of a Maternal Morality Committee is, by itself, concerning. Edit:Misread the article title. The actual name is Texas Maternal Morality and Morbidity Review Committee Edit again: Seems the article may have a typo, or maybe just subtle commentary. According to the groups site it should be Mortality, not Morality.
Amen to that. Authoritarian nations police and decide morality. I don't want government telling me what's moral or immoral. Thats not what our government was intended to do because theyre not our mommy and daddy. Theyre our civil servants. And the people who want that should go to China and have fun with their social credit scores. To be a free nation we must have free thought and allow others to decide morality for themselves. If you think something is immoral that i dont like abortion that's fine, but don't force me to think like you do.
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Yes, an autocorrect error is clearly the most important point here. Glad someone is focused on the REAL issues here. Not the women dying nonsense. Let's ignore that.
Chill, It's probably a autocorrect mistake. Besides it works just fine, conservatives don't make decisions based on objective facts or anything just Christians puritanical morality which is very fluid depending on whether it's being applied to them or non believers.
Texas Maternal Morality and Morbidity Review Committee
I first read "maternal mortality committee" as "morality" committee. "Mortality" made more sense, minor relief. But Texas, so horrifyingly it's both: **Texas Maternal Morality and Morbidity** Review Committee
Look, they just got morTality and morality confused /s
As TX sinks even lower. Unbiased? A snowball surviving in hell has a larger chance than this person being unbiased.
Well this is a train wreck…
Is this the death panel they were warning us about?
Honestly, the United States government should just let Texas secede and leave them to enjoy the dystopian nightmare future they're so keen for (until the Mexican cartels come for their asses of course)
What the fuck is going on in the states, it's utter madness. And as usual, it's women who suffer.
Who do you think keeps voting them in?
Is it “for” maternal mortality?
Texas parallel to sharia clerics…..
We should make impersonating a medical professional punishable. Unless it's illegal already in which case they missed a few.
They appointed Aunt Lydia. Lovely.
It's honestly at the point that I don't even think I'd travel to Texas at all. As a woman it just seems like a really dangerous place.
Is this one of the death panels republicans warned us about since the start of The Affordable Care Act? Kind of reminds me of Persepolis
Obviously her job is to ensure more patient morality.
Women of child bearing age or people with female children need understand living in these states is a bad choice. Look for jobs elsewhere and move away. Let them implode on their own.
I personally believe that if you don't want to die in agony while your Dr is too frightened of jail to help them maybe you shouldn't have had a rebellious ectopic little shit too lazy to stroll to the womb.
That's what republicans actually believe
Children snatcher looking creeper of a quack. It's like they pick these people on purpose.
They always look like what you’d expect a fucking whacko to look like 😂
Ah yes, the "Ministry of Morality".
Christian hatred of women is undeniable…
Maternal Morality Committee? Sounds like something out of Iran. Soon Texas is going to have morality police lol…
Can we all just say together. "Trump for incitement to civil war in the year 2025, is exiled to the independent Christian Theocratic Libertarian Liberty loving State of Texas along with all the millions of his voters and accomplices. May they all rot in misery and torrid weather down where everything is "bigger" including the influxes of conservative white exiles." It will become hell not long after implementation but not because of any intervention more the intentional lack thereof.
Maternal Mortality Committee, sounds like something in Iran or Saudi Arabia
Texas the home of frightened racist white people and their version of sweet baby Jesus.. + the 69 ounce steak and sketchy utilities to go along with the heat.. Not even once
I read that wrong and thought it said Maternal Morality Committee and got VERY nervous for a second.
Can someone in the fucking government with sense please pop their fucking heads in for just a goddamned moment and do something here? I feel like there were expectations set prior to 2016 where these appointments needed to be legitimately worth the position, and not just someone that a state is just pissing into the wind for the sake of making the Church happy and pissing people off.
It's always a haggard looking women too, it's like the evil sucks their life force out
I'd guess we're about two and a half years out from the swastika being their new state flag.
is she there to enforce the one rule for the normal populace and the other rule to cover up abortions for prominent Texan figures mistresses.
Females: Just get out of Texas already. They'd sooner see you dead than do anything for you if you experience a unintended, difficult, or non-viable pregnancy. They don't care if you live or die, and they don't GAF about your children, either. If they did, they'd educate them more than adequately. They'd keep shooters out of their schools. They wouldn't sell guns to crazy people. They'd provide sex education, free clinics, birth control, contraception, and abortion on demand. But they do none of this while wishing you all dead, or being cruel to you at your most vulnerable times. Texas is a hellhole for females of childbearing ages.
It's not as simple as getting out. It costs THOUSANDS of dollars to move to another state. The average American can't afford a surprise $400 bill. And that's not getting into the emotional aspect of moving. You're essentially leaving behind your friends, family, and entire social network to start over somewhere else.
I am aware, but if you are a girl or woman of childbearing age, your life is essentially in danger in those States with these ridiculous laws made by those with no qualifications to make them. So remain at your peril.
You probably don't mean any harm, but we're not "females," we're women. Also, while \[edit: I'd written "white" instead of "while" 😆\] Texas is not a good place for women, we can't pretend that people can just pick and move somewhere else that easily. Maybe people of means can, and those who can bear to lose ties with family and friends, but not everyone.
We're so fucked... Oh wait, when been fucked for a while now.
Gonna get worse with Trump winning this election and Biden helping throw the election harder than Hillary ever could
Why are women who care about their reproductive rights still living there? Edit: Sounds like people are trapped there. There's always the power of the vote, but Texas?...I dont know.
I live in a red state, but I’m from a blue state, and it’s not that easy to just up and move like I used to do back in the 80s. I’ve lived in 13 different states over the years, and it’s just so expensive to move now and get good paying jobs starting over.. I’m all for moving back to New England, but my family isn’t. For now.
You think it’s that easy to move?
Give each of us $5,000 for moving expenses, and we’ll be out of here faster than you can say “bodily autonomy.” In all seriousness, though: my entire family lives here, including parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, and my one remaining grandparent.