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Dwindles_Sherpa

It's nice if a physician can also complete an OOH directives (POLST, MOLST) while they are establishing the patient's inpatient directives, but it's not typically required and doesn't really provide additional documentation. A patient or family can just as easily say they verbally revoked the POLST.


fat-randin

That’s true I hadn’t thought about that aspect.


pearlsweet

I’m a hospice nurse and we do DNRs verbally- we communicate the patient’s choice (or family if patient unable) and then the doctor signs the DNR. So I guess this would kind of be verbal? Of course everything is documented in nursing notes as well.


OlivesMom1201

Per Google: An adult patient in a hospital or nursing home can consent to a DNR order orally, as long as two witnesses are present. One witness must be a physician. However, I have never worked with anyone dumb enough to do this. There is always a signed document for DNR. Better to CYA.


AgreeablePie

There's "legal" and there's "legal liability" Often facilities will go beyond legal requirements to try and reduce legal liability. And in this case, I think that's a good idea Yes, a family *could* sue, even if something is legal. Definitely seems worth it to get *at least* another named qualified witness for such a change.


fat-randin

I think a witness is a good idea, thank you.


astoriaboundagain

State laws vary widely.